New cocktail of three flu viruses in Ukraine

[ana]

New virus on the loose..

_http://www.express.co.uk:80/posts/view/140492/Million-hit-by-plague-worse-than-swine-flu

MILLION HIT BY 'PLAGUE WORSE THAN SWINE FLU'

Sunday November 15,2009

A DEADLY plague could sweep across Europe, doctors fear, after an outbreak of a virus in Ukraine plunged the country and its neighbours into a state of panic.


A cocktail of three flu viruses are reported to have mutated into a single pneumonic plague, which it is believed may be far more dangerous than swine flu. The death toll has reached 189 and more than 1 million people have been infected, most of them in the nine regions of Western Ukraine.

President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko has called in the World Health Organisation and a team of nine specialists are carrying out tests in Kiev and Lviv to identify the virus. Samples have been sent to London for analysis.

President Yushchenko said: “People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely inconceivable in the 21st Century.”

In a TV interview, the President added: “Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine – two seasonal flus and the Californian flu

“Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation.”

Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has been touring hospitals where victims are being treated and presidential elections in January could be cancelled .

Four men and one woman have died from the flu in Lviv, said emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych. Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with two others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

“We have sent the analyses to Kiev. We don’t believe it’s H1N1 swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is.”

Universities, schools and kindergartens have been closed, public meetings have been banned and theatres shut. Last week several border crossings in the country were also closed.

Last night reports emerged of profiteering over face masks, which have sold out since the outbreak. There are also incidents of anti-virus medication being sold for exorbitant prices. A spokesman for the World Health Organisation said: “We do not have a time scale for the results of the tests in London, although some preliminary results have been obtained. I cannot tell you what they are.

“We did not have enough of the virus samples so we will have to grow some more before we can come to a conclusive decision about its nature.”

Neighbouring Poland has called on the EU to take action, fearing the mystery virus may spread westwards.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk has written to European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and the Swedish Prime Minister, Fredrik Reinfeldt, who holds the EU presidency, saying: “The character of this threat demands that rapid action be undertaken at the European Union level.”

Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary and Romania, countries that border Ukraine, have already launched health checks on Ukrainians entering their territory.

Slovakia has closed two of five border crossings.

A doctor in Western Ukraine who did not want to be named, said:” We have carried out post mortems on two victims and found their lungs are as black as charcoal.

“They look like they have been burned. It’s terrifying

 

[ana]

_http://www.digitaljournal.com:80/article/282179

Deadly Ukraine H1N1 strain to be tested by British scientists

With wild rumors circulating across the internet on the nature of the flu strain raging in the Ukraine, a team of British scientists having begun testing the 'super flu' that has been responsible for 189 deaths across the country.

As conspiracy theories and collusion rumors go, the H1N1 swine flu outbreak in the Ukraine provided the right amount of juice to keep the web presses running. At its peak, there were reports of suspected hemorrhagic pneumonia as the core symptom of a mysterious new virus in the country.

The Ukraine rumors caught on and were coupled with reports of overhead aerosol spraying in Kiev just prior to the outbreak and leading many to believe that the population was intentionally infected with a powerful biological agent.
The World Health Organization responded to the crisis and the resulting rumors, visiting with health officials in the Ukraine. After assessing the situation on the ground, WHO officials have now begun suggesting that anti-viral drugs be administered earlier to help prevent swine flu deaths.

Despite WHO assurances that the epidemic in the Ukraine was indeed badly-managed H1N1 swine flu, a team of British scientists is now testing samples to see if this may be the beginning of a dreaded mutation in the H1N1 virus. A more virulent mutation would be a repeat of history, as the 1918 H1N1 influenza demonstrated a disturbingly similar pattern of mild introduction.
"Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three causes of serious viral infections came together simultaneously in Ukraine: two seasonal flus and the Californian flu," Ukraine President Yushchenko said in a television interview. "Virologists conclude that this combination of infections may produce an even more aggressive new virus as a result of mutation."

The British scientists confirmed that they do not yet have enough samples to determine the nature or strain of the Ukraine virus.

"We do not have a time scale for the results of the tests, although some preliminary results have been obtained. I cannot tell you what they are, " a spokesperson told the Daily Mail. "We did not have enough of the virus samples so we will have to grow some more before we can come to a conclusive decision about its nature."

