Narendra Modi: 'Hero of the Masses' or 'Villain', as liberal English media have portrayed him for 17 years?

This one seems to have developed fast for sure. I am not a huge fan of Modi though he has done some good things, but also the whole idea of Khalistan is just plain BS. I have seen some activity here in AU too by these separatists and its not looking like its heading in the right direction. At a high level, this appears to be a pressure tactic given the success BRICS+ is achieving and one of those desperate moves by the western PTB to destabilize India from within. I think Modi now has built up enough control over the political landscape in India to address this nuisance fast and for good. And, it would be interesting to see Canada's reaction or counter-moves to this whole affair.

I certainly feel for the non-Sikhs (as well as Sikhs who don't buy into this), currently residing in Canada and this can take an ugly turn real fast. One wonders, why Canada has been encouraging mass migration from India, as if they foresaw this as a good opportunity to capitalise on the general divisiveness that exists between different states and castes in India. FWIW
 
Hmmm, Trudeau's plane full of cocaine, and he stayed in his room for 2 days. And he refused to stay in the hotel arranged by the Indian government, and booked his own hotel. Now, I wonder if that is true...🤔


 
Hmmm, Trudeau's plane full of cocaine, and he stayed in his room for 2 days. And he refused to stay in the hotel arranged by the Indian government, and booked his own hotel. Now, I wonder if that is true...🤔


Trudeau's tone has changed and he now wants good relations with India.
 
Jan 22nd 2024 is a big day in India and for Hindus around the world. Media, social media all is buzz with excitement with the opening the Rama Mandir at Ayodhya, a logical culmination of resolution of the Rama mandir- Ayodhya dispute in Nov. 2019 . It is a damn big event in a country where religion and politics gets mixed up so often. If one understands the following, all else falls into place.
Q: (Atriedes) Do you mind if your memory and image is used in a religion?

A: As long as it is with understanding of the truth. What is religion anyway but that which binds people together as is showed with my army.
In the rest of world, organized religion controlled kings and emperors, got discredited to force a change of state and church separation. In India, Hinduism doesn't have any organizing body. It does have common set of practices people followed as "Identity" branded by outsiders as Hinduism. It is this "identity" that united against the invaders including British. True, it does have, thousands of religious books, practices, rituals, religious pilgrimages, million gods , priests of whomever one want. Often people add whomever they want - buddha, Jesus and allab, fakirs, gurus and so on. Some points.
 
Sorry for the premature clicking.
Jan 22nd 2024 is a big day in India and for Hindus around the world. Media, social media all is buzz with excitement with the opening the Rama Mandir at Ayodhya, a logical culmination of resolution of the Rama mandir- Ayodhya dispute in Nov. 2019 . It is a damn big event in a country where religion and politics gets mixed up so often. If one understands the following, all else falls into place.

In the rest of world, organized religion controlled kings and emperors, got discredited to force a change of state and church separation. In India, Hinduism doesn't have any organizing body. It does have common set of practices people followed as "Identity" branded by outsiders as Hinduism. It is this "identity" that united against the invaders including British. True, it does have, thousands of religious books, practices, rituals, religious pilgrimages, million gods , priests of whomever one want. Often people add whomever they want - buddha, Jesus and allab, fakirs, gurus and so on. Some points.
As a buildup to the opening, an large airport is created and 10 billion dollars (in the decade) promised to create self sustaining religious tourist location, marketed as cultural pride and so on. some even called it Hindu Vatican.
Frenzied construction work provided the backdrop in the northern Indian city of Ayodhya - a vast centre to welcome pilgrims, arched sandstone gates, a broad corridor leading to a grand new $217m (£170m) temple for the Hindu deity. A multi-billion dollar makeover has seen swathes of the city bulldozed to turn it into what some Hindu nationalist leaders are calling a "Hindu Vatican".
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  • Modi asked public to avoid the day of opening (Jan 22nd 2024) , but asked to come day after that to eternity. This is to avoid the obvious congestion.
  • BJP invited Opposition leaders, who will not come and branded them as "Anti-Hindu" ;-). So all the opposition politicians struggling their own way to project as Hindu supporters as the parliamentary elections are around the corner.
  • But, BJP asked the chief architect in the destruction of the Babri Masjid, Modi's political Guru Lal Krishna Advani to NOT to come to the religious ceremony on Jan 22nd. It is this Lal Krishna Advani who put his life in line during late 80's mandal-masjid saga that set the upward direction for BJP. It is obvious that Modi doesn't want any light on his Guru as he may not control him.
Parliamentary elections in few months ( Mar-May 2024): So the optics will be catered towards it. Any way, Modi's BJP won some highly important state elections recently and expected to come back again with more strongly. Of course, It is not clear whether Modi will stand or not( as his party has 2 term limit), but it looks he will be standing for 3rd term by all signs.

