Session 29 May 2021

Nienna

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Since this is an English forum, please post in English. If you do not speak English, you can use an online translator such as DeepL. There are quite a few people on the forum whose mother tongue is not English and they use online tranlators so that they can read and post in English.

It is more externally considerate for the person who is posting to do this than to expect everyone else to do this in order to read your posts. Thank you. :-)

Comme il s'agit d'un forum en anglais, veuillez poster en anglais. Si vous ne parlez pas anglais, vous pouvez utiliser un traducteur en ligne tel que DeepL. Il y a pas mal de personnes sur le forum dont la langue maternelle n'est pas l'anglais et qui utilisent des traducteurs en ligne pour pouvoir lire et poster en anglais.

Il est plus respectueux de l'extérieur pour la personne qui poste de faire cela que d'attendre que tout le monde le fasse pour pouvoir lire vos messages. Merci.

Traduit avec www.DeepL.com/Translator (version gratuite) :-)
 

Cleopatre VII

Jedi Master
"A: Modifying the concept of gravity may help. But consider dark things in terms of your former question about fine structure and its relation to light and "electricity"."

This is a very interesting point. The current model of the four fundamental interactions does not fully convince me. However, I really like the concept of gravitoelectromagnetism. In this concept, the gravitational and electromagnetic interactions are unified. This is a step towards UFT.

Some time ago, teleparallelism suddenly revealed itself to me as well. In this theory, mass not only bends but also "twists" space-time. I think teleparallelism and gravitoelectromagnetism may be beautifully linked.

It seems to me that this approach can be innovative in some way. Perhaps it will not require an explanation based on the concepts of dark matter and energy.
 

John G

The Living Force
"A: Modifying the concept of gravity may help. But consider dark things in terms of your former question about fine structure and its relation to light and "electricity"."

This is a very interesting point. The current model of the four fundamental interactions does not fully convince me. However, I really like the concept of gravitoelectromagnetism. In this concept, the gravitational and electromagnetic interactions are unified. This is a step towards UFT.

Some time ago, teleparallelism suddenly revealed itself to me as well. In this theory, mass not only bends but also "twists" space-time. I think teleparallelism and gravitoelectromagnetism may be beautifully linked.

It seems to me that this approach can be innovative in some way. Perhaps it will not require an explanation based on the concepts of dark matter and energy.
Teleparallelism aka absolute parallelism seems nice to me in a Cartan connection kind of way. Relates to that extra one-form I mentioned in the information topic. The twist (torsion) might be spin rather than mass related maybe. A conformal graviton and longitudinal/timelike photon might be the same thing but for conventional gravity and the transverse photon, there are force strength things to worry about aka the fine structure and the gravitational constant. For this I think Kaluza Klein geometry and sort of effective mass for gravity force carriers might come into play (kind of weak boson-like but it's more literal for the weak force). The conformal graviton probably can handle dark energy and the galaxy rotation curves without dark matter. Missing matter might still be something dark.
 

Alma.Innovadora

Jedi Master
Greetings and thanks to all the team for what they do.

Sorry for the error in the previous empty publication, I had the wrong button. I was going to hit preview and at that moment the window scrolled and I pressed the publish button. If you can delete it, great.

(Joe) Feeling a 'wall' of terror or fear...

I think I know that feeling. It's unpleasant, before I got here, I remember while researching UFO or ghost issues for clues as to which came first "the chicken or the egg", "god or the greys/lizards" only to realize and come to the conclusion that everything they said about Lucifier described humanity itself "geez! I am, we are Lucifer?", I felt a strange fear and as if they were moving around me. Sometimes it smelled like flowers, sometimes like sulfur, if I walked down the hallway of my house, I felt like I was being followed. It's not the typical instinctive fear, it was something that was activated to avoid continuing what I was doing.

(L) Well, yeah, eventually! The thing is, I think that there's a lot of free will that's going to be involved in that. People who get a vaccine, will they or will they not take any protective measures? Do they or do they not have certain genetic factors that make them stronger or weaker than other people? Do they or do they not have pre-existing conditions? Will they or will they not take care of themselves if they do get sick? I mean, there are so many factors for each individual person that I don't think you could possibly get any kind of percentage on even at this point.

