Questions to aid the Great Work

[Muxel]

The Great Work to be performed on the self can be reduced to a science, I think. While individual differences reign, the 'strait and narrow' road is much the same for us all.

During the previous spate of very personal inquiries from regional FOTCM groups, as taxing as it was on the channeling process, the C's provided some valuable insights into the human condition. If only we could open such dialogue with the C's, I thought, but with more general application. Less "When will X get a girlfriend," more commentary on X's (and by loose extension, everybody's) psyche. 'No personal questions' does not mean that the Self ceases to be a subject in all future correspondence with the C's! And after all, the Great Work is the Science of the Self.

In the absence of any initiative from us the C's do not offer much beyond vaguely comforting pronouncements like "Help is on the way," "Do not lose heart." Well, there is one true bringer of lasting hope: knowledge. Knowledge that leads to action.

Bring on the 'personals', I say. But not as Joe Sixpack would, rather as Gurdjieff did.

 

[Laura]

If that is your perception/understanding/take on what I've been doing for 20 years, bud, you are in the WRONG BAR.

 

[cubbex]

Seriously Muxel? I know you are not new to this. Efforts have been made, it takes patience to read it, and patience to connect the dots which require double efforts. Put the puzzle together, use the philosopher stone, the magnetic center. Unification, love, and so on and so on.

I have been into finding the "quoted" words from the cs' just to see if some patterns come from it, and in the process I see that the cs' describe things in a way that gives us clues on things, from an angle we may never reach. But all depends on your efforts to educate the self in such matters, only then, some cs' responses make sooo much sense.

 

[Muxel]

Just to clarify, I don't mean we should start asking personal questions, but questions pertaining to our, for lack of better word, psychology as it manifests in various situations. Yes a lot of it is in the esoteric literature, but then everything asked in the sessions is presumably in some literature somewhere. Doesn't mean we can't further our understanding by including it among the topics.

 

[JonnyRadar]

Doesn't mean we can't further our understanding by including it among the topics.

There are, quite literally, REAMS of data on this forum about our "psychology as it manifests in various situations."

What would you include that in your perception hasn't been included already? If you feel like something's missing, it would be more constructive on your part to point out exactly what you're looking to find.

EDIT: Just to add...

In the absence of any initiative from us the C's do not offer much beyond vaguely comforting pronouncements like "Help is on the way," "Do not lose heart."

I mean this honestly - what makes you think that the Cs would offer anything beyond the result of Laura's, yours, or anyone else's initiative? Do you feel like they should just spoon-feed the answers without the questions having been grown out of the burning fire of initiative?

 

[Muxel]

My point was that it would be good to have the C's take on such things. In the couple of sessions where a lot of personal inquiries were made, there nevertheless were some good insights that possibly applied to many of us. This is a suggestion for a general direction and I do not know what questions would specifically be asked, nor what the C's responses would be. I am also not suggesting that entire sessions be devoted to this.

 

[cubbex]

But I think if they map out the work at 100% is a bit disrespectul for those who work their lives to achieve such work, it is not in balance so to say, to wait with a silver plate and a self entittled attitude who takes for granted, that just because the Great Work is possible, someone is obligued to give you answers that you can access by yourself.

And the answers are there, I mean, read the Wave, nobody offers the same type of infomation... for free!

 

[obyvatel]

Just to clarify, I don't mean we should start asking personal questions, but questions pertaining to our, for lack of better word, psychology as it manifests in various situations. Yes a lot of it is in the esoteric literature, but then everything asked in the sessions is presumably in some literature somewhere. Doesn't mean we can't further our understanding by including it among the topics.

If you are interested in the topics of psychology and Work, maybe you can start by participating in discussions on the Work and Psychology boards?

If you have any specific question or issues that bother you, maybe you can ask in your existing Swamp thread or elsewhere?

The attitude of "let there be personal questions asked of the C's and I will learn from the answers given" does not seem like an optimal way to learn about these topics to me. One learns through active participation and resulting experiences.

 

[Muxel]

Hi Prometeo and Obyvatel,

What I meant by my first post was, questions posed to the C's in the vein of psychology/Work - as a science in itself - might be a fruitful course of action. I think it was construed as my advocating for personal inquiries during the sessions, when that was not the case. I am fully aware of the Psychology boards. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

 

[luke wilson]

On a different subject, how are things with you Muxel? I cant help but notice you fell of the radar for awhile! I hope you got the type of job you wanted and all turned out well with your parents and sister. :)

 

[obyvatel]

Hi Prometeo and Obyvatel,

What I meant by my first post was, questions posed to the C's in the vein of psychology/Work - as a science in itself - might be a fruitful course of action. I think it was construed as my advocating for personal inquiries during the sessions, when that was not the case.

That was not my point. You are advocating what you consider as a potentially fruitful course of action by asking the C's questions related to Work and psychology. My question/suggestion to you was could you come up with and ask related questions to this network? It was fairly straight forward - osit - but it is interesting that you chose to bypass it entirely and took the route of "being misunderstood".

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I am fully aware of the Psychology boards.
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What about participation?

 

[Galaxia2002]

Muxel I realized the hard way and Laura pointed that in the past, that many answers to personal questions are not universal and should be taken carefully because remember that what C's gives is what it is asked adapted to the consciousness level and free will prerogative of the asker.

 

[cubbex]

Hi Prometeo and Obyvatel,

What I meant by my first post was, questions posed to the C's in the vein of psychology/Work - as a science in itself - might be a fruitful course of action. I think it was construed as my advocating for personal inquiries during the sessions, when that was not the case. I am fully aware of the Psychology boards. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Don't worry we won't nuke you. Another thing I thought which is in favor, I guess, of what obyvatel's point is, why to depend on the cs' if you already have a network of people well endorsed in like... everything. Just ask, maybe people got the answer you are looking for, and from there, active participation may give the whole network the answers for the Great work.

 

[Mikey]

Muxel, rather than posting a vague "we should do this!" idea, offloading work to others, you could have taken the initiative to post an actual question for the C's here.

 

[Muxel]

Hey Luke - Yeah I've been busy with work, did get the job after all, which is great! Things are ok with family, it is what it is. I noticed you've been backpacking, looks like you had a fantastic time there! Cheers