Suspicious testimony from a ... man in black?

msante

The Living Force
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Sorry, although I know that the testimony of this alleged member of "men in black" is highly suspicious, I couldn't help but notice some small details that I found at least interesting. So I'll leave the video (and a transcription) here and give you a short summary of the highlights:


Summary:
  • This alleged agent claims to have been a "man in black" who operated between 1970 and 1997.
  • Most of the operations he was involved was about recovered extraterrestrial technology.
  • He was recruited by a William T. Latham (I couldn't find anything about him) in 1970. He was seen as a good candidate for the "job" because he had no family or social ties. They erased his past and gave him a new identity.
  • He was subjected to treatment with drugs, hypnosis, etc. in order to "program" him to kill and forget.
Up to this point the video looked like one of many testimonials from alleged remorseful super-agents. But then it started to get a little more bizarre:
  • According to him, later he discovered that not all of the men in black were human, at least a third were alien hybrids. They were distinguished by their eyes which looked "empty". Well, I remember the Cs talking about MIBs as projections of lizards but I don't remember the Cs referring to MIBs being alien-human hybrids, although they have several times talked about hybrids created with 3rd/4th beings if I'm not mistaken. Exs:
Session Oct 14 2002
Q: (J) They once said something about bi-density beings. They were like hybrids between 4th density beings and a 3rd density being. Or could such an individual be a genetically enhanced human?
A: Humans were once "bi-density." And some may be again in the natural way. Those of 4D STS "manufacture" are similar. Just think of them as a type of OP with souped up engines.
Q: (L) Well, on the subject of abduction: we watched a film on television, Monday the 28th, that was a purported video of an alien autopsy, or, more correctly, an autopsy on an alien body. Was this, in fact, an alien?
A: How do you define "alien?"
Q: (L) Was it a being other than a naturally born human on this planet as we know human beings?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) It was other than a naturally born human?
A: Correct.
Q: (L) Okay. What kind of a being was this?
A: Hybrid.
Q: (L) What was it a hybrid of - combining what elements?
A: Cybergenetic creatures you refer to as "Grays," and earth human such as yourself, third density. So, in essence, it was a hybridization of a 3rd density and 4th density being.
  • In 1971 he was for the first time at the scene of a downed spacecraft that had 3 aliens inside and a human woman theoretically abducted. On that occasion he had to kill a witness who saw the event.
  • He says that from then on, he and other agents killed several male and female witnesses. Usually the next day they had no memory of what they had done.
  • He says that he himself killed Paul William Cooper (in a quick search I found nothing about him), Milton Vigay (nothing), Claude Monroe (nothing), Anthony Vargas (nothing), and documentary filmmaker Samantha Willis (nothing). He strangled Samantha.
  • According to him, in 1954 Dwight Eisenhower signed a kind of treaty with the gray aliens that established that in exchange for technology the government would cover up the abductions. Both the treaty and the abductions continue today.
  • Every year at least 8 million children disappear. One third of them are abducted by human agents.They are taken to one of the 1477 subway military facilities to be subjected to experiments and mutilations performed by gray aliens without anesthesia and while the children are aware. Here I remembered this from one of the first sessions:
A: Bits childrens organs removed while wide awake - kidneys crushed - then next feet - next jaw examined on table - tongues cut off - bones stress tested - pressure placed on heart muscle until burst.
  • He names a Colonel Charles T. Lenninger (nothing about him) who was one of his contacts as well as a "hybrid".
  • He later states that at the 1994 Cairo summit in 1994, 160 countries agreed that the world was overpopulated and running out of resources. At that time it was agreed to reduce the world's population to 800 million by 2030. He then details everything that has been done since then to start this process: poisoning water with fluoride, designing viruses and diseases, and dispersing substances in the air. The HIV virus was distributed in vaccines in 1980 and this was a kind of trial. Several more viruses were designed thereafter. It says that a strain is planned to be distributed for 2017/2018.
  • He then says that the 1997 Phoenix event (The Phoenix Lights) which was witnessed by 10,000 witnesses was a test of the use of holographic technology.
  • Finally he talks about a plan for the year 2024 of holographic simulation of an alien invasion. Taking advantage of the chaos, real government ships will slaughter their own people. The chaos will lead to the formation of a world government.
I know, there are too many questions and holes in his testimony:
  • There is no way to corroborate absolutely nothing he says.
  • How is it that having been linked to such a secret organization he can now tell this story without major consequences?
  • He never explains how he "deprogrammed" himself and/or got out of it all.
  • In his statements there are several connections to material that has been released by some disinformation agents before.
Beyond the unreliability of the material, I thought it might be interesting to share it.
 
