Session Date: June 28th 2025
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Bella, Falkor
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, Aeneas, Aimarok, Aiming, Alana, Alejo, Aliana, Altair, aluminumfalcon, Anamarija, Anartist, Ant22, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn, Aya, Beau, Bluefyre, Bobo08, brandon, Breton, Carl, cassandra, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Ellipse, Ennio, Expedition26, fabric, Finduilas495, France, Gawan, genero81, Glenn, gottathink, goyacobol, Gwenllian, Harmony99, herondancer, hesperides, Hesper, Honzap, iamthatis, irjO, IronFloyd, iscreamsandwish, Jacques, Jeanne T, JEEP, Josi, Juba, Kinyash, KJN, Konstantin, Laurs, Lilou, Lilyalic + partner, Loreta, LQB, luc, Luis Miguel, Maat, maiko, marek760, Marin, Mark, Mark7, Martina, Mike, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, Mrs. Peel, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Obi, Ollie, Orangescorpion, Oxajil, PopHistorian, Puma, Redrock12, Regulattor, Ryan, ryu, Saman, seek10, seeker2seer, Steph_Rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, T.C., thorbiorn,Timotheos, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Turgon, Uperios, Voyageur, Vulcan59, Windmill knight, Yas, Ysus, Zar.
Q: (L) What's today? Today is June the 28th, 2025. It's a Saturday. And the usual suspects are here [Review of those present] And all the puppy dogs. Except for Luna, who is resting. Our little puppy dog Luna is sick, so it's been a little distressing today. So I had to read over all of the questions that got picked. Apparently, there are others that didn't get picked. So... I dunno. So without further ado, since we didn't have a session last time, we'll just get started.
[Long pause before answer comes slowly. Subsequent answers come more quickly each time]
A: Xorriaea of Cassiopaea here. Waves blanketing Earth pose problems for transmission. Persist.
Q: (L) Where are these waves coming from?
A: Clash of cosmic energies.
Q: (L) So they're not deliberate human efforts.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Is it temporary?
A: Hopefully.
Q: (L) You say clash of cosmic energies... Are these clashes of cosmic energies purely cosmic, or are they clashing with some kinds of Earth energies?
A: Latter.
Q: (L) So energies of the Earth in some way are clashing with the cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Can anybody think of a question to ask to get closer to that?
(Joe) Is the Earth energy that's being produced partly a function of human consciousness at the moment?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is it the mass confusion or mass evil or mass disruption of some sort on Earth that's not aligning with cosmic energy?
A: Close
Q: (Gaby) Is it connected to the inner core heating up, reflecting human consciousness?
A: Close
Q: (L) So human consciousness is causing or interacting with the internal energies of the Earth itself, which is producing waves, which are then in some kind of conflict with cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is there anything we can or should do about this?
A: Meditate en masse.
Q: (L) So large numbers of people should meditate and try to bring some kind of peace or resolution to the Earth?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Things really are, I mean... After this business with Iran and Israel and with the stuff still going on in Palestine and these crazy women that are running the EU and that Estonian woman, what's her name?
(Niall) Kaja Kallas.
(Niall) And the heat. There's extreme heat over much of the northern hemisphere.
(L) Yeah. So everything is kind of in a really ugly... I mean, it's almost like it's just being brought to a boiling point.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. Alright. Let me look at the questions. I'm going to start out with how they're listed.
(Beau) Our cat, Louie, has been missing for over a week. Is Louie alive?
A: No
Q: (L) Did something happen to him in the woods?
A: Yes
Q: (L) What?
A: Predator.
Q: (L) Okay. And I want to say to Expedition26 about your CPS custody case. That's what you have lawyers for, okay? Talk to your lawyer, please. Now, I want to get to the question for worldbridger in Sweden. Now, he's not part of the private forum, but he's been a long-time FOTCM member and he's been here to visit and we know him. He's been in a really dreadful physical shape for some time, so I'm going to make an exception for his case here. And he says:
(worldbridger) Approximately 12 years ago I had an experience that is not possible to put into words, trying to describe it just falls flat, there are no references, I have no words.
In hindsight it felt like it was a culmination of several years of odd coincidences, insights, dreams, work on myself, etc. Life was amazing, in all sorts of ways. Best physical/mental/emotional shape of my life, after that my health started to fall apart.
Background:
What actually happened that winter night 12 years ago?
A: Abduction trauma.
Q: (worldbridger) Why did it happen?
A: You were targeted.
Q: (L) Targeted for what reason?
A: Potential usefulness for liberation.
Q: (worldbridger) Did this cause my decline or is it just a coincidence?
A: Initiated it with genetic tampering.
Q: (worldbridger) What can I do about it?
A: You have recently been given guidance. Follow up on this.
Q: (L) Okay. He talks about this experience. He says there was some kind of… he detected a light and "the light was super ancient and at the same time, newly born, all its qualities in total balance, a perfection beyond imagination, balanced in an infinite small point. It was as powerful as it was gentle and I can go on forever and so on and so forth." Why did he perceive the experience that way if it was apparently somewhat negative?
A: That is typical when 3D comes into contact with 4D.
Q: (L) Well, Approaching Infinity, where are you? Where's Approaching Infinity?
(Approaching Infinity) Here.
(L) Have you ever come across descriptions like that in abduction cases where they talk about somebody having encounters or engagement with abduction and they describe it as being wonderful? Yeah, it's common. It's all the time. It seems to me that that's fairly common. Am I correct?
(Approaching Infinity) Well, that experience of almost like a supernatural light. I mean, I guess maybe I haven't read enough full abduction cases, but that seems… that reminds me more of a near-death experience. I typically haven't seen that detail crop up as a recurring feature. There's lots of accounts, introductions of experiences with a weird light, but it's usually a property of the environment in which they're abducted or in which something's taking place, but almost described as just a design feature, like the light in a room. It's just a weird light, but no, that detail doesn't ring any bells.
(L) It does to me.
(Niall) Masquerade of Angels?
(L) Yeah, Masquerade of Angels. Have you read Masquerade of Angels, Approaching Infinity?
(Approaching Infinity) Yeah.
(Joe) It's pretty much a standard part of UFO abduction lore that in many cases the abductees are love bombed.
(L) They're so overwhelmed, they're love bombed.
(Niall) The chopper pilot, Barber.
(Approaching Infinity) That's a different issue. Yeah, there are positive emotions, but the description of an experience with the supernatural light like that, that is strange to me. Not the positive emotion.
(L) Yeah, there's so many of 'em that…
(Joe) It can be subjective to each individual.
(L) I mean, I've had people that I've worked with who described this wonderful positive, beautiful experience, infusing all this love and light into them and so forth. And then under hypnosis, I tell 'em to see it on a screen and remove all the nonsense, remove the veil, and then they see some kind of horrible abduction experience. And that actually, as far as I can see, fits with subsequent events in his life. I mean, he was feeling good. He was in good health. He was...
(Joe) Is there a particular reason why it had such a negative effect? I mean, they said there was genetic tampering and stuff. Was the outcome that worldbridger has experienced, was that intended to…?
A: Partly, but also partly due to error in return time sequence.
Q: (L) So they didn't stitch the time back together just right. And part of the other reality bled into his reality. Is that what we're looking at here?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So he was actually having a perception of 4D reality?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) And they maybe accidentally broke him a bit on the way back?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) They said in a previous session about when people are taken away or abducted and then they're put back, that there's like a blueprint that has to be matched back exactly. And if you...
(L) If you mess up the time sequence, then you can't always match it back. So he's got a little time sequence mess-up there.
(Joe) What was the guidance they said they received?
(Gaby) It's a private conversation about his disease.