 

[Mountain Crown]

Wow. This would seem it has been stepped up a notch.

 

[Regulattor]

Why Ukraine?
I mean, for the last few weeks there was a lot of bad news coming from Ukraine regarding new flu. Check out this thread: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14560.0

And now this!? Well, there is still this thing of future elections in Ukraine and recent raising of flu tensions in Ukraine is explained by growing political confortation between opposing political camps of pres. Yushchenko and PM Timoshenko and it's mostly for the gaining of political points in pre election clash.

But engaging WHO "experts" in equation is eyebrow raising for sure.

If this is genuine information, in terms of that is what's happening there, then we can call this really exploding news from Ukraine.

I'm wondering now, whether was Ukraine explosion remark from C's ever solved?

 

[go2]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197075-Ukraine-Flu-Outbreak-Virus-Is-a-Mixture-of-H1N1-and-Parainfluenza-Causes-Cardiopulmonary-Failure

The news is very confusing. Sorting disinformation and panic mongering from the facts is not easy at this point.
Professor Victor Bachinsky says a good immune system is sufficient to resist this flu strain. He recommends
garlic as a defense against the vampire errr virus. :D

 

[Rich]

If this is genuine information, in terms of that is what's happening there, then we can call this really exploding news from Ukraine.

I'm wondering now, whether was Ukraine explosion remark from C's ever solved?

That is interesting Regulattor. The quote from Session 941103 is this:

A: Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear.

I suppose bioterrorism would fit the prediction

 

[Windmill knight]

Assuming that the information is correct, this is again too much of a coincidence. As this video explains, it appears that it was expected that different types of flu viruses would combine and mutate to create a more lethal and virulent one, but it didn't happen because someone in a lab noticed that vaccines were contaminated. And now, after weeks of flu hysteria in Ukraine, and months of global swine flu hysteria courtesy of the WHO, there's a new epidemic of recombined viruses?? C'mon!

 

[Rich]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/197075-Ukraine-Flu-Outbreak-Virus-Is-a-Mixture-of-H1N1-and-Parainfluenza-Causes-Cardiopulmonary-Failure

The news is very confusing. Sorting disinformation and panic mongering from the facts is not easy at this point.
Professor Victor Bachinsky says a good immune system is sufficient to resist this flu strain. He recommends
garlic as a defense against the vampire errr virus. :D

He also makes a valid explanation for the high reported death rate:

Antibiotics are the reason we have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.

If true, it does offer some reassurance behind the potential threat of this particular outbreak. - time will tell - and as Windmill Knight correctly points out it is far too much of a coincidence.

 

[mkrnhr]

IMHO, viruses do not combine alone. The do but the uncertainty is so big that it is unlikely that the labs mix them in vaccine doses and wait that the viruses combine randomly in some country at some time of the year if it ever happens. The combined virus have to be assured in the lab before it goes out.
My point is that if you have a Virus A that you wish to combine with a virus B in order to create a virus C, you have to do it in the lab, then put the A, B C viruses in the vaccine so people will think that A and B combined accidentally. Because if you have the virus C alone, it will be suspicious that it was done in the lab.
Also, random mutations that gives exactly what was expected for months ("the virus will mutate in few months and become lethal") is more then suspicious!

 

[pete02]

It seems my fears are now confirmed. I had thought about what would happen to people who take the swine flu vaccine when another more potent flu comes around. These poor people's systems are now fighting the swine flu they volunteered to have put in them and their immune systems are now weakened for a stronger flu to attack. Apparently the PTB do indeed plan on killing thousands maybe even millions of people depending on how this is handled. It does seem a bit premature tho because not as many as they would like have taken the vaccine here in the states as far as I know. I just hope the rest will now think before they put that poison in their systems!

 

[Regulattor]

Apparently the PTB do indeed plan on killing thousands maybe even millions of people depending on how this is handled. It does seem a bit premature tho because not as many as they would like have taken the vaccine here in the states as far as I know. I just hope the rest will now think before they put that poison in their systems!

Here where I live, almost 2/3 of population doesn't want to take flu shot in spite of every day main stream news campaign to do so. It is encouraging to see that people are not so naive after all when health/life is at stake. I'm afraid that PTBs are not going to stop here. Even more fearmongerenig and panic raising news are to be expected in upcoming days and weeks in order to weaken vaccination resistance. We should look this kind of news from that point also, at least for now.

