Neurosis caused by past life traumas

[Solar]

Having finished "Myth of Sanity" and "Trapped in the Mirror", there is a question that I am pondering. Can past life experiences/traumas create a condition in the current life of an individual that he/she develops neurosis? The above mentioned books discuss childhood traumas and how the survival instinct kicks in, in case of child abuse, inappropriate parental behavior or severe trauma, creating pathological reactions that become ingrained and stay with the person for the rest of his/her life. Such examples are dissociative identity disorder, or narcissistic behavior, but I can imagine that various phobias and neurotical conditions also have such a backgorund in a persons life.

These reactions seem to be bodily/mental reactions to threat or unbearable conditions, which makes me doubt if it's possible at all to carry these negative programs over from a previous life. The mechanism of the development of such programs seems to be related to bodily experiences in this life (survival of the body and fixated bodily/mental reactions to accomplish this). The mechanism of such an imprint surviving the death of the body is unclear to me.

There are a couple of references to this topic in the cassiopean material:

(Guest) Or a past life?

(L) Have you ever had any intimations or any feelings?

(Belibaste) Or a strong fear or habit, something strong in you but you don't know where it comes from. It doesn't seem to come from this current life.

(Guest) Well, yeah, but I don't have any memories of past lives or inclinations...

(L) Are there any particular periods of history that fascinate you, or that you were drawn to - whether it's in horror and fondness?

(Guest) I was kind of drawn to South America when I was younger.

(Ark) What was it about South America?

(Guest) I wanted to go there a lot.

(Ark) Why?

(Guest) I dunno.

(Ark) Conquistadores? You were indian?

(L) Well, I'm talking about historically speaking, not locationally speaking. Any particular period in history? Like when you were studying history in school, was there any period where you thought, "Wow! That's really really horrible, I don't want to know anything about it!" or, "It's really really interesting and it attracts my eye. I would have liked to have been there."

(Guest) Whenever we studied the Second World War, First and Second World Wars...

A: Bingo.

Q: (Guest) Second World War?

A: Yes.

Q: (Bubbles) Was he a Jew?

A: No

Q: (Bubbles) You were a Nazi!!!

(Guest) Was I a Nazi?

A: No

Q: (Guest) Was I British?

A: No

Q: (L) Why don't you ask the question in a different form?

(Guest) What nationality was I?

A: Polish.

(Guest) Did I die violently?

A: Oh yes. In the resistance. And you have been resisting and not trusting ever since.

Q: (L) Why not trusting?

A: Betrayed.

Q: (Guest) Betrayed by a woman?

A: Yes.

Q: (Bubbles) A Nazi woman?

A: Yes.

Q: (Guest) A double agent. This is starting sound like a bad fiction novel. Was I in love with her?

A: Yes.

Q: (Burma Jones) I saw this movie. [laughter]

(Andromeda) What did she do?

A: Gave details of plans to save herself.

Q: (Guest) So it wasn't a particularly violent death, I was just executed or shot?

A: More or less though there was a bit of torture in an effort to extract more information.

Q: (Guest) The part of history that has fascinated me the most is modern history. Of all the stuff that fires me up, like the stuff that's going on now...

A: With good reason.

Another one:

Q: (L) Well, I guess I could ask a few more questions about J__. What else could I ask?

A: Searing his lungs with flames.

Q: (L) Did that happen in the plane crash?

A: Immediately after missile strike.

Q: (L) Tell us more of what you are seeing at this moment.

A: Breathing in fire.

Q: (L) Was this the cause of death?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this the reason J__ has suffered from asthma?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, you previously said the leg was torn off with the missile strike, is this correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there any other injuries that occurred that he would be experiencing backlash from at this time?

A: Spine severed 17 locations.

Q: (L) Does this cause him back pain?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Any other physical symptoms or experiences?

A: Psychological.

Q: (L) In this experience, how long after the missile struck did he actually leave the body?

A: 14 seconds.

Q: (L) It was pretty much instantaneous.

A: Close.

Q: (L) Still, under those circumstances, 14 seconds can be forever. (F) No kidding. Time slows down to a standstill. (L) What were the last thoughts G__ R__ had before he left the body?

A: He thought of his family and his childhood home.

...

Q: (L) Well, that is real curious. Goodness gracious. Okay, I would like to know who A__ was in her last lifetime?

A: Luther Meinhardt.

Q: (L) Where did Luther Meinhardt live?