As usual, the Motley crew opposition which Soros, Obamas are openly and actively supporting branded themselves as INDIA coalition (Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance). So Modi Govt. is talking of 'Bharat' as the name and giving raise to the rumours that they even change the name of the country to "Bharat". As per Indian constitution,
Article 1 of the Constitution states that “India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States.” It's crucial to emphasise that Article 1 of the Constitution recognises both 'India' and 'Bharat' as official names for the country.
 
As per C's Rama is a Atlantean priest of 50,000 years ago, but this inauguration of Ram temple has nothing to do with that. It is the modern day politics that made him the legend. Here is broad time line as I understand it as of now.

48,000 BCE: As per C's, 25-february-2023
(seek10) The C's mentioned that Hindu god Rama was a high priest influenced by the Confederation. What is his time period?

A: 50k years ago
2300 BCE: The impetus to write Ramayan might have come around this time as all of the major empires disappeared around 2300 BCE as in "Necessity is mother of invention". It is combination of real characters ( Rama), fictional characters (Ravana based on cosmic events) , cosmic background of stars of very ancient time. 27-aug-2022
(seek10) C's mentioned that the Hindu epics Ramayan and Mahabharat are representations of cosmic events. Are they the same event or different events?

A: Multiple events!

Q: (seek10) Is Mahabharat event happened at 1100BC end of bronze age event? If no, what is the event date? If yes, is it related to Victor clube's Enke disintegration event ( 1000 =/- 300 BC )?

A: Close enough. But the main event was the 12900 event.

Q: (seek10) What is the Ramayan's originating cosmic event date?

(L) Well, since they said multiple events, I'm not sure you can divide it up that way. So, next question:

(seek10) Is it the 2300 BC event hypothesised by M.M. Mendelkher?

A: Close enough.
600 BCE: Most of Ramayan story more less stabilized and it was clear that it is based on the very old story written "Valmiki". No body is sure,"Valmiki" is a group of people or a single person written in old Sanskrit. Traditionally it is considered
1528 or 1711 AD?- Destruction of "temple" and construction of Babri Masjid:
  • "Temple" : Based on architectural digs, there is some temple, Is it a Ram temple or some thing else?. At least there is no evidence that it is Ram temple.
  • When? - Based on the Masjid plate, it is built during first moghul Emperor Babur's time ( 1526-1530), but based on many texts written from Babar's time to early 1700's , there are many texts were written and they doesn't mention of destruction of temple and construction of Masjid.
Babri Masjid, the structure which was demolished on 6 December 1992 was not constructed atleast until 1717 CE. This is the official map of Rama Janmabhumi (Ayodhya) dated 1717 CE. It is now in City Palace Museum, Jaipur. This map clearly shows that Ram Temple existed atleast till 1717 CE, though islamist occupation happened earlier. The map belongs to Jai Singh II (or “Sawai Jai Singh”), a Rajput noble in the Mughal court who purchased land and established a Jaisinghpura in the area surrounding the mosque in 1717 (as he had also done in several other Hindu religious places). The documents of Jai Singh preserved in the Kapad-Dwar collection in the City Palace Museum of Jaipur, include this sketch map. It shows an open court yard and a built structure with three temple spires (sikharas) resembling later Babri Masjid with three domes.

The courtyard is labelled janmasthan and shows a Ram chabutra. The central bay of the built structure is labelled chhathi, which also denotes birthplace.

As hindus were prohibited from entering the main chhathi, they built a Chabutra in front yard and consecrated murti of Lord Rama. Sketch map also shows hindus perfoming pradakshinas around Rama Chabutra inside the site.

There are inscriptions on the Babri Masjid premises found in the 20th century state that the mosque was built in 935 AH (1528–29 CE) by Mir Baqi in accordance with the wishes of Babur. However, these inscriptions appear to be of a more recent vintage.
So, the proposed history that Babur ordered to build a masjid in 1528-19 CE is fake !

Baburnama (Chronicles of Babur) does not mention either the mosque or the destruction of a temple. Ramcharit Manas of Tulsidas (1574 CE) and Ain-i Akbari of Abu’l-Fazl ibn Mubarak (1598 CE) made no mention of a mosque either.

William Finch, the English traveller who visited Ayodhya around 1611 CE, wrote about the “ruins of the Ranichand [Ramachand] castle and houses” where Hindus believed the great God “took flesh upon him to see the tamasha of the world.” He found pandas (Brahmin priests) in the ruins of the fort, recording the names of pilgrims, but there was no mention of a mosque.