 

[mkrnhr]

Even more fearmongerenig and panic raising news are to be expected in upcoming days and weeks

Well, that could mean also that they will need more deaths... :S

 

[Pierrebxl]

Some doctors makes a parrallel between that new type of flu and the 1918 Spanish flu: _http://en.rian.ru/exsoviet/20091117/156867601.html

"Some doctors have likened the symptoms to those seen in many of the victims of the Spanish flu which caused millions of deaths world-wide after the World War I"

Here are some infos about the 1918 Spanish flu:

In an article entitled "Swine Flu Propaganda Explained", another researcher, Steve Collier, notes facts about the 1918 "Spanish Flu" epidemic, "Only a few died at first [these deaths are just normal occurrences]. However, they are still saying this could explode when winter comes. Therefore, governments will now suggest or enforce that the population are vaccinated - before winter comes - hence the large stockpiles of vaccines already in place. You'll see people dieing more and more as winter approaches - not because of some swine virus but because of the lethal cocktail of poisons in the vaccine"

_http://h1n1vaccinethinktwice.blogspot.com/2009/11/researchers-question-nature-cause-and.html#more

Vaccine not virus responsible for Spanish flu

Ryle Dwyer writes on the horror of the 1918-20 pandemic which the propaganda says was caused by Spanish flu

Irish Examiner, May 1 2003

How did they know it was the virus of Spanish flu that killed millions of civilians and soldiers? This disaster occurred when viruses were unknown to medical science. It took a British science team to identify the first virus in man in 1933.

As regards the origin of the outbreak, he relates that a senior US army officer suggested that the Germans might have been responsible for the bug as part of their war effort, by spreading it in theatres or where large numbers of people assembled.

Did they also spread it among their own people, killing 400,000 as reported? Ryle would have us believe that all those American soldiers who died from non-combatant causes may have died from Spanish flu.

But US Army records show that seven men dropped dead after being vaccinated.

A report from US Secretary of War Henry L Stimson not only verified these deaths but also stated that there had been 63 deaths and 28,585 cases of hepatitis as a direct result of yellow fever vaccination during only six months of the war.

That was only one of the 14 to 25 shots given to recruits.

Army records also reveal that after vaccination became compulsory in the US Army in 1911, not only did typhoid increase rapidly but all other vaccinal diseases increased at an alarming rate.

After America entered the war in 1917, the death rate from typhoid vaccination rose to the highest point in the history of the US Army.

The deaths occurred after the shots were given in sanitary American hospitals and well-supervised army camps in France, where sanitation had been practised for years.

The report of the Surgeon-General of the US Army shows that during 1917 there were admitted into the army hospitals 19,608 men suffering from anti-typhoid inoculation and vaccinia.

This takes no account of those whose vaccine diseases were attributed to other causes.

The army doctors knew all these cases of disease and death were due to vaccination and were honest enough to admit it in their medical reports.

When army doctors tried to suppress the symptoms of typhoid with a stronger vaccine, it caused a worse form of typhoid paratyphoid.

But when they concocted an even stronger vaccine to suppress that one, they created an even worse disease Spanish flu.

After the war, this was one of the vaccines used to protect a panic-stricken world from the soldiers returning from WWI battlefronts infected with dangerous diseases.

I was an on-the-spot observer of the 1918 influenza epidemic

All the doctors and people who were living at the time of the 1918 Spanish Influenza epidemic say it was the most terrible disease the world has ever had. Strong men, hale and hearty, one day would be dead the next. The disease had the characteristics of the black death added to typhoid, diphtheria, pneumonia, smallpox, paralysis and all the diseases the people had been vaccinated with immediately following World War 1. Practically the entire population had been injected "seeded" with a dozen or more diseases - or toxic serums. When all those doctor-made diseases started breaking out all at once it was tragic.

That pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

When the flu was at its peak, all the stores were closed as well as the schools, businesses - even the hospital, as the doctors and nurses had been vaccinated too and were down with the flu. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. We seemed to be the only family which didn't get the flu; so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to look after the sick, as it was impossible to get a doctor then. If it were possible for germs, bacteria, virus, or bacilli to cause disease, they had plenty of opportunity to attack my parents when they were spending many hours a day in the sick rooms. But they didn't get the flu and they didn't bring any germs home to attack us children and cause anything. None of our family had the flu - not even a sniffle - and it was in the winter with deep snow on the ground.

