Mass Migration - a plan, or just a consequence of some other plan

[Ruth]

Migrants are often used from the PTB to blame all sorts of social ills from crime, to lack of jobs, and so on. Foreigners always make a good scapegoat when it's really those with a foreign psychology (psychopaths in and out of power) who cause most of these problems. But it keeps people divided and distracted, and it's been effective propaganda used for centuries.

Yes, I think that's probably it. Useful scapegoats of their psychopathic machinations. The people that run this world are nothing if opportunists. They'll use anything for gain.

 

[PERLOU]

En attendant c'est un vrai désastre tous ces pauvres gens qui fuient des conditions horribles que personne ne voudrait pour lui-même, tous ces gens maltraités, tous ces morts, c'est épouvantable mais que faire ?...

In the meantime it's a disaster all those poor people fleeing horrible conditions that no one would want for himself, all these mistreated people, all these dead is terrible but what? ...

 

[loreta]

There was a truck found with about 20 to 50 dead persons in it in Austria. They say they maybe suffocated. They were found because the death juices from the bodies were running out of the back door. The German Chancellor Merkel and other European politicians are making big words because of this.

And another boat full of fugitives sank before the coast off Libya. Too many deaths connected with refugees today. A modern migration period.

http://www.rt.com/news/313603-migrants-dead-austria-lorry/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/27/us-europe-grants-eu-austria-idUSKCN0QW19H20150827

The number this morning is 70 people that died in the truck. Just imagine....

The politicians are more than opportunists. They are, but I think they are sadistic, devilish. Because for them we are worst than rats.

 

[Anthony]

I guess it's becoming more and more apparent that in a psychopathological system, the people become expendable.

 

[casper]

We are witnessing the endlessly large number of individual tragedies in the ranks of the refugees, but also the tragedy of individual European countries. Countries such as Italy, Greece, Macedonia and Serbia, the scene of all major conflicts between bewildered refugees, law enforcement and (firmly believe it) the local population who will feel increasingly threatened. Why do I believe that they will feel threatened?
The power of advertising, newspapers and other media.
link:

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According to UN data, in the Mediterranean this year, killing about 2,400 refugees. More than 100,000 of them arrived to Italy, and another 160,000 to Greece

 

[Persej]

Hungary finished the first phase of building a fence. Now they will start making a tall fence that will not be so easy to jump over.

In the meantime, in Belgrade the migrants now have a free internet in park near the main bus station, and soon in another park where they usually stay.

When they connect to the internet in that zone they will automatically get the special page for migrants with all the important info for them. Very professional from Telenor, one of ours cell phone/internet providers.

http://hr.sott.net/article/2936-Telenor-omogucio-besplatan-internet-za-izbeglice-u-Beogradu

 

[Dirgni]

About 25 years ago the Iron Curtain fell and now they build a new one. What comes next? Spring Guns? A strip of death? Concentrations camps? Labour camps? A cold war or a hot one?

25 years ago I had hope that there will be better times coming.

 

[casper]

About 25 years ago the Iron Curtain fell and now they build a new one. What comes next? Spring Guns? A strip of death? Concentrations camps? Labour camps? A cold war or a hot one?

25 years ago I had hope that there will be better times coming.

In Europe, built 4 wall that should keep refugees, perhaps in preparation for construction of a new wall because the refugees have found a new way, link:
https://translate.google.hr/translate?sl=hr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jutarnji.hr%2Fpronasli-rupu-u-zakonu-sirijske-izbjeglice-presli-arkticku-granicu-norveske---na-biciklu%2F1406016%2F&edit-text=

 

[Nević Nenad]

In Belgrade, Serbia, one drunk man is 'helping' the refuges in his own way (drunk :) ). But he says the right thing in 00:36

http://vp.nyt.com/video/2015/08/28/35228_1_migrants-blog-drunkman_wg_720p.mp4

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/reporters-notebook/migrants/serbia-belgrade

Ivan Tovic is a morning person. He’s singing, laughing, playing with children; he’s a burst of optimism in the relentless boredom of this park-slash-refugee camp near Belgrade’s central bus station.

But there’s one issue: Ivan has had at least six cans of Staropramen beer. It’s 9:30 a.m.

Another problem: Islam, the dominant religion among the Syrian refugees congregated here, forbids alcohol and takes a dim view of those who drink it.

Yet Mr. Tovic is tolerated here, perhaps even welcomed. He bends down to greet an elderly Afghan couple with what seems like sincere deference, even kissing the sun-weathered hand of the wife. He lends his bicycle to a lanky Syrian boy to take for a spin around the park.

“Look, I’m a drunk, but I drink because I feel bad about all that is happening here,” he says in a rare moment of sadness. Then his face breaks into a huge grin to greet Mohammad, a 5-year-old boy playing beside him.