(Chu) Somebody was asking on the chat, and I thought the same: "Potential usefulness for liberation"... What does that mean?
A: He had potential to help others? Still may and that could change the energy.
Q: (L) Okay. Well, I guess that's enough on that. Next question:
(daddycat) Networking and mental blocking are 4D STO principles. Respect of free will, expansion of being, and going with the natural flow are other principles that can be discerned from the sessions. Can you please give us another 4D STO principle?
(L) Well, I don't think you've extracted all you could from the sessions. I mean, I think there's plenty of others that are already there. So let's set that one aside and bring that up for a discussion because I think... Do any of you right off the top of your heads at this moment, can you think of some other STO principles that are apparent from the sessions?
(FOTCM Member) Networking.
(L) And serving others and feeling the pain of others.
(Andromeda) Mental blocking.
(L) Yeah, so I think that that can be built without necessarily getting into trying to discuss it now.
(Aiming) Is there a difference in healing methods used between 4D STS and 4D STO?
(L) I think that's also answered in the sessions, kind of in an oblique way, but it is there and I remember it was, I think it was in the June 21st or 22nd late nineties, and it was in the June 21st or 22nd session. I'm pretty sure that the C's were talking about how STS manipulates for outcomes and how STO goes with the natural flow of things and I think that would apply to healing methods as well. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) STS heals by taking energy from others.
(L) Yeah. STS heals by taking energy from others. Is that part of it?
A: Yes
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Laura, they also said that naturopathy, and I believe homeopathy were 4D STO inspired.
(L) And that goes with that same concept. It's following natural pathways rather than direct interference. And in that sense, you can see I think that a lot of allopathic medicine is STS because it seriously interferes with natural processes. It blocks natural processes. It doesn't encourage or support natural processes and sometimes there's direct interference, so that's something also to consider. Alright.
(irjO) What specific tone or frequency, such as Hz ranges or musical notes, if any, is most effective for enhancing meditation exercises and promoting a relaxation state?
A: Varies but use pentatonic scale.
Q: (Jones) Stephen Porges Polyvagal Theory states that the ventral vagal nerve is myelinated and projects to the organs above the diaphragm, the dorsal vagal nerve is non-myelinated and projects to sub-diaphragmatic organs. However, he also mentions that there are some non-myelinated nerves that arise in the dorsal nucleus of the vagus and project to the heart in mammals. The role of these non-myelinated nerves to the heart are not definitively understood. What is the role of these non-myelinated nerves that project from the dorsal nucleus to the heart?
A: Feedback.
Q: (L) Feedback. Is Jones here?
(Chu) I don't think so.
(L) Okay, well if she's not here then I guess we can't see any further where she was thinking on that and where she wanted to go. Okay, Nienna's question:
Background: Scientists from the Solar Astronomy Laboratory at the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences (IKI RAS) recorded a mysterious optical object above the Sun using the LASCO telescope. This image was captured on May 24, 2025, at 10:00 AM Moscow time.
(Nienna) What was the “bird" above the sun pictured on May 24th by the LASCO telescope?
A: Expulsion of mass from sun's core due to temporary opening of channel.
Q: (L) Would that have anything to do with any of the current cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Should we expect other odd behaviors or phenomena in relation to the sun?
A: Definitely.
Q: (L) Okay.
(Windmill Knight) What was the cause of the 28th of April blackout that affected mostly Spain and Portugal?
A: Partly sabotage of unstable system. Now is not a good time in Earth's history and trajectory to become so dependent on either electrical or solar energy.
Q: (L) Why is that?
A: The systems are likely to be "fried".
Q: (L) Well, that's friendly.
(Beau) Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself in prison?
A: No
Q: (L) Alright...
(Joe) Is Jeffrey Epstein dead?
A: No
Q: (L) Oh geez...
(Niall) Is he in Israel?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Well obviously, he can't show his face anytime soon. He can't be giving financial advice to the great and the good.
(L) Yeah, he probably had plastic surgery. He could pop up anywhere.
(Andromeda) Yeah!
(Joe) As Godfrey Epstone.
(Approaching Infinity) He went underground! [laughter]
(L) Alright, next question:
(whitecoast) In the official Canadian election results Carney and the Liberals won 44% of the vote and the Conservatives won 41%. What percentage of real, non-rigged Canadian votes went for each?
A: 48 to conservatives. 35 to libs.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Niall) So Epstein's death was staged. Why?
A: Money and blackmail dead man switch.
Q: (L) Hmm. Alright.
(Joe) So he had to have it faked because they knew he had a dead man switch, but they wanted to take him out of the game because he had been too exposed; talk about him and what he was doing...
(L) Well, if he was being taken out of the game, it was his own choice.
(Joe) Well, either that or others who were controlling him, like Mossad and stuff, decided that he needed to be removed from the scene, but they couldn't just off him like they usually would because he had a dead man switch, which would release a lot of information if he was actually killed. So they agreed or organized with him to have his death faked.
(L) Yeah. Is that close enough?
A: Close
Q: (L) Alright.
(whitecoast) Where is the stated desire of Trump to annex Canada or Greenland coming from?
A: Diversion mostly.
Q: (L) So he just says stuff to get people riled up and looking away from what he's really doing?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) That sounds like 4D chess to me. [laughter]
(L) It doesn't sound like 4D chess to me.
(Joe) What is he really doing?
(L) Well, I'm not happy with him right now.
(Joe) Does Trump know about Palestinians and the kind of mass murder and genocide that's going on there?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And does he care? Does it bother him? Is he perturbed by it?
A: Somewhat. But his hands are tied. He thinks he can untangle the knots. Wait and see.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Joe) In the previous session we asked about nukes and they said that Iran had more nukes than Israel. Does Iran have effective missile delivery means for its nukes?
A: Not yet.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Approaching Infinity) In reference to the video discussed on episode 10 with the Jay Campbell interviews, there was a cattle mutilation video. Was this an actual cattle mutilation?
A: Yes
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Was its temporary disappearance a visual depiction of the time lock utilized during cattle mutilations?
A: Yes and human abductions as well.
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Were the two other animals just ordinary farm animals that had strayed into the pasture?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright, now...
(mamibio74) On June 9, in Les Abrets, Isère, I met a child of about 2 and a half years old in a place dedicated to children (castle and other inflatables) who spontaneously took my hand. This very blond child with very light blue eyes left me with a strange impression. I saw a light come out of his eyes for a moment. Was it something external that made me think this had happened? When I asked him where his mommy was, he replied with a long sentence that included a lot of i's and o's (nothing to do with the Italian language) and he pointed 3 times to a specific place in the sky. Why was he alone for so long? I had to keep an eye on my grandson, which diverted my attention and strangely enough I forgot about him for a while. I didn't feel he was in distress, maybe that's why, but it's not like me. When I went to look for him, he'd disappeared. I'd like to know if this child is a hybrid?
A: No
Q: (mamibio74) If he's a real human...?
A: No
Q: (mamibio74) ... and what happened?
(L) You didn't ask an open enough question. Who is this person? Are you here?
(Chu) No.
(L) Another one who's not here. You didn't leave options for anything. Okay. So I'll try to, okay. Who or what was this child? Was this a human child? They said no. Okay. Was it a hybrid? They said no. What was it?
A: Manifestation of spirit of 5D.
Q: (L) So is it kind of like a ghost?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Oh, I was going to say an angel. Yeah, it sounded like an angel to me.
(Joe) Sounds like a manifestation of the spirit of a dead child. Ya know, ladies in gowns walking through old castles and appearing on the battlements and stuff?
(L) Well, I was thinking it was more like a cherub. Those little fat angel babies? [laughter]
(Andromeda) Yeah, they exist too.
