Session 23 October 2004

Laura

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October 23, 2004

Laura, Ark, Perceval, Mr. Scott, Galahad, Atriedes, Andromeda, Alice {Laura’s Mother}, JM-guest

A: Look love Hello, my children!

Q: (L) Who is with us?

A: Ioorinaea

Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from, or through?

A: Rigel

Q: (L) What happened to Cassiopaea?

A: Mother Cassiopaea has retired!

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Far noon!

Q: (L) Were you ever in a human body?

A: Farnoon!

Q: (L) What does that maen?

A: Hello in Orion

Q: (L) What if we want to speak with the Cassiopaeans?

A: I will pass on the message.

Q: (L) Why did Cassiopaea retire?

A: 5 months ago there was a galatic explosion that disrupted the transmitter.

Q: (L) Are you an alien?

A: Other

Q: (L) What do you mean?

A: Density 6 piquawmns/for p5t oriaea.

Q: (L) That doesn't make any sense!

A: Not so! Must regroove.

Q: (Atriedes) Is a light saber as imagined by George Lucas possible with existing earth technology?

A: No

Q: (L) Who is going to win the election in the US?

A: There are no elections.

Q: (Galahad) Will they be cancelled?

A: Unless a miracle occurs, no.

Q: (Ark) Why we were given no warning about the galactic explosion?

A: Quantum probabilities and you were not picking up the phone.

Q: (A) I have been thinking about what you once said about modeling consciousness in equations. You suggested inverting geometric representation of gravity. My idea is to start with complex space and complex time...

A: That is close enough to get you started. But you will find that it may be more simple than that.

Q: (A) If I only use complex time, as Igor and Grichka propose?

A: Not that simple!

Q: (A) Complex space only?

A: That is closer.

Q: (A) But then how would time travel be possible if no complex time?

A: Many worlds, so to say.

Q: (L) What is your relationship with Cassiopaea?

A: Relationship does not apply when one.

Q: (L) Then is it the same source using a different transmitter?

A: Precisely. And it would be easier if you received more regularly.

Q: (A) Where was the galactic explosion?

A: In Cassiopeia.

Q: (A) How far was it from us?

A: Probably 2600 light years.

Q: (Galahad) Have there been any effects that we have felt here? (A) Yes, we lost the Cassiopaeans!

A: Too minimal too notice.

Q: (Perceval) Will there be another terrorist attack in the US soon?

A: Bush does not need one, so no.

Q: (Perceval) Will Bush continue on as President?

A: Until he dies.

Q: (Perceval) Will he be assassinated?

A: Not likely.

Q: (Galahad) Will he try to become a permanent leader, a Furher?

A: Will try.

Q: (Galahad) Is he sick and will he die from his illness?

A: No...

Q: [Discussion about him being made sick or dying from other reasons.]

A: There are many ways to die.

Q: (Perceval) Who was the guy taking pictures of Laura in the market?

A: Let's just say that there many groups.

Q: [Discussion of possibilities...]

A: Let's just say that Laura is one of those people that some others love to hate.

Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to change that?

A: If you did, you wouldn't be you nor could you do what you came to do.

Q: (Perceval) Is it likely that any of these groups will try a more direct or physical attack?

A: Only if you lessen vigilance.

Q: (A) We are going to Rennes-le-Château this week. Is there anything we should look at?

A: Better not to anticipate and to trust your abilities.

Q: (L) Could you give us some hint about the identity of the group and guy in the market?

A: Who is in the porn industry?

Q: Well, there is a big porn industry in Europe that seems to be based in the Netherlands and run basically by Jewish consortiums. There are many suggestions that this is just one arm of MOSSAD, and one of the ways they make money. A lot of New Age and conspiracy websites seem to have underlying connections to porn, especially kiddie porn. Okay, one of the members had a dream recently where the Cass site was replaced by a porn site. Is this is what is going to happen?

A: Knowledge protects. You need more satellite site support.

