Polar Opposite questions

[psychic_spy]

Oh since this is a thread on Gnosis, I believe Mouravieff has given an in-depth(?) description of what Polar Opposites are. About how 2 are actually 1 interms of the complimentary qualities of there personalities and being in its entirety etc etc. It might be a worthwhile exercise, to look objectively without emotional thinking on your interactions with victor to see if these exists between you to.


If I remember correctly, I think Mouravieff gives the number 66(?) as the number of people who are compatible with us(each individual), relationshipwise speaking. Out of these, there is like 3(?) who one can form a really strong bond with and out of this, there is only 1 polar being. I might be wrong but I think he gives a description of the sort in one of the books... Might be possible that victor falls within this range but isnt the one that is truly polar to you...

I didn't read that part about the numbers , all i know is that we both have the same destiny number , meaning 8 . Our dates of birth add up to the same number , though we're not born the same day. i'm on 3.07.1987 and he's 16.03.1987 , that's pretty weird.
It's true i might do some proojecting but i've done because i have dreamt him very often, even if for long periods of time i had't interacted with him. He told me he hadn't dreamed me at all so at a certain point i can see he doesn't see our relationship as a path to a greater personal growth. It's quite hard though, because he's not into esoterism and he seems not want to use his psychic powers at the benefit of our community or at least for his family. He's very secluded in his own world there and after i talked to other people they told me he might be some sort of schizoid ( i reeally hope he's not a psychopatic one). I'll try to detach myself for a while and not call him or involve him in any discussion for the time being because it's not the case.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I didn't read that part about the numbers , all i know is that we both have the same destiny number , meaning 8 . Our dates of birth add up to the same number , though we're not born the same day. i'm on 3.07.1987 and he's 16.03.1987 , that's pretty weird.

I'm pretty sure there are 39 birthdays a year that would give that number. That's a 10.7% chance that any guy in your class/year would have the same number as you. Not that weird or statistically unlikely. Are you, by any chance, 'looking' for reasons to confirm a pre-conceived notion?

It's true i might do some proojecting

Doesn't sound like 'might' from here.

but i've done because i have dreamt him very often, even if for long periods of time i had't interacted with him.

Check "Yes, but" in the cass glossary.

He told me he hadn't dreamed me at all so at a certain point i can see he doesn't see our relationship as a path to a greater personal growth. It's quite hard though, because he's not into esoterism and he seems not want to use his psychic powers at the benefit of our community or at least for his family. He's very secluded in his own world there and after i talked to other people they told me he might be some sort of schizoid ( i reeally hope he's not a psychopatic one). I'll try to detach myself for a while and not call him or involve him in any discussion for the time being because it's not the case.

It'll help if you try to identify the mental tricks your mind plays on you to convince you he's something he's not, or that you're something for him that you're not. Not saying it's easy, but you still seem to be grasping at straws for why this guy is your soul mate.

 

[RyanX]

He even left me the impression i was the only one he had it with but again , this might be well another trap so that he maintains my fairytale scenario of him. Why bother? He knew for the time being that i had some other realationships but none was as intense as this one.( mainly because this one dates back in our teenage years ) Is it any escape from these dillusions because it's very hard to cope with and accept i've been trapped ...That he acted as a predator in the relationship ...

Well, it could be true that you were the only one he was with. He could've picked up on your desperation and gone out with you simply because you wanted it so much, and he could get something out of it as well. So even if he is not a predator in the extreme sense (like a psychopath), he essentially acted as one, using you for his own purposes while letting you project a fantasy onto him. Have you read Unholy Hungers? That might be the one to start with if you haven't read any of the 5 narcissism books we recommend.

psychic_spy,

FWIW, I think what AI mentioned here about reading Unholy Hungers is really good advise. I'm glad to hear you've started EE too! I think it may help you, over time, rise above these carnal urges which have distorted your thinking from what is Real, Spiritual, and True. There is nothing wrong with having sexual urges, but when they dominate one's thinking, then they become a problem. The question you posed to AI about "what was on [his] mind", implying sex, seems to indicate that you're somewhat obsessed with sex at the moment too.

Really, it sounds like you've worked yourself into a maze. You've confused sexual urges with spiritual feeling. Spiritual feeling is a small voice, a small feeling in most of us, especially in the beginning. It is something that you hear when your mind and heart are calm or in great need, not when they are saturated with the clamor of sex hormones. Then you've taken this illusion of mating-sex-as-spiritual to the next level by projecting the idea that this guy, Victor, that you're sexually fixated on, is somehow a lofty spiritual character. There is no way you could possibly know this from the interactions you've described having with this person. Just because you think he is the One, does not make it so; in fact there's nothing in what you've written so far to suggest that, and much that speaks against it.

