Intelligent Third Density Alien Life?

axj

The Living Force
I was reading about the Drake equation, which basically says that there are lot of other habitable worlds out there - and the Fermi paradoxon, which asks why we haven't seen any evidence of alien life yet. While a lot of it is, of course, due to the hyperdimensional nature of most aliens, I was wondering if the Drake equation is off. Or are there, like the Drake equation says, many habitable planets not far from us? And if so, do they have no 3D life at all, or no intelligent 3D life? Or is it that the 3D aliens are following a sort of 'quarantine' like the 4D aliens and do not want to reveal their existence to humanity?
 
axj said:
I was reading about the Drake equation, which basically says that there are lot of other habitable worlds out there - and the Fermi paradoxon, which asks why we haven't seen any evidence of alien life yet. While a lot of it is, of course, due to the hyperdimensional nature of most aliens, I was wondering if the Drake equation is off. Or are there, like the Drake equation says, many habitable planets not far from us? And if so, do they have no 3D life at all, or no intelligent 3D life? Or is it that the 3D aliens are following a sort of 'quarantine' like the 4D aliens and do not want to reveal their existence to humanity?

From what I could find about the Drake equation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

It looks to me like the basis on how the numbers are arrived at, are from a human and earth based perspective.

Here is the equation:

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where:

N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);
and

R* = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fl = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point
fi = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)
fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space

To arrive at N you have to calculate things like planets that can support life. The equation was put together 1961, so we probably have to keep that in mind too. As far as I know we have long thought that life is only possible on carbon basis, now they think that silicon based life could be possible as well. Where is the end there? And is there even an end?

So it seems to me that a big part of the numbers in the equation are based on assumptions from an earth perspective, thus the equation itself is not that helpful to find it out, OSIT. Besides: Who defines what life really is and what forms, shapes, manifestation, densities and dimensions it encompasses?
 
From what I understand, the equation itself does not suffer from being made in the 1960's. Especially the number of extrasolar planets can be estimated much better now.

The definition of Third Density life is a more interesting point. Since that equation is usually used to calculate the chances of intelligent life that is similar to the one on Earth, that factor in the calculation may be off.
 
I guess my question is whether most of the thousands of Earth-like planets in our galaxy have Third Density life on them. It would be strange to find another Earth that is completely barren, OSIT.
 
axj said:
I was reading about the Drake equation, which basically says that there are lot of other habitable worlds out there - and the Fermi paradoxon, which asks why we haven't seen any evidence of alien life yet. While a lot of it is, of course, due to the hyperdimensional nature of most aliens, I was wondering if the Drake equation is off. Or are there, like the Drake equation says, many habitable planets not far from us? And if so, do they have no 3D life at all, or no intelligent 3D life? Or is it that the 3D aliens are following a sort of 'quarantine' like the 4D aliens and do not want to reveal their existence to humanity?

Several interesting questions. There is a lot of evidence that we have been visited by aliens, some apparently of the 3D variety too, and they don't want us knowing about what they're up to. David Jacobs writes about this in his books:

Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO Abductions
The Threat. The Secret Alien Agenda: What the Aliens Really Want...And How They Plan to Get It
Walking Among Us: The Alien Plan to Control Humanity

So the Fermi paradox of 'why isn't there evidence of being visited by aliens' is phony - it boils down to our 'subconscious selection and substitution' of data, and the fact that the 'aliens' want their presence to be kept secret.

More on the Fermi Paradox:

Fermi's phony paradox: Humans too arrogant and stupid to solve 'missing aliens' question

What Fermi realized in his burst of insight was simple: If the universe was teeming with intelligent technological civilizations, why hadn't they already made it to Earth? Indeed, why hadn't they made it everywhere?

But Fermi, and Frank by repeating it, were making some rather large assumptions. Why should they simply assume that intelligent life from other worlds hadn't yet made it to Earth? Must aliens take a stroll around Times Square in broad daylight in order for us to accept the idea that they had already made it here? Or anywhere? Granted, there is a lot more information available to us today about the existence of UFOs/ETs than there was in 1950, and it's easy to look back and be critical of Fermi, who didn't have access to it. But the famous physicist did have the capacity to question and use his imagination to focus on what was then an important and new phenomenon that had invaded the mass consciousness. So why couldn't he have taken it a step or two further? Was he so myopic in his role as a physicist that he could only acknowledge the physical world through the tools and ideas that he and his colleagues invented to that point in time?