A: Deutschland.

Q: (L) And what year was Luther Meinhardt born in Deutschland?

A: 1904.

Q: (L) And when did Luther Meinhardt die?

A: 1947.

Q: (L) What did Luther Meinhardt die from?

A: Dysentery.

Q: (L) Was there some connection between Luther and me in that lifetime?

A: Was officer in Gestapo.

Q: (L) Did I know this officer in the Gestapo?

A: Not directly or by name.

Q: (L) Well, if I didn't know this person directly or by name, did this person have some effect on my life?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What effect did this person have on my life. What did they do?

A: Arrested husband.

Q: (L) And at the time my husband was arrested, what happened then?

A: Nothing of import.

Q: (L) What happened to the husband after he was arrested? Why was he arrested?

A: Judisch.

Q: (L) He was arrested because he was Jewish?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was I also Jewish?

A: No.

Q: (L) And how many children did I have?

A: Four.

Q: (L) What was the result of the arrest of my husband? Was he taken to a concentration camp, killed, or what?

A: Killed.

Q: (L) How was he killed?

A: Shot.

Q: (L) Was this the point at which I committed suicide by diving from a window?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, there were the four children; what then happened to the children?

A: Taken to camp "Orphanage."

Q: (L) What happened to the four of them there?

A: Different fates.

Q: (L) What was the oldest one's name?

A: Rita.

Q: (L) What happened to Rita?

A: Died in camp.

Q: (L) How old was Rita when she died in the camp?

A: 17.

Q: (L) What was the next oldest one's name?

A: Gerta.

Q: (L) What happened to Gerta?

A: Died in camp.

Q: (L) How old was Gerta when she died?

A: 15.

Q: (L) What was the next one's name?

A: Klaus.

Q: (L) What happened to Klaus?

A: Experimented upon, survived, lives in Austria or Holland.

Q: (L) Why does he live in one or the other?

A: Hard to decipher because he moves.

Q: (L) Does he move back and forth from one place to the other?

A: Has or does.

Q: (L) And Klaus is still living. When was Klaus born?

A: 1929.

Q: (L) What was the last name of the family?

A: Gerspringer.

Q: (L) What happened to the youngest child?

A: Ernst. Died 1987.

Q: (L) So, Ernst survived the camp. Are any of the children I have now reincarnations of my children then?

A: No.

Q: (L) Are there any ramifications of this situation that I need to deal with?

A: Watch karmic interaction with A__. You may have hidden anger.

The first reference is a case of past life "emotional residue", the second quoted session brings cases of bodily imprints and hidden emotional reactions toward certain persons based on past life events.

My question is if actual neurosis can also be a result of past life traumas?
I was sure told that it is possible, several years ago when I was in psychotherapy. Actually in several therapies, but one was particularly interesting. After 3 sessions of hypnosis, my therapist told me that the cause of my problems are not to be found in this life, and she cannot help me anymore because she does not do past life regressions.
I had a bad case of OCD (which I still have today), but at that time it was life-inhibiting. I had to give up my job and go to clinical psychotherapy because of uncontrollable fears. I figured that my condition must be a result of some brutal life ending trauma, so a past life experience seemed the most plausible reason, and also one that is next to impossible to investigate, thereby offering me the possibility of just sweeping it all under the rug.

Reading the two mentioned books steered my attention again in the direction of childhood traumas. Maybe there is more in my childhood than meets the eye. it would be good to know where to search for clues, or at least to rule out some possibilities.

Any thoughts or links to previous discussions are welcome.

 

[Keit]

My question is if actual neurosis can also be a result of past life traumas?

Reading the two mentioned books steered my attention again in the direction of childhood traumas. Maybe there is more in my childhood than meets the eye. it would be good to know where to search for clues, or at least to rule out some possibilities.

Any thoughts or links to previous discussions are welcome.

It's possible, imo, but then, there can be many other possibilities as well. As for suggestions, don't know if you've been following recent discussions about SRT (spirit release therapy), but if not, here are several links that talk about it and may be helpful.

First, it's best to watch the new Knowledge and Being videos, that are a necessary background for the whole discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChKuOoR8feUt2Ab5VzAiOag

And then, there is this thread Patrick Rodriguez - Spirit Release Therapist?, where forum members share their thoughts and experiences.