Also, throwing yourself at men isn't just unflattering, it is dangerous for you. I know the perverts who pass for psychologists in Western culture would probably say otherwise, but it really is. You might feel an incredible urge to mate at your age, but this is going to backfire if you don't get serious about how you choose your partners. Predators seek desperate women -- and it's only a matter of time before you run into a nasty one.

I think others have reported a calming in sexual urges after starting the EE breathing program -- I know this was certainly true in my case. I think continuing with EE would be a very good thing!

 

[psychic_spy]

Hi, thought I'd chip into this thread.

pyschic_spy, it might be possible that what makes you think he is like your polar opposite or soulmate is because he has a sense of mystery around him(atleast from your point of view) and you havent yet pinned him down interms of who he is as a person?? And maybe you are the sort of person that is attracted to the mysterious and as he happens to be a mysterious person, you have made him into your polar opposite atleast in your mind?

Yes , this is true , i'm quite atteacted to mystery and to persons who convey it , at least in the beginning but i don't like it to become a habit of avoiding things and taking the aspect of dishonesty.
I have to mention though that i'm not soo obsessed with the fact he might be a Polar Opposite. I just thought about it after i read it in Mouravieff's text but i took it as an option. It's good for me as long as it dispells my illusions about this guy...

It might be possible and in my opinion a very cruel thing, if for example, it wasnt him wallowing in self-denial and lies but you(atleast in the sense of you 2 being polar opposites)... It might be possible that he is right and you are wrong. How can you know for certain either way but I think you might have only seriously considered your point of view and disregarded his because of your 'projecting.' Maybe that is why it might be advisable to take a step back...

From what I understand about Polar Opposites, it's not about possession and it might be that you are trying to possess him like somekind of commodity or item.

I agree on it, i also think i'm maybe a little inexperienced and can't, at least at this stage or at the stage of a relationship in its infancy, to take everything with absolutely no sense of possesion.But this doesn't mean that i take him as an item or as a commodity. I don't expect him to serve me entirely, i just wanted to get close to him and as long as he told me he's attracted to me but not attracted to the idea of a serious , long lasting relationship. So basically he wanted a sex oriented relationship with a whiff of friendlyness and at this extent i was fine with it, but things complicated because he seems to not know his needs about many things , he confuses emotions telling me '' yeah , we are pals but there's no passion between us'' although i perceived it as a passionate affair after we were more intimately involved and at that point he also gave signs of jealousy and concern for me. But one day he says something and then he gravely changes his mind which makes him confusing and some sort of manipulating. I cannot trust him as a friend as long as he behaves as a lover. He lied in the first place , tellling me he had once a girlfriend and then denying he ever had one ( being a virgin) so that made everything shaky. He wanted to take things slow when we first dated and then he invited me to sleep over, making innuendos about it. Yeah , i can say i'm confused but i've distanced now and i'm willing to give him another chance if he appears by accident in my life , provided there is a divine logic at work.. That's why i assumed we could be polar opposites after reading that part but i recognize is just an asumption , not a firm rooted belief.

 

[luke wilson]

Hi, glad to hear you are not obsessed!

He lied in the first place , tellling me he had once a girlfriend and then denying he ever had one ( being a virgin) so that made everything shaky.

I hope this doesnt confuse the matter... I know because I have been guilty of this, but if you are a guy and a girl asks you this question and you have never had sex let alone a girlfriend, it is very easy to lie and just invent a safe number, lets say, 1.

Which leads to the 2nd half of your statement. Maybe after spending more time with you and feeling more comfortable he might come out and start saying the truth. Because he feels safer now as oppossed to before...

Atleast that is how I would have done it... Or, he is a schizoid(dont know what that means but I know it means someone is pathological in the head) and he is simply playing you and he happens to be very good at playing this game.. Which would bring up the question, why did he give you the impression of being, in-experienced..I would have thought the more you play, the better you become.

I think the most likely case is, he has no idea about anything!! He was basically swimming out of his depth... That doesnt mean that he might not be schizoid-like underneath who just got presented with an opportunity....

but i've distanced now

I think this is a good decision. But I also think incase of this:

i'm willing to give him another chance if he appears by accident in my life

which might happen seeing you live in the same town, you shouldnt just go jumping in. It might be, that he knows what you think of him, how 'desperate' you are and at some point he might come back and tell you everything you want to hear(because you have pretty much told him what you want to hear) so as to have a relationship with you under false pretenses... Caution is advised!!!

