Jeffrey Epstein arrested: Washington-NYC pedo ring to be exposed?

MusicMan

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I noted that the billionaire Geoffrey Epstein has been arrested. The charge is human trafficking for slavery and sex.
This may be the first domino in a huge pile to fall. Also note that the US has been collecting sealed indictments. There are over 110,000 sealed indictments ready to be unsealed. This is starting to get interesting. Let's hope the judge can't be bought.
 

Laura

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I noted that the billionaire Geoffrey Epstein has been arrested. The charge is human trafficking for slavery and sex.
This may be the first domino in a huge pile to fall. Also note that the US has been collecting sealed indictments. There are over 110,000 sealed indictments ready to be unsealed. This is starting to get interesting. Let's hope the judge can't be bought.
I keep reading about these piling up sealed indictments but haven't tracked down the source of that information. Perhaps you could do that?
 

Hello H2O

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I think it is possible that they want to hitch Trump to this Epstein affair. It will be interesting to see if Epstein is just a useful idiot to get at Trump. All the while totally ignoring the Clinton connection.

 
I was looking a bit into this Epstein case to see what it was about and came across this article from courthousenews.com that links to this court document, which seems to be the source of the unsealing of over 2000 pages related to the Epstein case. For a moment I thought that was what Laura was looking for. Re-reading hers and MusicMan posts I realize that it is not. I decided to post the links and some quotes below anyway as it might interest those following this case or similar ones.

Intervenors-Appellants Alan M. Dershowitz ("Dershowitz"), Michael Cemovich ("Cernovich"), and the Miami Herald Company (with reporter Julie Brown, jointly the "Herald") appeal from certain orders of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (Robert W. Sweet, Judge) denying their respective motions to unseal filings in a defamation suit. We conclude that the District Court failed to conduct the requisite particularized review when ordering the sealing of the materials at issue. At the same time, we recognize the potential damage to privacy and reputation that may accompany public disclosure of hard-fought, sensitive litigation. We therefore clarify the legal tools that district courts should use in safeguarding the integrity of their dockets. Accordingly, we VACATE the District Court's orders entered on November 2, 2016, May 3, 2017, and August 27, 2018, ORDER the unsealing of the summary judgment record as described further herein, and REMAND the cause to the District Court for particularized review of the remaining sealed materials.

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To summarize, we hold as follows:
(1) Materials submitted in connection with a motion for summary judgment are subject to a strong presumption of public access.
(2) The summary judgment record at issue will be unsealed upon issuance of our mandate, subject to minimal redactions.
(3) Materials submitted in connection with, and relevant to, discovery motions, motions in limine, and other non-dispositive motions are subject to a lesser —but still substantial— presumption of public access.
(4) The District Court is directed to review the remaining sealed materials individually and unseal those materials as appropriate.
(5) District courts should exercise the full range of their substantial powers to ensure their files do not become vehicles for defamation.

For the foregoing reasons, we VACATE the orders of the District Court entered on November 2, 2016, May 3, 2017, and August 27, 2018, ORDER the unsealing of the summary judgment record as described herein, and REMAND the cause to the District Court for particularized review of the remaining materials.

In undertaking this task, the District Court may be well-served by ordering the parties to submit to the Court unredacted, electronic copies of the remaining sealed materials, as well as specific, proposed redactions. The District Court may also order the parties to identify and notify additional parties whose privacy interests would likely be implicated by disclosure of these materials.

In the interests of judicial economy, any future appeal in this matter shall be referred to this panel.

POOLER, Circuit fudge, dissenting in part: I join the Court's opinion in every respect but one: the decision to unseal the summary judgment record ourselves. I agree that all or most of the material must be unsealed. Nevertheless, in my view, the district court is better suited to the task. As the Court's opinion recognizes in connection with the remaining sealed materials, the district court is better positioned to communicate with the parties and any nonparties whose privacy interests might be affected by unsealing. On that score, it is worth clarifying here the breadth of the Court's unsealing order it unseals nearly 2000 pages of material. The task of identifying and making specific redactions in such a substantial volume is perilous; the consequences of even a seemingly minor error may be grave and are irrevocable. Moreover, although I share the majority's concern about avoiding delay, I would alleviate that concern through other means—perhaps with an order directing the district court to act expeditiously and by making dear what types of limited redactions are and are not appropriate. In sum, I would unseal the district court's summary judgment decision only and leave the remainder of the materials for the district court to review, redact, and unseal on remand.
 

Roger

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I think it is possible that they want to hitch Trump to this Epstein affair. It will be interesting to see if Epstein is just a useful idiot to get at Trump. All the while totally ignoring the Clinton connection.

All the years I was a detective, this was the way to get the people that you were after.. always get the little guy or the underling and
threaten him with jail or worse.. scares him to rat on the person that they are really after... usually just like "good cop , bad cop... it's been done this way for years
 

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I guess they're thinking, with one eye on next year's election, and having seen what #MeToo can do, that they can take out Trump with 'controlled revelations' from a re-opening of this case?

Here's yesterday's NYT:

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But it's more likely to completely backfire on the Democrats...


