Session 23 November 2024

[Ile]

Thank You for the session.

 

[SunEterna]

Hello there. Thanks for this.

 

[T.C.]

What would you ask?

I suppose I’d just like to cheat and get inside Trump’s head for two mins to understand where he’s coming from, his personal intentions when it comes to foreign policy.

I guess a lot of things I’d like to know would probably get a “wait and see”, and anything else we can figure out for ourselves in discussions on here.

 

[mocachapeau]

Wow! A truly amazing session. Thank you so much.

Thinking of the ice age already setting in, I think of everyone still going on about global warming who recognize the significance of unseasonably warm temperatures when they happen here and there, but completely ignore the significance of the equally unusual cold temperatures. I guess because it fits the narrative they've been fed for the last 20 odd years. I try to come up with an analogy that might help them to understand the idea of what one could expect after what they perceive to be a long period of extreme warming. Like a pretty rapidly-occurring, equal and opposite cold period.

Systems being systems, I thought of the political system and the pendulum analogy often used to express the constant swinging back and forth from left to right. When the pendulum reaches its apex on one side, we know it's going to swing the other way. And what mostly determines how far it's going to swing the other way, is how far it swung in the previous direction. Momentum, and all. Yes, it's more complicated than that, but I find it a helpful analogy whenever I get in a conversation with people who can't see the forest for the trees concerning the changing climate.

Hearing the accurate numbers for the US election was amazing! But also significant when considering that swinging pendulum. Just how far right a swing might we expect if he actually makes it to the inauguration. I would think things need to be brought back to the center but, due to how far left things have gone, the potential for an extreme swing to the right seems quite present. I wouldn't expect anything nasty from Trump, but the people around him who love the power, his supporters who have had enough of the woke BS... we shall see.

Here in Canada, we have the Trudeau government. I don't need to describe how far left things have gone up here - I'm sure you already know. His days are numbered, there will be an election in 2025 and the conservatives will most likely win a majority government. As happy as I will be to see his backside leaving the room, the prospect of a conservative majority with a career politician at the helm scares the crap out of me. Just how far right will... we shall see.

Of course, if Trump doesn't make it to the inauguration, all hell will break loose and any concerns about the swing to the right will become a moot point.

Thanks again for the great session.

 

[Persej]

Thank you for this very interesting session.

(Joe) What's the lesson for someone with that issue? What's the primary lesson they learned from having that kind of experience in life?

A: You are souls first. The genetic body can be overwhelmed by early emotional, mental, and/or physical abuse. It is very difficult to reach those levels of the subconscious mind.

A: Just as there are individuals able to heal, to levitate, to be physical mediums, and other so-called paranormal abilities, so there are people whose systems do not submit to the constraints of space and time as you will it to be.

Q: (T.C.) Can I ask a question? Do these people, at the time of their incarnation, do they know that they are going to be incarnating into a body with those genetics, or are they choosing to incarnate into bodies with those genetics for a certain reason, or is it random?

A: In some cases, yes. In others it can be a confluence of genetics and external triggers that upregulate those genes. After all, many, many people have such genes that are dormant. And for other paranormal abilities as well.

A: Not what you call true emotions. But you haven't experienced the full range either. Most of what you experience is chemical, though there is a true emotional component. You are still the "princess in the tower" kept captive by the dragons set to keep you captive.

Q: (L) What are the dragons?

A: Fear and distortions of your emotional center programmed into you in childhood. You bit the apple and fell into a trance.

Session 12 June 2008

So we have genes which are important for the paranormal abilities, but those genes lie dormant because our genetic body is overwhelmed by early emotional, mental, and/or physical abuse which instilled fear into our subconscious mind. And that fear is very deep, at the genetic body level. Which means that we need something that will heal the genetic body.

On the subject of phantom photography (energy imprints or other), I haven't read Jane Tripps's book. However, if it may serve as an analogy, I've read some time ago (don't recall where) that for audio recording of paranormal voices, it is preferable to have a recording device that produces some "random" noise, with no active filtering. Whatever manifests does through the noise's "randomness", which similar to what Dean Radin's experiments show: mental phenomena influence the electro-photons in an light interference experiment. It is as if these phenomena would introduce some order/structure to a structureless (random) process.

There is a movie with that scenario.

