Missing time

stellar

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I've been contemplating posting this question for a couple of weeks but kept putting it off while trying to find possible answers on my own. So here goes, because I have no possible answer.

On the evening of October 19th I went to bed in my upstairs room & while listening to a documentary fell asleep.I think it was probably before 10 o'clock. In the morning I woke up for work on the couch downstairs, a fair way from my bedroom and thought nothing of it. It is not unusual for me to come downstairs if my husband is snoring or if I'm not sleepy and have something to read or do downstairs.

That afternoon when my husband came home from work he at some point asked me how come I slept downstairs, thinking he was snoring again. I froze in my tracks and looked at him speechless. I didn't know what to answer.

I have never walked in my sleep. I am a light sleeper and if someone were to wake me in the middle of the night and ask a question, I would immediately and wakefully reply, remembering in the morning what had occurred. Not this day.

The flight of stairs leading to my room is steep and has a 90 degree turn so you have to hold on to the banister, especially going down. Secondly, I never go anywhere without my smokes and certainly would take them with me if I were changing rooms for a period of time. Thirdly, I recall no dream from that night and I always vividly dream, even if it is something short and meaningless during a nap.

To add to the weirdness, electronic and even battery operated gadgets and lights have been switching themselves on of their own accord. Children's musical toys have been playing tunes that are not even on the memory bank of that toy. And since last saturday I have had a headache the intermittently strikes me several times a day and then subsides. I saw a doctor who checked for ear infection and little else and called it tension headache. Prescribed some Brufen and come back in a week if it does not help.(???)

So I guess I just want to know why can't I remember what happened that night of the 19th October, if it's not too much trouble.
 
I was wondering if you could clarify something?

That afternoon when my husband came home from work he at some point asked me how come I slept downstairs, thinking he was snoring again. I froze in my tracks and looked at him speechless. I didn't know what to answer.

You said that it's not unusual for you to go downstairs if your husband is snoring.

You woke up downstairs on the couch.

So why did you freeze in your tracks and look at him speechless and not know what to answer if you already knew that you woke up on the couch and that he knows that you go downstairs when he snores? What was so surprising to you?
 
Hello Stellar:

for some reason, I think you or someone else has posted this same very questions on the forum somewhere.... :huh:
 
stellar said:
To add to the weirdness, electronic and even battery operated gadgets and lights have been switching themselves on of their own accord. Children's musical toys have been playing tunes that are not even on the memory bank of that toy. And since last saturday I have had a headache the intermittently strikes me several times a day and then subsides. I saw a doctor who checked for ear infection and little else and called it tension headache. Prescribed some Brufen and come back in a week if it does not help.(???)

So I guess I just want to know why can't I remember what happened that night of the 19th October, if it's not too much trouble.

By your description, you think that something paranormal happened? Maybe it could be, if it was only the "waking up on the couch" event. But then you also describe other things, like changed music on your children's toys, that goes way beyond any "regular" paranormal or abduction event. :shock: Coupled with other things you describe, and if I were you, I would first exclude all the mundane explanations, such as health, memory and dissociation related possibilities.
 
Keit said:
By your description, you think that something paranormal happened? Maybe it could be, if it was only the "waking up on the couch" event. But then you also describe other things, like changed music on your children's toys, that goes way beyond any "regular" paranormal or abduction event. :shock: Coupled with other things you describe, and if I were you, I would first exclude all the mundane explanations, such as health, memory and dissociation related possibilities.

What you describe does sound strange, especially the changed music on the children's toys and the lights and gadgets going on and off by themselves. It sure must be confusing and even scary. Yet I agree with Keit. Are there any explanations you haven't considered yet? Have you been under any sort of stress lately? How's your diet been? How has your sleep been? Your mental/emotional hygiene? How long since you've last done EE? Are you the only one who experienced the weird things about the toys, lights and gadgets, or has someone else witnessed them? Is there anything else along those lines that comes to mind that could possibly play a role?
 
Keit said:
[...]and if I were you, I would first exclude all the mundane explanations, such as health, memory and dissociation related possibilities.