"...some of our faves..."

As in, top Democrats, including former presidents...

I'll be surprised if this thing breaks free of the omerta that normally protects the DC-NYC elite pedo ring, but we live in surprising times.
 
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Leelee

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I really wish/hope his arrest is the domino that sets the whole thing tumbling. But l'm also not holding my breath. If he even names any names, I doubt there will be any really big fish on the list. I think he'd have been toast already if that was even a possibility. I wonder if he's being offered up for some reason, kind of like Weinstein was, though not sure of the objective. And why all of the hoopla now, when he was just given a little slap previously. I'd sure love to live to see a day where all those high ranking pedo monsters are taken down.
 

Arwenn

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I sure hope something comes out of this, but like others have said above, ain’t holding my breath. This article on SoTT offers an interesting insight into why this may be occurring now:

Is there something larger afoot with the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein?

Tom Luongo
Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:00 UTC

Serial pederast Jeffrey Epstein is going to be arrested again.
The big questions are why? And why now?
I never doubted Donald Trump's sincerity in wanting Hillary in jail. But the reality is that Trump was not in any position to do so. Until a few months ago.

When Attorney General William Barr ended the Mueller investigation back in February that was a turning point. I talked about it back then in a piece called "The Old Political Order is Just Old."
Mueller, his staff of hatchetmen, the Obama administration and the rest of the corrupt old-guard in D.C. fully expected to be allowed free rein to convict Trump politically of Obstruction of Justice based on an interpretation of Federal Statutes that could only be justified in the world of Philip K. Dick's Minority Report.

When that didn't happen, they are now looking at potential blowback from a vain and vindictive man occupying the supposedly most powerful office in the world.

But is that really the case anymore? It seems John Bolton has been more president than Trump recently.
I was cautiously optimistic that Trump would turn the corner on his presidency now that Mueller, impeachment and the rest of it would lift from his shoulders. His foreign policy maneuvers didn't fill me with much, if any, confirmation of this hope.

But domestically signs were there that he had stabilized the battlefield.

Epstein's arrest tells me he's now out for blood.

Because this goes directly to the heart of the matter. Trump left the Clintons' social circle in disgust and I'm convinced he ran to stop her corrupt sell out of the U.S.

Never forget that, while corruption is rampant in D.C., it is not all-pervasive. It's not a black and white thing.

William Barr may not be a Boy Scout or anything but even he, like Trump, has a disgust circuit. And that circuit has a threshold.

The level of corruption of the Departments of Justice, State, Treasury and the intelligence agencies needed to coordinate the RussiaGate hoax all to serve as Hillary's revenge porn was too much for enough people.

And there are still plenty of people in all of those departments willing to step up now that the board state has changed.

Remember back when Trump said we should just leave Hillary be, she's been through enough? That wasn't him capitulating to the Deep State, that was him offering her a way out. He knew then what was going on but thought he was powerless to stop it, politically.

To go after her you go after the person who is her Achilles' heel, Epstein through his association with Bill. Because what if this isn't just about Bill's antics?

But this is more than just Hillary and Bill.

This is likely far deeper a rabbit hole than anyone in D.C. wants to admit. Don't think for a second that Epstein hasn't been blackmailing very prominent people for years.

Because he has. And they are all now scared to death.

And Robert Mueller is up to his neck in this. Because it was Mueller who helped Epstein mostly get off the hook the last time and had the court documents sealed.

Now that Mike Cernovich worked to get those documents unsealed, we have an arrest warrant a week later by a Justice Department led by someone, at this point, loyal to Trump.

Even if Barr and Trump have a marriage of convenience here, it doesn't matter.

What matters is that Epstein will no longer be able to hide behind Clinton bag men and will this time have to cut a real deal to stay out of gen pop.

This process will be slow and painful, but it will grind to the kind of conclusion that will only benefit Trump's re-election bid. It will be an epic drip feed of leaks, innuendos, implications, indictments and the rest.

Because there comes a point where the Alinsky method of accusing your enemy of the thing you do backfires when it's raping 14-year-old girls.


Once this thing gets a head of steam, once the #MeToo crowd gets a hold of this, there won't be anyone left standing. I always said Hillary would indict herself. Her insane lust for power and revenge against her obstacles led us here.

And it will lead her to the kind of shame and disgrace that befits her avarice.

When Nancy Pelosi's daughter is out there signaling for her mother on this immediately, you know this is bad.

Pelosi doesn't roll over for nothing folks. Think what you want about her but she's a pitbull. And she rolled over on border wall funding last week.

This Epstein arrest is a testament to what happens when the pendulum swings too far in one direction. Where despicable people get away with the most heinous acts simply because they are connected in a web of corruption and venality.

Maybe this is the moment of Peak Swamp? Maybe it's the moment where we can see things begin, ever so slightly to improve.

Is it too little, too late? Likely. But something had to be done to keep our faith in our political and social institutions intact. Because otherwise that way leads to only chaos and collapse.
 

Laura

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Well, that Luongo piece is encouraging. How good is he in his analyses?
 
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