Questions to meditate to ...

[electrosonic]

While lying in bed before sleeping I often like to ponder on philosophical questions that help expand the mind. I'm sure there is a name for questions like these but I can't remember what it is.
Anyhow, these are some of the questions I've used since I was a kid, to help kick start a soul searching meditative state. Please tell me some of the ones you use, I'd love to hear them ...

What was Gods existence like before he/she/it created the universes and everything within it?

Who created God?

Try to imagine yourself not ever having existed ...

How can it be that space never ends ... how can anything never end?

Is it possible that everything you see/hear/feel is just a dream that you are creating - and you are, in fact, God?

What happens when all of creation finally finds its way back to God? Do we all just do it all over again?

Is God just one of many, and himself just a small part of another God, who is in turn a small part of another God , ad infinitum ....

Are all atoms just minature solar systems ... and do they have life forms living on them? And do those life forms comprise of atoms, who are just minature solar systems ....

 

[Zee Ley]

Hi electrosonic

Please tell me some of the ones you use, I'd love to hear them ...

Just because you are asking:)

In general those are the questions about time. The English is not the language I normally think. So I'll try to rephrase.
Quite frequently in the speech we can hear the word combination "time is passing...", "time is running out...". If that is true than we have to hurry because we are risking to loose it.

But why it's passing, how is it moving and where is it going? And the most important thing:) why sometimes while the time flows away we feel ourselves intact?

 

[rymw]

While lying in bed before sleeping I often like to ponder on philosophical questions that help expand the mind. I'm sure there is a name for questions like these but I can't remember what it is.
Anyhow, these are some of the questions I've used since I was a kid, to help kick start a soul searching meditative state. Please tell me some of the ones you use, I'd love to hear them ...

What was Gods existence like before he/she/it created the universes and everything within it?

Who created God?

Try to imagine yourself not ever having existed ...

How can it be that space never ends ... how can anything never end?

Is it possible that everything you see/hear/feel is just a dream that you are creating - and you are, in fact, God?

What happens when all of creation finally finds its way back to God? Do we all just do it all over again?

Is God just one of many, and himself just a small part of another God, who is in turn a small part of another God , ad infinitum ....

Are all atoms just minature solar systems ... and do they have life forms living on them? And do those life forms comprise of atoms, who are just minature solar systems ....

hi electrosonic

i believe the word you're looking for is "musings'

I too meditate almost nightly while in bed waiting for slumber to take over. I used to meditate ala Bhuddist with a blank mind and focus on the solar plexus but gone are those days although it did help me recover from a debilitating spate of illness. These days I concentrate more on Prime Creator, DCM and the Universe in my bedtime meditation after reciting POTS. I find it helps me deal better with the current ordeals all around me, which includes being made redundant almost 3 years ago. I'm not so much asking for instant answers as in asking our creators to help me find my way around all the trials and tribulations, while working towards the grand cycle closing. Just my 2 cents worth :)

 

[lilyalic]

"time is passing...", "time is running out...". If that is true than we have to hurry because we are risking to loose it.

But why it's passing, how is it moving and where is it going? And the most important thing:) why sometimes while the time flows away we feel ourselves intact?

Laura asked upon the concept of time to the C's, and they just kept replying "time does NOT exist, it's an illusion" basically

Q: (L) But I thought that time perception was an illusion?

A: YOUR perception of it is an illusion. Remember the example of the dogs and cats riding in a car?

Q: (L) Yes. Ouspensky and the horse. So, time, as an essential thing, DOES exist?

A: But not as you know it. When we refer to "timelessness," we are speaking from the standpoint of your familiarity only.

Q: (L) Does time then exist, and does space have a limit?

A: You are getting confused because your inborn linear perception is clouding the image your efforts are trying to produce.

Q: (A) Is time multi-dimensional? If so, is it three- dimensional?

A: Not correct concept. Time is not a dimension. This is very complex from your standpoint, but let us just say that time is "selective," or "variable."