Mohammad’s mother, Yasmine, takes the opportunity to rest. But she suddenly becomes wary when someone tells her Ivan is "sakraan," or drunk.

“Really? Maybe we should move away,” she says as she scans the park for another location.

But she stays. Mr. Tovic and Mohammad play on.

 

[mabar]

About 25 years ago the Iron Curtain fell and now they build a new one. What comes next? Spring Guns? A strip of death? Concentrations camps? Labour camps? A cold war or a hot one?

Unfortunately there are already concentration/detention camps in US, and, the worst thing is that,I do think they are going to have there like those, it appears to be good business for the psychopaths in power _http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/magazine/the-shame-of-americas-family-detention-camps.html?_r=0

I hear yesterday at the news that Hungary was giving "free pass" (not stopping them) immigrants for their travel to Germany and Austria. Today however, Hungary -I assume- have to make some restrictions/measures upon certain superior order, they had stopped all trains in order to prevent immigrants to continue their travel.
http://www.rt.com/on-air/trains-stopped-hungary-border/

 

[casper]

I hear yesterday at the news that Hungary was giving "free pass" (not stopping them) immigrants for their travel to Germany and Austria. Today however, Hungary -I assume- have to make some restrictions/measures upon certain superior order, they had stopped all trains in order to prevent immigrants to continue their travel.
http://www.rt.com/on-air/trains-stopped-hungary-border/

also on this, link:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/refugees-barred-entering-train-station-hungary-150901091613124.html

 

[Persej]

I hear yesterday at the news that Hungary was giving "free pass" (not stopping them) immigrants for their travel to Germany and Austria. Today however, Hungary -I assume- have to make some restrictions/measures upon certain superior order, they had stopped all trains in order to prevent immigrants to continue their travel.

Yeah, it seems that Germany is the problem here.

In the meantime, the possibility that Hungary will now pack the migrants on trains for Germany as tidy passengers, and not as registered refugees, caused an outcry in Berlin.

"People who come to Hungary must register and apply for asylum there. No special trains for Germany, "said Steffen Zibert yesterday, a spokesman for Chancellor Merkel. Official Budapest demanded that Berlin explain its position, since all the passengers on the train to Munich entered with regular documents and tickets at a price of 120 euros.

_http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Evropa-nemocna-pred-bujicom-migranata.sr.html

And if the immigrants register for asylum in Hungary they will not have the right to go and live in Germany and this is why they don't want to register there.

 

[Persej]

Yep, the Hungary now has the big problem with migrants. It is said that German, Austrian and Hungarian police are patrolling in this train that goes from Budapest (Hungary) via Vienna (Austria) to Munich (Germany), and Slovakian and Hungarian police are patrolling the trains that go through Slovakia.

And they cannot travel with bus or a car because that is illegal. So they are gonna either find somebody to transport the illegally, or continue on foot. Or buy a bicycle.

Stranded refugees continue to gather outside Keleti train station in Budapest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=6871&v=KBJjmyyxWi0

 

[Dirgni]

Yeah, we already have difficulties with refugees in Munich. Yesterday came 2100 by train I heard. They were welcomed friendly by local helpers and necessities.

_http://www.dw.com/en/munich-sees-massive-impromptu-help-for-refugees/a-18688838

_http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germans-welcome-migrants-refugees-donations-food-clothing-toys-photos-1518028

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-police-forced-to-ask-public-to-stop-bringing-donations-for-refugees-arriving-by-train-10481522.html

This is not the first time when there were quite a lot refugees in Munich / Germany. In 1989 / 1990 there were quite a lot of Germans from GDR coming here. At the end of WW 2 and some time afterwards there were huge numbers of refugees from the east coming to the west. They added to the bombed out and stateless persons. Germany back then had rules that each everyone has to take in unhoused persons. Many families back then lived in one room together with other families in the same flat / house. Back then the newcomer were included for good relatively peaceful.

 

[mabar]

And they cannot travel with bus or a car because that is illegal. So they are gonna either find somebody to transport the illegally, or continue on foot. Or buy a bicycle.

So then, I think that, unfortunately, we are going to keep seeing news like this: http://www.sott.net/article/300723-Chickens-come-home-to-roost-50-dead-NATO-war-migrants-found-decomposing-in-back-of-Austrian-truck from last week, or this from today, Police Rescue 24 Suffocating Refugees From Van in Vienna _http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150902/1026495601.html from today, because, there are people -as always and with everything- that take the opportunity to do business against the needs of other people _https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_smuggling.

At least they do not travel like in "The Beast" also called as "the Dead Train, although, is not much difference from the travels by boat, though, or being packed in a vehicle. Those people (immigrants) should be received with honors after making such a trip, not being punished.
_http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/06/05/318905712/riding-the-beast-across-mexico-to-the-u-s-border&prev=search
_http://www.businessinsider.com.au/perilous-journey-central-american-immigrants-take-to-get-to-us-2015-1