My Work reveals: sexual addiction, memories of past lives, ESP, strang love bond

Lidia V.

The Force is Strong With This One
Hi,
I started to write this post couple of days ago and edited it many times, since I had some doubts and too many questions. It is strange but they were being dispersed during reading answers in the forum and wave series. I was finding answers and the elements of my personal puzzle gradually started to compose in right order.

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Maybe there is something in this story I do not see here. What associations do you have reading all of this? I feel like I found my emotional hangman/torturer from past beings and try to teach him something, but he is deaf to my calling and I can do nothing, this is his will and I shouldn't interfere. But I could not understand why I felt this energy....
 
As you will notice, Lidia, I do not think your post is appropriate to the work of this forum. If you wish to muddle around with sex and sex magic, take it elsewhere.

Frankly, after reading over your previous posts, it strikes me that you are here to "fish" for a susceptible target/victim. On the other hand, if what you have written about is really a serious problem, I advise you to stop doing Beatha and seek out the help of a qualified professional therapist.
 
Why do I not see my story posted couple of minutews ago and see this message?
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What was wrong with this story???
Could you please answer? It was very important for me...
 
Laura said:
As you will notice, Lidia, I do not think your post is appropriate to the work of this forum. If you wish to muddle around with sex and sex magic, take it elsewhere.

Frankly, after reading over your previous posts, it strikes me that you are here to "fish" for a susceptible target/victim. On the other hand, if what you have written about is really a serious problem, I advise you to stop doing Beatha and seek out the help of a qualified professional therapist.

Laura,
thank you for the reply. I have a small presumption that you did not carefully read my previous post. I did not mention that I still want to muddle around with sex and sex magic. Actually, yesterday I came to the consclusion that I need balanced work and not to focus on sex as I did before. I want to solve my personal puzzle and hope for any advise here. I was not aware that my story may be so dangerous. Do you really think that I am looking here for a victim? What for? I have no idea why I should do it. I spent so much time reading your Work and I support you and your efforts truly. I do not know what more I can write. ..
I was at the psychic therapy for 2 years, it revealed that I have problems with supressing negative emotions and I don't have serious psychic disorder....
 
I read ALL your previous posts. I'm not sure what kind of cultural milieu you live in, but a post discussing such intimate topics is simply not appropriate on a public forum. You spend a lot of energy wanting to know all about ME, ME, ME, and very little taking consideration of how uncomfortable you might be making others. Again, perhaps this is a cultural difference, and if so, so be it.
 
If the post --which I haven't seen-- isn't suited for the public forum maybe it can be discussed in the Swamp if there's any need for substantial feedback? Just a thought...
 
Laura said:
I read ALL your previous posts. I'm not sure what kind of cultural milieu you live in, but a post discussing such intimate topics is simply not appropriate on a public forum. You spend a lot of energy wanting to know all about ME, ME, ME, and very little taking consideration of how uncomfortable you might be making others. Again, perhaps this is a cultural difference, and if so, so be it.

Laura,
I know that I am a bit naive person and sometimes too sincere, I am really sorry for that. I really thought that talking about sex and orgasm is OK, between friends or even easier here, between people I do not know personally. We are all adult people and I had no idea that it may be inappropriate or uncomfortable for somebody here to read that.
And as we learn from each other - maybe my story is also some kind of a clue for anybody.
I know that I overuse pronoun "I" but do not know the English syntax so well so I could avoid it.
To let you know - I know how to block this energy mentioned in my first post. I can do it because I am stronger than this. The more I learnt here, the better I understood the addictive process which took place in me.
While I was posting my story I thought that maybe somebody will propose me the way to verify what kind of energy is this. This conversation with you is convincing me that there is no point in digging who or what is this.
Anyway - thanks for kicking me in the ass. I fully understand your cautious approach.


Palinurus,

I will try to rewrite it, trying to be more objective and not so personal.
 
FWIW

I read all of Lidia V's posts as well. I also saw a very self centered approach with hints of a predatory nature. Whether this predation is conscious or not, I think before focusing and discussing so heavily on the sexual/physical center/tendencies of ones Being, that said person might actually have read some of the recommend psychology books and threads. It doesn't seem to me that Lidia has done so, although I could be wrong. I also think having a basic understanding of The 4th Way Work would be beneficial. I would think that if Lidia had a simple grasp of The Work (how it's approached and done on the Forum), that this "heavy" topic wouldn't have been brought up so early OR even in the first place.