 

[electrosonic]

hi electrosonic

i believe the word you're looking for is "musings'

I too meditate almost nightly while in bed waiting for slumber to take over. I used to meditate ala Bhuddist with a blank mind and focus on the solar plexus but gone are those days although it did help me recover from a debilitating spate of illness. These days I concentrate more on Prime Creator, DCM and the Universe in my bedtime meditation after reciting POTS. I find it helps me deal better with the current ordeals all around me, which includes being made redundant almost 3 years ago. I'm not so much asking for instant answers as in asking our creators to help me find my way around all the trials and tribulations, while working towards the grand cycle closing. Just my 2 cents worth :)

I still use the blank mind method, and have had some fantastic results & insights that way. I think a lot of people equate having a blank mind with 'zombiefying' yourself, whereas in reality, when you do it properly you can bypass the mind entirely and experience pure consciousness.
I thoroughly recommend it.

 

[Zee Ley]

lilyalic,

From the excerpts it seems that only our 3d perception of time is illusion but not the Time per se.

P. S. With all these rescent posts regarding Time its quite symbolical that today I've watched "Interstellar"

 

[rymw]

hi electrosonic

i believe the word you're looking for is "musings'

I too meditate almost nightly while in bed waiting for slumber to take over. I used to meditate ala Bhuddist with a blank mind and focus on the solar plexus but gone are those days although it did help me recover from a debilitating spate of illness. These days I concentrate more on Prime Creator, DCM and the Universe in my bedtime meditation after reciting POTS. I find it helps me deal better with the current ordeals all around me, which includes being made redundant almost 3 years ago. I'm not so much asking for instant answers as in asking our creators to help me find my way around all the trials and tribulations, while working towards the grand cycle closing. Just my 2 cents worth :)

I still use the blank mind method, and have had some fantastic results & insights that way. I think a lot of people equate having a blank mind with 'zombiefying' yourself, whereas in reality, when you do it properly you can bypass the mind entirely and experience pure consciousness.
I thoroughly recommend it.

Oh yes, there are benefits in it; as I've said it helped me recuperate from a state of extremely weakened health after a spate of illness more than a decade ago. Although never quite explained completely by the mystics, the real workings behind this method I believe is as mentioned by the C's; level 7 recharges the energy of 3D souled beings during sleep via the sexual (lower) chakras which is cored at the solar plexus. So when we meditate before sleep with blank mind-solar plexus focus, we are clearing out the blocked energies and mental/spiritual negativities, thus preparing our body for more effective recharging of energy/qi, which as you know does all kinds of wonders both physically and mentally :)
My contention is this way of meditating can be enhanced. Having done it for years, I've moved on to include POTS and our masters of Divine Creation with the blank mind-solar plexus method as a base. With experience, one can start out with that for just a minute of two to ground the meditation, so to speak and then mindfully concentrate on DCM, etc. And I truly believe that has brought me out of even binds and ordeals often when I was almost at my wits' end over the last few choppy years.

 

[lilyalic]

lilyalic,

From the excerpts it seems that only our 3d perception of time is illusion but not the Time per se.

P. S. With all these rescent posts regarding Time its quite symbolical that today I've watched "Interstellar"

Yeah I did some more reading about it, it seems that our "linear time" is an illusion, and it is our perception that IS the illusion.
it's like when the C's say "so and so time as you PERCEIVE it"

 

[lainey]

hi electrosonic

i believe the word you're looking for is "musings'

I too meditate almost nightly while in bed waiting for slumber to take over. I used to meditate ala Bhuddist with a blank mind and focus on the solar plexus but gone are those days although it did help me recover from a debilitating spate of illness. These days I concentrate more on Prime Creator, DCM and the Universe in my bedtime meditation after reciting POTS. I find it helps me deal better with the current ordeals all around me, which includes being made redundant almost 3 years ago. I'm not so much asking for instant answers as in asking our creators to help me find my way around all the trials and tribulations, while working towards the grand cycle closing. Just my 2 cents worth :)

I still use the blank mind method, and have had some fantastic results & insights that way. I think a lot of people equate having a blank mind with 'zombiefying' yourself, whereas in reality, when you do it properly you can bypass the mind entirely and experience pure consciousness.
I thoroughly recommend it.