Btw, I am busy punching above my weight here interms of giving my advise and views so you should look for collaboration from other people about this whole situation like you've been doing...

 

[psychic_spy]

[FWIW, I think what AI mentioned here about reading Unholy Hungers is really good advise. I'm glad to hear you've started EE too! I think it may help you, over time, rise above these carnal urges which have distorted your thinking from what is Real, Spiritual, and True. There is nothing wrong with having sexual urges, but when they dominate one's thinking, then they become a problem. The question you posed to AI about "what was on [his] mind", implying sex, seems to indicate that you're somewhat obsessed with sex at the moment too.

How can you tell that ''those carnal urges'' have distorted my thinking since i can see , i have always taken into acount many sides and many options that i can act upon this situation. What is Real , Spiritual and True in this case , i was was sexually aware at age of 5 , at 12-13 years i had been reading books about sex and sex magic but only last year i started having sexual affairs. So i don't consider myself incappacitated because of too much inflamming my mind.


Really, it sounds like you've worked yourself into a maze. You've confused sexual urges with spiritual feeling. Spiritual feeling is a small voice, a small feeling in most of us, especially in the beginning. It is something that you hear when your mind and heart are calm or in great need, not when they are saturated with the clamor of sex hormones. Then you've taken this illusion of mating-sex-as-spiritual to the next level by projecting the idea that this guy, Victor, that you're sexually fixated on, is somehow a lofty spiritual character. There is no way you could possibly know this from the interactions you've described having with this person. Just because you think he is the One, does not make it so; in fact there's nothing in what you've written so far to suggest that, and much that speaks against it.


I thought eroticism also implies spiritual feeling, of course when there's more bonding with the partner. But finding the right partner takes long and i didn't consider that i should inadvertently stiffle those urges untill i intellectualy and emotionally find one more adequate. Or maybe i just can't , at one point i let go, it was also done out of curiosity, i was curios about the sex act and the way it would affect me. The first time it was wonderfull cause i didn't love the guy , and i had nothing in common with him and for a couple of days i was very energetic and calm and inspired to a certain extent ( would you say i eas gratified and that was it or i was enthusiastic because my energies were raised after i passed through this experience?) but with Victor i was involved from the start, from 7th grade when we were classmates and he avowed he loved me and affirmed that untill highschool when he moved in another class. So there's a gap of 10 years ( the time when i was having reccurent but not frequent dreams) before we met again and get to know better and at a different level.


Also, throwing yourself at men isn't just unflattering, it is dangerous for you. I know the perverts who pass for psychologists in Western culture would probably say otherwise, but it really is. You might feel an incredible urge to mate at your age, but this is going to backfire if you don't get serious about how you choose your partners. Predators seek desperate women -- and it's only a matter of time before you run into a nasty one.

I think others have reported a calming in sexual urges after starting the EE breathing program -- I know this was certainly true in my case. I think continuing with EE would be a very good thing!

If you read what i have written in this post you will discover i 'm not the kind who throws herself at men. I plan a lot in advance and don't get involve if i don't get in terms about certain things with the ones i meet.
Im 23 and i have urges since i was very little, it's true they got more powerfull in my teens but i don't consider that affected my judgement in my choice of partners. I had a 4 years virtual bond with a guy whom i hadn't met but 2 times in my life in the real plane and who was a psychopat. He was a nasty one , but not as nasty as victor( now i'm being subjective) , Now i hope to know better and avoid dubious entaglements but if you're unlucky you can meet them anyway..
I hope that reading and being informed about it will help me , discerning better and i would ask you to apologize because you're answear seemed a little bit harsh ..

 

[psychic_spy]

Oh dear , now i notice i mixed up some of my answears between quotings ...I'm not used to post on a forum. If you read the previous post, look closely at the citation.

 

[psychic_spy]

Hi, glad to hear you are not obsessed!

He lied in the first place , tellling me he had once a girlfriend and then denying he ever had one ( being a virgin) so that made everything shaky.

I hope this doesnt confuse the matter... I know because I have been guilty of this, but if you are a guy and a girl asks you this question and you have never had sex let alone a girlfriend, it is very easy to lie and just invent a safe number, lets say, 1.

Which leads to the 2nd half of your statement. Maybe after spending more time with you and feeling more comfortable he might come out and start saying the truth. Because he feels safer now as oppossed to before...

