Session 16 November 1994

Laura

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November 16, 1994

Frank and Laura


Q: (L) Hello.

A: Hello. How are you?

Q: (L) Well I guess we are fine this evening. Who do we have with us?

A: Roligea.

Q: (L) And where are you from?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) I have been reading recently about the shrine at Lourdes where the Virgin Mary supposedly appeared to Bernadette Soubirous...

A: Energy focusing center.

Q: (L) What kind of energy is focused there?

A: Positive due to consistent prayer patternings.

Q: (L) Okay, what appeared to Bernadette?

A: Imaging energy consciousness wave.

Q: (L) Was this image out of her own mind?

A: Close.

Q: (L) The healings that take place...

A: Because of the concentration of positive energy.

Q: (L) What or who has been causing the apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Conyers, Georgia?

A: Deceptive field.

Q: (L) What energy is behind this?

A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Why?

A: Confusion campaign part of bigger picture and plan.

Q: (L) What is the bigger picture and plan?

A: Conquest.

Q: (L) How will that aid their conquest?

A: By dispersing knowledge.

Q: (L) Dispersing as in breaking apart or scattering?

A: Spreading thin. Confusion does this. You are being bombarded with confusion in this era.

Q: (L) A__ had a dream where she saw some symbols and would like to know what the symbols represented in her dream.

A: One by one.

Q: (L) The first one:

A: Battle.

Q: (L) The second one?

A: Life force.

Q: (L) The third?

A: Spiritual union with higher planes.

Q: (L) The fourth?

A: Destruction.

Q: (L) The fifth one?

A: Fear.

Q: (L) What is the entire message?

A: Up to her to learn; remember if we tell you certain things you will not gain adequate protection for the time ahead.

Q: (L) I dreamed last night about a puppy belonging to my sister in law. As I was walking away in the dream, I turned back and saw a car run over the dog. It was quite graphic and I awoke very upset. What was the cause or purpose of this dream?

A: This one was not particularly pertinent.

Q: (L) Was it just a dream?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, relating to what we have been discussing lately. Did any groups of the black race, on their own, ever create a high civilization as has been reported by several archaeologists or other individuals.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) On their own without assistance?

A: No.

Q: (L) Who did they have assistance from?

A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Why have black people, in general, for most of recorded history, been living in such primitive conditions with such primitive mind set?

A: Isolation from modern interaction.

Q: (L) Why is this?

A: Karma. Punishment for past society which was cruel master hierarchical.

Q: (L) Are black people being abducted by the Lizzies as frequently as white people?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why do we hear so little, if any, about this?

A: You hear little of black culture in general.

Q: (L) Are black people, within their cultural confines, aware of aliens and alien abductions?

A: Less aware and discuss it less.

Q: (L) We are aware that we are being manipulated by the media. We would like to know what types of methods do they use and what is their objective?

A: More precise.

Q: (L) What kind of technical means do they use to project mental manipulation by way of TV or movies?

A: Simple bombardment visual and verbal.

Q: (L) Do they use subliminal implantation of ideas?

A: Not needed most often.

Q: (L) The music that kids listen to, is there any effort to program them in this media?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they use subliminals?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they use electronic signals?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they use electronic signals on television programming?

A: Have but not that often.

Q: (L) Is there any signal being sent over the test of the emergency broadcast signal?

A: No.

Q: (L) If the Lizzies have been feeding off of us frequently and are planning to come and take over our planet, why, when they achieved their domination 300,000 years ago, did they not just move here and take up residence and be in charge?

A: No desire to inhabit same realm.

Q: (L) Why was this?

A: You are 3rd level they are 4th level.

Q: (L) Why are they planning to now?

A: They want to rule you in 4th density.

Q: (L) If the mother planet that the human race was seeded on originally, is burned up, or turned into a cinder, I would like to know how it burned up?

A: Star expanded.

Q: (L) Well, if the star expanded, it must have expanded recently, is that correct?

A: Time does not measure that way in that realm.

Q: (L) What realm is that?

A: Time/space warp.

Q: (L) What do you mean by a time/space warp?

A: Too complicated but you already have some understanding of concept.

Q: (L) So, the star expanded and the mother planet was turned into a cinder. If this was the case, it means that it must have turned into a cinder very close to the point, using time loosely, when human beings were created?

A: You can't even use it loosely.

