Meeting loved ones that passed away in 4D

David Topi

David Topi

Jedi Master
Hi all,


Had another dream that raised an interesting thought. My father died in 2008 and sometimes I have had dreams about him. Nothing out of the ordinary. This time, the dream I have had has been very interesting. In simply terms, "he told me" (in the dream) that I should not worry, that we were going to "meet" again in 4D.


Alright, I thought. That is an interesting message, even if it is real or not, or even if it is just wishful thinking or my inner desire that this is so.


But, would you guys think that it could be possible that people that have died recently and are "waiting" (whatever it means) in 5D will (supposing they were ready) incarnate next already in 4D and that if we, (supposing we are ready also) when we move to 4D, "meet" them again.


It is simply a wild speculation, however, never before that thought crossed my mind that we could "re-unite" with family members no longer here, that will be now simply "waiting" for us there on the next level.
 
A big for what it's worth here, but I think they're always with us as there's no separation. There is no 'here' or 'there'. That said, anything is possible.

The dream itself, as you said, may have more than one possible interpretation. A while back, I had a dream about my mother who passed. It may have been her or another possibility was that it was my higher self or even some part of my subconscious internal state seeking healing from past traumas. Unfortunately, there's no way I can be sure. So perhaps there's some part of you that may need to be reassured that you will see him again to resolve some past wounding or even 'just' because you miss his presence so deeply.

Know, Akar, that 'only' your dad's physical presence is gone. Those we love are never truly 'leave'. :hug2: Not sure if that helps or answers your question.
 
truth seeker said:
A big for what it's worth here, but I think they're always with us as there's no separation. There is no 'here' or 'there'. That said, anything is possible.

The dream itself, as you said, may have more than one possible interpretation. A while back, I had a dream about my mother who passed. It may have been her or another possibility was that it was my higher self or even some part of my subconscious internal state seeking healing from past traumas. Unfortunately, there's no way I can be sure. So perhaps there's some part of you that may need to be reassured that you will see him again to resolve some past wounding or even 'just' because you miss his presence so deeply.

Know, Akar, that 'only' your dad's physical presence is gone. Those we love are never truly 'leave'. :hug2: Not sure if that helps or answers your question.
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Thanks, agree with it all. Normally I take these kind of dreams simply as part of my "inner"dialogue (that being messages from subconscious, higher self, other parts of myself in other realities, etc), in this case, well, it was the message I got that triggered the question that some souls in 5D may be soon waiting to go into 4D and that we may "meet" (in case we recognize each other) meet again with full memories of our past relationships.
Guess it is just some food for thought, and maybe we will have the answers (or not) sometime in the future.


And you are right, only the physical part is gone!
 
Hi Truth Seeker,
I've heard that our loved ones who have passed away never leave us, but I don't really understand this concept. I think about my mother, who died over 20 years ago, every day, but I still miss her. I have a memory of her, she does exist in my thoughts, but to all intents and purposes, I will never see her in that form anymore, so she (I hate to say it, but her false personality) is gone. I don't want to bother her in any way either. She's not my mother any more.
A group of friends and I once held a Ouija session in Galway, Ireland. There was a terrible storm, the lights flickered, which freaked us out somewhat, but also seemed a bit corny. Maybe the spirits needed a little electricity to communicate.
Something claiming to be someone's little sister left a message, so did my "mother". It did feel like her presence, and I was told "you are never alone". She left quickly, and I thought that would be just like her, as she would have felt such things were rather beneath her dignity (I've never touched a board since).
I also had a vivid dream about my mum and granny (my girls). Mum cooked a fantastic meal, and we felt joyous to be reunited. They both seemed much wiser, more mature and nonjudgmental. Then my mum looked at me very gravely, and I knew something was very, very wrong indeed, but I don't remember what she said.
I guess they are continuing their journey somewhere out there.
 
