I think that the most important thing to consider lays in the main definition of the Organic Portal. They do not have higher centers. Souled people have higher centers.
Higher centers are connections to the higher self. And at the same time to a certain way of being, a knowledge hidden in the more subconscious part of ourselves and makes a specific bridge opening for inputs from our higher selves that help us to recognize our position in the world and our daily life regarding the spiritual reality and our souls.
Let say about the idea of the Soul Group (in this example, I mean Soul Group as the group of the souled beings in unity that all humanity was before the fall):
Souled Human: that individual, when he will be asked, for instance: "Do you believe that people around the world create or should recreate the bigger human spirit through cooperation and love between themselves?" Or something like that...
The souled human type will answer that yes, we should work on the self to be a good person. He will proclaim that this is a crucial thing to create a healthy environment and society, with the law and other services that allow for growing up and allow people to develop on the path chosen by themselves.
The souled human will create some abstractions about the more spiritual world, some try to grasp the ideas about the big soul that is over him and everyone else that he and other people, commonly creating it. He will
intuitively read all the indications that contain ideas about unity, love, cooperation as the good ones and be compatible to make some abstractive thinking describing the certain higher way of existence in the more spiritual world.
*Let me underline that when I say about Souled Human, I assume that this is a healthy individual and do not lose all these features that characterized souled human beings.
So, now the Organic Portal:
For such individuals, such a question. Maybe I rewrite it: "Do you believe that people around the world create or should recreate the bigger human spirit through cooperation and love between themselves?".
Well, for the organic portal, it could be rocket science to think about it. If they were cows, cats, dogs in the previous incarnation, and the consciousness that now was put into the human body, such consciousness that knows only the material part of the life might be absolutely insensitive to such higher ideas.
They may say something like that: "Higher soul, like a cloud? What? Clouds I have in the sky
I do not see any reason or evidence of the existence of some higher soul group or whatever." They may simple, do not catch it. They can don't have any kind of inner qualities that will allow them to see some sense in such things.
At the question about empathy: "Do you can hurt another human being for your benefits or benefits of somebody from your group if you do not meet any consequence because of doing this bad thing?". The normal souled being will definitely be against any kind of such an act. It will be against the cored views on human life and life of others. For Organic Portals and damaged souled (if we can call them like that), individuals will answer such question with "yes".
Generally, from what I learn until now the main thing about the Organic Portals is like that that they are unable to create in their mind ideas, conceptions, the meaning of something such abstractive like the existence of some higher Soul Group (or something like that), because their connections to the primitive and vivid physicality, their intellectual centers are weaker and works differently. And the second thing is the lack of empathy. If they find themselves in the situation of the advantage over others, they will able to do evil things for the benefit of the self or the group they are creating and are dependent on them. Their empathy could be reduced even to zero if certain conditions will happen.
Of course, this what I wrote is not any hard evidence that by asking such questions and analyzing the answers in the way I did is confirmation that we talk with the Organic Portal. Still, these are symptoms that we talk to somebody, who is warped spiritually and probably is Organic Portal or damaged Souled Being.
It was a bit off-topic. However, the topic of the Organic Portal and Souled Being are indirectly related to the main question in this thread.
However, if I have to, directly, answer the question:
"At what stage of pregnancy a reincarnating soul descends into a new body?"
I would answer like that: I remember that when I was very young, it was a time when I was learning how to move, yet I can't stay and walk like a normal human being, and while the other children walk crawling, I developed an absolutely new technique. It was something like that that I sit on my butt, one leg I had collapsed, which was giving me the additional stability that I need to keep myself stable on my but, and the second leg I use to repel myself. And It was something funny and very interesting in the eyes of my parents, I was quite more effective and speedy than other babes
And what is interesting is that that I remember it now, but I was 6-12 months old then, and shouldn't remember it
And what is also interesting is that I do not have too many memories from that times, but I have flashes of these specific moments in my life when I had learned and used this technique.
What was characteristic of this event:
- I was doing something absolutely
creative,
- I
remember it when I shouldn't remember it,
- It was related to the
intentional influence of my behavior with particular
conscious suffering in this process,
So, everything of these is related to the consciousness and these parts in the body of a very young man that can be connected to the conscious mind and some "drafts"/beginning of the growing system 2.
Summarising: Taking into account my experiences. The moment of the soul incubation/descend in my life happened probably in early childhood, and the reason for claiming it lays in the observations of my parents, grandparents who were seeing the first signs of behavior that in their evaluation look like the creative and positive in nature (do not damage me or others and making my life easier).
I think that soul incubation does not necessarily start with the pregnancy, but can. I think, that it could be possible that for some individuals it will be in some advanced stages of pregnancy. For other first months of life. Yet for others, they can be the early years of life. Maybe in certain cases, the soul descends in the 20s or 30th years of their life.
