Show #30: Assassinated Heroes

[Niall]

Sunday 25th August 2013: Assassinated Heroes

The pages of human history are not only long, they are largely redacted and distorted in a way that not only bolsters the official history of the righteous rule of the 'elite', but simultaneously covers up their long-term corruption and criminality. Those same pages are also replete with, and at times defined by, iconic and notable figures who rose to positions of either power or notoriety (or both) by either chance or design. Some historical figures are lauded as heroes or even saviors, while others are remembered only as a warning of what can happen when human potential goes horribly awry. Yet, more often than not, when the true details of their lives are subjected to close and objective scrutiny, even the lauded heroes of history fall from grace to one degree or another.

There are however, a vanishingly small group of historical figures who, when scrutinized in the same way, provoke precisely the opposite effect; they are revealed to be true, and largely unsung, heroes. This details of their lives, and their deaths, tell a story of their ultimately unrealized potential to not only change human society for the better but to serve as role models for us all. Unfortunately, the lives of most of these individuals were dramatically cut short by an assassins bullet or some equally fatal plot hatched by the established authorities of the day who realised the very real threat posed to their rule by the unchecked emergence of a true champion of the people.

Michael Collins, JFK, RFK, MLK, Ghandi, Lumumba, Lennon, Moro, Sadat, Palme, Diana, Rafik Hariri, Benazir Bhutto, Anna Lindh, Yasser Arafat…this is a short-list of great or potentially great leaders who were assassinated in the 20th century.

This week on Sott Talk radio we'll be looking at the lives and deaths of these individuals and others who were 'taken out' simply because they had the power and intent to make our world a better place for all.

 

[Ennio]

I appreciate the angle that this show is going to take. Far too often it seems that folks get consumed and side-tracked by the 'conspiratorial' side of an assassination (if they can even go there) and do not deal with the significance of the loss of that person, and the implications it has about the world we live in.

Looking forward to tuning in.

 

[H-KQGE]

I appreciate the angle that this show is going to take. Far too often it seems that folks get consumed and side-tracked by the 'conspiratorial' side of an assassination (if they can even go there) and do not deal with the significance of the loss of that person, and the implications it has about the world we live in.

Looking forward to tuning in.

Some of the world's departed heroes that have been mentioned i knew of & some i did not. I feel that it is important for those who were in their early youth when these lives were cut short, to analyse the period & the effects of the people that stood up against tyranny had. For me, i am saddened that as a teenager i knew little of "the people's princess" & was highly sceptical about charities & royalty for instance. But since then & especially now i see the great work she did, & the affection & respect from millions around the globe is breathtakingly beautiful.
"Where have all the heroes gone?." Hopefully awareness can be raised on many issues in the world so that the potential heroes out there can emerge in time. I too am looking forward to this show.

 

[l apprenti de forgeron]

I appreciate the angle that this show is going to take. Far too often it seems that folks get consumed and side-tracked by the 'conspiratorial' side of an assassination (if they can even go there) and do not deal with the significance of the loss of that person, and the implications it has about the world we live in.

Looking forward to tuning in.

That significance can be really deep, individually and collectively-something like a great existential trauma-, because they were all really heroes. Surely with varying degrees of knowledge and being, but with soul and with a great love that was manifested in defending normal people trampled. And unfortunately they were erased from here. Thanks people, I wait to hear this new show.

 

[loreta]

Wow, this is a beautiful subject. Personally now I am a little obsessed by JFK, I think it is so important! These heroes are very important, the notion of heroism in that society of ours where heroism is not a very used notion. Heroes are fighters against devil and and to fight the devil you have to be very strong. They were strong and beautiful and that's why they were killed. It is vital to know about them. And also why the majority of people have forgotten them. Or don't care about them.

Heroes are what we can be, as a individual human being and also as a future. They are the change, they are hope. Even if they are not here anymore they are still hope and future and change.

One of my heroes was Thomas Sankara, who was synonym of change and future for many, many Africans. He was assassinated by the PTB justly for that.

 

[Gwenllian]

I appreciate the angle that this show is going to take. Far too often it seems that folks get consumed and side-tracked by the 'conspiratorial' side of an assassination (if they can even go there) and do not deal with the significance of the loss of that person, and the implications it has about the world we live in.

Looking forward to tuning in.

