Is boredom the engine of all things?

[Kisito]

This finding comes from two things:
That of my 15-year-old son saying one day that everything was done from boredom. I showed him my disapproval, to say that my actions came from the intrinsic pleasure of improving or improving others.
The second thing comes from this construction below that I had already eluded while I was 22, but that appeared to me this morning when I wake up:
God is Absolute knowledge, immutable.
Bored he invented the fragmentation of knowledge.
The paroxysm of this fragmentation should reach a polarity with knowledge. That is, there should be a maximum of ignorance.
This maximum of ignorance seems to have the capacity and desire to increase one's knowledge by merging other knowledge.
That being said, let us suppose that God knows everything, that supposes that he knows ignorance and fear [...] But if God can be ignorant and timid [...], how can he be God?
God would not be the "all power", but the "all knowledge".
In front of what seems to me inextricable, the only thing that I think to understand is that even when one has "All", we miss something. That is the "lack". It is this lack that would give us the vitality to extricate us, to move us.
So God, would spend his time doing and undoing, just because he's bored! This existential reflection, we "philsophes" call it methaphisic, spirituality, or what we consider to be a great virtue of humanity.
And if the purpose of all this, would simply be to kill boredom? Boredom is perhaps the worst form of suffering. Is it not the Cs who said that for the end of the "4D". If the suffering is very pronounced in 4D, what about the 7D and its eternity?
At this level of density, the best way not to be bored, would be to fragment our consciousness and memory.
In this case, our existence, would be a vast deception. Would it be better for us to live "the present moment"? Not sure, because as soon as we realize that there is no existential purpose, we could be dizzy and anxious.
So, it seems that we are working and studying for fear of not getting bored.
That is to say that for some of us, it is vital to seek the truth or the lie, not for virtue, but to escape the anxiety of staying in our poor knowledge.
Therefore, it is possible to say that if we do not work or study, we are bored.
The primitive forms of life or consciousness seem to satisfy themselves. Awareness leads to anxiety and the escape from boredom. Because of this, the search for the truth can sometimes seem like a decoy, a mechanism helping us "simply" to evolve. When evolution and knowledge are total, then boredom will be at its height, there will be nothing to look for, and it will be necessary to forget again, to unlearn and to involute.
All this not to be bored! I hope there is something else.

 

[theos]

What, exactly, is it that you're saying? Absolute knowledge = boredom? Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Can you explain it in a different way?

 

[Chu]

What, exactly, is it that you're saying? Absolute knowledge = boredom? Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Can you explain it in a different way?

Ditto. From the little I understand your post, it seems to me that it contains a contradiction. How could "God" be bored, and have created so much, but he didn't forget and go back to being a mineral as you are suggesting the rest of existence may do?

More importantly, what is your point, exactly? Are you saying that you are bored or afraid of boredom, and that what your son said made you realize that? Or that you think learning and working on oneself is in vain? I'm confused...

 

[3DStudent]

I think you underestimate the amount of experience to be had in the Universe. I don't think you can run out of lessons, if that's what you mean. And when you approach the end of your 3D cycle, you will fit better into a 4D body, and the possibilities of your experience will increase exponentially.

Some things can become boring though, and you reach a plateau. I think those things are A influences. When I used to play video games, I slowly lost interest in them over the latter few years. It was like I was seeing the limits of them, and they actually became boring. I knew where they lead to, which was basically unfulfilling rewards. So those kind of things that serve as traps for us in 3D, and that have limits, I think can lead to boredom. But that is a function of our having overcome them and learned that there is more.

It's like Luke said in The Last Jedi trailer, "It's so much bigger". I love that line. :P Don't forget that there is no limit to knowledge and your mind.

I think I get what you're saying about God being all, which includes lack. And if it is all, then it is lack also. But why can't God be all things? It seems a sort of paradox. But remember that Non-Being STS exists only as a reflection in 6D. So it's like it has to be there, but isn't in a sense. Of course, these kinds of things are hard to really grok in 3D. My two cents.

 

[Laura]

Actually, it sort of reflects the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi, that the Absolute was alone and desired to be known, but since he had all knowledge within himself s/he/it had to create a sort of "mirror", i.e. the Holy Spirit. It's described in terms of breath: the Absolute breathed out and created in order to relieve constriction.