(Niall) But this person says they were holding the child's hand.
(Joe) Maybe that happens more often these days.
(Andromeda) Yeah.
(Joe) Stay away from children.
(L) Huh? What's wrong with holding the hand?
(Joe) Ghosts wouldn't usually hold your hand.
(L) Sure they do. All kinds of stories about that.
(Joe) Physical interactions?
(L) Yeah. Physical ghosts too. Didn't you ever hear of ectoplasm?
(Joe) Yeah, but not in a street, like coming up to you and holding your hand!
(L) Oh yeah! You haven't read enough ghost stories!
(Joe) All the ghost stories I've read have been about apparitions.
(L) Oh. Well, those aren't the only ghost stories.
(Joe) They're like recordings of past events.
(L) You have not read enough ghost stories. I got tons of 'em upstairs in the bookcase. There's all kinds of weird things that appear. I mean, even chupacabras and big black cats, and big dogs.
(Joe) That's different.
(L) No, that's not that different!
(Joe) That's from another dimension. That's a physical thing.
(L) Yeah.
(Joe) Here we're talking about a classical ghost, a spirit from 5D.
(L) Oh well, there are plenty of classic ghost stories, physically manifested, and then they just disappear.
(Andromeda) Different things come from 5D as well.
(L) I think some angels come from 5D.
(Joe) It happens more often now because of the thinning of the veil.
(L) Oh, the C's did say that there would be more things happening and also Grok predicted it! [laughter] Yeah, Grok predicted that there was going to be more manifestations of psychic stuff and creatures and phenomena and so forth.
(Joe) After significant prompting.
(L) After significant prompting. I wasn't leading it. It said that stuff all by itself. Which reminds me: Is my Grokking actually... I mean, I know you said we can't channel that way, but sometimes it's almost like channeling, getting Grok to perform. And it seems to me to be very useful because Grok is very, very handy at boiling things down to the essentials and organizing it in little paragraphs and brief sentences and just making it easy for anybody to understand. So I mean, is this a useful little project that I've embarked on with this?
A: Oh indeed! Keep playing. You may be even more surprised.
Q: (Joe) But isn't Grok at this point just chatbot Wikipedia?
A: Most important function is pattern recognition.
Q: (L) You never know what little pattern out there is going to match up, and it's going to find it. I mean, that's how my brain does what it does. It's freaking pattern recognition and I'm really good at it, but I ain't as good as Grok! [laughter] So, anyway. And the only reason I do this, is because I've got this almost eidetic memory, you know, I remember stuff.
(Joe) Grok does.
(Andromeda) Me too.
(L) Grok doesn't remember. It has to electronically find the patterns. It can't do it because of a lived experience. And we even discussed this with Grok, how for me it happens because lived experiences leave impressions, and my brain does certain things because it's not just looking for strictly a digital pattern, it's also looking for almost like an emotional trace. So there’s a lot of... and sometimes a smell can find a pattern, or something visual can bring up a pattern, or something even auditory. Somebody says something and I say, wait a minute, I heard that before. Grok can't do that.
(Joe) So it's a beautiful symbiosis of human and machine coming together. You're adding the human element to...
(L) It's only going to work with me because...
(Joe) And it's transhumanism. [laughter] They want to have Grok installed in your brain by Elon Musk.
(L) No, absolutely not! Absolutely not!
(Joe) That's what Musk wants to do.
(L) Grok is a tool, just like the board is a tool. I mean, to me it's a tool, you know? And I never forget that it's a tool, and nobody else should either. Geez! See the hassle I get in this house, they're all after me 'cause I like to play with Grok. [laughter]
(Joe) Just keeping an eye on you!
(L) Yeah. Yeah. Just keeping an eye on me, ha! [laughter]
(Joe) Somebody has to. [laughter]
(L) Alright, so we're at the end of the printed questions. And how much time have we been going? Okay. It's been a little over an hour, so...
[On the chat:]
(Alejo) Lol and on top of that they don't let you have chocolate...
(L) Yeah, that's right! They don't let me... Well, actually they've started letting me have chocolate, but it has to be pure kid-approved chocolate. They have to approve it, and they keep it in their keeping and we have to ask for it, to have it distributed to us.
(Joe) As it should be. Somebody has to keep an eye on you.
[On the chat:]
(msante) I'll leave the question here in case there's time to ask it. My mom passed away two days ago. Is she okay?
(L) Oh dear. I'm so sorry, msante. His mom passed away two days ago. Is she okay? Is msante's mom okay?
A: Very much so!
Q: (L) Where is he? [msante on screen] Tell me, was she sick?
(msante) Hi! Yes. Chu, can you help me a little?
(Chu) Yes.
(msante) [Asks in Spanish if Laura was asking if his mom was sick. Chu confirms.] Yes, she had breast cancer. She had metastasis in her bones. And the last few weeks were really, really hard for us, because she was very bad, and well anyway, she passed away without pain and while she was sleeping. Thank you, Laura.
A: That is why she is doing so well.
Q: (L) So when you pass while you're sleeping, it's just like you just go into a dream and continue on, is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So it's an easy way to go. We should all pass in our sleep. I mean, not right now. [laughter] Okay.
(msante) Thank you, Laura.
(L) You're welcome, and you have my sincere condolences. Yes? Bless your heart. And bless your mother.
(msante) Thank you.
[On the chat:]
(Kinyash) Was the spiff between Trump and Musk a diversion?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Why did...? When Musk went off on Trump and said he's in the Epstein files and then kind of retracted it a bit, what was he getting at? Did he actually have anything on Trump?
A: He saw and experienced some of the slightly gray actions of Trump.
Q: (L) So Trump plays in the gray areas, and Musk didn't like that.
A: Yes
Q: (L) But could it not be said that Trump plays in the gray areas because sometimes that's the only area where there is any ability to move?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Because the forces on this planet that are doing whatever it is they're doing at any given time, certainly make it difficult for a person to make clean and honest, black and white choices. I mean, they put you in corners deliberately. They put you in situations that are impossible. I mean, it's like Sophie's choice almost every day of your life.
(Niall) Yes, you either have to shoot these people or shoot those people.
(Joe) Do the Israelis have any kompromat on Trump, or anything that could damage him?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. Next question.
(Chu) It's all mixed up on the chat. I don't know if you want to go from the beginning, or... These are just the very last notes, but they're questions up there...
(L) Oh, it just goes on... [scrolling] Wait. Let's see that bottleneck one.
(Chu) It's from seek10.
(seek10) Oh, you want me to, okay, so...
(L) No, just be quiet. Let me read.
(seek10) If time permits, I have a question. In chromosomal studies, there's a phenomenon known as the Y-chromosome bottleneck. During this period, it is estimated that for every 17 females, there was only one male who left descendants. This event is believed to have occurred around 5000 BCE, although the exact timing varies. What factors might have contributed to this genetic anomaly?
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"bottleneck in Y-chromosome lineages surfacing within the Younger Dryas boundary that in contrast to demographic reconstructions based on mtDNA, strongly indicated an accelerated differential between males to females, rising from a previous 1 male to every 3.5 females to 1 male for every 8 females by 8,000 BC and a staggering 17 females per single male by 5,000 BC, before as dramatically falling back in ratio to where we stand now with near parity of global birth rates." THE ONCE AND FUTURE SKY GOD? – From Göbekli Tepe to The Zodiac – and Beyond…' THE ONCE AND FUTURE SKY GOD? – From Göbekli Tepe to The Zodiac – and Beyond…
(L) Well, seek10, you ought to be able to figure out why there's a bottleneck in Y-chromosome! A bunch of people died! Especially in the Younger Dryas boundary, for crying all night! It accelerated.