Lidia, if you haven't, check out the recommended psychology books and cognitive sciences threads. "Unholy Hungers" by Barbara Holt, and "Strangers To Ourselves" by Timothy Wilson, might be of benefit to you.
 
BrightLight11 said:
FWIW

I read all of Lidia V's posts as well. I also saw a very self centered approach with hints of a predatory nature. Whether this predation is conscious or not, I think before focusing and discussing so heavily on the sexual/physical center/tendencies of ones Being, that said person might actually have read some of the recommend psychology books and threads. It doesn't seem to me that Lidia has done so, although I could be wrong. I also think having a basic understanding of The 4th Way Work would be beneficial. I would think that if Lidia had a simple grasp of The Work (how it's approached and done on the Forum), that this "heavy" topic wouldn't have been brought up so early OR even in the first place.

Lidia, if you haven't, check out the recommended psychology books and cognitive sciences threads. "Unholy Hungers" by Barbara Holt, and "Strangers To Ourselves" by Timothy Wilson, might be of benefit to you.


Lidia is telling you that she was looking many times for some information about sex here using "Search button" but she was not satisfied with the info she found. That's why she described here her story - to learn more about this crucial energy which is the source of food for our "Lizzie" friends. She just learnt from Laura that there is no need to have "love" with invisible lovers and get acquintance with them.
Lidia is thanking you for the recommended books. She hopes she will find time, there is so much recommended bookings.

Thank you all ;)
 
Lidia V. said:
Lidia is telling you that she was looking many times for some information about sex here using "Search button" but she was not satisfied with the info she found. That's why she described here her story - to learn more about this crucial energy which is the source of food for our "Lizzie" friends. She just learnt from Laura that there is no need to have "love" with invisible lovers and get acquintance with them.
Lidia is thanking you for the recommended books. She hopes she will find time, there is so much recommended bookings.

Lidia V. said:
Laura,
/snip/ We are all adult people [...]

Really?

Being adult means something completely else than being able and willing to talk about sex in all its real and imaginary variations. It's not a matter of one's age either. Your latest post has not been written by an adult. Your story doesn't show that there is any adult behind the wheel in your life. Instead, it looks like you just follow blind your wild emotions and imagination wherever they take you, with no consideration to how hurtful it can be to (real) you, your husband, your child, and anyone who would be swept on the way and taken for your roller coaster ride with you.
 
I agree that, your post Lidia, was really inappropriate and disturbing.

So, basically...

You are married, you have a child, and at some point you decide to dedicate your time talking to a 'teacher' of some weird guy you met some years ago. This weird guy being someone who is a 'drug and alcohol addicted person and a great manipulator'. Who would want to even contact his supposed 'teacher'? That is what you did, after having a 'couple of vivid dreams with him'. And because you 'wanted to share my painful memories with somebody.'

And then you get yourself involved in practices like that? In another post, you write "sexual overcharge, which came to the surface ater my practising of EE (1,5 year) and a diet (about 6 months) Maybe it just needs time." Kind of saying that EE and diet had caused this 'sexual overcharge', but as far as I can see, this ''overcharge'' was the result of your choices to go back to the kind of people who practice the kind of things you mentioned (never mind being worried about potential dangers you could put your family in by being in contact with a 'teacher' like that). And with regards to your EE practice, I think you missed the C's important point that EE practice should go hand in hand with gaining knowledge. Which you have done little of, if at all, as it seems.

Also, in your response to Laura, you wrote "I did not mention that I still want to muddle around with sex and sex magic." yet in an earlier post today you say: "I asked this question because I heard about practising some kind of sexual Qigong exercises and something called Right hand tantra sex and wondered if it makes sense to deal deeper with this energy."

I dunno, but you seem like the kind of person who makes decisions based on feelings, dreams etc. without any critical thinking and networking. In the end, I also think that you are in need of some professional therapy. You say you've had some, but I'm not sure what you mean with ''psychic'' therapy.
 