When doing the work it is not recommended to use the blank mind method. Here is part of another thread http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36670.msg537161.html#msg537161 discussing the same topic:

From the EE guide:


Quote

The meditation is performed with “seed”, which means it is neither
mindless nor without aim. The seed, entitled “Prayer of the Soul”, has been carefully
composed to be unlimited in its application to life and to create a subconscious ground of
positive, life-affirming thoughts in your quieted mind. The prayer addresses the Divine
Cosmic Mind, which is existence in and of itself. If you wish to address the Divine Cosmic
Mind in terms more familiar such as Jesus, Buddha, Allah, Krishna etc. that is also fine.
Should a divine personification not be part of your outlook, you may even look to your own
“best self” as being addressed. The Prayer of the Soul is intended to be universally applicable
to all personal philosophies.

Session June 9, 2009 which is part of a series of sessions which eventually brought about the EE breathing technique (in Session June 20, 2009):



Quote from: Session June 9,2009


<snip>

(J) Back to breathing? (L) Yes. So, what do you think of this Kriya?

A: Great stuff, eh? Lighten up on the fluff though.

Q: (J) Would the fluff be... (Craig) The drumming?

A: Drumming is good and intense. There is too much "free time" in altered states.

Q: (J) Remember what I was saying yesterday about how there was too much time when we were just lying there and nothing was being said... that should be guided.

A: When you sweep the house and leave it clean if you do not decide what to put back in then others will do it.

Q: (Craig) Does that apply to this group, or the public in general?

A: Not this group. But definitely those who have not integrated consciousness. The breathing is a tool, a technique, and should be seen as such and not as the result.

Great work Palinurus! Here is Laura's input:

Some people ought to meditate one way, some people ought to meditate another way. Each individual has specific requirements as to type and duration of meditation. Every case is individual.

Meditation, taken in proper doses, along with "tuning the reading instrument", can certainly accelerate one's "progress."

There are two basic ways to meditate: with seed and without seed. That is, to have something to focus on, or to attempt to completely empty the mind. It is generally more productive to meditate with seed in the beginning. Depending on your "type" the "seed" will be different. If you are a visual person, holding a visual image in the mind works. If you are an auditory person, holding a phrase and "hearing" it in your mind works. If you are kinesthetic, holding a "feeling" or trying to achieve that feeling, works best.

Also, at the point when you begin to have some success in stilling the "chatter," you can experiment with changing the seed or combining. You might have a visual and auditory, or feeling and visual, or auditory and feeling, or all of them at once.

My personal preference is a phrase that I can also "see" as letters forming words that appear and dissolve. With this, I have both "thought content" as well as visual image and can easily add "feeling" and sound at will. I can also discard visual, auditory and feeling elements and simply concentrate on the "content."

Breathing is very important for a number of reasons. Very slow, controlled breathing with counting to start the process works very effectively. Breath in through the nose and out through the mouth. Once the breathing (that your are counting in order to regulate) becomes deep, slow and regular, then introduce either your phrase, visual image, or whatever you have selected as "seed." The breathing ought to continue as you have set it.

The object, in the beginning, is to set several tasks for your mind to focus on intently and to hold that focus for as long as you can. If your mind wanders and other thoughts come along, as soon as you realize that you have lost focus, just bring your mind back to the focus and don't get irritated that you have "lost your concentration." Most people can't focus on a single thing for longer than two or three minutes. That is why it is useful to begin with concentrating on the breathing and counting the breaths with the intention of setting up a specific depth and frequency. If you breath in for a count of 10, hold for a count of 5, breath out for a count of 10, and do this for at least 25 breaths in a row, you have achieved a respectable first step.

Another very useful technique is to find a poem or more lengthy quote to use as your breathing template AND "content."

For example, the so-called "Lord's Prayer" is very useful in this way.

