JFK Assassination Records

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Here they are:

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-release

In view of our "knowledge input on a continual basis" and its historical ramifications, I think that any forum members interested ought to download the lot and start combing through them for interesting finds.

Apparently, quite a few other people are already on the job; I read a number of finds on Twitter already. Among them is a document that says that there was a bullet hole in the windscreen of the presidential car and that one bullet entered his throat around the adam's apple. Apparently, another says that JFK was with Marilyn Monroe when she died. Still others chronicle many plans of the agencies to assassinate foreign leaders so I think the US can give up any claim to being an innocent do-gooder.

So, have at it!
 
Here are a couple of Twitter accounts who report their findings:

_https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_
_https://twitter.com/IWillRedPillYou
 
Has anyone here visited the site in Dallas? Most of the witnesses are gone now. According to my sister who visited the site some years ago, elderly people came out to visitors to point out things like pieces of curbing, facing stone, etc that did not quite match. They told her that a team came through almost immediately to replace damaged curbing and building face materials. These people pointed out lots of details that might be missed by an observer.
 
Posting this one from RT for reference

https://www.rt.com/uk/407926-cambridge-reporter-jfk-documents/
English newspaper ‘tipped off’ 25mins before JFK assassination, documents show

A reporter for the Cambridge Evening News received a call telling him to ring the US embassy for “big news” just 25 minutes before John F. Kennedy was shot dead. The revelation emerged in fresh documents released by the US government on Thursday night.

According to the memo, police reported the call to the British intelligence service. Britain’s domestic intelligence agency MI5 then is understood to have pledged to support “in every way possible” any investigation in the UK relating to Kennedy’s murder.

The memo, signed by CIA deputy director James Angleton, reads: “The caller said only that the Cambridge News reporter should call the American Embassy in London for some big news and then hung up.

“After the word of the President’s death was received the reporter informed the Cambridge police of the anonymous call and the police informed MI5.

“The important point is that the call was made, according to MI5 calculations, about 25 minutes before the President was shot.

“The Cambridge reporter had never received a call of this kind before, and MI5 state that he is known to them as a sound and loyal person with no security record.”


The memo said it was not the first time in the past year that people in the UK had received similar anonymous calls which were “strangely coincidental in nature.” They seemed to have been particularly linked to the “case of Dr. Ward” – potentially a reference to ‘Dr.’ Stephen Ward, one of the central figures in the Profumo affair, a spy/sex scandal which had rocked the British establishment earlier that year.

The US government released 2,800 classified files on the assassination of JFK on Thursday night.

President Donald Trump said the public deserves to be “fully informed” of what happened, given the event has been the subject of various conspiracy theories. Some documents, however, were withheld at the request of government agencies over national security concerns.

Kennedy was shot dead on November 2, 1963, in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas, while riding in his presidential motorcade. Former US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald was charged with his murder. Oswald himself was shot dead two days later by nightclub owner Jack Ruby before he could stand trial.
 
From Bloomberg via AP

JFK Files: Thousands Released But Trump Holds Back Others
_https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-26/trump-coy-on-what-s-coming-out-on-jfk-assassination
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (CALVIN WOODWARD and DEB RIECHMANN)
October 26, 2017, 9:23 AM GMT+2 October 27, 2017, 5:07 AM GMT+2
Washington (AP) -- President Donald Trump blocked the release of hundreds of records on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, bending to CIA and FBI appeals, while the National Archives came out Thursday night with a hefty cache of others.
"I have no choice,"
Trump said in a memo, citing
"potentially irreversible harm" to national security if he were to allow all records to come out now
. He placed those files under a six-month review while letting 2,800 others come out, racing a deadline to honor a law mandating their release.

The documents approved for release capture the frantic days after the Nov. 22, 1963, assassination, during which federal agents madly chased after tips, however thin, juggled rumors and sifted through leads worldwide.

They include cables, notes and reports stamped "Secret" that reveal the suspicions of the era — around Cubans and Communists. They cast a wide net over varied activities of the Kennedy administration, such as its covert efforts to upend Fidel Castro's government in Cuba.

For historians, it's a chance to answer lingering questions, put some unfounded conspiracy theories to rest, perhaps give life to other theories.

Despite having months to prepare for disclosures that have been set on the calendar for 25 years, Trump's decision came down to a last-minute debate with intelligence agencies — a tussle the president then prolonged by calling for still more review.

The delay sparked a round of finger-pointing among agencies and complaints that Trump should have released all records.