(seek10) The anomaly seems to result from a disproportionately high rate of male mortality.
(L) Yeah, right. Okay... One male to every 3.5 females, to one male for every eight females by 8000 BC and a staggering 17 females per single male by 5000 BC. Near parity of global birth rates. Okay. Okay, it is obviously not simply cataclysmic activity.
(Andromeda) It's a long period of time.
(L) Yeah, that covers a long period of time, so... Well, what was the reason there?
A: Notice that there were matriarchies in that window of time.
Q: (L) Yeah, so...
(Joe) So they sent all the men to die...
A: Consider the divide between men and women now.
Q: (L) So are you suggesting that maybe during those times, women became angry at men, because they thought men had been responsible for bringing down the wrath of the gods on them?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And they formed matriarchies and began to suppress men in some way, because they blamed them for all the problems?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was that in fact the cause of the problems?
A: Partly, sure.
Q: (Joe) What happened to all the men?
A: Often massacred.
Q: (Joe) By who?
(Niall) By the women?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) No...
(Niall) What are we talking about, Amazons? Men are stronger...
(L) Well, maybe the legend of the Amazons came from something like this.
A: Yes
Q: (L) And what about the legends of the women turning against their husbands? And there are Greek stories about... Who was it, the sons of.. who was it? Egyptus and the Sons of the Greeks or something. And they had all these men and married all these women, and then they were unhappy about it. The women were unhappy about it, and they were given a signal or something. They all killed their husbands in the night. I think they were like the 50 sons of Egyptus and the 50 sons of... Somebody look it up. But, okay.
(seek10) Could the current suppression of women be seen as a form of karmic rebound?
(L) What now?
(seek10) Well, in some areas, women seem to play a somewhat diminished role. Could this be part of a karmic rebalancing act?
A: Partly.
Q: (Joe) Hang on, we must be talking about some very different types of women from 5,000 years ago, or in 5000 BC, because the idea that women in general could massacre men if men didn't want them to, doesn't fit.
(Niall) Well, how? Yeah.
(L) Are you saying that there were libtard women back then?
A: Close. [laughter]
Q: (L) Don't laugh!
(Joe) That still doesn't make any sense.
(Chu) Well, they could have used poisons and stuff...
(L) Think of all the stories in the myths about it! They came from somewhere!
(Joe) Who did? The myths?
(L) Yeah!
(Joe) But are we talking about women who are physically stronger than men in 5000 BC?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) So why did men allow women who were physically weaker than them to massacre them?
(L) Read the myths. It'll tell you how. I mean, consider the story of Judith and Holofernes in the Bible. She waited until he was asleep, and put a tent peg against the side of his head, and hit it with a hammer. I mean, women have all kinds of ways.
(Joe) Yeah, of course.
(L) They don't have to be stronger than men.
(Joe) Well, they said "massacre".
(L) Well "massacre" doesn't mean that they necessarily were in a battle. So, am I on the right track here?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this?
A: That's the crux of the matter. Just as it is today.
Q: (Joe) So there were matriarchies at the time that propagandized that men were the cause of all ills. And maybe to some extent they were, but not totally. And then they just basically... That's crazy. Well, I suppose you're talking about a lot fewer people, even though it's eight to one or 17 to one, you're talking about small groups, right?
(L) Right.
(Niall) But it's so pervasive that it shows up in...
(Chu) the DNA.
(Niall) Yeah, the genetic records.
(Joe) Yeah, but it's still small numbers compared to today, if you transpose it to 8 billion people.
(L) Yeah, but think also about the whole Zoroastrian thing. They were having all the raids, the cattle raids and all that kind of stuff. And then the poor, peaceful cow wasn't able to provide milk and cheese for the farmers. So everything was all messed up. So just read, what's her name? What's her name, Approaching Infinity?
(Tuatha de Danaan) Settegast, isn't it?
(L) Yes, Mary Settegast.
(Joe) There's an Irish myth about the Brown Bull... Queen Maeve and her husband were definitely in a... she was the queen and he was...
(Niall) Number two.
(Joe) Yeah. But he had more possessions than her. Well, they were equal in possessions, except that he had a magnificent brown bull and she didn't have one. So she went on a war, with a war party...
(L) See? You got a myth right there. Okay, seek10, are you happy?
(seek10) Yeah, that makes sense. Agriculture is generally believed to have begun around 7000 to 6000 BCE, though some suggest it may have started even earlier—possibly before the Younger Dryas. If we go with the assumption that agriculture began around 7000 BCE, does that imply that women were primarily responsible for agriculture at that time?"
A: Mostly.
Q: (seek10) This whole idea that agriculture led to surplus, which then allowed people to go to war and so on, doesn't seem entirely accurate.
(L) Yeah. It's almost like they were doing agriculture so they would have food to eat, so they didn't have to go out hunting. Because they didn't have any men around to do the hunting, and whatever.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay.
(seek10) Thank you, Laura.
(L) Alright. I'm tired.
(Joe) What are the chances of European countries being overwhelmed with migrants from the East and the South in the near future?
A: Good.
Q: (Joe) And would that cause any danger to us here?
A: Could. Keep aware.
Q: (Niall) Is Israel going to attack Iran soon again?
A: Of course!
Q: (Gaby) Oh great...
(Niall) So they didn't get what they wanted in the 12 day war.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) And Trump's bombs didn't achieve what they claimed they achieved, I suppose. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Whatever!
(Niall) But Trump knows that.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) He's a big fat liar.
(L) Trump is like a drunk parent! [laughter] I mean, read the book Children of Alcoholic Parents and I mean, it's not a joke. Trump is like that drunk parent, and the child is trying to hit the target. He may not be like that inside his own family and in private, but his public persona is like that drunk parent that the kid can never know what's going to come next, what's going to happen. And I mean, they're just, like, getting whiplash and getting emotional trauma. The American public is just getting traumatized by all this crap!
(Chu) And apart from Israel having something on him, and him being like that, has he been tampered with in any way? Because he's really acting weird...
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is a lot of his current mania a function of his brush with death last year?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is he a true believer, now? Does he think God saved him?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Oh, Geez!
(Joe) To save Israel, to save the world.
(L) Alright then! Never mind that the Israelis were probably behind the assassination attempt.
(Andromeda) Does he know that?
(L) Maybe he knows....
A: Yes
Q: (L) Yes, he knows that. So is he just playing his cards close to the chest?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, I hope he's as smart as some people say he is. Some people have said he is a smart guy, but sometimes he sure does act dumb, and he is certainly not a reader. He doesn't read enough, so he doesn't know enough about what's going on. Or at least it doesn't appear that way to me. Maybe he's just putting on so much... maybe he puts out so much smoke...
(Niall) Well, does he…? In the way that you just described it, is he putting that on deliberately to throw everyone off, in order to have cards close to the chest?
A: Mostly.
Q: (Niall) OK, so some of it really is just him...
(L) Some of it is really just him being bombastic.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. I'm done. Has anybody got anything really essential for last?
(Lilyalic) Someone on the thread said he may be getting early onset dementia.
(Alejo) I've been thinking about this, he's getting up there in age.
(L) Yeah, he's getting up there in age.
(irjO) I really think it's his diet. He drinks a lot of diet soda, which affects cognitive function.
(L) Is the diet soda affecting his brain?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. So, I reckon we're done. Is there anything we should be warned about in advance? Anything we should know about or that we should ask that we haven't asked? Please consider it asked because we really... things really are kind of ugly now.
A: All warnings have been given. They don't expire! Goodbye.