And, of course, there is a great and very insightful SOTT radio interview, also with Patrick Rodriguez. Perhaps you already saw or read all of this, but that's what comes to mind!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sottnet/2014/01/26/spirit-release-soul-therapy-interview-with-patrick-rodriguez-heather-hayes

 

[Laura]

I think that many neuroses are due to past life trauma. But, you need to find out if the emotion is amplified by attachment which is quite possible.

Past-life and SRTherapy are both quite useful but finding a good therapist is always problematical. We like Patrick Rodgriquez and he works via phone, but some situations may require face to face work.

 

[Windmill knight]

On this subject, the list of recommended books here includes these two:

Life Between Life - Joel L. Whitton
Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation - Ian Stevenson

I have read neither, but I was thinking of doing so just as I came across this thread. I would appreciate if people who have read them commented on which one would be best to start with. Like Solar, I am mostly interested in the ways in which past-life experiences can translate into current life neurosis or programs - not so much in the evidence to support the case that it's a real phenomenon. Which one would you say is best/more insightful? Does anyone know of others worth reading apart from those two?

 

[Laura]

Whitton's book would be the one to start with.

 

[Windmill knight]

Thanks Laura! I just ordered both. :)

 

[Minas Tirith]

Past-life and SRTherapy are both quite useful but finding a good therapist is always problematical.

Long before I met this forum I was involved in a car accident (not my fault) which left me with a whiplash. I constantly had a nagging pain on the left side of my neck and received several months of treatment, which was fully paid by the insurance, but to no avail. An acquaintance then referred me to a lady who, as she said "works with your past-lives". I wasn't really sure about this whole thing at that time, but decided to give her a try. Since she also did phone-consultations and I didn't have to travel anywhere, what is there to loose, I thought. Long story short, after the consultation I only realized a couple of days later, that my pain was gone. Completely. And it never came back.

I consulted her again with a "psychological emotional issue" shortly after, and then, a couple of months later, after having gone through a string of pathological relationships for several years met my husband. Who was the first person in my life with whom I was able to lead a "normal" and healthy relationship.

Since it is so long ago I don't remember her name, nor do I know if she still works in that field. But I could find out if somebody is interested. She lives in Marin County, California and charged 100 Dollars per hour (the consultation might go for two or two and a half hours). You have an initial talk with her (no cost), where she "scans" you and tells you if she can help you or not.

I have often thought back to these "treatments" and wondered....

Fwiw, M.T.

 

[Solar]

Thanks for the links, Patrick Rodgriquez was new to me.

My experience is also that finding a good therapist can be hard. You might waste a lot of money until you find a decent one. Besides, it seems to me that half the country is sitting in some kind psychotherapy. You have to wait 9 months for an appointment .

I have a tendency for self-help nowadays. Seems to work better for me.
I am personally drawn to Ian Stevenson's book. It might be worth it to check it out. Case studies are always nice, one can learn a lot from them.

Based on Amazon reviews Whitton's book may be more introductory like Michael Newton's "Journey of Souls".

 

[Laura]

I am personally drawn to Ian Stevenson's book. It might be worth it to check it out. Case studies are always nice, one can learn a lot from them.

Based on Amazon reviews Whitton's book may be more introductory like Michael Newton's "Journey of Souls".

Thing is, Whitton's book talks about traumas passing over into the next life, Stevenson is mainly concerned with "proving" reincarnation and doesn't deal so much with psychological problems. Whitton is a psychiatrist who has had to deal with these things and that is what his book is about. So, be "drawn" or whatever, or ask for a suggestion and take guidance from those who have traveled the path. Up to you.

 

[Solar]

Point taken Laura.
I tend to base my decisions regarding what I do and what I read a bit too much on my feelings, which might be a way to avoid exactly the infromation I need.
I recognized this before, when I felt an irresistible urge to not read the Narcissism Big 5 books in the order you have suggested. I recognize that this is my sense of self-importance in action. I always want to know better what is good for me and what is not. It's no wonder that I am dealing a lot with the topic of narcissism lately. It seems no matter how cautiously I try to formulate my sentences in the forum, I cannot hide this sense of self-importance.
I feel a bit embarassed, that this comes out in an unrelated topic, but I guess this is the way it had to be. I'll try to counteract my tendencies by just sticking to your recommendations exactly as they are.