Atleast that is how I would have done it... Or, he is a schizoid(dont know what that means but I know it means someone is pathological in the head) and he is simply playing you and he happens to be very good at playing this game.. Which would bring up the question, why did he give you the impression of being, in-experienced..I would have thought the more you play, the better you become.

I think the most likely case is, he has no idea about anything!! He was basically swimming out of his depth... That doesnt mean that he might not be schizoid-like underneath who just got presented with an opportunity....

He asked me first , whether i was or not and after he found out he adjusted the answer..No ideea why he had done that but while dating me and getting to know me he gave ounces of truth , letting me know i was the first and analysing this situation i could say he seemed a bit clumsy and inexperienced but it's hard to tell that ..it's very subjective. The first guy i have slept with told me i was better than any girlfriend he had and didn't belive me when i said it was my first time ..so it's indeed very tricky.
It depends on the partner not on the quantity of experiences '' the more you play , the better you become at it'' . MAYBE the better you play in your mind gets you through.. :)

 

[RyanX]

How can you tell that ''those carnal urges'' have distorted my thinking since i can see , i have always taken into acount many sides and many options that i can act upon this situation. What is Real , Spiritual and True in this case , i was was sexually aware at age of 5 , at 12-13 years i had been reading books about sex and sex magic but only last year i started having sexual affairs. So i don't consider myself incappacitated because of too much inflamming my mind.

How would you know if something is affecting the way you think by using your own way of thinking? Does a depressed person know that he/she is depressed? Most often don't unless they are told by another qualified person or group of people.

Also, being obsessed with sex does not necessarily imply having sex. I've known plenty of men who have almost nil for a real sex life, but are essentially addicted to sex in one form or another.

I thought eroticism also implies spiritual feeling, of course when there's more bonding with the partner. But finding the right partner takes long and i didn't consider that i should inadvertently stiffle those urges untill i intellectualy and emotionally find one more adequate. Or maybe i just can't , at one point i let go, it was also done out of curiosity, i was curios about the sex act and the way it would affect me. The first time it was wonderfull cause i didn't love the guy , and i had nothing in common with him and for a couple of days i was very energetic and calm and inspired to a certain extent ( would you say i eas gratified and that was it or i was enthusiastic because my energies were raised after i passed through this experience?) but with Victor i was involved from the start, from 7th grade when we were classmates and he avowed he loved me and affirmed that untill highschool when he moved in another class. So there's a gap of 10 years ( the time when i was having reccurent but not frequent dreams) before we met again and get to know better and at a different level.

These feelings and sensations that you describe are not the result of a spiritual experience, they are primarily chemical in nature. At least that is how it seems based on your description.

Dreams are often a component of love-bite setups. They tap into our existing belief systems to hook us into relationships that lead to misery. Dreams can also be a confirmation of a wise choice too. Discerning the difference is not always easy using our own way of thinking.

Also, throwing yourself at men isn't just unflattering, it is dangerous for you. I know the perverts who pass for psychologists in Western culture would probably say otherwise, but it really is. You might feel an incredible urge to mate at your age, but this is going to backfire if you don't get serious about how you choose your partners. Predators seek desperate women -- and it's only a matter of time before you run into a nasty one.

I think others have reported a calming in sexual urges after starting the EE breathing program -- I know this was certainly true in my case. I think continuing with EE would be a very good thing!

If you read what i have written in this post you will discover i 'm not the kind who throws herself at men. I plan a lot in advance and don't get involve if i don't get in terms about certain things with the ones i meet.
Im 23 and i have urges since i was very little, it's true they got more powerfull in my teens but i don't consider that affected my judgement in my choice of partners. I had a 4 years virtual bond with a guy whom i hadn't met but 2 times in my life in the real plane and who was a psychopat. He was a nasty one , but not as nasty as victor( now i'm being subjective) , Now i hope to know better and avoid dubious entaglements but if you're unlucky you can meet them anyway..
I hope that reading and being informed about it will help me , discerning better and i would ask you to apologize because you're answear seemed a little bit harsh ..

It doesn't sound like you throw yourself at a lot of guys, but in this case you threw yourself upon a guy who you perceived to be the 'One'. From reading your posts, it sounds like this Victor fellow was a little overtaken by your advances and then realized he could "get a piece", so to speak, so he lied and said what was necessary to get what he wanted and then left. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this though.

I apologize if my post seemed harsh, that was not my intention. How you described your behavior and your way of thinking towards this man is, at the least, concerning. I was just trying to point this out as others have on here as well.