Q: (L) Would you help me out here. I'm trying to figure out why, if that planet was turned into a cinder, why were human beings seeded there... what was the point in being brought into being on a planet that was very shortly to become a cinder... a crispy critter...

A: Okay. Now: "Shocker" For you. It hasn't become a cinder yet.

Q: (L) Okay. What is it. You told us it was a cinder... burned up... what is the real story here?

A: It will be at the same "time" that you go to 4th density. The human race is currently being formed on D'Ahnkiar.

Q: (L) What do you mean that the human race is currently being formed on that planet? Is that because that planet is this planet?

A: No. That closes realm grand cycle.

Q: (L) Are you saying that there are human beings being created on that planet at this current time...

A: Yes, you are. Your race is forming there.

Q: (L) How?

A: Realm crossing understand?

Q: (L) Are you saying that there are 4th density bodies being formed there...

A: No. 3rd.

Q: (L) There are 3rd density bodies... are we going to leave the bodies we are in and go into other bodies?

A: You are drifting... Think carefully. Realm is derivative of reality. Cycle.

Q: (L) So the human race is being formed on this other planet at the present time...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And at the time of the realm border crossing, this other planet will then become cindered... burned up...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where will the human beings go that are being formed on that planet at the time of the realm border crossing?

A: Ancient earth.

Q: (L) They will go to ancient earth?

A: There is no time as you know it; its all just lessons for the collective consciousness.

Q: (L) So at the closing of this grand cycle everything will just start all over again?

A: Not exactly; you see, there is no start.

Q: (L) Are a lot of souls on the earth going to recycle into these new bodies coming onto the earth?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) As ancient mankind?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And do the whole thing all over again?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, a lot of people are going back to square one?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is this punishment.

A: No. Nature.

Q: (L) Are some of the souls, at that point, going to move into a higher density level?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could you give us a percentage on this?

A: No. Open at this point.

Q: (L) Now, getting back to the planet, if at some point in the cycle, bodies were generated on this planet and brought to earth, who brought them?

A: Realm crossing.

Q: (L) It was not a who, it was a what, is that correct?

A: All is who and what.

Q: (L) Well, the other night you mentioned something about the Transient Passengers hauling these bodies off that planet and bringing them to earth, is that correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, are these Transient Passengers Realms?

A: Yes. So are you.

Q: (L) Do you guys know what you are doing to the linear mind here?

A: Can of worms.

Q: (L) You said something the other night when we lost the tape about the expansion of the star being conducive to creation. Could you give us a little bit on that aspect?

A: Transdimensional Atomic remolecularization.

Q: (L) What is Remolecularization.

A: Being reassembled.

Q: (L) Reassembled from what to what?

A: Complex. Density collision.

Q: (L) Collision of one density with another. Which?

A: Learn 4 level assembly.

Q: (L) How?

A: Study.

Q: (L) Does this mean that this was a point in space time when pure energy could form around a framework of a thought pattern and thus become solid matter?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Is this transitioning of energy from higher densities into third density or solid matter kind of a traumatic event for universal energy?

A: Subjective.

Q: (L) Is it a form of death?

A: Death and birth are the same.

Q: (L) Was it a requirement to be on a planet with a dying star for this remolecularization to take place?

A: If 3rd density remolecularization.

Q: (L) So, for energy to go into 3rd density physical level... is energy moving down when it comes into 3rd level?

A: No. Upward.

Q: (L) What moves upward?

A: Molecules, atomic matter. Light is first density and unifies all densities.

Q: (L) Does that mean that by us moving from 3rd density into 4th density that we are getting farther away from unification with the source?

A: No. Light and darkness unify all densities.

Q: (L) How many levels of density are there?

A: 7

Q: (L) When you reach the seventh level, how would you describe that if 1st level is light?

A: 7th is core of existence.

Q: (L) Well, if seventh density is the core of existence, would that mean that 1st density is the outer edge of existence?

A: Base.

Q: (L) When one has reached 7th density, then what does one do?

A: When one reaches 7th all do.

Q: (L) Are there any beings on 7th level?

A: Time does not exist.

Q: (L) When light is transferred to electrical energy, does it actually change density?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it from 1st to 3rd when it becomes electricity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Once again, are there any beings on 7th level?

A: Big bang.

Q: (L) Big bang is at 7th level?

A: Close enough.

Q: (L) So, when we all reach 7th level we will all blow up? We will all become one and it will all start all over again?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, that's not a pleasant thought!