I have only seen them make vaccination plans, but never plans to test to see if the person is fit to be vaccinated or not, for obvious reasons. If they actually did that, the vaccinated people would be much less hindering the schedule. If it has been determined that the virus really affects the cardiovascular level, isn't there a range of known diseases and levels of involvement that they can use as a basis for testing focused on that, and hasn't there been enough evidence of all the collateral damage to guide them in developing the necessary measures to determine whether the person is fit to be vaccinated or not? I think that should be the inherent responsibility of these health "professionals", except for those who are heartless and part of the agenda. Hence the no autopsies.
The typical excuse "that's wasting too many resources, there will always be people who are going to die, it's normal" and the psychopathic view "that's the plan, let it spread makes them the resource we need". People still believe in what is officially said about covid and they are moved by fear, but I don't know, something tells me that if the fear they have of being contaminated moves them to get vaccinated like cattle when they are branded, the same fear of knowing that they are at risk of being seriously affected by being vaccinated, would create the opposite effect hindering the agenda and I think we have seen it, even if it is a little, for some reason they are instituting more tyrannical measures of offering money for the vaccinated to denounce and fine the unvaccinated and a "common" person with that degree of responsibility over others, it is like creating guerrillas that go against the neighbor, it gives room to harm another person for many other reasons far from "not being vaccinated".

Q: (L) That's good enough. Yeah, we already got the news in our newspaper today that starting in July, all the prices are going to be up, taxes on imported products, all the businesses and manufacturing jobs that are small businesses are all going to be just completely done in. And they HAVE to know that it's going to happen! I know Lobaczewski says that when psychopaths are in charge, they make stupid decisions and put stupid people in power who make further stupid decisions. They don't think things through. They have NO concept of consequences. That alone, one might think, could explain the stupidity of the actions that are going on today. However, surely, SURELY they must have a rational two or three advisors who will tell them that if you do that, this is going to happen and you're basically killing the goose that laid the golden egg, shooting off your foot, and cutting off your nose to spite your face - sorry for mixing metaphors, but that's what they're doing!

(Joe) That's been happening, and those advisors have been brushed off.

(L) Lobaczewski described what a country under a pathocratic... I mean, everything goes downhill. There are no supplies, long lines for toilet paper, all kinds of things like that. That could be just what we're seeing.
Q: (L) I tell ya, people: it's all really depressing out there. The thing is, we had all of this predicted to us 25 years ago. We knew it was coming; we just didn't know how.

(Andromeda) It's surreal to see it actually happening.

(L) It's Bizarro World.

The imaginary line of struggle between left and right is also being erased, because those who claimed to have the best interest of the people, today are contradictorily showing that they really had no interest in improving anything and little by little they have been adopting the measures of those who for so many years have been pointing at them as the absolute evil. It reminds me a lot of an article of the old sott where it was said that the left was nothing more than the cushion of the right, the option for when the right hanged the people so much, they would look for a way out, but it turns out that they were the same but of a different color. "The revolution and the fight for your mind" I think it was called.

For those who think they are safe for not being in the USA or a country with a higher psychopathic degree it is a good article to take up, there are many articles that today we should have well ordered and at hand. A super glossary!.

We are not safe, it is only a matter of time before the tide rises and sinks us under the same sea. In my country, today it is more evident how they have been joining the enemy that they defamed so much for years "if you can't beat the enemy, join them". In El Salvador, nothing more and nothing less, there is a leftist financed by the US, a greater show of contradiction that should call attention to so many signs that there are, a leftist with a US flag shirt asking for help. There is always the one who says "ah that was not a real leftist" What is a real left or right, really? If their speeches only cause more division and hatred among the people, it doesn't matter what color they are, their actions speak for their own self-interests.