If you're content seeing this guy as the One and content with your own beliefs about spirituality and sexuality, you're perfectly entitled to think this way. Most people on here are striving to conquer our own illusions and have come to the realization that they can't think about the way they think with the way they think. Some of us have also "been there, done that" and when we see others making the same mistakes we made, there is a sense of obligation to at least point this out -- even though it might have no affect on the outcome.

FWIW.

 

[psychic_spy]

Also, being obsessed with sex does not necessarily imply having sex. I've known plenty of men who have almost nil for a real sex life, but are essentially addicted to sex in one form or another.

You maybe right then , but at least i'm not a nymphomaniac.


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These feelings and sensations that you describe are not the result of a spiritual experience, they are primarily chemical in nature. At least that is how it seems based on your description.

Dreams are often a component of love-bite setups. They tap into our existing belief systems to hook us into relationships that lead to misery. Dreams can also be a confirmation of a wise choice too. Discerning the difference is not always easy using our own way of thinking.


I definitely knew something about erotic feeling before intellectualizing it. I couldn't at that time ..maybe some form of primar, raw erotic feeling stayed with me. And this is also something that fed my crush with this guy, but as far as you tell me it seems it doesn't do any good.
I think all we experience involves the chemicals in our body that go up to our brain and viceversa, and the spiritual dimension is quite relative. But as you say , we are left to discern..



It doesn't sound like you throw yourself at a lot of guys, but in this case you threw yourself upon a guy who you perceived to be the 'One'. From reading your posts, it sounds like this Victor fellow was a little overtaken by your advances and then realized he could "get a piece", so to speak, so he lied and said what was necessary to get what he wanted and then left. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this though.

I apologize if my post seemed harsh, that was not my intention. How you described your behavior and your way of thinking towards this man is, at the least, concerning. I was just trying to point this out as others have on here as well.

If you're content seeing this guy as the One and content with your own beliefs about spirituality and sexuality, you're perfectly entitled to think this way. Most people on here are striving to conquer our own illusions and have come to the realization that they can't think about the way they think with the way they think. Some of us have also "been there, done that" and when we see others making the same mistakes we made, there is a sense of obligation to at least point this out -- even though it might have no affect on the outcome.

Well, maybe i didn't quite expressed myself very accurate either ( i'm not a native speaker). I know i probably made myself misunderstood and as you say these things you quite reiterate Victor's perspective on this relationship. It's true he rejected me in the first place, thinking ''i'm desperate'' although he never gave a firm account of what desperate means. I didn't ask him to stay witjh me 24 hours or marry me, or call me and treat me as one of a kind. I said ''this is an opportunity to get to know me ( he was the one who ask for dates on a dating site!?) if you want to and maybe have fun , date , have sex ...'' it's all that i implied and forthe time being want in a relationship. I'm not prepared to get married and sacrifice everything for someone. HE's idea of a substantial, long lasting relationship is with the one soul mate whom he has never encountered and with whom will eventualy get married.
My idea is going out and get to know one guy i'm sexually and intellectually attracted and doing interesting things that involve our preferences, i'll decide on marriage when i'll be ready to have children otherwise i find it unimportant...

Yeah, he got the ''piece'' but it was no trade involved cause i offered in the first place. What bothered me is that he was inconsistent most of the time , asking for my attention and tenderness and at the same time emphasizing ''not getting emotionally involved, or not expecting to much out of this'' since ''we're good friends but we lack passion ( he should have said the passion in my terms) and we should have also other experiences and and finally see our own life path'' . On this basis we broke up ( after i wrote him a 4 pages letter were i expressed my sense of disatisfaction about our interactions and feeling of ''going nowehere) or at least take a long break..

The lack of passion and incompatibility was brought up on the first ocasion i argued with him about he's way of spending time. He seemed to postpone a ''date'' accusing he had other things to do while he was just staying indoors , spending leisure time.
I left him alone , the i apologized for criticizing and he agreed to talk on chit-chat..and after my holiday in Greece he decided to give a try to the relationship provided i agree we separate if we get better ''opportunities''. That was the catch, not being too demanding or too eager about the whole thing but at the same time using all my potential to please him and be nice , friendly and sexually responsive.