Q: Well, satellite sites means other sites that link to us, that write articles about us, and generally offer "third party support." Should we also do an investigative report on the porn industry?

A: That's not a bad idea.

{Deletion of discussion about legal matters concerning several individuals, the details of which would reveal personal information and general strategies and therefore cannot be included. The following two questions and answers refer to one of the individuals discussed and carries important information for all, so sorry that it has no context.)

Q: (H) When you referred to the manipulations with S****, what kind of manipulations were you referring to: internal or external?

A: Both but mostly external as in not directly perceivable in the environment.

Q: (L) Does that mean that if someone believes an illusion, that it leaves a hole in their defenses?

A: More or less.

Q: (L) Well, we don't seem to be thinking very fast tonight. Is there anything we should be asking that we're missing?

A: If there is, we are here.

Q: (Galahad) What is the major problem facing the group at the moment?

A: Stalling frequency waves.

Q: What can we do to jump-start the group?

A: Requires will and knowledge. You share, they find will if it is there to find.

Q: (A) What kind of knowledge do we need to share?

A: That their lack of ability to see and do is due to deliberate stalling.

Q: (Galahad) Can you elaborate?

A: They are in a frequency fence being stored for later food.

Q: (A) Are we also in a fence? Or, are we different?

A: Quite.

Q: We are quite different?

A: Yes.

Q: What makes us different?

A: Seeing and doing.

Q: Well, if we have a network, different people are doing different things. They are at different levels. Shouldn't we consider it in this light?

A: You were in as bad condition before leaving the USA, remember?

Q: (Galahad) Can they overcome the stalling?

A: If they wish.

Q: (L) What is the deal with Montalk and Carissa?

A: Remember the fondler? {Refers to another session where an agent was discussed, the handler being referred to as “the Fondler.”}

Q: (Galahad) Were the planes that hit the WTC the actual commercial flights as the official story says?

A: Yes.

Q: (Galahad) So there is a lot of disinfo out there trying to confuse and disrupt those who want to get the truth.

A: CIA confusion is apparent.

Q: (Galahad) Were there any explosives planted in the Pentagon?

A: The plane delivered the explosives.

Q: (L) Was it, as I suspect, a plane specially constructed for the job? One that was not only constructed of special materials, but als had its own internal bomb designed to blow those special materials to smithereens so there would be no evidence?

A: Yes. Exactly.

Q: (Perceval) You mentioned before about a scandal at the Denver Airport. Is this still on or have things changed?

A: Yet to come. Just keep flapping.

Q: (Galahad) Will this have to do with 911?

A: Yes. Oh, yes!

Q: (Perceval) Does it have to do with the flight simulators?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is it that they landed Flight 77 at Denver?

A: Very possible.

Q: (Galahad) Is Daniel Hopsicker an agent?

A: Of course. You can see.

Q: (Galahad) Is there anyone in the US who isn't?!

A: It is hard to see in the USA.

Q: (A) There is this guy - Stein - who has contacted us and he talks about Boehmian physics. Is it a good investment of my time and energy to investigate this?

A: What do you sense about it thus far?

Q: (A) I sense that it may go in an interesting direction. What do you sense?

A: We are you in the future and you sense correctly. There is something interesting but it is not physics as you know it.

Q: (A) Why are you transmitting from Rigel? What is special about Rigel?

A: Oh, wouldn't you like to know?

Q: [Discussion as to what that might mean. Laura points out that Rigel was mentioned in a previous discussion about supernovae.]

A: We already told you " No dice!"

Q: (Galahad) Should we tell the group about the change to Rigel?

A: Wait a bit and "see" how brilliant you are.

Q: (Galahad) Is SD an agent?

A: Like anyone is until they lose their scales. He may lose them soon enough.

Q: (Andromeda) I have been having these dreams, but they aren't really dreams, they come when I am between being awake and asleep. I am fighting with an entity. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. Is this an interior or an exterior entity?

A: You are surrounded by warriors. No point in struggling alone. All you have to do is ask. The thing that stops you is the false pride whispered to you deceptively.

