Stock up on food?

[3DStudent]

Hello all, I have purchased 8 canisters of rice protein a few weeks ago. I figure at one shake a day they will last me will next Spring. I kind of overdid it, but they were on sale. I think I'm pretty fine with the rice, but when I cut it out a few months ago for buckwheat groats, I did feel kind of "lighter". I'm doing the Ultra Simple Diet and I think I will test for rice soon. I have until next weekend to return them.

I've been thinking with the July sessions in mind. The possibility of food shortages kind of makes me want to keep them, even if I end up finding out I don't tolerate rice. I think that would be wise in a case of needing food.

Would it be wise to buy food in bulk now that we have some warning, or is that too much third density thinking? I haven't finished through both July session threads, so maybe this is discussed there. I've already been preparing a little since reading them, getting rid of some physical things I don't need. It really seems like a last warning that things will be getting difficult.

Well, that's all I really wanted to say. I will probably try hemp protein as well. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[mocachapeau]

Hello all, I have purchased 8 canisters of rice protein a few weeks ago. I figure at one shake a day they will last me will next Spring. I kind of overdid it, but they were on sale. I think I'm pretty fine with the rice, but when I cut it out a few months ago for buckwheat groats, I did feel kind of "lighter". I'm doing the Ultra Simple Diet and I think I will test for rice soon. I have until next weekend to return them.

I've been thinking with the July sessions in mind. The possibility of food shortages kind of makes me want to keep them, even if I end up finding out I don't tolerate rice. I think that would be wise in a case of needing food.

Would it be wise to buy food in bulk now that we have some warning, or is that too much third density thinking? I haven't finished through both July session threads, so maybe this is discussed there. I've already been preparing a little since reading them, getting rid of some physical things I don't need. It really seems like a last warning that things will be getting difficult.

Well, that's all I really wanted to say. I will probably try hemp protein as well. Any advice is appreciated.

I've been wondering about the idea of stocking up on food, too. But I think the wiser solution, if it is an option for you, is to start thinking of a way to grow your own food. I've been thinking of starting to stock up on rice, but I've been thinking more about planting a garden.

I switched from rice protein to hemp protein for my shakes a few months ago. The girl at the store said she felt it was more "complete" and that it was grown locally, so it cost less and supported the local economy.

 

[Sinapi]

Hi 3D Student,

I’m one for never throwing anything away if it’s still good, regardless of any catastrophes. Maybe if you don’t tolerate it well, someone else could use it?

Anyways, I’m still thinking about that question, too. My family wants to store tins of canned fish and things like that; all I can say is blech! BPA!

On one hand, it seems like 3D thinking, but I think it all comes down to the intent. If you want to do this in order to keep learning and networking, then I’d say it’s a good idea. If you are doing this for the sake of surviving the apocalypse and leaving others behind, then I’d say it’s 3D STS thinking.

Also, if someone were starving and they came to ask for food, would you give it to them? Or would you be afraid of running out? What if more people come to your door, knowing that you have food? This is something that’s been bothering me. You could end up helping some honest people, but, at the same time, you could end up cutting your own throat if you all end up starving… but I guess that’s more 3D thinking.

If you do choose to store food, I’d recommend lentils and split peas, as well as other dried legumes if you can tolerate them, as they have the best shelf life other than white rice. I cannot, unless I ferment them for a few days.

You might consider culturing some spirulina, too, since, with care, you might be able to keep the colonies alive for years. I haven’t tried it yet, though.

Also, you may want to consider saving up on activated carbon for a water filter, in case infrastructure falls apart and you get loads of pesticide or other organic compounds in the water supply.

I agree with mocachapeau about growing your own food. Grow endive lettuce! It's very bitter, but extremely hardy and healthy. When my grandfather was growing up in Vojvodina, he remembered how endive would burst through the thick snow. Snow is an insulator, in case you didn't know.

For what it’s worth. Thanks for the topic. :)

 

[RyanX]

I've been wondering about the idea of stocking up on food, too. But I think the wiser solution, if it is an option for you, is to start thinking of a way to grow your own food. I've been thinking of starting to stock up on rice, but I've been thinking more about planting a garden.

I generally try to buy some of my dried goods in 6 month increments. This last time around I had to wait because I was so broke I could barely afford anything, but I placed another order recently that should be coming soon. Mostly buckwheat, some lentils and rice. Pretty basic stuff.

I'd like to buy more food bulk and can or freeze it, but I don't have the time right now. I need helpers to help with that stuff and the kids are usually good for the first twenty minutes and after that they're out the door or off doing something else

Anyways, I think stocking up is generally smart if you know what you're doing and have the capacity to store the food and know that you're actually going to eat the food. I know I can't grow much of anything on my property with the south side lined with tall trees. I'll probably be the first person on the block with a hog pen and chicken coop if the city ever allows such an operation

 

[3DStudent]

Hi everyone, thanks for the replies.

Maybe if you don’t tolerate it well, someone else could use it?

Thanks, I didn't think of that option. I don't know too many people that eat healthy though.

On one hand, it seems like 3D thinking, but I think it all comes down to the intent. If you want to do this in order to keep learning and networking, then I’d say it’s a good idea. If you are doing this for the sake of surviving the apocalypse and leaving others behind, then I’d say it’s 3D STS thinking.

This is an interesting part of the equation, why do I want to survive? Well, I don't think I want to leave others behind, or "beat" them at surviving. And I realize this is going to take the efforts of communities and not individuals. I'd say most of all I just want to read some more of the recommended books :P. And maybe do some creative things, enjoy life.

Also, if someone were starving and they came to ask for food, would you give it to them? Or would you be afraid of running out? What if more people come to your door, knowing that you have food? This is something that’s been bothering me. You could end up helping some honest people, but, at the same time, you could end up cutting your own throat if you all end up starving… but I guess that’s more 3D thinking.

I've thought about that too. Like if you stocked up and them give to someone, then you become known as the "one with the goods". But I think "working for your destiny" comes into play there, in that you have to live too.

Also, you may want to consider saving up on activated carbon for a water filter, in case infrastructure falls apart and you get loads of pesticide or other organic compounds in the water supply.

I use a water distiller. I just ordered some filters for it that will last about a year.

For what it’s worth. Thanks for the topic. :)

No problem, I guess others have thought seriously about this too. I just didn't know if it was discussed in the recent sessions or not, but I'll find out soon.

 

[Peam]

I've thought about having a small stock of groats, brown rice and other store-able bits, enough for about 2 months. Stocking things which could at least cover a breakfast and one other meal per day. Then replenish the stock on a weekly basis.
Then for a 3rd meal, there's plenty of farms around my area, so I'll hope for the best and that there's some meat and veg to go round.

I might store a few tins of mackerel, but how long can we rely on fish now with the BP oil spill, I dunno.

But there's one added advantage about cutting out dairy and wheat, and that is whenever there's been a potential food delivery problem to supermarkets in my area due to severe whether or worker disputes, there's always a mad stampede for the bread and milk shelves which quickly run out. So it's a nice feeling to not have to worry about that stuff. :)