A: Why? There is no time, you dwell there eternally. 7th is the light you see at death of the body.

Q: (L) So, when you die and leave the body, do you go to seventh level?

A: See it.

Q: (L) Well, I have a book over on the shelf called "Messages from Michael"... this entity says that souls are being continually flung off from some sort of soul generator somewhere in the universe... what was this source?

A: Entity at 3rd incarnate.

Q: (L) Was this information valid in absolute terms?

A: No. Souls are already created.

Q: (L) You mean from the first instant of time (excuse the term)?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, it all seems pretty amorphous.

A: Amorphous is perceptive.

Q: (L) I want to ask what is the source of the pain L__, J__ and I have been experiencing identically for the past week or so?

A: DNA changes.

Q: (L) And what is the source of these DNA changes?

A: Moving to 4th density.

Q: (L) How soon are we going to make it?

A: Open.

Q: (L) In referring to the Nephilim you used the term "forced insemination". How does this differ from "artificial insemination?"

A: No difference.

Q: (L) At the time of the tower of Babel it says that the Nephilim looked on the daughters of men and took wives as if there were some friendly interaction of some sort... does this mean they broke ranks and had feelings for their human "wives"?

A: No. Another deception of history. Picturesque way of describing genetic experiments.

Q: (L) Why did the sphinx look like a feline human?

A: Symbolism of feline energy.

Q: (L) Was this why the Egyptians worshipped cats or held cats in such high regard?

A: At root of this.

Q: (L) What was the origin of this feline god?

A: Atlantean tradition.

Q: (L) Where did the Atlantean tradition of the feline god originate?

A: Superstition.

Q: (L) What was the superstition about?

A: Not important.

Q: (L) Well, it is possibly important because such an enormous monument was built to honor this god and I am sure the world would like to know what is at the root of this.

A: What is at root of Statue of Liberty?

Q: (L) A principle. So, a feline principle is at the root of the sphinx?

A: Close.

Q: (L) It does not represent any alien beings, gods or goddesses?

A: No.

Q: (L) And what was this god's name?

A: Endurra.

Q: (L) Why did the worship of this god or goddess stop?

A: Fizzled out.

Q: (L) You said that the Lizzies lived among humans for a thousand years. When, in our illusion of time, did this occur?

A: During peak of Atlantis.

Q: (L) And how long was the Atlantean civilization in existence?

A: 70,000 years

Q: (L) Was mankind living on the earth as a sentient being during the time of the large dinosaurs?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Transitory time warp.

Q: (L) Was there ever a time when there was a physical human race that contained within a single body both sexes?

A: No,.

Q: (L) Was the physical human race always two sexes, that is, male and female?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did Atlantis go down as a series of destructions?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many cataclysms?

A: Three.

Q: (L) Were these cataclysms all caused by the same source?

A: No.

Q: (L) And you said that the "flood of Noah" was the story of the final deluge and destruction of Atlantis?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And that was caused by what?

A: Venus.

Q: (L) I thought you said it was caused by Martek?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, how can it be caused by Venus if it was caused by Martek?

A: Venus also "caused" Martek.

Q: (L) You said that the earth, up to that time, was surrounded by a water vapor canopy, correct?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And when Mars came by it overloaded the earth's atmosphere and it fell as a deluge, correct?

A: Close.

Q: (L) When did Venus enter the solar system?

A: 80000 years approximately.

Q: (L) How many close passes to the earth did Venus make?

A: Seven.

Q: (L) Was Venus involved with the planet Kantek which you said exploded due to psychic energies generated by its inhabitants?

A: No.

Q: (L) When L__ took the Melatonin the other night, how come he was unable to sleep?

A: Adjusting to the melatonin.

Q: (L) Is everything going to work out for Frank in a positive way?

A: Eventually if he can withstand the rough period.

Q: (L) Is it true that once we have gotten through rough periods and established faith and patience, we don't have to do it anymore?

A: Open.

Q: (L) How long is it seen that mother will be staying with this lady in Largo?

A: 4 to 6 months longer.

Q: (L) Why has A__ B__ not called me back about crop circles?

A: UFO grapevine gossip.

Q: (L) Saying what?

A: Your source is not valid.

Q: (L) Who started that grapevine rumor?

A: Two people.

Q: (L) Who are they?

A: F__ and W__. Ego again.