Roger Stone, a sometime Trump adviser who wrote a book about his theories on the assassination, urged Trump to review personally any material that government agencies still want to withhold. Trump should at least "spot check" any extensive redactions to make sure agencies are not "dabbling in acts of criminal insubordination," Stone said in a statement.

As for the unreleased documents, Trump will impress upon federal agencies that "only in the rarest cases" should JFK files stay secret after the six-month review
, officials said.

In the meantime, experts will be poring through a mountain of minutiae and countless loose threads in search of significant revelations.

In the chaotic aftermath of the assassination, followed two days later by the murder of the shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald while in police custody, FBI Director J, Edgar Hoover vented his frustration in a formerly secret report found in the files. It opened:
"There is nothing further on the Oswald case except that he is dead."
But, reflecting on Oswald less than an hour after he died, Hoover already sensed theories would form about a conspiracy broader than the lone assassin.

"The thing I am concerned about, and so is (deputy attorney general) Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin,"
he said.

He also reported:
"Last night we received a call from our Dallas office from a man talking in a calm voice and saying he was a member of a committee organized to kill Oswald."
Hoover said he relayed that warning to Dallas police and was assured Oswald would be sufficiently protected. Oswald was shot dead the next day by Jack Ruby.

A document from 1975 contains a partial deposition by Richard Helms, a deputy CIA director under Kennedy who later became CIA chief, to the Rockefeller Commission, which was studying unauthorized CIA activities in domestic affairs. Commission lawyers appeared to be probing for information on what foreign leaders might have been the subject of assassination attempts by or on behalf of the CIA.

A lawyer asks Helms:
"Is there any information involved with the assassination of President Kennedy which in any way shows that Lee Harvey Oswald was in some way a CIA agent or agent"
— here the document ends, short of his answer.

Among the files is a more than 400-page document that appeared to describe people being monitored as potential threats to Kennedy and his successor, Lyndon B. Johnson.

Officials described one such person this way:
"Subject participated in pickets against JFK in 1961. Allegedly trained in guerrilla tactics & sabotage. Considered very dangerous by those who know him. Has visited USA & Cuba. Considered armed and dangerous."
Some suspicions missed the mark badly.

One document describes a person who sent a letter to Johnson in
December 1963 stating "you're doomed." The document says: "Interviewed 1/23/64; friendly. Said letter was a joke. Not dangerous. Attending 5th grade."

The collection also discloses a Sept. 14, 1962, meeting of a group of Kennedy's senior aides, including brother Robert, the attorney general, as they discussed a range of options against Castro's communist government.

The meeting was told the CIA would look into the possibility of sabotaging airplane parts that were to be shipped to Cuba from Canada. McGeorge Bundy, JFK's national security adviser, cautioned that sensitive ideas like sabotage would have to be considered in more detail on a case-by-case basis.

Much of Thursday passed with nothing from the White House or National Archives except silence, leaving unclear how the government would comply with a law requiring the records to come out by the end of the day — unless Trump was persuaded by intelligence agencies to hold some back.

White House officials said the FBI and CIA made the most requests within the government to withhold some information.

Trump ordered agencies that have proposed withholding material related to the assassination to report to the archivist by next March 12 on which specific information meets the standard for continued secrecy.

That standard includes details that could cause "harm to the military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement or conduct of foreign relations," Trump wrote in his order. The archivist will have two weeks to tell Trump whether those recommendations validate keeping the withheld information a secret after April 26.

The full record will still be kept from the public for at least six months — and longer if agencies make a persuasive enough case for continued secrecy.

The collection includes more than 3,100 records — comprising hundreds of thousands of pages — that have never been seen by the public. About 30,000 documents were released previously — with redactions.
Whatever details are released, they're not expected to give a definitive answer to a question that still lingers for some: Whether anyone other than Oswald was involved in the assassination.

The Warren Commission in 1964 concluded that Oswald had been the lone gunman, and another congressional probe in 1979 found no evidence to support the theory that the CIA had been involved. But other interpretations, some more creative than others, have persisted.

Associated Press writers Alanna Durkin Richer in Boston and Laurie Kellman in Washington contributed to this report.
 
Laura said:
Here they are:

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-release

In view of our "knowledge input on a continual basis" and its historical ramifications, I think that any forum members interested ought to download the lot and start combing through them for interesting finds.

Apparently, quite a few other people are already on the job; I read a number of finds on Twitter already. Among them is a document that says that there was a bullet hole in the windscreen of the presidential car and that one bullet entered his throat around the adam's apple. Apparently, another says that JFK was with Marilyn Monroe when she died. Still others chronicle many plans of the agencies to assassinate foreign leaders so I think the US can give up any claim to being an innocent do-gooder.