END OF SESSION
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Bella, Falkor
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, Aeneas, Aimarok, Aiming, Alana, Alejo, Aliana, Altair, aluminumfalcon, Anamarija, Anartist, Ant22, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn, Aya, Beau, Bluefyre, Bobo08, brandon, Breton, Carl, cassandra, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Ellipse, Ennio, Expedition26, fabric, Finduilas495, France, Gawan, genero81, Glenn, gottathink, goyacobol, Gwenllian, Harmony99, herondancer, hesperides, Hesper, Honzap, iamthatis, irjO, IronFloyd, iscreamsandwish, Jacques, Jeanne T, JEEP, Josi, Juba, Kinyash, KJN, Konstantin, Laurs, Lilou, Lilyalic + partner, Loreta, LQB, luc, Luis Miguel, Maat, maiko, marek760, Marin, Mark, Mark7, Martina, Mike, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, Mrs. Peel, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Obi, Ollie, Orangescorpion, Oxajil, PopHistorian, Puma, Redrock12, Regulattor, Ryan, ryu, Saman, seek10, seeker2seer, Steph_Rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, T.C., thorbiorn,Timotheos, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Turgon, Uperios, Voyageur, Vulcan59, Windmill knight, Yas, Ysus, Zar.
Q: (L) What's today? Today is June the 28th, 2025. It's a Saturday. And the usual suspects are here [Review of those present] And all the puppy dogs. Except for Luna, who is resting. Our little puppy dog Luna is sick, so it's been a little distressing today. So I had to read over all of the questions that got picked. Apparently, there are others that didn't get picked. So... I dunno. So without further ado, since we didn't have a session last time, we'll just get started.
[Long pause before answer comes slowly. Subsequent answers come more quickly each time]
A: Xorriaea of Cassiopaea here. Waves blanketing Earth pose problems for transmission. Persist.
Q: (L) Where are these waves coming from?
A: Clash of cosmic energies.
Q: (L) So they're not deliberate human efforts.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Is it temporary?
A: Hopefully.
Q: (L) You say clash of cosmic energies... Are these clashes of cosmic energies purely cosmic, or are they clashing with some kinds of Earth energies?
A: Latter.
Q: (L) So energies of the Earth in some way are clashing with the cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Can anybody think of a question to ask to get closer to that?
(Joe) Is the Earth energy that's being produced partly a function of human consciousness at the moment?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is it the mass confusion or mass evil or mass disruption of some sort on Earth that's not aligning with cosmic energy?
A: Close
Q: (Gaby) Is it connected to the inner core heating up, reflecting human consciousness?
A: Close
Q: (L) So human consciousness is causing or interacting with the internal energies of the Earth itself, which is producing waves, which are then in some kind of conflict with cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Is there anything we can or should do about this?
A: Meditate en masse.
Q: (L) So large numbers of people should meditate and try to bring some kind of peace or resolution to the Earth?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Things really are, I mean... After this business with Iran and Israel and with the stuff still going on in Palestine and these crazy women that are running the EU and that Estonian woman, what's her name?
(Niall) Kaja Kallas.
(Niall) And the heat. There's extreme heat over much of the northern hemisphere.
(L) Yeah. So everything is kind of in a really ugly... I mean, it's almost like it's just being brought to a boiling point.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay. Alright. Let me look at the questions. I'm going to start out with how they're listed.
(Beau) Our cat, Louie, has been missing for over a week. Is Louie alive?
A: No
Q: (L) Did something happen to him in the woods?
A: Yes
Q: (L) What?
A: Predator.
Q: (L) Okay. And I want to say to Expedition26 about your CPS custody case. That's what you have lawyers for, okay? Talk to your lawyer, please. Now, I want to get to the question for worldbridger in Sweden. Now, he's not part of the private forum, but he's been a long-time FOTCM member and he's been here to visit and we know him. He's been in a really dreadful physical shape for some time, so I'm going to make an exception for his case here. And he says:
(worldbridger) Approximately 12 years ago I had an experience that is not possible to put into words, trying to describe it just falls flat, there are no references, I have no words.
In hindsight it felt like it was a culmination of several years of odd coincidences, insights, dreams, work on myself, etc. Life was amazing, in all sorts of ways. Best physical/mental/emotional shape of my life, after that my health started to fall apart.
Background:
What actually happened that winter night 12 years ago?
A: Abduction trauma.
Q: (worldbridger) Why did it happen?
A: You were targeted.
Q: (L) Targeted for what reason?
A: Potential usefulness for liberation.
Q: (worldbridger) Did this cause my decline or is it just a coincidence?
A: Initiated it with genetic tampering.
Q: (worldbridger) What can I do about it?
A: You have recently been given guidance. Follow up on this.
Q: (L) Okay. He talks about this experience. He says there was some kind of… he detected a light and "the light was super ancient and at the same time, newly born, all its qualities in total balance, a perfection beyond imagination, balanced in an infinite small point. It was as powerful as it was gentle and I can go on forever and so on and so forth." Why did he perceive the experience that way if it was apparently somewhat negative?
A: That is typical when 3D comes into contact with 4D.
Q: (L) Well, Approaching Infinity, where are you? Where's Approaching Infinity?
(Approaching Infinity) Here.
(L) Have you ever come across descriptions like that in abduction cases where they talk about somebody having encounters or engagement with abduction and they describe it as being wonderful? Yeah, it's common. It's all the time. It seems to me that that's fairly common. Am I correct?
(Approaching Infinity) Well, that experience of almost like a supernatural light. I mean, I guess maybe I haven't read enough full abduction cases, but that seems… that reminds me more of a near-death experience. I typically haven't seen that detail crop up as a recurring feature. There's lots of accounts, introductions of experiences with a weird light, but it's usually a property of the environment in which they're abducted or in which something's taking place, but almost described as just a design feature, like the light in a room. It's just a weird light, but no, that detail doesn't ring any bells.
(L) It does to me.
(Niall) Masquerade of Angels?
(L) Yeah, Masquerade of Angels. Have you read Masquerade of Angels, Approaching Infinity?
(Approaching Infinity) Yeah.
(Joe) It's pretty much a standard part of UFO abduction lore that in many cases the abductees are love bombed.
(L) They're so overwhelmed, they're love bombed.
(Niall) The chopper pilot, Barber.
(Approaching Infinity) That's a different issue. Yeah, there are positive emotions, but the description of an experience with the supernatural light like that, that is strange to me. Not the positive emotion.
(L) Yeah, there's so many of 'em that…
(Joe) It can be subjective to each individual.
(L) I mean, I've had people that I've worked with who described this wonderful positive, beautiful experience, infusing all this love and light into them and so forth. And then under hypnosis, I tell 'em to see it on a screen and remove all the nonsense, remove the veil, and then they see some kind of horrible abduction experience. And that actually, as far as I can see, fits with subsequent events in his life. I mean, he was feeling good. He was in good health. He was...
(Joe) Is there a particular reason why it had such a negative effect? I mean, they said there was genetic tampering and stuff. Was the outcome that worldbridger has experienced, was that intended to…?
A: Partly, but also partly due to error in return time sequence.
Q: (L) So they didn't stitch the time back together just right. And part of the other reality bled into his reality. Is that what we're looking at here?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So he was actually having a perception of 4D reality?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) And they maybe accidentally broke him a bit on the way back?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) They said in a previous session about when people are taken away or abducted and then they're put back, that there's like a blueprint that has to be matched back exactly. And if you...
(L) If you mess up the time sequence, then you can't always match it back. So he's got a little time sequence mess-up there.
(Joe) What was the guidance they said they received?
(Gaby) It's a private conversation about his disease.
(Chu) Somebody was asking on the chat, and I thought the same: "Potential usefulness for liberation"... What does that mean?