Thomas Herbert described in 1634 CE the “pretty old castle of Ranichand built by a Bannyan Pagod of that name” which he described as an antique monument that was “especially memorable“. He also recorded the fact of Brahmins recording the names of pilgrims.

European Jesuit missionary Joseph Tiefenthaler, who lived and worked in India for 38 years (1743–1785 CE) and wrote numerous works about India, visited Ayodhya in 1767 CE. Johann Bernoulli translated his work Descriptio Indiae (in Latin) into French, published in 1788 CE. According to this account, Aurangzeb (r. 1658–1707 CE) had demolished the Ramkot fortress, including the house that was considered as the birthplace of Rama by Hindus. A mosque with three domes was constructed in its place.
1857 or 1853 - Date on which Ramchabutara (small platform illegally placed) is placed in Babri Masjid complex: Here too, two versions exist.
In 1853 CE, a group of armed Hindu ascetics belonging to the Nirmohi Akhara occupied the site, and claimed ownership of the structure. Periodic violence erupted in the next two years, and the civil administration had to step in, refusing permission to build a temple or to use it as a place of worship.

In 1855 CE, after a Hindu-Muslim clash, a boundary wall was constructed to avoid further disputes. It divided the mosque premises into two courtyards; the Muslims offered prayers in the inner courtyard. The Hindus offered their prayers on a raised platform, known as “Ram Chabutara“, in the outer courtyard.
Lot of attempts were made to construct temple since then, it was squashed by the rulers ( Whether it is British rulers or Secular Nehru-Gandhi dynasty)

Dec 22nd 1949: This is the one of the most important date in this saga. The Day on which it showed up by "miracle" as per popular myth, if one wants to believe. As per the FIR ( first information report) filed on Dec 23rd 1949 in Faizabad court, it is planted by Naga Vairagi named Abhiram Das ( Vairagi means ascetic of Vishnu devotee). There is a whole set of political/legal/religious drama went in to it to keep the idol in the masjid for 75 years.

As per the authors of the book Ayodhya: The Dark Night — The Secret History of Ramas Appearance In Babri Masjid , it is a BIG CONSPIRACY hatched by the Hindu Mahasabha (originating predecessor of BJP) to project them selves as a champion of Hindu cause after their member (Nadhuram Godse) assassinated M.K. Gandhi and subsequent clampdown on them by Nehru Govt. and public attacks on them. They have done a fantastic job in laying out sequence of events of nuts and bolts.
  • There is a plaque in front of Babri Masjid/Ayodhya temple even to this day saying the sentry of Babri Masjid saw a stream of light on that night and baby Ram's idol appeared after that.
    • That is THE only way the sentry can avoid Jail and ruin. He can't say that his local administration bosses conspired with local ascetics to intrude and place baby ram idol there. It is "miracle" theme keep on coming whenever one is in trouble ( Judges/sentries/local administration etc.)
Here is a article on it, though it is highly flavored by Indian communist political ideology and spin.
6 December 1992- Demolition of the Masjid:

The story of last 100 years is more or less summarized well in this video.
Just like in Ramayan story where monkeys played crucial role, they play in this Mandir saga too.
Story of the iconic monkey image of Ram Mandir movement
It was October 30, 1990, a day India will never forget. An iconic photo from that historic day of the Ram Mandir movement has returned to our collective memory as the country prepares for the 'Pran Pratishtha' (consecration) ceremony of Lord Ram's idol at Ayodhya on January 22.

Around 28,000 personnel of the Uttar Pradesh Armed Constabulary were deployed in Ayodhya on October 30, 1990, to thwart the Ram Mandir 'Kar seva' organised by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP).
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The entire road to the Babri Masjid was barricaded, with a sea of armed khaki-clad men securing it.

"Amid the struggle between the karsevaks and the security personnel, a sadhu who knew how to drive a bus jumped onto the seat of a police bus that was used to detain some karsevaks," Swami Vigyananand, Joint General Secretary of the Vishva Hindu Parishad, tells IndiaToday.in.

Calling it a "watershed moment", Swami Vigyananand says, "The sadhu ploughed through the barricades and opened the road for hundreds of karsevaks."

"Karsevaks braved hundreds of security personnel and trooped towards the disputed Babri Masjid. Some of them managed to climb on the dome of the disputed structure and planted 'Bhagwa Dhwaj' (saffron flags)," says Swami Vigyananand.

The security personnel deputed there soon began lathi-charging and shooting at the karsevaks.

"Facing the offensive by the security personnel, the karsevaks were forced to retreat by the evening," says Swami Vigyananand.