So it seems that both the Fermi paradox and the Drake equation have some major biases. However, your question still stands: Are there any habitable planets near us that contain 3D life? Well I'd think we'd have to define what 'near' means - the universe is a big place. In terms of distance, it appears there are none in this solar system, maybe in the galaxy though. Every now and then articles will pop up that claim to have found habitable planets, like this recent one:

Astronomers discover potentially habitable planets just 40 light years from Earth


Astronomers have detected three exoplanets just 40 light years from Earth whose sizes and temperatures are comparable to those of Earth. The planets may be the best targets found so far for the search for life outside the solar system.

But if they are inhabited by 3D STS then one would imagine they have similar constraints as our own civilization - hubris and wishful thinking could keep driving them back to the stone age. If not then one would imagine they still have to bow to the higher forces at work, and follow their commands (which is something we do see happening in the UFO abduction process). And if they're more STO-oriented then they probably have more important things to do than interfere in what's going on here.

axj said:
I guess my question is whether most of the thousands of Earth-like planets in our galaxy have Third Density life on them. It would be strange to find another Earth that is completely barren, OSIT.

In the end I think it's definitely possible. The universe wasn't just created for us, after all.
 
I'm not sure if we can distinguish 3D aliens visiting us from 4D aliens that just come into 3D temporarily. So I don't think that it is certain that we were visited by 3D aliens.
 
According to the Cassiopaeans, the Nephilim are one such race, which are used as enforcers for the Lizzies, but you probably already knew that.
Session941022 said:
A: That is very close to being the case. It is far more complicated than that so we will leave that at this time.
Q: (L) Tell me about the Nephilim.
A: That was a race of beings in the third level of density which came from an actual planet at another point in this particular galaxy also in the third level of density, who were taken, or shall we say kidnapped, reprogrammed and retrained by the Lizard Beings to act as enforcers during a particular era of what you would measure as your past.
Q: (L) What era was that?
A: That was an era... it would have been approximately 8 to 5 thousand years ago but there are also dates relating to 12 to 14 thousand years ago and others. Dating system is not ours and does not exist for us.
Q: (L) For how many years did these beings exist on our earth?
A: Approximately 15 to 18 hundred years. They died off because they were not able to reproduce naturally in the atmosphere of the earth and experimentation to try to cause them to intermix with the human population did not succeed.
Q: (L) When did the last of them die off?
A: Probably near 6 to 7 thousand years ago. But there is also a reference point of 12 to 14 thousand years as well.
Q: (L) What was the name of the planet they came from?
A: Dorlaqua.
Q: (L) Where was this planet located?
A: This planet was located in the Orion complex.
Another flaw I see with the Drake equation, is that it relies on detecting radio signals or perhaps laser pulsations for the more intellectually "avant-garde" researchers. :rolleyes: If a 3D society relied on say, a distributed crystal network to transmit psychic impressions superluminally through quantum entanglement, they would have no need for the bulky and energy intensive communications infrastructure we rely on today, and would be completely undetectable to those who subscribe to the mainstream scientific consensus view in this field. It would be entirely reasonable to assume, under the materialist philosophy that underpins the scientific establishment today, that Atlantis was not an advanced civilization, even though they had technology and capabilities far in advance of ours. The reason: they don't have big expensive radios that we can see with our big expensive radios; therefore they don't exist! The other civilizations must find our anthropocentricism highly amusing.