(L) So anyway people, it's beyond crazy. Y’all know it, I know it. There are some other people who just don't happen to be members of our group that know it too, but I don't see that there are that many. The only thing I know to do is to keep yourself in an emotionally stable state in the best way you can while at the same time continuing to interact with all your peeps - the forum, questions, discussions, etc. Years ago I once asked the Cs... because one of the things that was going on behind the scenes of the early sessions were endless - ENDLESS - minute discussions of every aspect of reality. Everything I thought, everything other people thought - among our small group that was there meeting at my house in Florida. At one point, I asked the Cs if all this endless discussion is supposed to be helpful. And they said yes, you bet it is! That's the essence of networking. The thing about it is, when you get into a discussion in a network situation, you've got to be open to what other people say. You can't go into it with an assumption that you already know something. You can't think that the way you think is necessarily what is correct or accurate or objective - mainly objective. I knew years ago that I couldn't possibly be objective because I kept screwing up so bad. It took me awhile to figure that out, but I did finally get it. If you have all kinds of issues and problems in your life, it's because you're not talking enough, sharing enough, and you're not sharing SINCERELY. If you're going to talk to somebody about your problems and you lie to them, how are they going to help you? Or if you leave something out? So, all I can say is that we just got to get through this because I don't see any other way to deal with it and it's extremely unpleasant. It probably wouldn't hurt for everyone to re-read Castaneda's The Fire From Within where he talks about stalking and petty tyrants. That was one that really stuck in my mind where he sets the guy up and he ends up in the stall with the horse and the horse goes after him. We have got to figure out ways to stalk this thing... We have a WONDERFUL opportunity to learn the art of stalking with that world and environment out there. Maybe we should start a thread about it and discuss it some more. How are we dealing with it? How are we surviving it? So, anyway people... Is anybody totally awesomely inspired and awe-struck and everything by this whole process? Do you finally get it that it's just really... work. It's just work. Is everybody happy you finally got to be in on a session?
If you have all kinds of issues and problems in your life, it's because you're not talking enough, sharing enough, and you're not sharing SINCERELY.

Could we do small groups behind the scenes like you did in your home in Florida so that members can discuss in a more direct way what they want to express? is it the right time for some members to do so? I even go a little further, are there interested people from the same country to join together to help us in these times to form a group even to create a job stability, to join our knowledge, to join our skills to improve our livelihood to what is to come?

For a long time I would like to participate in this direct way, sometimes one shares a lot, but sometimes what I read in the forum is not as concrete as what I can find in the books and I feel the information fragmented perhaps because of my way of learning between what seems to each one what he reads and what is better understood and that is where I do not see a collinearity. That led me to stay away from the forum for a long time and even wanted to throw in the towel with all this. Sometimes I asked myself, "Could it be that I am saying a lot of stupid nonsense or are they detecting some program in me that they feel is not worth responding to and I am not aware of?" and if that were the case, I would even like to know so I would have something to work on, I would like to be brutally confronted with a mirror, I feel I need it. I feel I need a group that communicates, that we can thoroughly go into detail about our reality.

(L) Last time they said something was coming up, we got COVID! [laughter] So I don't know what's coming up, but... Does anybody here feel unable to keep your wits about you in the coming months or year or two? I mean, we've got to do it. What other choice do we have? Run out in the street and start screaming and run in front of a truck or something? There aren't many options. Let's face it: the zombie apocalypse is coming.

(Andromeda) Take it gracefully!

How can we take something like this in gracefully? We will have to have a strong heart to leave behind those we do not wish to abandon. If I had nothing to lose, I wouldn't care what happens to me. I was able to detect health problems that would lead to the death of 3 people close to the family. One having that knowledge, being able to do something about it and having to deal with the very ignorance of their family members holding out false hope when they already knew they were not going to survive, being used as experiment pigs, were people who had no reason to die now. The three people had previous heart problems, they get the vaccine, they get worse, they enjoy the joy of a physic (temporary joy), and then they die just like that. Good for those who don't have to go through that.

Having to tell my parents, "what more evidence do you want? read the ****** information! people are dying from getting that stuff, neither the Russian nor the Chinese are reliable now, they started to have flaws too. If they don't want to read it, ok, but I thank them to leave all the necessary papers of inheritance, debts or whatever in order. I don't want siblings that I supposedly never had to fight inheritance or legal problems with debts to show up. If something happens to them, just don't complicate my life once they are no longer here or appear to me as a ghost asking for forgiveness. At least funeral insurance don't even worry about paying, two coins for the boatman and to the ember".
 
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