 

[Eulenspiegel]

In my experience, boredom only occurs during the waking state of mind.
Whenever I focus on my breath and follow it until my concentration becomes unwavering, I notice that boredom no longer comes up. Same goes for the dreaming state.
Seems to me that the feeling of boredom comes up because the mind is not satisfied with the present state or unable to pay attention to the present matter.
But I think it's limited to humans. That spider on my wall has remained in the same position all day now, and while I can't know what it feels, it doesn't seem to be that bored waiting for prey for days on end.

 

[Laura]

In my experience, boredom only occurs during the waking state of mind.
Whenever I focus on my breath and follow it until my concentration becomes unwavering, I notice that boredom no longer comes up. Same goes for the dreaming state.
Seems to me that the feeling of boredom comes up because the mind is not satisfied with the present state or unable to pay attention to the present matter.
But I think it's limited to humans. That spider on my wall has remained in the same position all day now, and while I can't know what it feels, it doesn't seem to be that bored waiting for prey for days on end.

Well, if everybody was always satisfied with the "present state", nothing would ever happen.

Now, I've often said that I'm never bored because there are always so many interesting things going on and things to think about or do because if something about my environment bugs me, I generally do something about it. So maybe we have a different definition of boredom here?

 

[Eulenspiegel]

I'd define it as the state where one is no longer content with one's present state and seeks some form of stimulation.

If it was for knowledge, it'd be meaningful and lead to an evolution of awareness; but if you look around you in most places, you'd find that most people react to boredom by seeking new way of distracting themselves. Negative dissociation, basically. People open their social media and react to all kinds of stimuli, which takes them away from the present moment.

I just looked the term up, and I find it curious that at least the English word "boredom" seems to have turned up rather late in history:

While many people maintain that Charles Dickens invented the term boredom, this is not the case. Boredom can be found as far back as 1829, when it appears in the August 8th issue of The Albion: “Neither will I follow another precedental mode of boredom, and indulge in a laudatory apostrophe to the destinies which presided over my fashioning.” The word is in occasional use for the next couple of decades before it appears in Dickens’s Bleak House in 1853.

Maybe this indicates that boredom as such became a more common phenomenon during/after the industrial revolution?

 

[Curious Beagle]

I see where you are coming from but many things that you said are breaking basic spiritual law. The "fall" happened when lucifer aka the bringer of light and numerous other sons (most powerful being that is first created by supreme creator gods). They try to fill the void with light. When light meet void it resulted in physical material. Due to different density the level of separation varies due to different distortions in their various spheres (lucifer went to the deepest level of void that is why it fell the deepest and remember the light side try to help the fallen like Jesus on our planet so basically your angels getting ptsd). Think of it like this you need light from heaven to enter your heart but since you have a lot of darkness covering your heart light can't enter it so that is our purpose in physical/ illusion material world trying to get back to heaven or fill this earth sphere with light (love, wisdom , justice, beauty, humility etc). Like C said it is a school so suffering is part of the lesson to guide you back with cause and effect system. You learn to take responsibility of your actions in non destructive ways. Once you change your attitude your consciousness expand.

Boredom is basically the cousin of apathy refusing to move forward. Like Laura said experience is like breathing in, rest, out, rest (repeat) your active motion going out is part of masculine creation or experiencing, your passive/ feminine motion is reflection and the rest to restore balance. Many of us who are on 3D just refuse to do/think about pure evil anymore (killing, raping, plundering, etc) so the dark side created the next best thing to prevent exodus from dark realm. Their aim is to stop you from developing your soul that eventually you get back to the light. That is where materialism as primary distractions enters the equation. Most of us love good time like sex, food, nice stuff, etc. Hell is actually very entertaining place so we stick around but despite having lots fun sometimes you feel empty inside.

 

[Maat]

In my experience, boredom only occurs during the waking state of mind.
Whenever I focus on my breath and follow it until my concentration becomes unwavering, I notice that boredom no longer comes up. Same goes for the dreaming state.
Seems to me that the feeling of boredom comes up because the mind is not satisfied with the present state or unable to pay attention to the present matter.
But I think it's limited to humans. That spider on my wall has remained in the same position all day now, and while I can't know what it feels, it doesn't seem to be that bored waiting for prey for days on end.

Well, if everybody was always satisfied with the "present state", nothing would ever happen.