Some of these researchers have tried to find evidence of the spaceships and come up empty handed. According to channeled sources, FTL is achieved by converting the ship into pure energy, or "light matter," possibly by manipulating gravity, and then moving along a 'w' axis at some angle relative to the 'x,y,z' axes so that you travel backward in time at the same rate you move forward in space. Since time is space, you're really just dealing with a 4D matrix where you ought to be able to move wherever you want instantaneously if you can do trigonometry in 4 dimensions and your "warp drive" is up to the task. The Cassiopaeans said that in 4D, there is no such thing as speed or left or right, just "around in a general sense." They also said that distance as well as time is a 3D illusion. My thinking, based on the transcripts, is that the "warp drive" acts as some sort of resonator, when in the "light matter" nonmaterial state, as opposed to the denser, more physical time and space that we experience. In this state, the universe exists as a collection of frequencies surrounding you, and the "distance" is determined by how far out of resonance you are with it. If you have "charted" a specific frequency and align with it, you become attached to its location, and find yourself transported there when you "decelerate" back to the physical universe and normal time and space. It seems to be deceptively simple, I wish I was smart enough to actually prove it. At any rate, these are my assumptions, and to even be able to broach this subject in an objective way, you have to radically change your assumptions. Some of Laura's thoughts from the sessions...
Session970607 said:
Q(L): Well, I can't go any further with that because I know nothing about railguns, not even what they are. Now, let me read this text: "I have recently come into possession of a paper on magneto-gravitics and field resonance systems, presented by A.C. Holt from NASA Johnson Space Center to the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics' 16th Joint Propulsion Conference, June 30-July 2, 1980. Holt presents a project using an already existing system known as the Coherent Field and Energy Resonance System (CoFERS) [probably located at Los Alamos Labs' High Magnetic Field Research Laboratory]. CoFERS utilizes a toroidal-shaped energy guide with megagauss magnetic field sources located along radius vectors equally spaced around the toroid. CoFERS is shaped like a thick flying disc. Holt goes on to say: "By converying an object's normal space-time energy pattern to an energy pattern which differs substantially from the normal pattern, the gravitational forces acting on the object are changed. The object's new pattern interacts with the surrounding space-time and virtual energy patterns, such that the interactive forces are substantially altered. The alteration of the characteristics of the continuous field of force results in the apparent motion of the object *through space-time*." [...] "Since the gravitational forces acting on the propulsion system can be quickly altered to achieve the desired motion, the *spacecraft* can make right-angle turns at very-high velocities without adversely affecting the crew or system elements. The effective gravitational field the *spacecraft/ aircraft* experiences can be nearly simultaneouslyreoriented at a 90-degree angle, resulting in a smooth continuous motion as far as the occupants are concerned." [ ... ] "The gravimagnetic system is perhaps best suited for use in and around ... a large mass such as the Earth." "While the gravimagnetic system is likely to be the first field-dependent propulsion system developed, the field resonance system will **bring stellar and galactic travel out of the realm of science fiction**. The field resonance system artificially generates an energy pattern which precisely matches or resonates with a virtual pattern associated with a distent space-time point. According to the model, if a fundamental or precise resonance is established, (using hydromagnetic wave fine- tuning techniques), the spacecraft will be very strongly and equally repelled by surrounding virtual patterns. At the same time, through the virtual many-dimensional structure of space-time, a very strong attraction with the virtual pattern of a distant space-time point will exist. ...this combination of very strong forces will result in the translocation of the spacecraft from its initial position through the many-dimensional virtual structure to the distant space-time point. [ ... ] "A space time 'jump' already appears to be supported by astrophysical research." Having read this text, my thought is that it is very similar to what I was talking about earlier today, and which was explicated by Karl von Eckertshausen in regards to the 'violin allegory.' That is, that a violin string tuned to a particular pitch, if plucked, will cause the identical string on another violin across the room tuned to the same pitch to sound also. However, it seems that what they are doing here is setting up a 'pitch' in this object which actually exists somewhere else. And, by creating this resonance, it 'becomes' or disappears from this point in space/time where its resonance is no longer appropriate, and reappears at the point in space/time where the 'tuned resonance' actually exists. It is both virtual and real. Is this text on the right track, and am I understanding it correctly?
A: Propulsion system for 3rd and 4th density Alien spacecraft.
Q(L): That is the propulsion system?
A: Very close, yes.
Q(L): Is my understanding close to correct?
A: Well, that is a clever anecdotal parallel as it matches conceptually, which is really the point, isn't it?
Q(L): The point? Are you saying that the anecdote is more to the point than what this paper is saying?
A: In terms of consciousness, which is why everything exists ultimately, and with gravity as the "glue" that holds all on physical and ethereal planes together!
Q(L): Is the object to 'dematerialize' or is the object to transpose something that is material to some other point in space/time? I mean, when you collapse the gravity wave, is it necessarily that the
object or person 'dematerializes' or 'disappears' from this point...
A: Break the veil of "time," and dematerialzation is no longer necessary, because one enters the realm of pure consciousness, where the illusion of physicality serves no longer, a purpose.
Q(L): Is it an issue for one to be able to retain internal coherence if one is no longer in a physical state?
A: Internal coherence can only be guaranteed in a purely non- physical "state." And this state is really only a state of mind, anyway!!
Q(L): If one were to travel in this manner, would it not be a temptation to not return to the physical reality?
A: If one goes bowling, is it a temptation to not return to the parking lot?
Q(L): I guess if your only choice was the parking lot, I guess you would want to stay, but if going to the parking lot meant getting in your car and going home, then no. Now, glue. The thing is that one has to 'unglue' oneself? Is that the point?
A: No.
Q(L): Well, if gravity is what holds material and ethereal existence together, and you are going from material into ethereal states...
A: By your definition, you would be unglued, since you perceive the physical, and thus are not completely stuck.
Q(L): So, you still have the ability to perceive the physical reality and the physical world when you are traveling this way, therefore you are not completely 'stuck.' However, we have talked about people who do get completely 'stuck,' is this correct?
A: Close.
My point is, I wonder how many scientists have the context to even hypothesize within a radically different paradigm, much less experimentally validate it. Maybe it's one of those thing that they kill you if you get too close.
axj said:
I'm not sure if we can distinguish 3D aliens visiting us from 4D aliens that just come into 3D temporarily. So I don't think that it is certain that we were visited by 3D aliens.
True, the 3D races that are capable of interstellar travel would use similar technology. Your only clue might be that the 3rd density craft would be a little clunkier and solid, "noisier" perhaps, where the 4D beings would seem more "magical." You probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a chance encounter, though.
 
