Plague / influenza / iodine / good vaccines

Muxel

Dagobah Resident
I just had a bout of the flu and it's like dying (and in my lucid moments, praying I could be killed to be spared the pain) followed by a rebirth - when you find your body has unexpectedly shaken off the illness.

I kept asking, "Why? Why why why? Why are we humans subjected to this pain throughout our lifetimes, as if life were not already challenging enough?" Does the Red Queen hypothesis hold true, and we are forever doomed to play catch-and-evade with these viruses, and whoever among us fall prey to it, we merely write off as natural selection? (For humans are fundamentally selfish and ruthless creatures, after all.)

I am also reminded of Terry Nation's Survivors where the main character goes through a similar (but I suppose, magnitudes more death-dealing) ordeal, and when she wakes in the kitchen, the world is changed and she finds she has survived.

This time around I did something different: I put iodine on my hands. I'm not sure how much it helped, but notably I didn't lose my voice. It used to be that each time I came down with a cold or the flu, I would get laryngitis and my voice would depart for an agonizing period of time. Should credit be given to the iodine? After all, the thyroid and tonsils and voice box are all in the throat - the throat chakra.

I guess iodine should help...
[quote author="Session 21 November 2015"]Q: (L) Plague?

A: Yes.[/quote]

In any case, the flu is such an ordeal that all I want to do is get flu shots and never fall victim to it again. But naturopaths on the Internet tell us how vaccinations are terrible things. And I wonder, are they really? Cowpox, the original vaccine from whence the term is derived (the Latin root vacca means "cow") proved to be a historically successful preventative against the fatal smallpox. It also seems that cavalry had less deaths to smallpox compared to infantry, this being attributed to horsepox giving cavalry troops some immunity. It may be that our interaction with 2D animals is our saving grace, since through them, we catch strains of disease that are relatively benign to us (we not being the "target host") that nevertheless grant us immunity for when the kin strains - that DO target us humans specifically - arrive in our vicinity. Along these lines I am reminded of what the C's said:
[quote author="C's"]as third density bioengineered beings, you lead the smorgasbord parade of that which surrounds you in the physical realm[/quote]

I'd venture to think that one of the reasons vaccination has been given a bad name by naturopaths is because contemporary usage of the term overlaps with "variolation" (from the Latin name for the smallpox virus, Variola). Variolation, whereby people were infected with a mild form of smallpox in an effort to grant them immunity, was not very successful and still carried the risk of fatality, and was soon replaced by vaccination with cowpox. I suspect that most of today's "vaccines" are actually variolation - since the medical industry uses allegedly "deactivated"/"attenuated" forms of the same virus. (No wonder the naturopaths are complaining!) So I wonder now, and perhaps the C's could answer, did we ever have any other true vaccines after the first one in history, cowpox?

To wrap this up, I earnestly wish we had a cure, or a preventative (with 100% success rate), for the flu. To call it the "common flu" is really to understate the pain and agony it causes, how it makes you wish for death, and relief. You would not wish this on your worst enemy. And if we are to see a return of the Plague, the Great Cleansing, hopefully we can be guided to some tools of aid.
 
Hi Muxel, I remember getting a particularly bad case of the flu about twenty years ago. It lasted on and off for about two weeks if I remember correctly! It felt so bad that I had some of the same thoughts and feelings as yourself - wondering if it would ever end, feeling like I was going die, etc. When it was finally over, I had the thoughts of "Thank god I survived that! So glad to be feeling healthy again!" So I know where you're coming from! At the time, I decided that I never wanted to feel that way again, and so I got the flu shot for two years following that experience until something I heard turned me off to getting the shots altogether (and now we know even more about them of course).

In any case, I don't think - even with all that many of us are doing with the diet, iodine and supplementation that we can or should expect to get some new form of anti-flu or anti-anything shot that will make us 100% immune to the things that are coming down the road. Nor should we. There will be times that many of us are likely to experience something similar. And what you write just underscores the need to find the psychological and emotional tools that will help us to deal with those times (in addition, perhaps, to those supplements that may help ameliorate things). Easier said than done to be sure. But we have to remember that the god-awful feelings that may arise are, in a sense, a natural response to feeling so physically out of it, even if it is a struggle. And that also, getting viruses may, in the long run, actually be helpful to us.