Q: [Discussion wondering what the last answer might mean.] It sounds like an external entity...

A: End the illusion of separate "power" and the connection is weakened.

Q: [More discussion. Conclusion that "the illusion of separate power" means trying to solve a problem alone, without help.]

A: A burden shared is light. When battling such forces it is hubris to think that you can do it alone. Such hubris is part of the deception process.

Q: (A) Who was in the silver Mercedes that drove up the driveway at En Laurenc?

A: Same group as in the market. MartenJ has "interesting" friends.

[We discovered the last tape was on pause. Laura pushed the record buttons, and others saw her. But it was now on pause.]

Q: Who pushed pause?

A: PK.

Q: See you next week.

A: Good! Goodbye.

End of Session
 

shijing

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Thanks for posting these several new sessions, Laura, and for filling in the gaps for several that were incomplete up until now -- now I want to know what a piquawmn is :)

Quick question about this transcript -- the following fragment is listed here for this date, but I don't see it in the transcript above:

Q: (H) When you referred to the manipulations with S****, what kind of manipulations were you referring to: internal or external?

A: Both but mostly external as in not directly perceivable in the environment.

Q: (L) Does that mean that if someone believes an illusion, that it leaves a hole in their defenses?

A: More or less.
Is that actually part of another session?
 

Gimpy

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
These sessions are becoming lifesavers in their own way. Going over them and re reading SHOTW is uncovering a lot of info, thank you Laura for taking the time to transcribe them for us...I know its not easy.


This part of the session really jumped out at me:

Q: (Galahad) What is the major problem facing the group at the moment?

A: Stalling frequency waves.

Q: What can we do to jump-start the group?

A: Requires will and knowledge. You share, they find will if it is there to find.

Q: (A) What kind of knowledge do we need to share?

A: That their lack of ability to see and do is due to deliberate stalling.

Q: (Galahad) Can you elaborate?

A: They are in a frequency fence being stored for later food.

Q: (A) Are we also in a fence? Or, are we different?

A: Quite.

Q: We are quite different?

A: Yes.

Q: What makes us different?

A: Seeing and doing.

Q: Well, if we have a network, different people are doing different things. They are at different levels. Shouldn't we consider it in this light?

A: You were in as bad condition before leaving the USA, remember?

Q: (Galahad) Can they overcome the stalling?

A: If they wish.

I don't know about other folks, but this is an ongoing issue, along with depression, for my Hubby and myself. I'm really struggling with this, and in process of finding out if there are any physical problems adding to this, or if its just being bombarded by the 'frequency fence'.

Anyone else have ideas on steps toward Seeing and Doing? One thing that comes to mind is the media overload we experience when going out to shop or socialize. Another is the point that all of the media we see and hear is geared to hit buttons of fear/anxiety/panic, without any solutions. Hubby told me yesterday that he feels terrible, depressed and anxious and certain he's going to lose his job, until he walks through the door at home.

"When I walk through that door, its gone, like I dumped a heavy weight. Here I can relax."

Is this something we've built? And if it is, how can we share it with other people? Its really needed around here. ;)
 

Al Today

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Hello Gimpy, Glad you're feeling better. Yes, I can relate to your hubby about being the bread winner and all the anxiety created by this world. They want this turmoil. We do what we do. What matters is the love you have for each other. Hold and hug,and love each other for there is no greater force than what you share with each other. Remember, the Cs say No Anticipation. They want stress. We have been nothing, but the love between my wife and me has made all tolerable.
 

Laura

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Shijing said:
Thanks for posting these several new sessions, Laura, and for filling in the gaps for several that were incomplete up until now -- now I want to know what a piquawmn is :)

Quick question about this transcript -- the following fragment is listed here for this date, but I don't see it in the transcript above:

Q: (H) When you referred to the manipulations with S****, what kind of manipulations were you referring to: internal or external?

A: Both but mostly external as in not directly perceivable in the environment.