Regarding this:

[quote author=Possibility of Being]
Being adult means something completely else than being able and willing to talk about sex in all its real and imaginary variations. It's not a matter of one's age either. Your latest post has not been written by an adult. Your story doesn't show that there is any adult behind the wheel in your life. Instead, it looks like you just follow blind your wild emotions and imagination wherever they take you, with no consideration to how hurtful it can be to (real) you, your husband, your child, and anyone who would be swept on the way and taken for your roller coaster ride with you.
[/quote]


First of all - I didn't want to prove here that there is a mature person behind my wheel. I just wanted to hear objective opinions about my strange experience because something like this never happened to me before and I knew that there was something wrong with that. I agree that I followed my emotions and imagination. You have no idea how hurtful it could be to my husband because you do not know him completely. The truth is - I talked to him a lot about it and he never felt hurt, actually he often smiled with tolerance observing my "imaginary romance" and was convinced that finally I will solve my problem. You also do not know how I behave towards my child and how much time I spent with him, so please stop judging me because you jump to conclusions on very limited premises.
We all do different things and learn from them. During the whole story I knew that I may feel or think whatever but ultimately - I will not leave my husband and my child. Anyway, you write like a person who never made any mistake...


Oxajil

You wrote:

[quote author=Oxajil]
"You are married, you have a child, and at some point you decide to dedicate your time talking to a 'teacher' of some weird guy you met some years ago. This weird guy being someone who is a 'drug and alcohol addicted person and a great manipulator'. Who would want to even contact his supposed 'teacher'? That is what you did, after having a 'couple of vivid dreams with him'. And because you 'wanted to share my painful memories with somebody.'
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His teacher is not drug and alcohol addicted.

[quote author=Oxajil]
"Who would want to contact his teacher? "
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I think you are trying to suggest that only a ...stupid person? Ok, I may be a little stupid, just like whole humanity who was fooled by Lizards. I am learning how not to be a victim, please respect this.

[quote author=Oxajil]
And then you get yourself involved in practices like that? In another post, you write "sexual overcharge, which came to the surface ater my practising of EE (1,5 year) and a diet (about 6 months) Maybe it just needs time." Kind of saying that EE and diet had caused this 'sexual overcharge', but as far as I can see, this ''overcharge'' was the result of your choices to go back to the kind of people who practice the kind of things you mentioned (never mind being worried about potential dangers you could put your family in by being in contact with a 'teacher' like that).
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Misunderstanding here.
I did not mention anywhere that I got myself involved in any practise. I didn't do any tantra exercises or sexual exercises. I did not mention that "sexual overcharge" was caused by EE, but that it caused that my problem came to the surface, and that is sexual addiction. You do not know my conclusions and how I understood the nature of my addiction.
Please read carefully....

[quote author=Oxajil]
"And with regards to your EE practice, I think you missed the C's important point that EE practice should go hand in hand with gaining knowledge. Which you have done little of, if at all, as it seems."
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You don't understand me. Before I started the whole story with this energy, I knew that I have to get to know what is the root of my problem and this experience will help me a lot, altough it is risky. I knew at the very beginning that I would win. And I won :) I understood the nature of sexual addiction.

[quote author=Oxajil]
"Also, in your response to Laura, you wrote "I did not mention that I still want to muddle around with sex and sex magic." yet in an earlier post today you say: "I asked this question because I heard about practising some kind of sexual Qigong exercises and something called Right hand tantra sex and wondered if it makes sense to deal deeper with this energy."
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":
Does it seem that you don't see the difference between "want" and "wonder" ?
"Want" means "to intend, to plan" and "wonder" means "to think over, consider" Oh dear, I was just CONSIDERING


[quote author=Oxajil]
"I dunno, but you seem like the kind of person who makes decisions based on feelings, dreams etc. without any critical thinking and networking. In the end, I also think that you are in need of some professional therapy. You say you've had some, but I'm not sure what you mean with ''psychic'' therapy."
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"Psychic therapy" means every week meetings with a professional psychologist.
I did not try to network earlier because I felt that I have nothing important to share. After sharing - I see that my writing is mostly judged here and only Laura who simply kicked me in the ass and somebody who proposed me 2 books to read are reasonable people.

From the other hand - I appreciate that you care about my mental health ;) Don't worry, I am a tough woman....ups! Sorry - a girl ;)
I will try to put in order my conclusions and present them here, writing as objective as I can.