Recite in your mind: Our Father Who art in Heaven ... on the in breath while holding in mind that the "kingdom of heaven, the "heavenly father" is the higher intellectual center ...

"Hallowed be thy Name...." on the outbreath while holding in mind that this is the part of you that is holy and which you desire to manifest through your self...

"Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done"... On the in breath while considering the fact that you wish to establish a link with your higher centers - the REAL you - via the magnetic center,

"On Earth as it is in heaven" on the out breath, contemplating the fact that once the magnetic center is formed that the will of the spirit, the "heavenly kingdom" can be brought into your life...

You don't have to do the whole prayer, the above is sufficient seed, but if you want to do the whole thing, I think you have the idea. You can visualize the words, consider the content, "feel" them, all the while the words themselves are acting as the "counter" for your breathing.

Some people can achieve very good results with very simple seed, other people require more complexity. Again, the point is to have something that you can focus on and to hold that focus intently. It is more or less an exercising of the Will and Intent, building a sort of "psychic muscle."

You may be surprised at the tenacity of the chatter and its resistance to this one-pointed focus.

I also found this part very interesting:

Laura also explained in the Eiriu Eolas thread:

Generally, when certain channels/circuits begin to clear and open, but are not yet tuned, all kinds of stuff gets picked up. It's like turning on a radio receiver or a TV that is "between stations" or receiving interference. You can see faces, hear sounds, experience all kinds of interdimensional stuff. The key is to not get distracted by that stuff. Keep your eyes and focus on the light/knowledge.

And generally, I think it is best to concentrate on your life in general, rather than on things that are complex and difficult to understand, and pretty much are beyond your direct grasp. It can be dangerous if you play with an idea you have little understanding and knowledge of.

This goes hand in hand with diet and health. In order to become the most effective transducing unit we must clean our machine, eat well, don't scramble the signal with drugs/alcohol, rid ourselves of bad habits that are a waste of energy.
I guess meditation helps to build willpower as well so the more we do it the better we are at focusing and we are more likely to put our energies into reading, exercising and contributing to SOTT and other projects.
As Laura said above, building our psychic muscle.

 

[electrosonic]

Well maybe so lainey ...

... and yet here we are exchanging ideas on a forum which owes much to a channeled source - and what are we told about attempting channeling?

Except that this channel dedicated her entire life to grooving the source, alongside using the fourth way & gathering knowledge to ensure she was less susceptible to corruption/interference.

So under the right circumstances, certain techniques or experiences could be beneficial?

Now back in my youth I suffered terribly from panic attacks & social phobias. But I was always determined to turn this experience for my benefit somehow. The turning point came when I first got hold of Carlos Castaneda's books, and learnt of the concept of inner silence.
So from there my task began - I was going to dedicate my life to achieving this state, and in so doing I wanted to learn what it is about my mind that created these fears & torments which had caused me years of suffering.

It took me nearly 20 yrs to achieve a state which completely side-stepped the mind (actually it was turning off my awareness of thought completely - hard to describe), and allowed me to feel pure consciousness. And along the way I think I've learned an awful lot about how the mind works, and how different states of awareness can influence/trigger certain thought patterns.

So, have I achieved anything worthwhile - I don't know.
Was it potentially dangerous - probably.

But I was born with a condition that was crippling my life, and at the time I was determined to use it to some advantage, and frankly, many times in my life I don't think I could of got much worse, so I was prepared to take the gamble.

So I still hold to the belief that achieving a pure state of non-awareness/inner silence/pure consciousness/second attention (however you wish to call it) has in my case done me more good than harm.

Would this be the case with anyone else? .... only you can decide.

 

[Phill4]

I want to add one thing i noticed in my meditation with seed, And it was my experience, the seed i had to meditate was an idea that didn't have a good foundation, it took me a while to understand in my early meditation exercises that my construct of God was some sort of bright light.


I didn't understand there that light is knowlesge and love. And the creator is everything.

Thoughts flowed better when the anticipation didn't get in the way of my head.


Anticipation is what I have found stops me from allowing my thoughts to "connect"...