When I see people cringe when someone near them sneezes or coughs, I wonder how long it will take them to find out that they can't catch it - whatever it is. The only way they can get a disease is to develop it themselves by wrong eating, drinking or doing some other things which cause internal poisoning and lowered vitality. All diseases are preventable and most of them are cureable with the right methods, not known to medical doctors, and not all drugless doctors know them either.

It has been said that the 1918 flu epidemic killed 20,000,000 people throughout the world. But, actually, the doctors killed them with their crude and deadly treatments and drugs. This is a harsh accusation but it is nevertheless true, judging by the success of the drugless doctors in comparison with that of the medical doctors.

While the medical men and medical hospitals were losing 33% of their flu cases, the non-medical hospitals such as BATTLE CREEK, KELLOGG and MACFADDEN'S HEALTH-RESTORIUM were getting almost 100% healings with their water cure, baths, enemas, etc., fasting and certain other simple healing methods, followed by carefully worked out diets of natural foods. One health doctor didn't lose a patient in eight years. The very successful health treatment of one of those drugless doctors who didn't lose any patients will be given in the other part of this book, titled Vaccination Condemned, to be published a little later.

If the medical doctors had been as advanced as the drugless doctors, there would not have been those 20 million deaths from the medical flu treatment.

There was seven times more disease among the vaccinated soldiers than among the unvaccinated civilians, and the diseases were those they had been vaccinated against. One soldier who had returned from overseas in 1912 told me that the army hospitals were filled with cases of infantile paralysis and he wondered why grown men should have an infant disease. Now, we know that paralysis is a common after-effect of vaccine poisoning. Those at home didn't get the paralysis until after the world-wide vaccination campaign in 1918.

_http://h1n1vaccinethinktwice.blogspot.com/2009/11/volunteers-wear-masks-to-protect.html#more


The 1918 death toll was super high. But why? because of the flu or because of the vaccine?

 

[Windmill knight]

That pandemic dragged on for two years, kept alive with the addition of more poison drugs administered by the doctors who tried to suppress the symptoms. As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time. We knew from the health teachings of Graham, Trail, Tilden and others, that people cannot contaminate the body with poisons without causing disease.

Interesting that it is said that the Spanish flu killed people because it provoked an immune overreaction (which was more pronounced in healthy people, hence the higher amount of young deaths); and now it turns out that the H1N1 vaccine contains a much higher than usual amount of coadyuvants which stimulate an immune reaction! In other words, if there is a virus similar to the Spanish flu and it infects people that have taken the vaccine, there will probably be a large number of deaths.

 

[Mona]

Please bare with me, I just read this article and wanted to share it with you. I am including the website address and below the address is the actual article. I think it would be better to go directly to the website as I might have accidently deleted a part of it. It is interesting that the pathologist said that the lungs of the deceased were not black at all as previously reported. But then we can not be 100% sure that he is telling the truth.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16088

Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not pneumonia, but cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock... The virus enters directly into the lungs, there is bleeding... Antibiotics should not be used...

Why do we have such a high mortality rate in the country?

Because people are going to pharmacies to get medicine instead of going to their doctors to be treated... No it is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense... antibiotics do not help... Those with strong immune systems will survive. People with weak immune systems will succumb to the illness... Face Masks provide 30% extra protection. Wearing glasses gives an additional 10% protection, that is 40%, because the virus penetrates the mucose membranes.

The Head of the Chernivtsi regional forensic bureau, Professor Victor Bachinsky M.D. makes a strong statement: all the victims of the virus in Bukovina (22 persons aged 20 to 40 years) died not from bilateral (double) pneumonia, as previously thought, but as a result of viral distress syndrome, i.e. the total destruction of the lungs. We caught up with Professor Bachinsky, to find out how he came to this conclusion, and how people can protect themselves from this disease.

Professor, you said earlier that the virus, from which many people have died – is a mixture of types of parainfluenza and influenza A/H1N1. How do you cure this disease?