Some of the world's departed heroes that have been mentioned i knew of & some i did not. I feel that it is important for those who were in their early youth when these lives were cut short, to analyse the period & the effects of the people that stood up against tyranny had. For me, i am saddened that as a teenager i knew little of "the people's princess" & was highly sceptical about charities & royalty for instance. But since then & especially now i see the great work she did, & the affection & respect from millions around the globe is breathtakingly beautiful.
"Where have all the heroes gone?." Hopefully awareness can be raised on many issues in the world so that the potential heroes out there can emerge in time. I too am looking forward to this show.

I second this.
In the movie 'JFK' Jim Garrison says that we are all children of the slain father or something along those lines. "Do not forget your dying king!".

I am also a little obsessed (if that is the right word) with JFK, although I think RK was even greater. I have watched 'Evidence of Revision' a couple of times and the way Robert Kennedy interacted with people was heart-warming. He was a compassionate man, even more so than his brother, according to one of the witnesses in the video. He was empathic and had a great sense of humour which he also used in dealing with his opponents.
The way I see it: we have lost these people and are still traumatized maybe? Kniall mentioned the limbic system during one of the SOTT radio shows and how these mass protest movements have an impact on that very system. The same goes for people like Diana, RK and others, OSIT. They impacted our limbic system without us being aware of it, at least I wasn't.

Just an anecdote. In the eighties I was on holiday in England in the area of Tetbury (?) where Di and Charles had their summer home. We attended a concert in a small church, performed by a group of Japanese kids who played the violin. Diana was guest of honour and after the concert she went up the stage and greeted and talked to the small violinists. When she left they looked at her as if she was a Goddess. :)
We staid in a B&B and the owner told us that Diana was indeed a really nice person. She told us how Diana had attended some function where one of the children had felt under the weather and how she had staid behind a bit, so that she could comfort him (if I remember it all correctly).

 

[Voyageur]

Thank you for jointly engaging in another though provoking broadcast SoTT Talk.

Good night. :)

 

[Thomas Alan]

Thanks, great show. It's been heart breaking over the years to see some of the best among us, those that cared about others and worked to make life better for all, die violently one by one.

Bobby Kennedy came to our university in the spring of 1968, about a month before he was killed. The auditorium was packed, they put speakers outside for those who couldn't get in. It was hot in the auditorium and he was more than a hour late. I was near the center aisle. He came in the front entrance and walked toward the stage, a few people with him but no body guards that I could see.

His speech wasn't very interesting. He was in a farm state so he gave a farm speech probably mostly for the medias benefit. But I was thrilled to see him. Intelligent, very polished no doubt from his aristocratic upbringing.

Eugene McCarthy had been the only peace candidate until RFK entered the presidential race. But I saw RFK a the best hope of ending that horrible senseless war. He probably would have won the presidency. But the elite could not let that happen.

The list of dead heroes is long. Our hearts broken each time another falls. But their lives inspire us and teach us, if we are willing.

Mac

 

[SMM]

Thanks for this week's show guys - like the direction it took considering anniversary of Diana's death.

Growing up my mother was fascinated by the Princess of Wales, how she dressed & behaved. Until this day, with the unearthing of evidence that she was murdered, she mentions how they can't let her rest in piece.
If heroism can be tied to archetypes, then it makes sense that on a global scale we are heavily influenced by those fighting for a cause. In fact I think we yearn for role models & the idealism leads us to believe in less than favourable, or pathological, individuals in our hoping or lack of awareness.

The impact on the masses is staggering osit, for different reasons.
The outcome for the good guys is heart breaking to hear about.

 

[loreta]

It is important to talk about them, thanks for this program.

I am reading about JFK. I am stunned. So surprised, so incredible surprised. How come I didn't know how intelligent he was, sensitive and good person? At school they said things that were not true. They lied to me. And all my life I was an ignorant, ignoring the work of this hero. Again I am grateful for the bon sense of this forum.

With JFK (and others) we just know about their death. And it is like a mantra, just talking about how he was killed, and who killed him, etc. But the real Kennedy, him as a person, as a good leader, as a pacifist, a hero, all of his life ask from us a work to do, an investigation, a personal and individual search. It is part or our wake up. And in this search for truth, thanks to others, like here. The true Kennedy as the truth of others heroes will come to us with our awareness.

