Ruling us at 4th Density

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aaronfransen

Jedi Master
Numerous times it has been mentioned that one of the reasons for the world being the way it is, the way the Draconians/Lizards are pushing things, is so that when the time comes for us to transition to the 4th density, they will be able to rule us there.

I guess my question is: How? Some of what I understand about 4D is that "you make your own reality", so is this a case of the (would-be) overlords convincing us somehow that we are their subjects?

Clearly there are things about 4D we do not, and cannot, know until we get there, and the C's have emphasized this repeatedly. This round of networking we are doing (in this forum, and among other groups one would presume) is meant to prepare us for 4D and, should we individually so choose, become STO entities.

Does that mean that as an individual, if you have some knowledge of the man behind the proverbial curtain, you have the choice to not be ruled by them?

Can they force us to be 4D STS?
 
Lost Spirit said:
Numerous times it has been mentioned that one of the reasons for the world being the way it is, the way the Draconians/Lizards are pushing things, is so that when the time comes for us to transition to the 4th density, they will be able to rule us there.

I guess my question is: How? Some of what I understand about 4D is that "you make your own reality", so is this a case of the (would-be) overlords convincing us somehow that we are their subjects?

Clearly there are things about 4D we do not, and cannot, know until we get there, and the C's have emphasized this repeatedly. This round of networking we are doing (in this forum, and among other groups one would presume) is meant to prepare us for 4D and, should we individually so choose, become STO entities.

Does that mean that as an individual, if you have some knowledge of the man behind the proverbial curtain, you have the choice to not be ruled by them?

Can they force us to be 4D STS?
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According to the Cassiopaeans Free Will is one of the most important principle in the Universe and even Lizards are subjecting to that law. They can lie and manpulate but can't force us to choose service to self.

C's said about "1000 years" period just after transition where we and Lizards will be at the same level and some "battle" might happen about the fate and further way of development (STS or STO) of the group and individuals.
 
I understood it this way, that the grooming for 4D STS would start earlier, here in 3D. Then, when proceeding to 4th, hopefully (in the eyes of 4D STS) many would choose STS, and not STO.

It's not a good analogy, but somehow this scene from the Matrix comes to mind, when Neo and Co are brought in front of this Merovingian guy. He sits in a fancy restaurant, expensive food, beautiful women, obedient waiters and tries to strike a deal with them. Like, look at all this, you can have it (if you come into my world). Of course, Neo and Co don't take the bait.

And ... 4th STS have home turf-advantage with this, since 3D is STS already

M.T.
 
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Numerous times it has been mentioned that one of the reasons for the world being the way it is, the way the Draconians/Lizards are pushing things, is so that when the time comes for us to transition to the 4th density, they will be able to rule us there.

I guess my question is: How? Some of what I understand about 4D is that "you make your own reality", so is this a case of the (would-be) overlords convincing us somehow that we are their subjects?
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One way to look about it is to reflect on observations from our 3D world. How have imperialists and colonists ruled over vast populations, annexing territories, destroying or significantly modifying indigenous cultures etc. They are 3D and so are the people they rule.


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Does that mean that as an individual, if you have some knowledge of the man behind the proverbial curtain, you have the choice to not be ruled by them?

Can they force us to be 4D STS?
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Reflecting on 3D reality, it is possible to create an environment in which making certain choices becomes more difficult than others. As more denizens of a shared reality make certain choices, those choices become the default for that reality. It is possible to make choices different from the default choices - but it takes more effort and knowledge. An analogy would be swimming upstream vs downstream in a river.

Relevant in this context is scientist Rupert Sheldrake's "morphic and behavioral fields" wherein fields governing development and behavior are like "habits of nature", reinforced through repetition. I do not know if such considerations hold for a 4D reality - so fwiw.
 
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" Reflecting on 3D reality, it is possible to create an environment in which making certain choices becomes more difficult than others. As more denizens of a shared reality make certain choices, those choices become the default for that reality. It is possible to make choices different from the default choices - but it takes more effort and knowledge. An analogy would be swimming upstream vs downstream in a river.

Relevant in this context is scientist Rupert Sheldrake's "morphic and behavioral fields" wherein fields governing development and behavior are like "habits of nature", reinforced through repetition. I do not know if such considerations hold for a 4D reality - so fwiw. "
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Perhaps one of the ways in which the 4D STS would attempt to rule us will be the so-called "cashless society" in which one may not buy or sell unless they have "the mark of the beast in their palm or in their forehead": - that's from the Book of Revelations to John.
Hunger will certainly be a driving force for us poor 3D folk.

[As an interesting aside, when I typed 4D, I wrote $D, which gives me a clue representing money; and when I typed 3D, I typed #D, which gives me another clue representing hash or food.]
 
MusicMan said:
Perhaps one of the ways in which the 4D STS would attempt to rule us will be the so-called "cashless society" in which one may not buy or sell unless they have "the mark of the beast in their palm or in their forehead": - that's from the Book of Revelations to John.
Hunger will certainly be a driving force for us poor 3D folk.
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Any monetary system is a way to rule others, whether it uses cash, gold, implants, whatever. I don't like any of it at all, but I do see it as a necessity for the reality of our (undeniably STS oriented) world. It occurs to me that the necessity of a monetary system is STS in itself, and thus promotes the STS orientation of our reality. (I am really bad at putting my thoughts into words; I hope that I am conveying my thoughts clearly.)

BTW, hunger is discomfort, and we humans like to avoid discomfort in any form, and many times justify horrible actions to alleviate that discomfort. So, while many folks have fears at this time about microchips or RFIDs or whatever, I think if/when it happens, there will be far fewer people that "opt out" than anyone would guess at this time. Look at how conditioned we are already: internet banking, paypal, iPhone, visa, etc.

In short, I agree with obyvatel.
[quote author=obyvatel] Reflecting on 3D reality, it is possible to create an environment in which making certain choices becomes more difficult than others. As more denizens of a shared reality make certain choices, those choices become the default for that reality. It is possible to make choices different from the default choices - but it takes more effort and knowledge. An analogy would be swimming upstream vs downstream in a river.
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Lost Spirit said:
Numerous times it has been mentioned that one of the reasons for the world being the way it is, the way the Draconians/Lizards are pushing things, is so that when the time comes for us to transition to the 4th density, they will be able to rule us there.
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Here is a quote from Session October 24, 1994 which might help clarify your question:
"Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't they just move in and take over?
A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several things. 1: retaining their race as a viable species; 2: increasing their numbers; 3: increasing their power; 4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density. To do all of this they have been interfering with events for what you would measure on your calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all of this will fail.

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?
A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In other words, it's the highest manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level
and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be."
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I think this answers your other questions too.
 
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