 

[Laura]

Point taken Laura.
I tend to base my decisions regarding what I do and what I read a bit too much on my feelings, which might be a way to avoid exactly the infromation I need.
I recognized this before, when I felt an irresistible urge to not read the Narcissism Big 5 books in the order you have suggested. I recognize that this is my sense of self-importance in action. I always want to know better what is good for me and what is not. It's no wonder that I am dealing a lot with the topic of narcissism lately. It seems no matter how cautiously I try to formulate my sentences in the forum, I cannot hide this sense of self-importance.
I feel a bit embarassed, that this comes out in an unrelated topic, but I guess this is the way it had to be. I'll try to counteract my tendencies by just sticking to your recommendations exactly as they are.

If your life is perfect and you have no problems, then carry on as you are/were. However, if that is not the case, never forget that you are where you are because of the way you think. And you can't even think about the way you think with the way you think and come to any objective conclusions.

 

[Minas Tirith]

To this day I do not know what this lady actually DID, but I do know that it wouldn't have worked if I just had read a book about it. :)

M.T.

 

[davey72]

I wonder if these things all go hand in hand? Regarding attachment, past life traumas manifesting in bodily complications in this life that may even require an attachment in this life for a time? Perhaps there is even a karmic connection to the attachments? Or past life karmic issues that lead one individual to subconsciously create neuroses in another? Etc. I'm just thinking out loud, but i wonder, and do not recall if these questions were ever brought up in a session?

 

[Gaby]

I wonder if these things all go hand in hand? Regarding attachment, past life traumas manifesting in bodily complications in this life that may even require an attachment in this life for a time? Perhaps there is even a karmic connection to the attachments? Or past life karmic issues that lead one individual to subconsciously create neuroses in another? Etc. I'm just thinking out loud, but i wonder, and do not recall if these questions were ever brought up in a session?

This one gives food for thought:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32972.msg454837.html#msg454837

"We call the source of unhappiness and disease `trauma.' And we believe that there are live representations
of trauma in all of us. In our tradition, we call them `spirits of trauma.' Whenever something hurts you and you don't accept it fully as a complete part of your history, you create a gap in your memory; a gap which, when the hurt is strong or repeated many times, becomes occupied by a spirit of trauma. [...] The internal psychic process, often extended throughout generations by the inheritance of patterns of trauma formed, perhaps long, long ago, when one of your ancestors went through an unbearable hurt.

[...] First, because when you conquer them, it brings profound healing, reverses unhappiness, and treats disease. Diseases are the means by which (in organism tries to fight the traumas on its own. So many Times, I've seen people get sick and look for help at very particular points in their life, moments when the spirit of trauma becomes activated in a person with incomplete psychic memory. That is why many healing changes follow when you are able to eradicate the root of trauma.

"Second, we believe in our tradition that whatever we do directly touches generations before and after us. When you free yourself from trauma, you heal your ancestors and protect generations after you.

But I find Laura's Knowledge and Being videos much more clarifying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht35431bofg

Patrick Rodriguez also explains that attached entities resonate with a hurt and so they get attached to the individual, but they make any defense mechanism much more exaggerated. Laura also shared some interesting examples and concepts on the SRT radio show:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sottnet/2014/01/26/spirit-release-soul-therapy-interview-with-patrick-rodriguez-heather-hayes

Indeed, food for thought.

 

[mabar]

Interesting! ... Neurosis caused by past life traumas, is similar as what I had been thinking, regarding to karma, I born with this set of characteristics due to some? lack of/had not done/ done etc... in another life, knowing of past lives and SRT are both, for the time being, too far to reach, books, and the recommended videos (although had not seen them, I had read them) had provided food for thought. I had been observing that I have neurosis like issues and had been observing also my anxieties (where they came from), and not just observing, though observing had been helping in -catch them in situ- and able to stop the program or at least registered them.

This year, or last months, more precisely, I had observed that my nails had been growing more quickly??, well, I eat my nails, since around 2-3 years ago I had been observing in which moment I start to eat them, it had been whenever an information that is cognitive dissonance to my psyche - most of the time, other times a word, a feeling, an impression (visual, like weather). I had stopped and go to cut the nails with the nail clipper. I had been surprised that I start seeing the white line (grown nail?). Curious. From what I understand in an overall sense, is that I didn't digest my mother's milk being an infant, that could be one cause, the other in that line of thought, I tended to suck my thumb, but at the age of six I wear this teeth restrains for the purpose of stop sucking my thumb, from there I started with the nails, had not stopped since then and til now, somehow ... I cannot say I am over it yet.