Q: (L) Well guys, let me ask you: did you start this communication because you wanted this information given out to the world in a general way? Or just simply because we were driven to have answers?

A: Yes. Both.

Q: (L) If we are going to get this information out, it should just happen...

A: Yes, but resistance and interference too. Persevere.

Q: (L) Well, with all this resistance and this grapevine it is real discouraging.

A: Not right people.

Q: (L) Well, can you tell me about a few of the right people?

A: Not problem. Just press those you have.

Q: (L) Okay, thank you and good night.

A: Good Night.

End of session
 

cliftonedward

Padawan Learner
This one hurts my brain trying to grasp it! Ouch! But I particularly like this one and see as one of the most important ones ive read. Some new insight into the process of the cycle.
 

Joanne

The Force is Strong With This One
Could the wave, which is or contains the Realm border crossing and of which we are transient passangers, be closing a grand cycle as Earth graduates to 4th density and D'Ahnkiar ceases to exist (blows up)?

As this cycle closes, ancient Earth becomes a reality again in 3d for the souls that did not graduate to start over again with the beginning of a new wave of which those souls will be transient passangers. Cycles upon cycles, for all there is is lessons. :huh:

So much fun to play with and try to comprehend!!!
 

Gaolea

Padawan Learner
Awesome session!

I love the part when the Cs say : When one reach 7th density all do

:3
 

Ariadna

Jedi
FOTCM Member
I understand that 4Th density STS does with the human race 3Th density the same as this are doing with the 2Th density and the planet itself. The 4Th SAS use us, manipulate us, using genetic modification to adjust the race to their interests and what they need and can do, seeking his only and exclusive interest. If humanity suffers it is not their "problem" we are where we are and what we are, their food. I believe in IMO that is their condition and nature. Perhaps we are like lambs for them. They want now milk, then need wood, and finally want meat.

I think that in order to escape the pen first we have to know, understand, see, grasp ... who we are individually, the world around us, the invisible word, seek the path SAO and it could be that with the help of other external factors cosmic order (wave, stars expanded ...) unknown and incomprehensible for me, we can pass to the other side, where we could at least be on equal terms. It would be like the bird that escapes from the cage and gets to the forest.
This is my humble view after I read so far. And this is the path I want to walk with your help and Cs. I have a lot to learn still.

Please, if the text is not clearly understood, ask and I'll try to clarify again


Thanks
 

Tristan

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
For now before worrying about 4th STS beings, we have to deal with 3D reality this is dealing with beings that we encounter daily that are narcissists, psychopaths and other, also the ponerization process in society.
Before embarking on a path to STO, we have homework: clean the machine, practice the activities suggested in the forum through network, adquiring knowledge... IMHO
 

SMM

The Living Force
Interesting session. The mention of karma as related to the black race, does that relate at all to Moors? Might be stretching it a bit there...glad I stumbled upon this nonetheless.

Tristan said:
For now before worrying about 4th STS beings, we have to deal with 3D reality this is dealing with beings that we encounter daily that are narcissists, psychopaths and other, also the ponerization process in society.
Before embarking on a path to STO, we have homework: clean the machine, practice the activities suggested in the forum through network, adquiring knowledge... IMHO
Ah yes, that 3D reality. Thanks for reminding me :) I agree with you there Tristan - learning & dealing with what's here for us to deal with now.
 

timeless roamer

The Force is Strong With This One
Gaolea said:
Awesome session!

I love the part when the Cs say : When one reach 7th density all do

:3
RIGHT!!!! It really makes you wonder how linear/constrained 3rd density beings think. :lol:
 

timeless roamer

The Force is Strong With This One
SMM said:
Interesting session. The mention of karma as related to the black race, does that relate at all to Moors? Might be stretching it a bit there...glad I stumbled upon this nonetheless.