Now, I've often said that I'm never bored because there are always so many interesting things going on and things to think about or do because if something about my environment bugs me, I generally do something about it. So maybe we have a different definition of boredom here?

It's been a long time that I haven't strongly felt boredom, and now I can remember that when I felt boredom the most, was when I was very depressed. That was a total lost of interest in almost everything. Some sort of lack of vital energy, to put it differently. Anyway I'm happy to not feel it again so intensely. And I also think that a little dose of boredom can be helpful to put you in another direction. It can push you to be more watching, meditative, do things another way... So, it's not so black and white.

 

[Phill4]

Boredom to me predicates that there is a state of excitement that creates a spectrum of what is considered boredom to the self, much like the contrast between pain and pleasure, exceeding the stimulus , whatever it is, to either way becomes pain or pleasure. Some people experience pleasure with a bath, others pleasure with endless hours of exercise , what creates the difference between one and the other is the instrument of perception and the personality, brain etc etc...

One can argue that "oh I am at a point of my life where the boredom indicates a blockage that presents the possibility to move pass the blockage or limitations of the personality, that creates the state of boredom" in which case, we need to be aware that we are not to determine how the lessons play out, or what knowledge we will get. Simply act in our best knowledge and try to remain open. Sometimes the lessons come with enough force to break away tons of the fake personality outside of our control and we are left to walk back home through the swamp barefoot.

Boredom seems to me connected to our psychic state. I may be wrong.

I think that describing all creation the result of boredom may be a bit far a statement, I think it is safer to assume the Universe was the result of the Universe's will, keeping present that the concept of Will of the Absolute is unimaginable to us, we can only relate this spiritual concept by using our human concepts.

 

[Kisito]

What, exactly, is it that you're saying? Absolute knowledge = boredom? Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Can you explain it in a different way?

Hello Odyssey, what I mean is this: if tomorrow you know all things, in every space and in every time, the world would seem frozen, and there would be no action, no surprise, no anticipation. If there is no action, what purpose would this entity live on? It seems that for this "Absolute Knowledge" (God), the boredom would be at its peak!

What, exactly, is it that you're saying? Absolute knowledge = boredom? Your post doesn't make much sense to me. Can you explain it in a different way?

Ditto. From the little I understand your post, it seems to me that it contains a contradiction. How could "God" be bored, and have created so much, but he didn't forget and go back to being a mineral as you are suggesting the rest of existence may do?

More importantly, what is your point, exactly? Are you saying that you are bored or afraid of boredom, and that what your son said made you realize that? Or that you think learning and working on oneself is in vain? I'm confused...

Hello Chu, thank you for your question, it made me think. What makes you confused in my remarks is not where I observe a paradox.
If God is everything, if everything exists then what is this need to create?
If some things are not yet creating, then how can God be, while other things exist outside of him?
So before creating these things, these things did not exist! So how did these new things come about? If they appeared from God, it was because they already existed, since God knows everything, everywhere and at all times.
If these things do not come from God, then there is a first paradox, and I can not continue to demonstrate because I do not have the skills.
So we come back to the first question, what is this need to create?
I would go deeper into the question, saying, what is creation?
I would opt for this: the real creation seems to me to be destruction.
Imagine that we are in 7th density, ie God, Absolute Knowledge or Supreme Consciousness. Now we realize that we know everything. What are we going to exist? If nothing surprises us, we are not moved.
So it seems to me that to find this feeling of questioning about existence, we must fragment Consciousness, otherwise boredom would come to make us suffer.
The 7th density, would seem to be the awareness of boredom. So, it is in all conscience that God would have fragmented his own Consciousness. A kind of divine suicide or "big bang".
When the creation would be the return to unity, and the destruction the framentation of "The One".
Maybe this return to "unity" would begin at the end of 3rd density!

For me, I do not have time to be bored, and I'm not afraid of boredom yet. Once I was afraid of boredom: I had dreamed that I was going to be locked in a cemetery where I could not sit, but to lie down for 30 years. Jailers would come and give me food from time to time.
I think the work is good and important for finding unity. But apart from "Unity" is there a real goal, bigger than boredom?

I think you underestimate the amount of experience to be had in the Universe. I don't think you can run out of lessons, if that's what you mean. And when you approach the end of your 3D cycle, you will fit better into a 4D body, and the possibilities of your experience will increase exponentially.