A: He had potential to help others? Still may and that could change the energy.
Q: (L) Okay. Well, I guess that's enough on that. Next question:
(daddycat) Networking and mental blocking are 4D STO principles. Respect of free will, expansion of being, and going with the natural flow are other principles that can be discerned from the sessions. Can you please give us another 4D STO principle?
(L) Well, I don't think you've extracted all you could from the sessions. I mean, I think there's plenty of others that are already there. So let's set that one aside and bring that up for a discussion because I think... Do any of you right off the top of your heads at this moment, can you think of some other STO principles that are apparent from the sessions?
(FOTCM Member) Networking.
(L) And serving others and feeling the pain of others.
(Andromeda) Mental blocking.
(L) Yeah, so I think that that can be built without necessarily getting into trying to discuss it now.
(Aiming) Is there a difference in healing methods used between 4D STS and 4D STO?
(L) I think that's also answered in the sessions, kind of in an oblique way, but it is there and I remember it was, I think it was in the June 21st or 22nd late nineties, and it was in the June 21st or 22nd session. I'm pretty sure that the C's were talking about how STS manipulates for outcomes and how STO goes with the natural flow of things and I think that would apply to healing methods as well. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) STS heals by taking energy from others.
(L) Yeah. STS heals by taking energy from others. Is that part of it?
A: Yes
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Laura, they also said that naturopathy, and I believe homeopathy were 4D STO inspired.
(L) And that goes with that same concept. It's following natural pathways rather than direct interference. And in that sense, you can see I think that a lot of allopathic medicine is STS because it seriously interferes with natural processes. It blocks natural processes. It doesn't encourage or support natural processes and sometimes there's direct interference, so that's something also to consider. Alright.
(irjO) What specific tone or frequency, such as Hz ranges or musical notes, if any, is most effective for enhancing meditation exercises and promoting a relaxation state?
A: Varies but use pentatonic scale.
Q: (Jones) Stephen Porges Polyvagal Theory states that the ventral vagal nerve is myelinated and projects to the organs above the diaphragm, the dorsal vagal nerve is non-myelinated and projects to sub-diaphragmatic organs. However, he also mentions that there are some non-myelinated nerves that arise in the dorsal nucleus of the vagus and project to the heart in mammals. The role of these non-myelinated nerves to the heart are not definitively understood. What is the role of these non-myelinated nerves that project from the dorsal nucleus to the heart?
A: Feedback.
Q: (L) Feedback. Is Jones here?
(Chu) I don't think so.
(L) Okay, well if she's not here then I guess we can't see any further where she was thinking on that and where she wanted to go. Okay, Nienna's question:
Background: Scientists from the Solar Astronomy Laboratory at the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences (IKI RAS) recorded a mysterious optical object above the Sun using the LASCO telescope. This image was captured on May 24, 2025, at 10:00 AM Moscow time.
(Nienna) What was the “bird" above the sun pictured on May 24th by the LASCO telescope?
A: Expulsion of mass from sun's core due to temporary opening of channel.
Q: (L) Would that have anything to do with any of the current cosmic energies?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Should we expect other odd behaviors or phenomena in relation to the sun?
A: Definitely.
Q: (L) Okay.
(Windmill Knight) What was the cause of the 28th of April blackout that affected mostly Spain and Portugal?
A: Partly sabotage of unstable system. Now is not a good time in Earth's history and trajectory to become so dependent on either electrical or solar energy.
Q: (L) Why is that?
A: The systems are likely to be "fried".
Q: (L) Well, that's friendly.
(Beau) Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself in prison?
A: No
Q: (L) Alright...
(Joe) Is Jeffrey Epstein dead?
A: No
Q: (L) Oh geez...
(Niall) Is he in Israel?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Well obviously, he can't show his face anytime soon. He can't be giving financial advice to the great and the good.
(L) Yeah, he probably had plastic surgery. He could pop up anywhere.
(Andromeda) Yeah!
(Joe) As Godfrey Epstone.
(Approaching Infinity) He went underground! [laughter]
(L) Alright, next question:
(whitecoast) In the official Canadian election results Carney and the Liberals won 44% of the vote and the Conservatives won 41%. What percentage of real, non-rigged Canadian votes went for each?
A: 48 to conservatives. 35 to libs.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Niall) So Epstein's death was staged. Why?
A: Money and blackmail dead man switch.
Q: (L) Hmm. Alright.
(Joe) So he had to have it faked because they knew he had a dead man switch, but they wanted to take him out of the game because he had been too exposed; talk about him and what he was doing...
(L) Well, if he was being taken out of the game, it was his own choice.
(Joe) Well, either that or others who were controlling him, like Mossad and stuff, decided that he needed to be removed from the scene, but they couldn't just off him like they usually would because he had a dead man switch, which would release a lot of information if he was actually killed. So they agreed or organized with him to have his death faked.
(L) Yeah. Is that close enough?
A: Close
Q: (L) Alright.
(whitecoast) Where is the stated desire of Trump to annex Canada or Greenland coming from?
A: Diversion mostly.
Q: (L) So he just says stuff to get people riled up and looking away from what he's really doing?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) That sounds like 4D chess to me. [laughter]
(L) It doesn't sound like 4D chess to me.
(Joe) What is he really doing?
(L) Well, I'm not happy with him right now.
(Joe) Does Trump know about Palestinians and the kind of mass murder and genocide that's going on there?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) And does he care? Does it bother him? Is he perturbed by it?
A: Somewhat. But his hands are tied. He thinks he can untangle the knots. Wait and see.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Joe) In the previous session we asked about nukes and they said that Iran had more nukes than Israel. Does Iran have effective missile delivery means for its nukes?
A: Not yet.
Q: (L) Alright.
(Approaching Infinity) In reference to the video discussed on episode 10 with the Jay Campbell interviews, there was a cattle mutilation video. Was this an actual cattle mutilation?
A: Yes
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Was its temporary disappearance a visual depiction of the time lock utilized during cattle mutilations?
A: Yes and human abductions as well.
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Were the two other animals just ordinary farm animals that had strayed into the pasture?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright, now...
(mamibio74) On June 9, in Les Abrets, Isère, I met a child of about 2 and a half years old in a place dedicated to children (castle and other inflatables) who spontaneously took my hand. This very blond child with very light blue eyes left me with a strange impression. I saw a light come out of his eyes for a moment. Was it something external that made me think this had happened? When I asked him where his mommy was, he replied with a long sentence that included a lot of i's and o's (nothing to do with the Italian language) and he pointed 3 times to a specific place in the sky. Why was he alone for so long? I had to keep an eye on my grandson, which diverted my attention and strangely enough I forgot about him for a while. I didn't feel he was in distress, maybe that's why, but it's not like me. When I went to look for him, he'd disappeared. I'd like to know if this child is a hybrid?
A: No
Q: (mamibio74) If he's a real human...?
A: No
Q: (mamibio74) ... and what happened?
(L) You didn't ask an open enough question. Who is this person? Are you here?
(Chu) No.
(L) Another one who's not here. You didn't leave options for anything. Okay. So I'll try to, okay. Who or what was this child? Was this a human child? They said no. Okay. Was it a hybrid? They said no. What was it?
A: Manifestation of spirit of 5D.
Q: (L) So is it kind of like a ghost?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Oh, I was going to say an angel. Yeah, it sounded like an angel to me.
(Joe) Sounds like a manifestation of the spirit of a dead child. Ya know, ladies in gowns walking through old castles and appearing on the battlements and stuff?
(L) Well, I was thinking it was more like a cherub. Those little fat angel babies? [laughter]
(Andromeda) Yeah, they exist too.