White Noise - Schreie aus dem Jenseits (2005) ⭐ 5.5 | Drama, Horror, Mystery

1h 41m | 16

www.imdb.com

(L) There were some experiments some years back, and I think I talked about it in The Wave of where there were some people who were leaving recording devices in a place where there were stones. And the next day they would come and they would find that there were voices recorded. And they kind of figured out that this was because the recordings were in the stones and the recording devices were recording, picking up, picking up on the replays of those recordings from the stones. Audio.

(Joe) Audio?

(L) Audio. Those were audio recordings. And this was, I'm trying to remember where I read about it, but I think, yeah, I read about it in this set of books. I have Mysteries of Mind, Space and Time. And then it kind of clicked in my mind with the work of Lethbridge who was talking about hauntings and feelings and spirits of places and so forth being recordings in the atmosphere or in the underlying... the substrate of rocks and so forth that gave off electromagnetic fields or something so that these things were recording events and then they would playback over and over again. And that was an explanation for why some hauntings were so mechanical and why you would see marching Roman soldiers marching cut off at the waist because their feet were still on the road at the level where the Roman road was, which was now covered with several feet of soil that the recording played back exactly as it was. And the soil had been added since then. So they were still marching on the old buried Roman road. So I had made those connections that a lot of things that happen are just like recordings. Well anyhow, this woman is saying that you can get photographs from stones, also, and that she somehow, and maybe I read it and I didn't catch it or she didn't describe it exactly, but somehow she interacts with stones or buildings or whatever in such a way that she is able to produce photographs from thousands of years ago. The stones apparently are playing back these images.

(Andromeda) It's funny that some things would be recorded and then it wouldn't be recorded over for so long. Like ancient recordings, like the Roman soldiers for instance, those stones have held that recording specifically for a really long time.

(L) I think it would have to be the conditions at the moment that the recording is made plus the emotional conditions or generation by the individual or individuals.

A: Yes.

I wonder if this is connected with the mystery of trace minerals? Alchemists were very focused on doing their procedures at the appropriate time, at the appropriate cosmic influences. So perhaps they were using minerals as recordings of those influences? Perhaps that is why you need to burn the plant in the process, because you need to erase the previous recording in the minerals before making a new beneficial recording?

 

[Beau]

Just how far right a swing might we expect if he actually makes it to the inauguration. I would think things need to be brought back to the center but, due to how far left things have gone, the potential for an extreme swing to the right seems quite present.

Pretty much all of what Trump wants to do is center/moderate though. Ending foreign interventions was always a leftist position. The DOGE thing is a libertarians dream, and they are centrist too. I'm not sure what you envision as potentially a swing to the right, but all of the policy positions and appointments so far do not at all look to be "extreme swings to the right." There's a lot of revolutionary stuff that could happen, but none of it was ever a part of a Republican administration before.

 

[Meager1]

Quote “At one time we had a member... Đuro... or was it Mile... something like that, I really don't remember, (mostly I got the impression that he was "naše gore list" - a Balkan guy) who claimed to see past events in crystals (people passing by, knights, etc.). He also uploaded pictures of individual crystals with a description of what he saw.

He wasn't very well received.

Honestly, I wasn't interested either. I didn't see the need to frequency synchronize with 1D. I thought I had mastered those lessons when I was 1D.