Some things can become boring though, and you reach a plateau. I think those things are A influences. When I used to play video games, I slowly lost interest in them over the latter few years. It was like I was seeing the limits of them, and they actually became boring. I knew where they lead to, which was basically unfulfilling rewards. So those kind of things that serve as traps for us in 3D, and that have limits, I think can lead to boredom. But that is a function of our having overcome them and learned that there is more.

It's like Luke said in The Last Jedi trailer, "It's so much bigger". I love that line. :P Don't forget that there is no limit to knowledge and your mind.

I think I get what you're saying about God being all, which includes lack. And if it is all, then it is lack also. But why can't God be all things? It seems a sort of paradox. But remember that Non-Being STS exists only as a reflection in 6D. So it's like it has to be there, but isn't in a sense. Of course, these kinds of things are hard to really grok in 3D. My two cents.

Hi 3D Student
This is what seems to me to be paradoxical. If we define God as all information, then yes you are right, it can be all things. But if we define God as "Absolute Consciousness", then what lack can he need?
The lack of God could only be the need for ignorance, the need to forget!
Now suppose that God, the Supreme Consciousness, splits in two, in this case, where would the ONE be? The captain does not seem to be on board at all times.

Actually, it sort of reflects the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi, that the Absolute was alone and desired to be known, but since he had all knowledge within himself s/he/it had to create a sort of "mirror", i.e. the Holy Spirit. It's described in terms of breath: the Absolute breathed out and created in order to relieve constriction.

In my experience, boredom only occurs during the waking state of mind.
Whenever I focus on my breath and follow it until my concentration becomes unwavering, I notice that boredom no longer comes up. Same goes for the dreaming state.
Seems to me that the feeling of boredom comes up because the mind is not satisfied with the present state or unable to pay attention to the present matter.
But I think it's limited to humans. That spider on my wall has remained in the same position all day now, and while I can't know what it feels, it doesn't seem to be that bored waiting for prey for days on end.

Well, if everybody was always satisfied with the "present state", nothing would ever happen.

Now, I've often said that I'm never bored because there are always so many interesting things going on and things to think about or do because if something about my environment bugs me, I generally do something about it. So maybe we have a different definition of boredom here?

Hello Laura, this idea of ​​Ibn al-Arabi speaks to me very well, and the fact that the Absolute wanted to relieve the constriction, it could suppose that the intensity of the "7D" is harder (not to say unbearable) to resist.
Now, I wonder, can this Absolute Consciousness duplicate itself as a biological cell or should we opt for the maxim of atoms "Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed" which is correct?
That is to say, I have trouble conceiving that everything can be conscious at the same time. The cat can not be dead and alive. One or the other.

For my part, boredom would be the end of a degree of consciousness.

 

[BHelmet]

"If we define God as..."

Interesting: the created defining the creator. The belief center determining perceived "reality".

It is lent and I always use that as an impetus to turn away from the 3D world and reflect. I went on my usual juice fast recently. And once again it hits me that much of my eating is driven by boredom. So I can relate to what your son says. I can go weeks without solid food. Same with cigarettes. I have quit, for now, and I have to say that there is a big element of boredom that drives that one too.

But what is boredom? What drives it? Or what IS it? For me, it is a simple lack of enthusiasm. I once wrote a poem whose punchline was: "All that makes us want to live is the desire to feel enthused". Well, perhaps it could be said that this is what sums up a big part of the 4D STS sales job for 3D STS: "You get to FEEL excited about stuff!!!"

A confluence of freedom and boredom? As we become free from our addictions and impulses...it...gets......boring?! All the fussing and struggle and angst... to stay "entertained?" Particularly if we end up back where we started from...

BB King put the feeling very poignantly in "The Thrill is Gone".

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[theos]

I haven't felt 'bored' since stumbling upon all the knowledge presented on this forum. When there is so much to learn how can one be bored?

Maybe it would be better to say that boredom leads to the impetus to seek more knowledge and knowledge leads to creativity and absolute knowledge leads to the creation of worlds?

 

[Divide by Zero]

I'm not sure of your argument on our level, but there was a short story that a friend recommended me to read which poses some interesting ideas about "god".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God%27s_Debris
book is free here: http://www.nowscape.com/godsdebris.pdf

The idea is that god, being every probability including destruction of self, leading to us: separated consciousness.

I like how the book goes into what we learned here in psychology, that the mind is a delusion generator.