I agree. For example, at one occasion I was also very certain that I did not wake up at night and went somehere and it was only several days later, after I've been so certain for the first days, that I started to remember that I actually woke up that night and went there. If we are waking up at night shortly in a semi conscious state and fall back at sleep quickly, it can happen that we do not remember it the next day. After I realized that I actually was awake and went there, I was quite shocked how our conscious mind can be so certain about things, while in reality something else happened that only the unconscious mind remembered. That was quite a powerful realization and told me that we really are not as good as we think in remembering stuff correctly.

Doesn't mean though that it was something like this, just that you probably should first try to exclude all other mundane possibilities, as Keit suggested. The other stuff you mentioned sounds interesting though and could indeed point to something "paranormal". Did that happen directly after that night or is it something that happens more often recently?

Even if it something paranormal, I think it could also be a message to you that something is up in your life that you need to handle. Is there something in your life right now that stresses you or is there something that needs to be addressed by you?
 
Hi stellar

If you consider the possibility of hyper-dimensional stalking know that is important to stay grounded. All those weird events could be engineered to upset you and affect your mental health.

And when our mental health goes down our psychic health/protection also get's affected negatively.

Which could open us up to entity/alien intrusion.


So like others already mentioned, how is your diet etc, emotional situation etc? It's very important to keep that in check.
 
Pashalis said:
Keit said:
[...]and if I were you, I would first exclude all the mundane explanations, such as health, memory and dissociation related possibilities.

I agree. For example, at one occasion I was also very certain that I did not wake up at night and went somehere and it was only several days later, after I've been so certain for the first days, that I started to remember that I actually woke up that night and went there. If we are waking up at night shortly in a semi conscious state and fall back at sleep quickly, it can happen that we do not remember it the next day.
I would tend to think that there could be a normal explanation for waking up on the sofa. I'm normally a light sleeper yet there have been times where I can wake up having taken off button pijamas without remembering so it is possible that you don't recall moving.

The other events you mentioned however, are very strange.
Pashalis said:
Even if it something paranormal, I think it could also be a message to you that something is up in your life that you need to handle. Is there something in your life right now that stresses you or is there something that needs to be addressed by you?
I think that these are important questions to focus on instead of the paranormal aspect. Could there be chaotic energies at home right now that may be manifesting in these disturbances? The headaches could be stress/diet related; it's worth investigating IMO.
 
Nienna said:
I was wondering if you could clarify something?

That afternoon when my husband came home from work he at some point asked me how come I slept downstairs, thinking he was snoring again. I froze in my tracks and looked at him speechless. I didn't know what to answer.

You said that it's not unusual for you to go downstairs if your husband is snoring.

You woke up downstairs on the couch.

So why did you freeze in your tracks and look at him speechless and not know what to answer if you already knew that you woke up on the couch and that he knows that you go downstairs when he snores? What was so surprising to you?
I did not know WHY I was downstairs because I don't remember coming down, without my cigs, and I only remember getting sleepy the night before while I was still in bed. He was already asleep - not snoring at the time. I was shocked because this is something I would consciously remember and have an answer for. Also, I don't know why I didn't realise it in the morning and recall as I normally do. It's not normal for me to forget this, I was just hurrying to get ready for work.
 
Nienna said:
I was wondering if you could clarify something?

That afternoon when my husband came home from work he at some point asked me how come I slept downstairs, thinking he was snoring again. I froze in my tracks and looked at him speechless. I didn't know what to answer.

You said that it's not unusual for you to go downstairs if your husband is snoring.

You woke up downstairs on the couch.

So why did you freeze in your tracks and look at him speechless and not know what to answer if you already knew that you woke up on the couch and that he knows that you go downstairs when he snores? What was so surprising to you?

I think, if I understood correctly. She froze because that's when she realized that she didn't remember walking downstairs because he woke her up from snoring?

Other than that. I agree with what other have said, be it what it may, a cold objective approach is what I would suggest. Sometimes we're quite unaware of a million unconscious processes taking place all the time that when we stop and think about them seem impossible. Everynow and then I realize that I've barely noticed the road for the past few minutes yet, I haven't crashed while driving. Also, being overtly stressed or tired or immersed (like in the documentary) could cause gaps in memory, specially that late at night when our minds are not fully awake.