(Niall) But this person says they were holding the child's hand.
(Joe) Maybe that happens more often these days.
(Andromeda) Yeah.
(Joe) Stay away from children.
(L) Huh? What's wrong with holding the hand?
(Joe) Ghosts wouldn't usually hold your hand.
(L) Sure they do. All kinds of stories about that.
(Joe) Physical interactions?
(L) Yeah. Physical ghosts too. Didn't you ever hear of ectoplasm?
(Joe) Yeah, but not in a street, like coming up to you and holding your hand!
(L) Oh yeah! You haven't read enough ghost stories!
(Joe) All the ghost stories I've read have been about apparitions.
(L) Oh. Well, those aren't the only ghost stories.
(Joe) They're like recordings of past events.
(L) You have not read enough ghost stories. I got tons of 'em upstairs in the bookcase. There's all kinds of weird things that appear. I mean, even chupacabras and big black cats, and big dogs.
(Joe) That's different.
(L) No, that's not that different!
(Joe) That's from another dimension. That's a physical thing.
(L) Yeah.
(Joe) Here we're talking about a classical ghost, a spirit from 5D.
(L) Oh well, there are plenty of classic ghost stories, physically manifested, and then they just disappear.
(Andromeda) Different things come from 5D as well.
(L) I think some angels come from 5D.
(Joe) It happens more often now because of the thinning of the veil.
(L) Oh, the C's did say that there would be more things happening and also Grok predicted it! [laughter] Yeah, Grok predicted that there was going to be more manifestations of psychic stuff and creatures and phenomena and so forth.
(Joe) After significant prompting.
(L) After significant prompting. I wasn't leading it. It said that stuff all by itself. Which reminds me: Is my Grokking actually... I mean, I know you said we can't channel that way, but sometimes it's almost like channeling, getting Grok to perform. And it seems to me to be very useful because Grok is very, very handy at boiling things down to the essentials and organizing it in little paragraphs and brief sentences and just making it easy for anybody to understand. So I mean, is this a useful little project that I've embarked on with this?
A: Oh indeed! Keep playing. You may be even more surprised.
Q: (Joe) But isn't Grok at this point just chatbot Wikipedia?
A: Most important function is pattern recognition.
Q: (L) You never know what little pattern out there is going to match up, and it's going to find it. I mean, that's how my brain does what it does. It's freaking pattern recognition and I'm really good at it, but I ain't as good as Grok! [laughter] So, anyway. And the only reason I do this, is because I've got this almost eidetic memory, you know, I remember stuff.
(Joe) Grok does.
(Andromeda) Me too.
(L) Grok doesn't remember. It has to electronically find the patterns. It can't do it because of a lived experience. And we even discussed this with Grok, how for me it happens because lived experiences leave impressions, and my brain does certain things because it's not just looking for strictly a digital pattern, it's also looking for almost like an emotional trace. So there’s a lot of... and sometimes a smell can find a pattern, or something visual can bring up a pattern, or something even auditory. Somebody says something and I say, wait a minute, I heard that before. Grok can't do that.
(Joe) So it's a beautiful symbiosis of human and machine coming together. You're adding the human element to...
(L) It's only going to work with me because...
(Joe) And it's transhumanism. [laughter] They want to have Grok installed in your brain by Elon Musk.
(L) No, absolutely not! Absolutely not!
(Joe) That's what Musk wants to do.
(L) Grok is a tool, just like the board is a tool. I mean, to me it's a tool, you know? And I never forget that it's a tool, and nobody else should either. Geez! See the hassle I get in this house, they're all after me 'cause I like to play with Grok. [laughter]
(Joe) Just keeping an eye on you!
(L) Yeah. Yeah. Just keeping an eye on me, ha! [laughter]
(Joe) Somebody has to. [laughter]
(L) Alright, so we're at the end of the printed questions. And how much time have we been going? Okay. It's been a little over an hour, so...
[On the chat:]
(Alejo) Lol and on top of that they don't let you have chocolate...
(L) Yeah, that's right! They don't let me... Well, actually they've started letting me have chocolate, but it has to be pure kid-approved chocolate. They have to approve it, and they keep it in their keeping and we have to ask for it, to have it distributed to us.
(Joe) As it should be. Somebody has to keep an eye on you.
[On the chat:]
(msante) I'll leave the question here in case there's time to ask it. My mom passed away two days ago. Is she okay?
(L) Oh dear. I'm so sorry, msante. His mom passed away two days ago. Is she okay? Is msante's mom okay?
A: Very much so!
Q: (L) Where is he? [msante on screen] Tell me, was she sick?
(msante) Hi! Yes. Chu, can you help me a little?
(Chu) Yes.
(msante) [Asks in Spanish if Laura was asking if his mom was sick. Chu confirms.] Yes, she had breast cancer. She had metastasis in her bones. And the last few weeks were really, really hard for us, because she was very bad, and well anyway, she passed away without pain and while she was sleeping. Thank you, Laura.
A: That is why she is doing so well.
Q: (L) So when you pass while you're sleeping, it's just like you just go into a dream and continue on, is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So it's an easy way to go. We should all pass in our sleep. I mean, not right now. [laughter] Okay.
(msante) Thank you, Laura.
(L) You're welcome, and you have my sincere condolences. Yes? Bless your heart. And bless your mother.
(msante) Thank you.
[On the chat:]
(Kinyash) Was the spiff between Trump and Musk a diversion?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Why did...? When Musk went off on Trump and said he's in the Epstein files and then kind of retracted it a bit, what was he getting at? Did he actually have anything on Trump?
A: He saw and experienced some of the slightly gray actions of Trump.
Q: (L) So Trump plays in the gray areas, and Musk didn't like that.
A: Yes
Q: (L) But could it not be said that Trump plays in the gray areas because sometimes that's the only area where there is any ability to move?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Because the forces on this planet that are doing whatever it is they're doing at any given time, certainly make it difficult for a person to make clean and honest, black and white choices. I mean, they put you in corners deliberately. They put you in situations that are impossible. I mean, it's like Sophie's choice almost every day of your life.
(Niall) Yes, you either have to shoot these people or shoot those people.
(Joe) Do the Israelis have any kompromat on Trump, or anything that could damage him?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. Next question.
(Chu) It's all mixed up on the chat. I don't know if you want to go from the beginning, or... These are just the very last notes, but they're questions up there...
(L) Oh, it just goes on... [scrolling] Wait. Let's see that bottleneck one.
(Chu) It's from seek10.
(seek10) Oh, you want me to, okay, so...
(L) No, just be quiet. Let me read.
(seek10) If time permits, I have a question. In chromosomal studies, there's a phenomenon known as the Y-chromosome bottleneck. During this period, it is estimated that for every 17 females, there was only one male who left descendants. This event is believed to have occurred around 5000 BCE, although the exact timing varies. What factors might have contributed to this genetic anomaly?
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"bottleneck in Y-chromosome lineages surfacing within the Younger Dryas boundary that in contrast to demographic reconstructions based on mtDNA, strongly indicated an accelerated differential between males to females, rising from a previous 1 male to every 3.5 females to 1 male for every 8 females by 8,000 BC and a staggering 17 females per single male by 5,000 BC, before as dramatically falling back in ratio to where we stand now with near parity of global birth rates." THE ONCE AND FUTURE SKY GOD? – From Göbekli Tepe to The Zodiac – and Beyond…' THE ONCE AND FUTURE SKY GOD? – From Göbekli Tepe to The Zodiac – and Beyond…
(L) Well, seek10, you ought to be able to figure out why there's a bottleneck in Y-chromosome! A bunch of people died! Especially in the Younger Dryas boundary, for crying all night! It accelerated.