Edit: Added quotes for ease of reading
 
I would like to correct the last paragraph and add something as I hit "post" button to early.



I did not try to network earlier because I felt that I have nothing important to share. After sharing - I see that my writing in this topic is mostly judged emotionally and only Laura who simply kicked me in the ass and somebody who proposed me 2 books to read, gave me some reasonable advice.

From the other hand - I appreciate that you care about my mental health ;) Don't worry, I am a tough woman....ups! Sorry - a girl ;)
I will try to put in order my conclusions and present them here, writing as objective as I can.
 
Lidia, you have had a bit of a shock which is natural. For a better idea of what is actually going on in your brain right now, you might want to read Timothy Wilson's book "Strangers to Ourselves." There are also articles posted in the psychology/cognitive science section that will explain that it is only through the eyes of others that we can get the truth about ourselves. In other words, what has been given to you here is priceless information that you would otherwise be unable to find on your own by "searching within".

What you are doing right now is simply creating narratives to "explain away" and/or to justify yourself. Nobody was "judging" you, they were simply giving you feedback which is what we do on this forum. Most forum members familiar with The Work are pretty good at "reading" what is really going on inside a person based on what they write about and how they write it. You need to take what has been given very seriously if you ever expect to actually "do The Work." Otherwise, if you can't stand the heat...
 
Lidia V. said:
First of all - I didn't want to prove here that there is a mature person behind my wheel.

There was nothing about your proving anything there. It was about letting you know how you come across based on what you have posted so far. So, it's quite possible that you didn't try to prove anything like that. You just explicitly let us know you consider yourself an adult. Didn't you say, we're ALL adult here?

I just wanted to hear objective opinions about my strange experience because something like this never happened to me before and I knew that there was something wrong with that.

Here, you are trying to separate your experience from who you are. It seems clear from the data you've provided so far that your experience was a plain outcome of who you are and what you had been pursuing, consciously or not. It wasn't something that 'just happened' to you. There was a long series of your own choices that led to that "experience". Thus, talking about the experience alone without taking into account the whole context would be useless and futile. Hope you can see it.

I agree that I followed my emotions and imagination. You have no idea how hurtful it could be to my husband because you do not know him completely. The truth is - I talked to him a lot about it and he never felt hurt, actually he often smiled with tolerance observing my "imaginary romance" and was convinced that finally I will solve my problem.

The feedback you get depends on the data you provide. And the data you provide is what you say and, to some extent, how you say it. Yes, I don't know your husband, but from the little you have told us about him, I could assume he is more or less a normal human being. And a normal human being would feel hurt - some more, some other less, some would be aware of it, some other would suppress the feeling, but it does hurt -- when his/her spouse gets involved in an on-line close relationship with a third person and then in some kind of an 'imaginary romance' with a being who supposedly is a projection or incarnation of that third person. Unless they perceive and treat their partner as a three year old child. Perhaps that's what's going on in your family.

You also do not know how I behave towards my child and how much time I spent with him, so please stop judging me because you jump to conclusions on very limited premises.

There was no judgment on my part. By seeing it this way, you prevent yourself from learning from the feedback you receive. Feedback that is given to you based on the data you have provided. There is no need to get defensive, Lidia. No one is attacking you. All we're trying to do is to let you know what we can see, again, based on the data provided by you.

Concerning your son, I hope you are aware that it's not only the amount of time a mother spends with her child that counts. Children absorb a lot. They pick up on emotions, body language, mental states, everything. Are you trying to say that you can completely separate the part of you that follows her emotions and imagination, has some kind of relationship with a pretty much doubtful person and has an imaginary 'lover' from the other part of you that is a mother when you spend your time with your son?

Anyway, you write like a person who never made any mistake...

I'm not the subject here, Lidia. That's one thing. The other is, that only those who made mistakes themselves and learned from them can see when others go in the same trap, exhibit the same or similar traits, make similar mistakes and can't see what others can. We all have blind spots and if you want to learn and grow up, you need to take the feedback you get 'to your heart' instead of trying to turn the mirror toward those who are trying to help you.

The way you think has taken you where you find yourself now, i.e. asking for help in understanding what's wrong with the situation you're in and how to get out of it. And yet, you still think that the same way of thinking is good enough to argue and insist that it's others who don't understand you and are wrong.
 

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