Regarding the faulty gadgets, the weirdest one would be the toy. Perhaps you weren't aware that these extra songs were there? Or perhaps there's a way for new songs to be added? Other than that I'm at a loss. The lights and things that are plugged to the wall, I can think of faulty wiring somewhere in the house, which high strangeness or not, it might be worth your while checking just in case.

My two cents
 
stellar said:
Nienna said:
I was wondering if you could clarify something?

That afternoon when my husband came home from work he at some point asked me how come I slept downstairs, thinking he was snoring again. I froze in my tracks and looked at him speechless. I didn't know what to answer.

You said that it's not unusual for you to go downstairs if your husband is snoring.

You woke up downstairs on the couch.

So why did you freeze in your tracks and look at him speechless and not know what to answer if you already knew that you woke up on the couch and that he knows that you go downstairs when he snores? What was so surprising to you?
I did not know WHY I was downstairs because I don't remember coming down, without my cigs, and I only remember getting sleepy the night before while I was still in bed. He was already asleep - not snoring at the time. I was shocked because this is something I would consciously remember and have an answer for. Also, I don't know why I didn't realise it in the morning and recall as I normally do. It's not normal for me to forget this, I was just hurrying to get ready for work.

Oh your post beat me by a few minutes.
 
Aiming said:
What you describe does sound strange, especially the changed music on the children's toys and the lights and gadgets going on and off by themselves. It sure must be confusing and even scary. Yet I agree with Keit. Are there any explanations you haven't considered yet? Have you been under any sort of stress lately? How's your diet been? How has your sleep been? Your mental/emotional hygiene? How long since you've last done EE? Are you the only one who experienced the weird things about the toys, lights and gadgets, or has someone else witnessed them? Is there anything else along those lines that comes to mind that could possibly play a role?

Hi stellar, great advice was given to you. IMO you should check al least all and every item in Aiming post. Also I think that a simple question to answer would be if has someone else witnessed that weird events. I noticed that you do not answer yet what many members were asking. Maybe, and this is just an hypothesis, you are a little excited for the possibility of something weird happening in your life? I think that maybe it is the case because you seem to be ignoring some of the possibles earthly explanation that some members proposes here. I think that many times we can wait for this kind of exciting experiences because we feel that it is meaningful or indicative that we are on something trascendent and that if we caught the attention of hyperdimensionals frightening and evil beings we are on the right path. Maybe I'm running too fast here, but please, you think in that just as an hypothesis. Whether I am wrong or not, I think that you should check for earthly explanation first and to exprore your mental/emotional hygiene, IMO it will be helpful for you.
 
Alejo said:
The lights and things that are plugged to the wall, I can think of faulty wiring somewhere in the house, which high strangeness or not, it might be worth your while checking just in case.

Agree, I think it may be a really good idea to check the wiring in the house. At my parents house several weeks ago while watching a show on TV, the lights would suddenly dim at the same time a beep could be heard coming from the fridge. I don't remember how often it'd happen. I went over there the next day and the fridge was pulled out from the wall. Apparently it had to do with faulty wiring, something that could have led to a fire due to over heating. A dangerous situation and luckily my mother got to it when she did the next morning.

Besides the more obvious, I think my emotional state was also something that could've clued me in that night. I ended up leaving the room suddenly at one point in the TV show after there was a really violent scene..left me feeling pretty triggered. I don't watch that show anymore.

Anyway, I also agree with looking at all the other items on Aiming's list as well for clues to what might be going on.
 
Keit said:
stellar said:
To add to the weirdness, electronic and even battery operated gadgets and lights have been switching themselves on of their own accord. Children's musical toys have been playing tunes that are not even on the memory bank of that toy. And since last saturday I have had a headache the intermittently strikes me several times a day and then subsides. I saw a doctor who checked for ear infection and little else and called it tension headache. Prescribed some Brufen and come back in a week if it does not help.(???)