(seek10) The anomaly seems to result from a disproportionately high rate of male mortality.
(L) Yeah, right. Okay... One male to every 3.5 females, to one male for every eight females by 8000 BC and a staggering 17 females per single male by 5000 BC. Near parity of global birth rates. Okay. Okay, it is obviously not simply cataclysmic activity.
(Andromeda) It's a long period of time.
(L) Yeah, that covers a long period of time, so... Well, what was the reason there?
A: Notice that there were matriarchies in that window of time.
Q: (L) Yeah, so...
(Joe) So they sent all the men to die...
A: Consider the divide between men and women now.
Q: (L) So are you suggesting that maybe during those times, women became angry at men, because they thought men had been responsible for bringing down the wrath of the gods on them?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And they formed matriarchies and began to suppress men in some way, because they blamed them for all the problems?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was that in fact the cause of the problems?
A: Partly, sure.
Q: (Joe) What happened to all the men?
A: Often massacred.
Q: (Joe) By who?
(Niall) By the women?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) No...
(Niall) What are we talking about, Amazons? Men are stronger...
(L) Well, maybe the legend of the Amazons came from something like this.
A: Yes
Q: (L) And what about the legends of the women turning against their husbands? And there are Greek stories about... Who was it, the sons of.. who was it? Egyptus and the Sons of the Greeks or something. And they had all these men and married all these women, and then they were unhappy about it. The women were unhappy about it, and they were given a signal or something. They all killed their husbands in the night. I think they were like the 50 sons of Egyptus and the 50 sons of... Somebody look it up. But, okay.
(seek10) Could the current suppression of women be seen as a form of karmic rebound?
(L) What now?
(seek10) Well, in some areas, women seem to play a somewhat diminished role. Could this be part of a karmic rebalancing act?
A: Partly.
Q: (Joe) Hang on, we must be talking about some very different types of women from 5,000 years ago, or in 5000 BC, because the idea that women in general could massacre men if men didn't want them to, doesn't fit.
(Niall) Well, how? Yeah.
(L) Are you saying that there were libtard women back then?
A: Close. [laughter]
Q: (L) Don't laugh!
(Joe) That still doesn't make any sense.
(Chu) Well, they could have used poisons and stuff...
(L) Think of all the stories in the myths about it! They came from somewhere!
(Joe) Who did? The myths?
(L) Yeah!
(Joe) But are we talking about women who are physically stronger than men in 5000 BC?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) So why did men allow women who were physically weaker than them to massacre them?
(L) Read the myths. It'll tell you how. I mean, consider the story of Judith and Holofernes in the Bible. She waited until he was asleep, and put a tent peg against the side of his head, and hit it with a hammer. I mean, women have all kinds of ways.
(Joe) Yeah, of course.
(L) They don't have to be stronger than men.
(Joe) Well, they said "massacre".
(L) Well "massacre" doesn't mean that they necessarily were in a battle. So, am I on the right track here?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was there any hyperdimensional manipulation about this?
A: That's the crux of the matter. Just as it is today.
Q: (Joe) So there were matriarchies at the time that propagandized that men were the cause of all ills. And maybe to some extent they were, but not totally. And then they just basically... That's crazy. Well, I suppose you're talking about a lot fewer people, even though it's eight to one or 17 to one, you're talking about small groups, right?
(L) Right.
(Niall) But it's so pervasive that it shows up in...
(Chu) the DNA.
(Niall) Yeah, the genetic records.
(Joe) Yeah, but it's still small numbers compared to today, if you transpose it to 8 billion people.
(L) Yeah, but think also about the whole Zoroastrian thing. They were having all the raids, the cattle raids and all that kind of stuff. And then the poor, peaceful cow wasn't able to provide milk and cheese for the farmers. So everything was all messed up. So just read, what's her name? What's her name, Approaching Infinity?
(Tuatha de Danaan) Settegast, isn't it?
(L) Yes, Mary Settegast.
(Joe) There's an Irish myth about the Brown Bull... Queen Maeve and her husband were definitely in a... she was the queen and he was...
(Niall) Number two.
(Joe) Yeah. But he had more possessions than her. Well, they were equal in possessions, except that he had a magnificent brown bull and she didn't have one. So she went on a war, with a war party...
(L) See? You got a myth right there. Okay, seek10, are you happy?
(seek10) Yeah, that makes sense. Agriculture is generally believed to have begun around 7000 to 6000 BCE, though some suggest it may have started even earlier—possibly before the Younger Dryas. If we go with the assumption that agriculture began around 7000 BCE, does that imply that women were primarily responsible for agriculture at that time?"
A: Mostly.
Q: (seek10) This whole idea that agriculture led to surplus, which then allowed people to go to war and so on, doesn't seem entirely accurate.
(L) Yeah. It's almost like they were doing agriculture so they would have food to eat, so they didn't have to go out hunting. Because they didn't have any men around to do the hunting, and whatever.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay.
(seek10) Thank you, Laura.
(L) Alright. I'm tired.
(Joe) What are the chances of European countries being overwhelmed with migrants from the East and the South in the near future?
A: Good.
Q: (Joe) And would that cause any danger to us here?
A: Could. Keep aware.
Q: (Niall) Is Israel going to attack Iran soon again?
A: Of course!
Q: (Gaby) Oh great...
(Niall) So they didn't get what they wanted in the 12 day war.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) And Trump's bombs didn't achieve what they claimed they achieved, I suppose. Is that true?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Whatever!
(Niall) But Trump knows that.
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) He's a big fat liar.
(L) Trump is like a drunk parent! [laughter] I mean, read the book Children of Alcoholic Parents and I mean, it's not a joke. Trump is like that drunk parent, and the child is trying to hit the target. He may not be like that inside his own family and in private, but his public persona is like that drunk parent that the kid can never know what's going to come next, what's going to happen. And I mean, they're just, like, getting whiplash and getting emotional trauma. The American public is just getting traumatized by all this crap!
(Chu) And apart from Israel having something on him, and him being like that, has he been tampered with in any way? Because he's really acting weird...
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is a lot of his current mania a function of his brush with death last year?
A: Yes
Q: (Joe) Is he a true believer, now? Does he think God saved him?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Oh, Geez!
(Joe) To save Israel, to save the world.
(L) Alright then! Never mind that the Israelis were probably behind the assassination attempt.
(Andromeda) Does he know that?
(L) Maybe he knows....
A: Yes
Q: (L) Yes, he knows that. So is he just playing his cards close to the chest?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, I hope he's as smart as some people say he is. Some people have said he is a smart guy, but sometimes he sure does act dumb, and he is certainly not a reader. He doesn't read enough, so he doesn't know enough about what's going on. Or at least it doesn't appear that way to me. Maybe he's just putting on so much... maybe he puts out so much smoke...
(Niall) Well, does he…? In the way that you just described it, is he putting that on deliberately to throw everyone off, in order to have cards close to the chest?
A: Mostly.
Q: (Niall) OK, so some of it really is just him...
(L) Some of it is really just him being bombastic.
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. I'm done. Has anybody got anything really essential for last?
(Lilyalic) Someone on the thread said he may be getting early onset dementia.
(Alejo) I've been thinking about this, he's getting up there in age.
(L) Yeah, he's getting up there in age.
(irjO) I really think it's his diet. He drinks a lot of diet soda, which affects cognitive function.
(L) Is the diet soda affecting his brain?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright. So, I reckon we're done. Is there anything we should be warned about in advance? Anything we should know about or that we should ask that we haven't asked? Please consider it asked because we really... things really are kind of ugly now.
A: All warnings have been given. They don't expire! Goodbye.
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