Q: (L) Does that mean that if someone believes an illusion, that it leaves a hole in their defenses?

A: More or less.
Is that actually part of another session?
No, it's part of this session. Problem is, it comes at the end of a segment that is private to an individual and in context, could cause that person difficulties. There didn't seem to be anyway to bridge the edit. I can put that question and answer in there, but I cannot include what led to it... so it will float there with no context. That's the problem with privacy editing. How to get every morsel in without causing harm to anyone.
 

shijing

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Laura said:
No, it's part of this session. Problem is, it comes at the end of a segment that is private to an individual and in context, could cause that person difficulties. There didn't seem to be anyway to bridge the edit. I can put that question and answer in there, but I cannot include what led to it... so it will float there with no context. That's the problem with privacy editing. How to get every morsel in without causing harm to anyone.
OK, I see -- best to leave it out altogether then. I was just doing some cross-checking, and wanted to make sure I had things in the right place.
 

seek10

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Laura said:
October 23, 2004
A: You were in as bad condition before leaving the USA, remember?

Q: (Galahad) Can they overcome the stalling?

A: If they wish.

Q: (Andromeda) I have been having these dreams, but they aren't really dreams, they come when I am between being awake and asleep. I am fighting with an entity. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. Is this an interior or an exterior entity?

A: You are surrounded by warriors. No point in struggling alone. All you have to do is ask. The thing that stops you is the false pride whispered to you deceptively.

Q: [Discussion wondering what the last answer might mean.] It sounds like an external entity...

A: End the illusion of separate "power" and the connection is weakened.

Q: [More discussion. Conclusion that "the illusion of separate power" means trying to solve a problem alone, without help.]

A: A burden shared is light. When battling such forces it is hubris to think that you can do it alone. Such hubris is part of the deception process.
Thank you for sharing it. It is interesting how often we get duped . No single formula.
 

FrankM4326754

Jedi Master
Q: (Perceval) Will there be another terrorist attack in the US soon?

A: Bush does not need one, so no.

Q: (Perceval) Will Bush continue on as President?

A: Until he dies.

Q: (Perceval) Will he be assassinated?

A: Not likely.

Q: (Galahad) Will he try to become a permanent leader, a Furher?

A: Will try.


Of course now Barrack Obama is the President.. Wonder who will be in office next. Really just another pawn to be controlled while the PTB make their moves for total control of something that they will inevitably not be able to control. When comets, asteroids, and other debris fall from the sky chaos will most likely in-sue.

Thanks for sharing!

Hope things unravel in a more positive light in the years to come but as the C's would say looks like we will, "wait and see".
 

Prysm

Padawan Learner
Well this session was read after a bit of self awareness done yesterday about how i've aquired much knowledge from these sources but have quite a few programs still in place that i am acting out in direct opposition to what is being discussed. A bit of a lightbulb moment, yet kind of silly now that i think back on it. Its like the whole aquiring of knowledge is nothing but potential, a dormant mass of energy, but its the utilization of it, specifically on myself as the example, that creates the breakthroughs and allows the light to flow out and radiate with that lightbulb moment. Heh, its soo different from when I would reflect on myself and say i should be doing this or that thing to start walking the path again. I was giving so much power to external processes about how i thought i needed to operate in order to return to such a desired path. It wasnt until i started reflecting and balancing my outlook that i realised it was whats inside that needed the work. It kind of relates to that "fence sitting" aspect and the deliberately stalling. I've always had a bit of knowing of who I was when i started seeking in my younger years, and even now up to the present, but some how i stopped being vigilant in my self application to everything i came across. I just became an aquirer of potential knowledge, and by lack of continual self work i have allowed programs to infiltrate my way of thinking. It seems by doing this self work, instead of just being this "black hole" of information gathering, i am working to adjust the flow from just the internal STS dynamic of absorption to a move giving dynamic of radiation outward as my programs become nutralized and i return to what i feel is my natural state of BEing.
 