Now I wonder: Why is this lady more interesting than our forum member?“

If memory serves, we were discussing pictures in rocks some 15 years or more in the past here. I was so excited about this discovery and wanted to share the experience with others, but it was as you said, there was little interest but much annoyance.
There were several theories and speculations about what was being seen, however once you have seen the how or why of it, loses its importance.
I’ve never seen a real picture in a crystal except in a dream. Never by looking at a crystal itself. The best rocks for this phenomena have a somewhat shiny surface but I don’t think that the type is rock is always the same. They come in different colors and different shapes some can be as small as an arrowhead or the size of a cliff wall. It doesn’t seem to matter much. I have never seen any indication of trauma, or that something unusual or extreme was happening in the environment when these pictures were formed in the rock.
In fact almost all of the images and the people in them have looked somewhat serene and calm. As if just a moment of their lives had been recorded.
And this wasn’t a localized event, but rocks from everywhere seem to have this capability to record and retain an image. These are not scratches or cracks or any sort of natural damage made to these rocks neither is it possible that someone carved a rock to produce these images. They are perfect snapshots just as real and lifelike as could be taken by the best photographer today, and most of these images are in lifelike color!
Sometimes not just an image, but a story has been captured and preserved in these rocks.
Just as an example.. I saw a woman sitting in front of a rock as if in some communication with it, behind her were a group of men on a huge rock, hanging from ropes and carving the rock into an image of a woman. The natural and the unnatural.
It is utterly fascinating and beautiful. I don’t understand why people can’t or don’t see it, other than they really never bothered to look.
I have received a new revelation that not all of the pictures are just snapshots, but they can contain a short video as well. I have only seen this one time but I did see it.
It was nothing more than a silver fish jumping out of and back into the water. But it was a movie type thing that lasted only a matter of seconds. But it showed that it was also a possibility. Anyway, I talked this subject to death years ago so I’ll stop.
Maybe someone should just ask the C,s how the pictures got there, when it happened and why everyone doesn’t see them.

 

[birger]

Thank you

 

[Gwenllian]

IFS has helped me a lot. There's no magic bullet, tho. It has taken a lot of work with various approaches to find the remedy.

I agree, there is no magic bullet and personally, I wouldn't be able to pinpoint one single remedy that has helped me. I think it is a veritable potpourri of various remedies, people, events, activities etc. that propel us forward and help us heal, if it is even possible. And somehow it all links together. Sometimes we need to do something first before we can move onto the next thing.

I think one of the hardest things I ever did was to say out loud to someone else what my parents did to me when I was small, especially when it came to my mother. It has taken me many, many years before I could finally pluck up the courage and tell someone. I was lucky enough to find Alice Miller's work when I started exploring my childhood as she at least enabled me to see what parents/people are capable of. It doesn't mean that I think her work was perfect, but for me it was an important beginning.

Perhaps it is even harder for men having to admit that their mothers hurt them extremely badly or allowing themselves to look at the truth even if it is still hidden. Dreams may give us information or our own behaviour/thoughts/emotions which can be absolutely baffling. A lot of subconscious stuff comes up when we have young kids or when we are in a relationship. But when we can trace it back to our past it starts to make a lot of sense. FWIW.

 

[Mandrak]

At one time we had a member... Đuro... or was it Mile... something like that, I really don't remember, (mostly I got the impression that he was "naše gore list" - a Balkan guy) who claimed to see past events in crystals (people passing by, knights, etc.). He also uploaded pictures of individual crystals with a description of what he saw.

He wasn't very well received.

Honestly, I wasn't interested either. I didn't see the need to frequency synchronize with 1D. I thought I had mastered those lessons when I was 1D.

Now I wonder: Why is this lady more interesting than our forum member?

I don't wonder. It's a pretty heavy stuff. When I became somewhat familiar with Jane Tripp's work, I had an "aha" moment. And I remembered that I had some strange photographs. So, I kind of connected the dots. I'm under the impression what to do with that information and I don't expect it to become widespread at all. I used to make fun of my brother who looked at mountain maps and looked for meaningful figures in it. Now it seems to me that he was on the trail of something, but without any expert guidance, just with a feeling that there was something there. That's quite a blow to me. I showed him some examples from Jane Tripp`s book to see that someone has a similar "hobby" to him and maybe direct the idea more precisely.
I do not remember that member you mention (and I am not that active by the way), but I have nevertheless encountered these ideas to some extent: interpreting symbols from a cup after drinking coffee, listening to messages in white noise, throwing rice on paper with written answers and the like, the appearance of orbs in photographs (I have tried all of these except white noise). In only one photo did I have something like ectoplasm around my colleague and I have had many photos with orbs. As a child, I loved to draw and it happened that I would notice an interesting spot on the paper, recognizing it as some character, and that drawing would be better than drawing directly from my head without the help of an "amorphous" spot on the paper.
These are things that the "analytical mind" automatically blocks and rejects (some people even reject a pyramid as a building if it only has a few bushes and trees, it automatically becomes a natural creation).
I had a funny experience when I was guessing who is who in my group by horoscope and I told one girl that she was a Virgo by horoscope, she said she is a Virgo, but that she didn't believe in horoscopes. And that's typical for Virgos, that's why it's funny. But because she doesn't believe in it ("paranormal" stuff nad horoscope), it wasn't as creepy for her as it was for another girl at the table whose horoscope I guessed.
And I am also "naše gore list".