To be aware of my ignorance in front of Kennedy is also a sort of "wake up" loreta!

Thanks, again.

 

[Olesya]

For me, i am saddened that as a teenager i knew little of "the people's princess" & was highly sceptical about charities & royalty for instance. But since then & especially now i see the great work she did, & the affection & respect from millions around the globe is breathtakingly beautiful.

That's a good way to describe my feelings as well. And I was really skeptical about the people in the position of power in general. Black and white thinking for sure. And it was due, besides my ignorance, to the fact that in my surroundings I only saw how people in the position of power abuse it for their own benefit. But this 'black and white' approach of seeing things did change, when I started reading SOTT regularly and Laura's work, and a lot of other recommended materials. Thank you all for that very much.

And you right, every time PTB kill these heroes they kill a part of us, the best part of us. Many thank to Pierre for bringing up the Coluche's story http://www.france24.com/en/20110619-blunt-beloved-french-comedian-coluche-still-alive-memories_ and here _http://www.fr2day.com/showbiz/coluche_the_comedian_of_the_people I heard about him a long time ago, now it gave me a chance to know more about him.

Some of his sayings (translations of the originals from different websites):

"Always remember that while the Gestapo had means to make you talk, our politicians have means to keep us quiet"

"Left-wing politics like poor people so much they create them"

"I'll quit politics when politicians quit comedy - they steal my job, I steal theirs"

"A rubber would be a great political logo: It contains inflation, allows for expansion, limits overproduction and provides a sense of security"

"If I have the chance, I’d like to die in my lifetime”

“Some politicians seem honest, but after they shake your hand, you’d better count your fingers”

"I am not superstitious, it brings bad luck!"

"Dictatorship is “shut your mouth”. Democracy is “keep on talking"

"It makes people laugh when you poke fun at politic. However, it is mainly politic who poke fun at us"

"Artichokes are the real dish of the poor. It is the only dish that when you finish eating, you have more on your plate than when you started"

And the last one, “It’s not my fault if some people are hungry, but it becomes my fault if nothing changes.” That pretty much sums up for me what drives the real heroes. The sense of personal responsibility for the well being of all people that help to overcome the fears about personal safety. The STO way.

And by the way, every time I listen the intro to the shows it gives me shivers. What Laura's saying and how she says it it's just amazing!

Many thanks again. And Jason, I wish you well and speedy recovery from your illness.

 

[Pierre]

For me, i am saddened that as a teenager i knew little of "the people's princess" & was highly sceptical about charities & royalty for instance. But since then & especially now i see the great work she did, & the affection & respect from millions around the globe is breathtakingly beautiful.

That's a good way to describe my feelings as well. And I was really skeptical about the people in the position of power in general. Black and white thinking for sure. And it was due, besides my ignorance, to the fact that in my surroundings I only saw how people in the position of power abuse it for their own benefit. But this 'black and white' approach of seeing things did change, when I started reading SOTT regularly and Laura's work, and a lot of other recommended materials. Thank you all for that very much.

And you right, every time PTB kill these heroes they kill a part of us, the best part of us. Many thank to Pierre for bringing up the Coluche's story http://www.france24.com/en/20110619-blunt-beloved-french-comedian-coluche-still-alive-memories_ and here _http://www.fr2day.com/showbiz/coluche_the_comedian_of_the_people I heard about him a long time ago, now it gave me a chance to know more about him.

Some of his sayings (translations of the originals from different websites):

"Always remember that while the Gestapo had means to make you talk, our politicians have means to keep us quiet"

"Left-wing politics like poor people so much they create them"

"I'll quit politics when politicians quit comedy - they steal my job, I steal theirs"

"A rubber would be a great political logo: It contains inflation, allows for expansion, limits overproduction and provides a sense of security"

"If I have the chance, I’d like to die in my lifetime”

“Some politicians seem honest, but after they shake your hand, you’d better count your fingers”

"I am not superstitious, it brings bad luck!"

"Dictatorship is “shut your mouth”. Democracy is “keep on talking"

"It makes people laugh when you poke fun at politic. However, it is mainly politic who poke fun at us"

"Artichokes are the real dish of the poor. It is the only dish that when you finish eating, you have more on your plate than when you started"

And the last one, “It’s not my fault if some people are hungry, but it becomes my fault if nothing changes.” That pretty much sums up for me what drives the real heroes. The sense of personal responsibility for the well being of all people that help to overcome the fears about personal safety. The STO way.