I also wanted to throw this quote out there last night, but I got sleepy and logged off and forgot about it.
Session941126 said:
Q: (L) Is there a 3rd level representative of the forces of the light?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who or what are they?
A: Don't exist on your planet.
Q: (L) Do they have a planet of their own?
A: Have quadrillions of them.
Q: (L) Well, this is beginning to sound like we are in pretty bad shape here. This is like the Siberia of the universe as Gurdjieff said.
A: The Universe is infinitely huge.
Q: (L) If there are planets where there are 3 D beings who are STS oriented, in other words, in a physical body, do they look something like us?
A: You are STS oriented. Did you really mean to say STO?
Q: (T) Is there a 3D race in this universe that is STO?
A: Yes. Already stated thus.
Q: (L) If there are planets with STO beings...
A: Some look like you.
Q: (L) What is life like on that sort of place? (T) They are not going to tell us that. That is something that we are going to have to develop to find out.
A: Exactly.
In summation, the main reasons I think the Fermi paradox still remains unbroken:

1. It does not account for the possibilities of life in the universe; carbon based with radically different technology, not carbon based, the possibilities of parallel space-time's with different physical parameters, long wave cycle existence vs. short wave cycle existence, etc. It is like a rare white panther looking for another white panther, considering all other types of panthers mirages or nonexistent; much less the lions, tigers, and lynxes. SETI is virtually doomed to fail because its focus is so narrow, and that's probably by design. Humanity is blinded by its anthropocentrism.

2. Habitable planets are widely spaced and it requires extremely sophisticated infrastructure to leave one's own solar system. This is probably by design by the intelligent energy that maintains the galaxy. From a cosmic perspective, these 3rd density planets are like saplings, and you want them to get established without crowding each other out and prematurely suppressing each other's diversity. A Star Wars scenario between unevolved races invading and blowing up planets becomes highly probable if galactic colonization is too easy, especially with purely 3D actors. The races that do manage to function in the galactic community, whether STS or STO, got that way after a long period of gaining knowledge and learning how things work and maintaining the stability of their society to develop this capability. I think this favors a preponderance of 4D races over 3D races in the galactic community. It also preserves the choices and stability of different karmic learning environments across the cosmos, which is important to levels beyond 4D. Even if you're an evil dominator enslaving race, you still have to be smart and somewhat responsible about it.

3. As a colony of the Orion Empire, this planet has been firewalled with a frequency fence, which tightly controls what gets in and out. While they may not be able to completely deflect an STO collective of equal stature, they can certainly discourage curious noninvolved parties from poking around the planet and revealing too much. The human genome has been tampered with so that humans are pretty much unplugged from the cosmic information field in their default state and they don't notice much of what really goes on. The only alien activities that humans see are what the Orion Empire wants you to see, or their occasional mistakes.

4. Humanity is reckless and has not shown the maturity required to be a responsible member of the galactic community. It is also owned by and pretty much wholly under the thumb of the Orion Empire. An altruistic 3D race will not interfere with the planet's development unless it personally threatens them, and a less altruistic race is not going to risk getting into a scrap with the Orions, which they will almost certainly lose, over impinging on their territory. Humanity as a whole doesn't bring much to the table and is full of liabilities so long as it remains in its current position.
 

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