Tristan said:
For now before worrying about 4th STS beings, we have to deal with 3D reality this is dealing with beings that we encounter daily that are narcissists, psychopaths and other, also the ponerization process in society.
Before embarking on a path to STO, we have homework: clean the machine, practice the activities suggested in the forum through network, adquiring knowledge... IMHO
Ah yes, that 3D reality. Thanks for reminding me :) I agree with you there Tristan - learning & dealing with what's here for us to deal with now.
Indeed, and this is what I struggle with most. I do not focus on my homework. :headbash:
 

Carlin

The Force is Strong With This One
In this last reading, this session has had a very particular effect, on one hand the last two sessions of 2013 we perceive as "the last" and now this one that corresponds to the first "dozen" meetings with C´s form a circle, it may be more appropriate a sphere, in which the past, present and future are located at any point, depending on how you want to see, if we change the dates, the information is still current and fluid. What I can say for certain is the systematic attack on our "linearity" as the hammer to the anvil, to the stubbornness of "wait for the future" if all information for all sessions are NOW and we are "now, yesterday and tomorrow "stuck in these time warp. Multiply our "talents" fill our lamps with "oil" (information ........) that the "groom" is near.
What attest is that each reading, first discard something old and incorporates something new then it will take a completely different reality to which our "linearity" directs us
 
Laura said:
A: Spreading thin. Confusion does this. You are being bombarded with confusion in this era.
Oh, that piece of information was what I really needed. That's as objective as you can get in relation to why there are so many points of views, most of which are truths diluted with so many falsehoods.
 

gdpetti

Jedi Council Member
From The Thunderbolts Project:
In relation to Venus, I thought this little 2 part vid was insightful... visuals always make understanding easier for the less scientific anyway ;)

A new scientific study provides powerful testimony to the extraordinary influences of electrical forces at the planetary scale. An electric wind recently measured at the planet Venus is said to be sufficiently strong that it can strip an entire planet of all its water components. The co-author of the study, NASA’s Glyn Collinson, said of these findings: “It’s amazing and shocking. We never dreamt an electric wind could be so powerful that it can suck oxygen right out of an atmosphere into space. This is something that definitely has to be on the checklist when we go looking for habitable planets around other stars.”

Wal Thornhill explains why this discovery is not surprising in an Electric Universe.

Source story: http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/23984/20160621/venus-terrifying-electric-wind-sucks-water-atmosphere.htm
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hlat

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Laura said:
Q: (L) Would you help me out here. I'm trying to figure out why, if that planet was turned into a cinder, why were human beings seeded there... what was the point in being brought into being on a planet that was very shortly to become a cinder... a crispy critter...

A: Okay. Now: "Shocker" For you. It hasn't become a cinder yet.

Q: (L) Okay. What is it. You told us it was a cinder... burned up... what is the real story here?

A: It will be at the same "time" that you go to 4th density. The human race is currently being formed on D'Ahnkiar.
The past (when humans were created and then moved to ancient Earth) is actually occurring in the present and future, or simultaneously with the present and future.

Does this mean that the fall 300,000 years ago may be changed in the present so that there was no fall and will be no fall?

I suppose if we prevent the fall, then we erase ourselves as well since we are product of the fall.

Maybe if branches of the universe are erased in these time loops, the lessons are not erased but are somehow retained.
 

3DStudent

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
hlat said:
Laura said:
Q: (L) Would you help me out here. I'm trying to figure out why, if that planet was turned into a cinder, why were human beings seeded there... what was the point in being brought into being on a planet that was very shortly to become a cinder... a crispy critter...

A: Okay. Now: "Shocker" For you. It hasn't become a cinder yet.

Q: (L) Okay. What is it. You told us it was a cinder... burned up... what is the real story here?

A: It will be at the same "time" that you go to 4th density. The human race is currently being formed on D'Ahnkiar.
The past (when humans were created and then moved to ancient Earth) is actually occurring in the present and future, or simultaneously with the present and future.

Does this mean that the fall 300,000 years ago may be changed in the present so that there was no fall and will be no fall?

I suppose if we prevent the fall, then we erase ourselves as well since we are product of the fall.

Maybe if branches of the universe are erased in these time loops, the lessons are not erased but are somehow retained.

That's interesting. It gives new meaning to cycles and repeating timelines. Maybe just a few things change and things start anew? Maybe without the fall, we would just stay in a long wave cycle as spiritual beings with no 1,2,3 and 4d reincarnation?

It brings to mind the slide projector analogy. I wonder if when cycles start over, are changes made and the slides are just put in a different order? And that's how something can be said to have happened, and also not have happened yet? It's just our 3D minds that have trouble understanding that.
 

Yuriy

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello!
On the occasion of the "Pass of Djatlova ", in the Russian-speaking segment of Yutubе, there appeared quite a lot of sessions of various channeling, through regressive hypnosis and similar practices. So, many of these sources say that the group of Djatlova was killed by Soviet servicemen because there were tested some kind of rockets and the place was classified.
Can our friends comment on this?
 
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