Hi Akar

I like to think that we will see our loved ones again. It seems too cruel to think that the people we have loved so much are gone from us forever. I have had many, many dreams about both my Mum and Nana over the years since they passed away. Never about my Dad or anyone else though. My Nana is always back alive again, and we know she is only here temporarily but she always manages to live on much longer than we thought she would and I spend my time worrying when she's going to depart again, not wanting her to! I always dream my Mum is being mean to me, would love to understand why because I adored her and only remember her being kind and loving ..... very strange. Perhaps it will become clear to me one these days ....
 
Every time I dream about my parents that are both dead I have the fine sensation that they came to see me in my dream. That the dream was the space to meet them. I miss them very much, specially my father that died 20 years ago just before the Barcelona Olympics, suddenly. Every day I talk to him, and when he appears in my dreams I feel his presence so intensely that it is very amazing. I have always the feeling that I will meet my parents again, but maybe it is wishful thinking.

I don't know if dreams are also a sort of trip to another dimension? Maybe. What the C's think about dreams? Is there something we can learn about dreams under the perspective of the C's?
 
This topic brings up more questions for me.

When we die will we meet old relatives in the flesh or will be in the presence of their spirit or essence?

What about past lives? Perhaps there is a child or husband I loved very deeply in a past life and would like to see again as well as the relatives who went before me in this life. Will the bonds you had with previouse-life mates still holdover after your most recent incarnation?

Whatever happens I'm sure it is beyond what I'm capable of comprehending at the moment. As the C's say, "Wait and see." :)
 
Assuming there is such a thing as other densities (not to mention dimensions) and assuming reincarnation is the method by which we repeatedly live and die in densities under the 5th density in order to learn lessons and grow in awareness to spiral our way up through the densities back to union with the One, it' really not a stretch to imagine meeting loved ones again, let alone entertaining the concept that they never left.

This concept is even more imaginable when we consider that time is an illusion and that we are simultaneously existing in every moment of every incarnation in every density. So, just like the Cs, who claimed "we are you in the future" (as opposed to "you will be us in the future" or "we had been you in the past") while simultaneously communicating with those in the present, our dearly departed can exist in every moment of every incarnation while also existing in every density.

If the Cs of the future are with us in the now, so too are our dearly departed. But I would think that what remains after death is a person's essence, not the personality aspects that are specific to each incarnation.

Gonzo
 
From Paleochristianity:

"In the Cassiopaea material, humanity is referred to as a fractured soul unit."

"Cosmic Mind connects to the Creation via its fragmented consciousness units, or or Souls."

Following this line of reasoning, we are ultimately but parts of one. If so, we are all together all the "time."

IMO.
 
loreta said:
Every time I dream about my parents that are both dead I have the fine sensation that they came to see me in my dream. That the dream was the space to meet them. I miss them very much, specially my father that died 20 years ago just before the Barcelona Olympics, suddenly. Every day I talk to him, and when he appears in my dreams I feel his presence so intensely that it is very amazing. I have always the feeling that I will meet my parents again, but maybe it is wishful thinking.

I don't know if dreams are also a sort of trip to another dimension? Maybe. What the C's think about dreams? Is there something we can learn about dreams under the perspective of the C's?
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Laura, recently, posted the session from 21 March 2008 when were chatting about her dream about talking to Gurdjieff.

Laura said:
Your dream about talking to Gurdjieff and what he said? (L) I don't remember what he said in the dream. (Ailen) that to tell Perceval that it was like a torture. (L) Okay, I remember. {This was a dream I had told to everyone and then more or less forgot (as happens with dreams). The gist of it was that Gurdjieff was explaining to me some things about buffers and programs and he expressed quite strongly that much of what parents do to children is quite simply torture and that the studies about how torture victims survive and the damage that is done to them would be helpful to understand why many people have so many difficulties getting over or through programming and buffers. In the dream, it was a very powerful conveyance of knowledge and he specifically told me to tell Perceval.} So you want to ask about that dream? (Perceval) Well it was just a follow up to that question, if what he told you was accurate. (L) okay, did I really meet Gurdjieff in my dream? That was really a cool dream.

A: Pretty much. You are a member of the same soul group
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Cassiopaeans were frequently giving guidance into translating some of the dreams that contained some information relevant to current events.

You can search, on your own, sessions at an angle of the word "dream", for example.
 
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