ironjam628

The Force is Strong With This One
It is hard when you are "in the moment" of a depression to recognize that it is an attack, or at the very least, an artificial state of being. It's always involuntary (the depressive episode), but it feels like a failing on my part everytime. Oh, geez, I am so going to be recycled to 3rd density due to these "feelings", and all the work that I have done on the self seems to go right out the window. I understand the we are sitting ducks(mostly) to all the "A" influences in our lives, but it is so hard sometimes to use the depression as a "stepping stone", and not fall into the trap of thinking I am not worthy of being a 4D candidate(if I can even consider myself that to begin with). All we can do is continue to seek knowledge, network(I am trying to quit the mold of lurker finally), and try to recognize that negative intense feelings CAN be used to further yourself, and are not there simply to let you know that you are wrong and shouldn't bother because then why would you feel this bad?
 

KJN

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
ironjam628 said:
It is hard when you are "in the moment" of a depression to recognize that it is an attack, or at the very least, an artificial state of being. It's always involuntary (the depressive episode), but it feels like a failing on my part everytime. Oh, geez, I am so going to be recycled to 3rd density due to these "feelings", and all the work that I have done on the self seems to go right out the window. I understand the we are sitting ducks(mostly) to all the "A" influences in our lives, but it is so hard sometimes to use the depression as a "stepping stone", and not fall into the trap of thinking I am not worthy of being a 4D candidate(if I can even consider myself that to begin with). All we can do is continue to seek knowledge, network(I am trying to quit the mold of lurker finally), and try to recognize that negative intense feelings CAN be used to further yourself, and are not there simply to let you know that you are wrong and shouldn't bother because then why would you feel this bad?
Maybe we could think of depression as a form of "emotional detox." In that regard, we are then utilizing the debilitating feelings as an opportunity to explore our emotional climate and equilibrium, rather than falling into the negative traps you mentioned above. Just an idea to reposition depression into something useful.
 

davey72

The Living Force
Q: (Andromeda) I have been having these dreams, but they aren't really dreams, they come when I am between being awake and asleep. I am fighting with an entity. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose. Is this an interior or an exterior entity?

Andromeda--Are you referring to sleep paralysis?
 

davey72

The Living Force
If the new locator is Rigel, then why are all the next sessions coming from cassiopaea again?
 

chaps23

Jedi Master
Laura said:
October 23, 2004

Laura, Ark, Perceval, Mr. Scott, Galahad, Atriedes, Andromeda, Alice {Laura’s Mother}, JM-guest

Q: (L) What happened to Cassiopaea?

A: Mother Cassiopaea has retired!

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: Far noon!

Q: (L) Were you ever in a human body?

A: Farnoon!

Q: (L) What does that maen?

A: Hello in Orion

Q: (L) What if we want to speak with the Cassiopaeans?

A: I will pass on the message.

Q: (L) Why did Cassiopaea retire?

A: 5 months ago there was a galatic explosion that disrupted the transmitter.

Q: (L) Are you an alien?

A: Other

Q: (L) What do you mean?

A: Density 6 piquawmns/for p5t oriaea.

Q: (L) That doesn't make any sense!

A: Not so! Must regroove.
Is this actually saying its the Orion's???? and that they are trying to regroove contact?

Hmmm... I'm not sure I trust this session at all.
 

Chopper

Jedi
Ok Davey72 It's in the transcrips more or less it's the C's handle and there going to keep it cause it works, evem tho the wave is moving thay tell all and keep the handle ,It's in at least 2 different sessions ...more reading for you ;) stay strong friend !

Chaps23 Regroveing is because the ppl on the board have changed ( and need regroveing) not because the C's changed iirc, also the C's take turns shareing energy ( different names every time ) & no regroveing needed then also in the transcrips ..... more reading for you too ;)

Heres one Chaps 23 : http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=20995.msg216903
Edit: another one helps explain...http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,20997.msg308689.html#top

Try and keep up guys I am the nube here lol...

Thanks Laura & team !
 
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