There is this one too: "Capitalism is man exploiting man, and Socialism is just the opposite"

By the way here is a video interview of the journalist who wrote the book about Coluche assassination (2 parts but unfortunately only available in French).

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[loreta]

Thanks for this videos. I always loved Coluche. When he died I was shocked. I was so shocked that I remember clearly when I hear the news, the exact moment when they said: Coluche died in a bike accident. Same with JFK, I remember when and how I learn the news, even if I was very young. Some things mark you even if you are not aware, at that moment, of it. You will forget the visage of you first boy friend, but not the day when they killed JFK. That's for sure.

 

[Pierre]

Thanks for this videos. I always loved Coluche. When he died I was shocked. I was so shocked that I remember clearly when I hear the news, the exact moment when they said: Coluche died in a bike accident. Same with JFK, I remember when and how I learn the news, even if I was very young. Some things mark you even if you are not aware, at that moment, of it. You will forget the visage of you first boy friend, but not the day when they killed JFK. That's for sure.

Exact. I think that people are so moved by the death of their heroes because that also means the death of one part of themselves. The part that hopes, that loves, that wants to progress, that thinks a better world is possible. When the psychopaths kill our heroes they also kill the best part of us.

 

[H-KQGE]

i finished listening to yesterday's show & it was informative & thought-provoking as ever.

It is important to talk about them, thanks for this program.

I am reading about JFK. I am stunned. So surprised, so incredible surprised. How come I didn't know how intelligent he was, sensitive and good person? At school they said things that were not true. They lied to me. And all my life I was an ignorant, ignoring the work of this hero. Again I am grateful for the bon sense of this forum.

With JFK (and others) we just know about their death. And it is like a mantra, just talking about how he was killed, and who killed him, etc. But the real Kennedy, him as a person, as a good leader, as a pacifist, a hero, all of his life ask from us a work to do, an investigation, a personal and individual search. It is part or our wake up. And in this search for truth, thanks to others, like here. The true Kennedy as the truth of others heroes will come to us with our awareness.

To be aware of my ignorance in front of Kennedy is also a sort of "wake up" loreta!

Thanks, again.

Yes. This is what i have to now deal with. The lies from what we bravely call "education" & the resulting ignorance. I've been looking back at what i was taught at school & it was gibberish. And i mean unintelligible rapid talk that i could barely question. Caesar (apparently the most famous tyrannical Roman leader -basically a bloodthirsty nut) was someone you wouldn't want to meet, like most Romans. (those biblical epics didn't help either)
JFK, a fairly decent chap who womanized & liked a drink, was shot by a lone nut & then madness followed. (all being the focus in my school anyway)
I didn't even know he had a brother until a few years ago with that biopic on him. I didn't even know what communism was, my "understanding" until a few years back was "them" vs "us" such was the drivel hurled at me. What came through was "America versus the commies & Great Britain is an American ally." Which didn't say much.

As said elsewhere on this thread, more attention is/was placed on conspiracy theories, theorists, & not the individual or the implications for the world from the loss of the person.

The more i look at the photos the more i remember how princess Diana exuded so much poise & grace, a quiet confidence, such warmth & sincerity that any human being could sense it & would be magnetically drawn to it. I'm sure many were upset when she had to leave, & she probably was too.

If the lady in the headscarf's name is Benazir Bhutto then i remember a woman a few years back who i thought was a real powerhouse, intelligent & well spoken with an obviously very clear thought process that allowed me to understand what was happening with Pakistan & the whole democracy mess.
I feel that these 2 women wouldn't have put up with the rape, the inequality & corruption, the famine or the heavy weapons or oil "scandals" (because so many say "that's scandalous!" then go back to their sports/soap opera/"reality television" fanaticism) & i'm emphasizing that the effect on the ponerized youth, male & female would've/could've been enormous.

They killed the positive potential of past male heroes, then the modern females. Just think what might have been if any of those discussed on the show had lived, never mind the spiritual (mental emotional physical) snowball effect if several of them had.
Because of sott, the forum, heck the whole cass site, i can objectively really learn about so many topics, especially the subject of history which i love.
Thank you sott crew, your hard work is most appreciated.