Officials wanted the saffron flags removed from the domes but were faced with a unique situation.

"They found that a monkey had taken position on the middle dome of the mosque. The police personnel saw the monkey as an avatar of Lord Hanuman who had appeared to protect the flag. They were unwilling to disturb it," he says.

"The monkey kept sitting near the flag for hours. Late at night, after the monkey left the dome, three-four jawans climbed atop the dome and removed the flag," says Swami Vigyananand.

{My comment: It could be that Monkey got scared of the crowd and police with sticks went to the highest place visible and sat there, but people interpreted it is avatar of Lord Hanuman. It is same miracle theme repeating over and over in this entire saga, whenever one is in a fix }
he VHP functionary shared with IndiaToday.in the iconic image of the monkey atop the dome, which was carried by several Hindi newspapers on November 1, 1990.

Though official records say 20 people were killed in the police firing ordered by Mulayam Singh Yadav on October 30 and November 2, eyewitness accounts put the number at scores. An Ayodhya-based journalist who has documented the attack on karsevaks says that the volunteers were fired upon even from a helicopter.

There has been recurring imagery of the monkey (a symbol of Hanuman) in the entire Ram Mandir movement.

Another photo from India Today's archives takes the story further. This photo is from July 23, 1992, and clicked by Pramod Pushkarna.

'Kar sewa' for the Mandir was suspended after the brutal killings of the karsevaks and initiated in July 1992. Though karsevaks reached Ayodhya, the programme was postponed, says Swami Vigyananand.

The 1992 photo also shows a monkey sitting on the central dome of the Babri Masjid.

"I was intrigued that while security personnel and barricades prevented people from reaching the disputed spot, a monkey had reached the top of the dome," Pramod Pushkarna tells IndiaToday.in, when asked what made him take that photo.

Monkey on a Babri Masjid Dome.

Photojournalist Pramod Pushkarna, now 76, says he made several trips to Ayodhya during the Ram Mandir Movement days. He says people were calling the monkey “Hanuman ka avatar”.

“There were a lot of restrictions in Ayodhya then. We used to hide behind buildings or climb onto roofs to take photographs. That was the time Ayodhya Movement was on full steam,” says Pushkarna.

He also recalls the time when a group of journalists rescued and took a bleeding Ashok Singhal, then VHP Working President, to hospital. Singhal was badly injured in the police lathi charge on karsevaks.

MONKEY INSPIRED OPENING OF TEMPLE DOORS​

The reference to monkeys in the Ayodhya Mandir case can also be found in the autobiography of KM Pandey, who, as the Faizabad district judge on February 1, 1986, ordered that the doors of the Babri Masjid be opened for devotees to the ‘darshan’ of Ram Lalla idol.

In his autobiography ‘Voice of Conscience, published in the 1990s, Pandey mentions a “divine power” behind his judgment.

“On the date of the order when orders for opening locks were passed, a Black Monkey was sitting for the whole day on the roof of the court room in which the hearing was going on, holding the flag-post. Thousands of people of Faizabad and Ayodhya who were present to hear the final orders of the court had offered him groundnuts and various fruits. Strangely, the said Monkey did not touch any of the offerings and left the place when the final order was passed at 4.40 pm,” writes Pandey.

“The District Magistrate and SSP escorted me to my bungalow. The said monkey was present in the verandah of my bungalow. I was surprised to see him. I just saluted him, treating him to be some divine power,” he writes in ‘Voice of Conscience’.

KM Pandey’s order to unlock the doors of Babri Masjid was overturned by the High Court. It was to be part of a lengthy legal process that started with an FIR in 1858 after Nihang Sikhs barged into the disputed mosque and performed a ‘havan’.

MONKEYS AND SUPREME COURT VERDICT​

Senior advocate and former attorney general K Parasaran, who successfully argued the case for Ram Lalla Virajman, also talked about monkeys in a video in reference to the Ram Janmabhoomi case.

The five-judge bench of the Supreme Court delivered the landmark verdict, ordering the 2.77 acres of land to be handed over to a Ram Janmabhoomi trust for the construction of a Ram temple, on November 9, 2019.

K Parasaran said the verdict was delivered on a Saturday and on the subsequent Monday, 30–40 monkeys appeared from nowhere on the terrace of his residence in Delhi.

“I was out on the open terrace on the second floor, about 30 or 40 monkeys came. Can't imagine so many monkeys, and that too at 8.45 PM,” says Parasaran.

"And they were playing, jumping, kicking.... Lord Ram took care of it... 69 years he waited for it," says Parasaran.