So, have at it!

Regarding the one with the bullet entering the throat I found the page (I think) although it’s a comment made on a report that I’m not sure if it’s textually cited anywhere.

_https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNJw5J3UIAA9N9F?format=jpg&name=medium
 
Looks like many people are interested in it and at least on my end the page isn't available (at the moment).
 
Thanks, Laura!

A few days ago I went back to see the Oliver Sone movie "JFK", this publication comes close to my finger now :)
 
I was sent a whole presentation on cd-rom of the bullet hole windshield information. It's a very well researched submission by a researcher from Pennsylvania. I can send it to you if you wish Laura.
 
ramaj said:
I was sent a whole presentation on cd-rom of the bullet hole windshield information. It's a very well researched submission by a researcher from Pennsylvania. I can send it to you if you wish Laura.

You can attach it to a post too!!!
 
From Politico

What you won't find in the final JFK assassination records
Numerous government documents with potential bearing on President John F. Kennedy’s murder have gone missing or were destroyed.

By BRYAN BENDER 10/26/2017 09:08 PM EDT
_https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/26/jfk-assassination-files-release-244227?lo=ap_b1
Don’t expect an end to the conspiracy theories about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy — even after the vast network of JFK-obsessed researchers pore over the final trove of government documents.

That’s because the thousands of files made public by the National Archives late Thursday — and others that President Donald Trump announced will undergo an additional 180-day review — according to former government officials and leading assassination scholars, including those who believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and the many more who don't.

They insist that much of what the government knew or suspected about people who may have had knowledge of Kennedy’s murder, or who had a motive to take part in a conspiracy or cover-up, remains hidden from the public or was destroyed.

The Secret Service, for example, has acknowledged it destroyed some of its records about the events in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Army and Navy intelligence files on key individuals have never been made available, and in some cases were shielded from a trio of government probes into Kennedy's killing in the 1960s and 1970s.

Also missing, they say, is part of a CIA report on Oswald, an ex-Marine who defected to the Soviet Union before returning to the United States. And much mystery remains about all the files maintained by the late James Jesus Angleton, the top CIA counterintelligence official who took over the agency’s probe of the assassination.
"I have no doubt he destroyed files on the initial leads of the investigation,"
said John Tunheim, who chaired the government’s Assassination Records Review Board from 1992 to 1998 and is now a federal judge in Minnesota and had access to all the files in the JFK collection.
"It seems inevitable there were other files that were destroyed."

The documents made public and those still undisclosed Thursday represent the last of the paper trail that the CIA, FBI and other agencies provided to Tunheim's special oversight board, which was empowered by Congress to collect anything left in government files that might relate to the plot against Kennedy. Congress passed that law after Oliver Stone’s movie “JFK” called attention to a host of conspiracy theories about the murder.

But officials who investigated the case and researchers who study the assassination point to a number of relevant documents known or believed to have existed that aren’t found in the JFK collection.

Evidence for their existence includes the testimony of individuals with direct knowledge, citations in other files, or evidence of meetings and intelligence and law enforcement operations that probably would have been recorded in some fashion.

Tunheim
also believes that some documents his review board did not deem relevant to the assassination two decades ago may very well be, given new details that have emerged in the years since.

One such set of suspected files involves a shadowy CIA figure named George Joannides, whom a subsequent Freedom of Information Act lawsuit revealed had possible links to Oswald that he hid from Congress.

Joannides, who died in 1990, served as the CIA's liaison to the House Select Committee on Assassinations, which concluded there were strong indications of a conspiracy. But he had never divulged at the time that he had managed a group of Cuban exiles seeking to overthrow Cuban President Fidel Castro and had ties to Oswald.

Robert Blakey, who was the staff director of the House panel, is still livid at how he and his staff were misled and
"the fact that I didn’t get to put him under oath."
“We were never able to get the file of the group Lee Harvey Oswald met with,"
Blakey, now a law professor at Notre Dame University, said in an interview..
"Joannides was the supervisor of that group."

None of the documents released Thursday include any referencing Joannides, a search of the titles and subjects shows.

The legion of researchers obsessed with the assassinationranging from academics to grass-roots sleuths are notoriously at odds with each over who killed Kennedy and who may have covered up the evidence, to protect either government secrets or the culprits. The charges and counter-charges of being a kook or a government stooge of one stripe or another are legendary.

But they almost universally agree that the final batch of records will add little if any new information, in large part because some of the most potentially revelatory information simply isn't in there.