The question of how to treat this virus is not up to me. I am a pathologist. I just found out what it is and made an exact diagnosis. It is important to provide the correct treatment based on diagnosis.

There are strict protocols and standards of treatment in medicine. If a doctor treats a patient who dies, their relatives can make a complaint that they were not treated properly (misdiagnosed). The Ministry of Health has set the protocols and standards of treatment for each diagnosis. If diagnosed correctly, the treatment should be correct...

In the Chernivtsi region 18 people have died. We studied all the history and evidence from this disease, preclinical, clinical, resuscitation. When we perform an autopsy organs and tissues have histological studies (cell analysis) and we concluded that it was not pneumonia, and has no relation to pneumonia whatsoever.

These results are the foundation to ensure that doctors who treat this disease all over Ukraine, change their tactics and standards of care.

Can this new virus be cured?

It depends on the immune system. If a person’s immune system is strong, they will overcome it. There are people who carry this strain of H1N1 and remain on their feet and don’t even realise they are sick.

Antibiotics definitely should not be taken. Antibiotics are the reason we have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.

During autopsies, what did the lungs look like? Were they really black, which gave rise to so much talk of pulmonary plague?

No, they are not black... This is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense. Pneumonic plague has a very different morphology. We have, for example, 60 thousand people who became sick and 23 have died. With pulmonary plague, we would now have a mortality rate of 59 thousand...

This is a viral attack that destroys the lungs.

It turns out that not only in Bukovina, but also throughout the Ukraine people did not die from pneumonia, but from this toxic strain?

Yes, It’s not pneumonia! This destruction of the lungs. This strain is very toxic, and if the immune system is weak, there is bleeding in the lungs. In the lungs there is a tiny structure – acinus, which looks like a bunch of grapes. When you breathe, oxygen enters this tiny “bunch of grapes” ( pulmonary alveoli ). On the surface of the acinus are the capillaries, where red blood cells saturate with oxygen and give blood, which supplies all tissues and organs in the body.

And once the virus enters the lungs – hemorrhaging begins immediately in the acinus. A continuous hemorrhage... It takes several hours. In the blood fibrin is formed, and from it – giolinovaya membrane, resembling a plastic bag. It envelops the acinus, and the person breathes in oxygen, but it is not transferred to the tissues. And people just gasp. There is a cardio-pulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock. People die of cardiogenic shock. And there is no pneumonia. Pneumonia – an inflammation, which is treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics cannot help at any stage. There should be absolutely different treatment.

And how about Tamiflu – does it help?

This is not an antibiotic, it is an antiviral drug, which should be applied on the second or third day of the disease. But you can not use Tamiflu as a preventitive, because it is toxic.

What are the best measures to resist the disease? Is it advisable to use a mask, garlic, vitamin C?

The primary method of prevention is a face mask. This give 30% extra protection. If you wear glasses [goggles] – it is 40%, because the virus enters through the mucous membranes.

It is necessary to improve the human immune system. Not only now, but in general. Garlic, onions, wild rose, viburnum (guelder rose), raspberries, citrus fruit, honey, and other fruits and vegetables – whatever you want. Those with a strong immune system will survive. Those with weaker immune systems will succumb to the disease.

We have a lot of people in Ukraine who like shopping at the open markets. If we can avoid open markets, the less people will be in contact with each other and more lives will be saved.

You have contacted the Health Ministry and advised them to review the standards for treatment of patients. What did they say?

We sent them all our data, the necessary protocols and standards of treatment, our diagnosis. But it is clear that decisions cannot be instantaneous.

And why until now has nobody else known about this disease? What were the leading specialists in the Ministry of Health doing all this time?

Perhaps this is due to the fact that there are scientists who are working on a purely theoretical basis. And there are scientists who have seen the autopsy results. I practice as head of the regional forensic bureau and as a professor. The fact that we have established this diagnosis – it is not just to my credit, and this is not my personal opinion. This is the opinion of specialists, morphologists and doctors in Bukovina. There are five professors in our group – I just head the group.


Professor Victor Bachinsky, M.D. is a coroner in the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine. He also teaches at the Department of Anatomical Pathology and Forensic Medicine of Bukovynian State Medical Academy.

Original interview in Russian by Anna Yashchenko published by Unian: www.unian.net/rus/news/news-346721.html


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