 

[Odin]

Thank you for the new session!

Things are getting more intense and weirder and weirder each day. I find it increasingly harder to associate with this reality we are in but I focus on staying in motion and growing my faith.

Thanks to all of you for being here.

 

[Nachtweide]

Or maybe it works like this:
Perhaps the collective West do not really know that they are suffering or to the extent that they are.

I remember an exercise that a therapist guided me through once to help with anxiety. At the end of the exercise and for the first time that I could recall, I didn't feel anxiety and also realised that I'd been anxious my whole life. I needed the comparison between the states to know that I'd been anxious.

In the same way, perhaps if Trump does succeed with his plans and things get a lot better in America, then other countries will see and be able to compare that with what's going on in their own countries, they will know the extent of their suffering and so there will be more resistance to their own governments and that will help restore balance.

I agree with that. In Germany, people have been living in a bubble created by politicians and the media for decades. The maximum brainwashing of an entire nation is based on the characteristic of guilt. We grow up with the hereditary guilt of the Holocaust, which has woven through our entire lives and thinking like spider threads. As soon as people wake up, we are silenced, punished for our generational guilt. Now it seems that a great awakening is recognizable, triggered by markers such as corona, vaccination, Israel, Ukraine, migration. In recent years, it has often been unbearable for me to have to listen to the naive and robotically rehearsed nonsensical justifications. Today, some clever questions are being thrown into the ring and people are being forced to stop the old manipulated memorial process. Many people's minds are churning, but there is a certain wall of fear of being punished for leaving old ways of thinking and publicly standing up for their own new point of view. For Germans who are attached to the American umbilical cord, Trump's new laws also mean that we have permission to change. The credibility of our politics and media is increasingly disintegrating at the moment.
And this reminds me of Gurdjieff: The first path is disappointment - the realization that we have been deceived by those who promised to protect us. The nature of the German is well-behaved, naive, gullible - but there is also another special characteristic. When the German sheep awakens, it will turn into a lion.

 

[Duke]

ThankQ Laura and crew... Special times❤❤❤

 

[Kadam303]

ThanK You for the session and transcript!!!!!!

 

[mocachapeau]

Pretty much all of what Trump wants to do is center/moderate though. Ending foreign interventions was always a leftist position. The DOGE thing is a libertarians dream, and they are centrist too. I'm not sure what you envision as potentially a swing to the right, but all of the policy positions and appointments so far do not at all look to be "extreme swings to the right." There's a lot of revolutionary stuff that could happen, but none of it was ever a part of a Republican administration before.

I agree, and I really hope that's the way it goes. I'm just looking at what history shows us about how that pendulum seems to work, and I'm not sure the intentions of the administration can stop it if anything gets out of control. As you say, a lot of revolutionary stuff could happen, and if it does, the government will have to react. At that point it all becomes about people's perceptions of what is going on, which we know is heavily manipulated by the media, on both sides.

The left in the US today has moved the goalposts so far that many see centrists as right-wing. The slightest move to the right by the government - even just back toward what you and I consider to be the center - they perceive, and decry fanatically in their media, as being a move toward fascism. There might be 50 to 100 million of those nutjobs that still believe that crap, and we know that they are principally gathered together in the heavily populated urban areas - potential mobs. It is their reaction to what they believe is happening that will determine whether anything crazy unfolds.

The leftist fanatics see fascism taking over, they react violently. The government is forced to respond appropriately in order to stop the violence, they go a little too hard here and there... snowball effect. I would even venture to say that millions of people voted for Trump who felt that there "just wasn't quite enough evidence to be sure he is a fascist". Those people see the violence... there's the last bit of evidence they needed - he's a fascist! The mob grows, the violence escalates, the government declares a state of emergency (a popular move these days), the army is brought in (already made legal by the Biden administration), et voilà!

No, not fascism, but a major swing to the right. [Not necessarily in terms of policies, but in terms of control.] (This sentence I added, which was my edit)

Honestly, I see the situation as you described above. But that's because you and I never bought into the over-the-top, anti-Trump rhetoric. Millions did, and those who did still believe it. I see it every day on FB - they're nuts.

All I'm saying is the potential is there.