Having said this, what can you say was helpful to you during this recent flu of yours? You're still here and writing - which is great - so what kept you going? And do you realize that in spite of the discomfort you experienced, that you DO have inner reserves of strength/knowledge/will that have helped you - and if so, how do you think we might strengthen those reserves?
 
Ennio said:
Having said this, what can you say was helpful to you during this recent flu of yours? You're still here and writing - which is great - so what kept you going? And do you realize that in spite of the discomfort you experienced, that you DO have inner reserves of strength/knowledge/will that have helped you - and if so, how do you think we might strengthen those reserves?

Additionally, you also had an immune system that did its job. Sure, you suffered during the time you were sick but you overcame it. So how do we lend assistance to the immune system and help to strengthen it? There are many ways. Diet is the foundation, along with good sleep, stress relievers like EE, meditation, singing, supplements, good and loving relationships just to name a few. As many authors would state, "It's the environment!", meaning the environment of your body and the environment outside of you.

And speaking of environments, the same holds true in the history of smallpox that you wrote about. If you look further through the history you will find that it was improvements in sanitation that made the biggest difference in combating smallpox not the smallpox vaccine. Cowpox/smallpox variolation or vaccination actually caused an increase in the number of infections.
More on that here and here. History has shown that improvements in nutrition and sanitation have been the key in eradicating disease outbreaks not vaccination. And that is why -- along with their horrendous side effects and uncanny way of causing the exact disease they are meant to prevent and worse -- vaccines get a bad rap not just from naturopaths but MD's, other health professionals and laypeople alike.

That being said, even when doing the best we can with our inner and outer environments doesn't mean that we will never experience illness. It seems to be that illness is part and parcel of being a human on this planet and there are many factors that come in to play with each illness. We may not ever know the exact causes in every case. The important thing is that you learn something from it as we are supposed to learn something from everything that we experience.
 
I had a terrible flu, something very hard, different from the ordinary flu in 2010 and I was so sick that I told to my husband to be prepared to my death. I think I catch the H1N1 from a guy I was working with. He had it. It last 3 weeks, 3 long weeks that I was literally dying. And then I am here. And you are here. And our bodies are stronger. And I love my body for his strength, and his capacity to recover from virus.

I used to take a homeopathic vaccine named Influenzinum. It worked when I took it. And I took it some years ago , every year. And never catch the flu. You can check information about it. Evidently in 2010 I forgot to take my homeopathic vaccine. Stupid of me!

http://www.homeopathystore.com/products/influenzinum

What I usually took before winter, from April (when I was living in cold country) was oscillococcinum, one tube by week during months before winter. Never catch a cold nor flu.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillococcinum
 
Hi Muxel. Given your description of how bad this bout with the flu affected you recently and in your previous life experiences with it, I would ask if you always try to make sure you have plenty of sunshine, vitamins, amino acids, fats and so forth in your daily diet? Do you take occasional walks or anything to benefit your circulation... especially for the lymphatic system?

Were you born with any particular susceptibilities that you might do well to take account of? For example, I was born with a predisposition for respiratory problems. I could only sleep peacefully with a fan circulating air around me. By 9 years of age, I found myself in an oxygen tent in the hospital. Later I'd get chest infections and whooping cough every single winter. I outgrew that but caught pneumonia in boot camp at 18 years of age and have had a few occasions through the rest of my life where, if I weren't careful, I would go into what resembles an asthma attack (but I haven't been diagnosed with asthma and my doctor says I don't have it), so I have to do whatever I can to try and stay healthy year round. I still occasionally get cold symptoms but for whatever reason haven't caught flu in a very long time.

On vaccines, if a 'safe' vaccine were possible, wouldn't the process of making one have been invented and perfected a long time ago, and if it had been, why is it not so today?

On a different note, the answer to your question about iodine would be interesting, I think.
 
Certainly there were many contributing factors that led to it: too much on my plate at work, not enough sunshine and outdoors, not enough sleep, irregular meals, and I suspect, the way my chest cavity is structured lends itself easily to respiratory infection/obstruction. Some of those I can change, some not so.

Honestly if there were a "safe" flu vaccine I would go for it. Will have to check out this Influenzinum.
 

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