Monkeys have been perceived by devotees throughout the Ram Mandir movement as a manifestation of the divine. The iconic October 1990 image of the monkey, splashed across newspapers, was one in that thread
 
Interesting article on how India handling the foreign policy situation while maintaining good relationship with USA and Russia. India's finance minister S Jayashankar is career bureaucrat (not a politician) which Modi tapped into became very popular in the social media while navigating the complicated situations.

S Jaishankar's retort to India buying Russian oil, Blinken breaks into a smile

Doubling down on the continued purchase of oil from Russia, External Affairs S Jaishankar said it shouldn't be a problem for others if India had "multiple options" and was "smart enough" to go with what works for it.

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar has firmly defended India's decision to buy Russian oil despite Western sanctions, stating it shouldn't be a concern for others.

During a panel discussion at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday, Jaishankar was asked about India's balancing act between its growing ties with the United States and continuing trade with Russia. In his typical no-nonsense style, he replied, “Is that a problem, why should that be a problem? If I am smart enough to have multiple options, you should be admiring me.”
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Jaishankar's retort elicited smiles from US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and German Foreign Affairs Minister Annalena Baerbock, who were also part of the panel. The Foreign Minister further stated that it is unrealistic to expect countries to maintain unidimensional relationships in today's interconnected world.
His comments come against the backdrop of the West’s disapproval of India's continued oil trade with Russia amidst the latter's conflict with Ukraine. Previously, Jaishankar sharply repudiated such criticism by pointing out the disparity in Europe's oil purchases from Russia compared to India's, arguing that India's monthly purchase of Russian oil is less than what Europe buys in an afternoon.

He had also stated that India prevented a surge in global oil prices with its purchase policies, which in turn prevented potential competition with Europe in the market.

Jaishankar stated that India had made its position on the Russia-Ukraine conflict amply clear by repeatedly advocating for dialogue, diplomacy, and an immediate cessation of violence.

He also acknowledged the differences between India's relationships with the US and Russia.

Different countries and different relationships have different histories... We are not purely unsentimentally transactional... I don't want you to even inadvertently give the impression that we are purely unsentimentally transactional. We are not, we get along with people But sometimes, there will be choices, you say I'll pass on that,” he said.

Pushing back against critics who seek to portray India as "anti-West", Jaishankar distinguished New Delhi as "non-West" but deeply engaged with Western countries.

It's important today to make a distinction, between being non-West and anti-West, I'd not only characterise India as a country, which is non-West but which has an extremely strong relation with the Western countries, getting better by the days,” he detailed.
West can't do much with India's stance.

India with its huge diversity (land of Large number of small groups) this type of stance is pretty common, while Northern hemisphere went into binary mode (Britain/West/America vs USSR/East/Russia ) for the last few centuries.
 
There are innumerable names thrown on Modi since he was air dropped into the chair of Gujarat Chief minister since 2001. At this time, he never "Hero of Hatred", "Mass Murderer", Aurangajab ( Mughlar ruler who was anti-Hindu) , dictator, "Divider in-chief", "Bigot". To add little comedy to the list, here is one tweet from Modi's right hand man and current Home minister Amit Shah in 2017.
Yamraj ( Hindu mythology "death of God") , Maut Ka Saudagar ( King of death) , Ravan ( Villian of Hindu epic Ramayan) , Gandi Nali Ka Keeda ( fly of dirty stream) , Monkey, Rabies Victim, Virus, Bhasmasur ( Hindu mythological Villain who has the ability burn any body instantly) , Gangu Teli( racist comment on his "Oil-presser" caste ), Goon etc. The list goes on.

Nothing stopped him. He became 3 time Gujarat Chief Minister. Each time every body expected him to lose, but won for every body's surprise. The more media vilified him, more development he showed and inspired more folks across the nation, that lead him to become prime minister in 2014 and second time in 2019 with majority on his own. This is a rare event in Indian politics of diverse identities and conflicts where "Anti-incumbency" plays a major role.
Voting for Indian parliamentary elections are due to start 19 April 2024 and conclude on 1 June 2024. Over the years, many words or slogans coined to represent his achievements. Many of the problems which everybody that impossible to solve since the independence, he solved them that earned him many names including " Modi hai tho kuch bhi na munkin" (If Modi is there, nothing is impossible).

Latest one that depicts the confidence is "Modi's Guarantee". This "Modi Guarantee" slogan worked very well in the recent assembly polls. Here is pdf of the party manifesto for this parliamentary election.
For the people who saw the same politicians who come every 5 years (or less) to their door steps, promising "every thing" (decade after decade) and deliver nothing, doesn't mind to to vote for him again. That doesn't mean every thing is hunky dory and happy ever after, which never happens in this world.
 
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