So I guess I just want to know why can't I remember what happened that night of the 19th October, if it's not too much trouble.

By your description, you think that something paranormal happened? Maybe it could be, if it was only the "waking up on the couch" event. But then you also describe other things, like changed music on your children's toys, that goes way beyond any "regular" paranormal or abduction event. :shock: Coupled with other things you describe, and if I were you, I would first exclude all the mundane explanations, such as health, memory and dissociation related possibilities.
I just know that all the other things are certainly strange but I don't dwell on them. If they are meant to be signs I am not clear on what they could be saying so I'm not even going to speculate.

I am taking reasonable care with my health in terms of diet although I have not taken supplements in months and EE has just been on the back burner, I have been so busy.

My eldest son and his young family are living with me for about a year since June while they are saving money and building a house. They take care of their own groceries and help out with extra utility costs quarterly. Love them to pieces, it's just that I now have a full house and not as much quiet and me time. That's ok, it's only for a while and for a good cause. They are loving and respectful. The children are 10 months and 2 1/2 years so they can be a handful but that's ok too.

Last christmas I lodged a claim for work injury and that has been and endless nightmare in dealing with the insurance people but I have a good atty so I'm handling it ok. Subsequently I had surgery on my hand in May and it has been steady and slow recovery but not complete yet. My back injury they are disputing and ignoring so therein lie the dramas. There is no surgery that can help so I will most likely resort to Keto diet again as opposed to my current paleo to deal with pain and inflammation like I did several years ago. I just won't be able to perform heavy physical and repetitive work.

I have many appointments to attend and details and events to remember and recall almost on a weekly basis. My 78 year old mother is battling with mildish dementia so she needs frequent visits from me. No-one else in the family will have a bar of her so I am all she has.

There is not a lot of time for dissociation as I am almost constantly on some task or other and have to stay on the ball. So that is why I find it so alarming and disturbing that I cannot recall how that one particular incident happened.

As for sleep, I could use more than six hours (at best) but then I would need a 26 hour day so I have to make do for now. Hopefully by xmas the court case will be finished and I can go away for a couple of days BY MYSELF just to breathe in peace and silence. :rolleyes:
 
msante said:
Aiming said:
What you describe does sound strange, especially the changed music on the children's toys and the lights and gadgets going on and off by themselves. It sure must be confusing and even scary. Yet I agree with Keit. Are there any explanations you haven't considered yet? Have you been under any sort of stress lately? How's your diet been? How has your sleep been? Your mental/emotional hygiene? How long since you've last done EE? Are you the only one who experienced the weird things about the toys, lights and gadgets, or has someone else witnessed them? Is there anything else along those lines that comes to mind that could possibly play a role?

Hi stellar, great advice was given to you. IMO you should check al least all and every item in Aiming post. Also I think that a simple question to answer would be if has someone else witnessed that weird events. I noticed that you do not answer yet what many members were asking. Maybe, and this is just an hypothesis, you are a little excited for the possibility of something weird happening in your life? I think that maybe it is the case because you seem to be ignoring some of the possibles earthly explanation that some members proposes here. I think that many times we can wait for this kind of exciting experiences because we feel that it is meaningful or indicative that we are on something trascendent and that if we caught the attention of hyperdimensionals frightening and evil beings we are on the right path. Maybe I'm running too fast here, but please, you think in that just as an hypothesis. Whether I am wrong or not, I think that you should check for earthly explanation first and to exprore your mental/emotional hygiene, IMO it will be helpful for you.
Thank you. Yes, good advice has been given and most of it resonates with what has already crossed my mind. And yes, other family members have witnessed these same events and like I said, without further clues it is not worth dwelling on.

The reason I do not answer promptly is probably because of considerable time zone difference from Australia and wherever the posts are coming from. Secondly, I often only have less than half an hour time to spend on the forum and some of it is reading other posts, trying to keep up on something at least.

As for your hypothesis, no, I find none of this exiting or special or wanted. It concerns me to not remember something important when my daily functioning and work depends on my memory and attention to detail. A lot of people rely on me and I am tired but not enough to drop the ball just yet.
 

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