For example, they view the scant official record on Oswald as one of the strongest indications that officialdom knew things it never wanted made public.

"It is literally impossible that Lee Harvey Oswald was not all over government records," said Russ Baker, an investigative journalist and founder of the alternative news site WhoWhatWhy.com, which has a team of researchers poring over the newly released documents. "The simple fact there are hardly any reports that mention him is evidence of a cover-up."

Fellow investigative journalist Gerald Posner, who unlike Baker believes Oswald acted alone, agreed that the official record on the assassin almost certainly contains missing pieces. Those could include files that would have shed light on any links Oswald had to the U.S. intelligence community.

"Assume for a second there was something truly, horrifically embarrassing to the CIA or FBI?"
Posner posed, such as information suggesting that those agencies might have been able to prevent the assassination.
"They left the files in the National Archives? It would be startling to find something in there that blew the case open."

One vanished set of CIA documents on Oswald is the fifth of a seven-volume collection known as his 201 file. It was compiled by the agency's Office of Security.

"There are documents that speak about Volume 5 and people who read it,"
said John Newman, a political science professor at James Madison University and 20-year veteran of Army intelligence.
"Where and when did it go extinct?"

He said he has come across a number of other cases in which files have gone missing, including some he reviewed when the Assassination Records Review Board first released documents in the 1990s.

Some of those gaps Newman attributed to simple bureaucratic mismanagement. Tunheim, the federal judge, also said that in his experience that the CIA's filing system "was not well put together."

But that can't explain it all, Newman insisted.
The records that disappeared all seemed to be important, such as testimony to the Senate's Church Committee in the mid-1970s that in the course of probing CIA abuses delved into the Kennedy assassination,
he said.

"There was a consistency to the type of information that went missing,"
Newman said in an interview.
"The high number of incidents seem to not be able to be ascribed to human error. We should have screw-ups on things that don’t matter."

Some of the most frustrated people are the former government investigators like Blakey, who is also critical of the Secret Service's failure to retain documents.

Dan Hardway, who also was on the staff of the House probe in the late 1970s, believes that the records held in the National Archives are far from complete, and that his panel's work was stymied by the CIA. He recently filed a lawsuit along with Blakey and another former staffer seeking agency files about its relationship with their committee, including anything related to Joannides.

In its response to the lawsuit, the CIA reported that 13 documents exist that are related to Hardway's request — but none have been released and they are not in the National Archives.

Mysteries also abound about numerous files that are not listed among the 3,571 documents identified in the National Archives JFK collection as
"withheld in full."
"There are a variety of things we know were torched,"
said Rex Bradford, president of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, a nonprofit research organization that has digitized hundreds of thousands of documents and government reports about the Kennedy assassination.

For example, Army intelligence informed the House committee that it had destroyed a file on Oswald, said Bradford, a leading authority on the government files that have been released.

"There are references in other files to a 'Harvey Lee Oswald' FBI file no one has ever seen,"
he added.

The last government attempt to shake loose what is left — the records review board headed by Tunheim — had to rely on agencies being forthcoming. And people who worked for the board have lingering doubts they were able to get their hands on everything.

"We had to rely on the agencies to provide us documents pursuant to requests we made,"
the board's executive director, David Marwell, said in an interview.
"There was no practical way for us to determine if they were completely compliant." The panel was worried enough, he said, that it put agency officials it was working with to find relevant documents under oath.

What is clear is that the final JFK documents will not be the last word.

Said Newman, the former Army intelligence officer:
“This thing is not over by a long shot."

The President visiting Las Vegas on September 28, 1963

https://youtu.be/ktLX6ejAnGM?rel=0
 
Laura said:
ramaj said:
I was sent a whole presentation on cd-rom of the bullet hole windshield information. It's a very well researched submission by a researcher from Pennsylvania. I can send it to you if you wish Laura.

You can attach it to a post too!!!
as of now I don't have a computer, but I think I can network around that. I will ask my boss if I can use his computer Sunday.
 
If some body wants to bulk download all the jfk files released here is the link to download.
_https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/795goq/bulk_download_links_for_recently_released_jfk/
 
Alejo said:
Regarding the one with the bullet entering the throat I found the page (I think) although it’s a comment made on a report that I’m not sure if it’s textually cited anywhere.

_https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNJw5J3UIAA9N9F?format=jpg&name=medium

This article on zero hedge is not too lengthy but still goes to quite some depth on the topic:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-27/one-paragraph-you-need-read-jfk-assassination-files-may-change-everything
 
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