I hope i threw enough light on this issue. This is what i call the functional part of a relationship. The deeper one is related with the way we feel subjectively in the presence of our partner. For me it was magical , passionate and pleasant because our games , sexual exploration and time spent satisfied my expectations for the time being and i thought it also did it for what he said he wanted. But after a while he implyed indirectly that other experiences will probably be better though he didn't refer to no one in particularly. He wasn't looking fors someone else as far as he told me but he encouraged me to do soif i find one more appealing. And this is what inflammed me the most , that he complained ''we are not sexual enough'' ( he could not maintain erection and stressed about it) and that is better to get someone else to play with ...Ouch.. so you see now? I assured him he's nr One , the One and evenif he's not i'm patient about it , i simply discovered i care about him in so many ways but i'm not yet sure he does ...he cannot figure out what he wants and needs and assumes that other experiences will help figuring it out...

 

[psychic_spy]

I don't like people lieying and i can tell for n miles when someone lies , both to me and to oneself. The part with Polar Opossites came to me after reading this but i reinforce i'm not obsessed about sustaing it at all costs. I probably rushed to post without further preparation and i excuse myself for doing it.
I just want do be informed and prepared in case one day i might accidentaly meet this guy again and be more Cautios or more Clear about what is going on.
This has happened me before with another guy and i made false assumptions about what was going on. So i just want to prevent that from happening.

 

[RyanX]

I don't like people lieying and i can tell for n miles when someone lies , both to me and to oneself. The part with Polar Opossites came to me after reading this but i reinforce i'm not obsessed about sustaing it at all costs. I probably rushed to post without further preparation and i excuse myself for doing it.
I just want do be informed and prepared in case one day i might accidentaly meet this guy again and be more Cautios or more Clear about what is going on.
This has happened me before with another guy and i made false assumptions about what was going on. So i just want to prevent that from happening.

Understood. There's nothing wrong with exploring new ideas and trying to understand them and relate them to what you've experienced. Sometimes we make mistakes and misjudge people. Sometimes it's the concept and terminology that's confusing. The best we can do is learn from our mistakes and try to get to the bottom of the subconscious dynamics that lead to those mistakes. This is where the Work becomes important.

As others have stated, the best way to prepare to meet your Polar Opposite would be to continue to Work on yourself. Prepare yourself by removing programs and other garbage so that you can give to others. At that point maybe you'll be able to recognize your Polar Opposite. Prior to the Work, you will likely receive only reflections of your own subconsicous in your mates.

I think Laura rhetorically asked this question in another thread (can't find it offhand), but what if your partner was injured in a car accident that prevented him or her from having sex, would there still be enough of a relationship there to hold you two together? If there isn't, then it's unlikely the person was ever your Polar Opposite. This goes for both ways, for you and your partner.

 

[psychic_spy]

I think Laura rhetorically asked this question in another thread (can't find it offhand), but what if your partner was injured in a car accident that prevented him or her from having sex, would there still be enough of a relationship there to hold you two together? If there isn't, then it's unlikely the person was ever your Polar Opposite. This goes for both ways, for you and your partner.

I thought about it. When you really love someone you think it may be possible to stay with him/her forever, in spite of any physical disability. I imagined myself in this situation and where i'm called to to preserve that kind of loyalty for as long as that person needs and wants, even if that means not getting anyone else and refusing other proposals so that i devote myself to the One. But i'm still pondering over the fact that such a man will not agree himself to be served like that without being able to fufill the same task.

And yet, on a more profound level i ask myself whether Victor didn't somehow acknowledge that he cannot work on himself and at the same time work on the relationship with me. And as far as i'm concerned , at this stage i'm not very good at , either. So this is what lessens my pain and make preserve my hope.

 

[anart]

Since this discussion has gone considerably off topic from Gnosis, it has been moved to its own thread.

Psychic Spy, it seems fairly obvious that you're taking illusion for reality with this guy and as long as you continue to do that, you can expect more of the same from him. If you keep doing what you always did, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten.

 

[psychic_spy]

Since this discussion has gone considerably off topic from Gnosis, it has been moved to its own thread.

Psychic Spy, it seems fairly obvious that you're taking illusion for reality with this guy and as long as you continue to do that, you can expect more of the same from him. If you keep doing what you always did, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten.

I stopped , we're separated and i try to overcome this experience and concentrate on other tasks. I have a lot of work to do too , have my exam session on Russian culture.. I started EE and it's just today that i started to master it a bit though it happened while smoking :/. I really hope i will overcome my difficulties with Russian linguistics too, i can hardly concentrate on these exams and translations for the time being since i have a lot of gaps from the previous years. It seems everytime i want to put myself to study, something diifferent deviates my attention from what i had to do..