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Lyndi Lama

The Force is Strong With This One
I get no sense of truth in anything he says. That feeling of downward energy. Lies, there's a pressure down from the head, at least that's my feeling. Interesting though to find something that seems so totally off.... It isn't often some article is zero truth. If it isn't just the head cold I have at the moment that gives that sinking feeling, lol!
 

Soluna

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
It is certainly interesting to think about. From one perspective, everything he said could be true, but why would the PTB care when people's scepticism is so conditioned that no one would believe the info anyway? Those with a modicum of curiosity who may investigate the claims would come across the same nothing the OP found, being well adept at scrubbing information and people from apparent existence, especially from the cursory internet search.

A sad thing is, there is often a grain of truth even if the testimony is complete BS, something for conspiracy nuts to chew on. But the missing children is certainly true, and the average person would gloss over this sad truth simply due to the rest of the unbelievable context.
 

Ursus Minor

The Living Force
  • He says that he himself killed Paul William Cooper (in a quick search I found nothing about him), Milton Vigay (nothing), Claude Monroe (nothing), Anthony Vargas (nothing), and documentary filmmaker Samantha Willis (nothing). He strangled Samantha.
  • According to him, in 1954 Dwight Eisenhower signed a kind of treaty with the gray aliens that established that in exchange for technology the government would cover up the abductions. Both the treaty and the abductions continue today.

I have not yet studied the link you've shared.

I think one of the people you were looking for must have been William "Bill" Cooper, author of the book 'Behold A Pale Horse'. Cooper was a conspiracy researcher or conspiracy theorist, take your pick.

In alternative research circles the story of Pres. Eisenhower meeting Nordic aliens at Muroc Field (later known as Edwards AFB) on Feb. 20, 1954 is widely spread.

As the story goes the Nordics were not inclined to support Eisenhower and the US unless the latter were willing to give up nuclear armaments. I'm not sure whether there was a treaty at all.

There seems to have been a second meeting with the Greys at Holloman AFB (NM) also in 1954.

William Cooper explained the terms of the 1954 treaty reached with the Grey extraterrestrials as follows:

The treaty stated that the aliens would not interfere in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth a secret. They would furnish us with advanced technology and would help us in our technological development.​
They would not make any treaty with any other Earth nation.
They could abduct humans on a limited and periodic basis for the purpose of medical examination and monitoring of our development, with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, would have no memory of the event, and that the alien nation would furnish Majesty Twelve (MJ-12) with a list of all human contacts and abductees on a regularly scheduled basis.​

Eisenhower's Alien Treaty
 

seek10

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Finally he talks about a plan for the year 2024 of holographic simulation of an alien invasion. Taking advantage of the chaos, real government ships will slaughter their own people. The chaos will lead to the formation of a world government.
It looks to me this interview is a combination of truth and lies. We don't even know the video is from 1990's. population control, means to do it ( fluoride, virus etc.), abductions are seems to be correct. Their suggested aim as "Humans are out of control as food is not sufficient" looks to me as BS. Chemtrails as a means to control population is doubtful ( C's mention it as a reality control). C's also mentioned if aliens becomes visible, the "visual effects will not be sufficient". So, mentioning UFO invasion as a human technology may be one of the goals of this disinformation video along with many others (depending on the understanding of the reader). All this coming from purported reformed insider (aka expert). Disinformation as usual.
1994-11-19
Q: (T) Is the government planning to stage an invasion by aliens to cause the populace of the world to go into such a fear state that they will accept total control and domination?

A: Open. But if so, will "flop".

Q: (T) Why?

A: Many reasons: 1. Visual effects will be inadequate and will have "glitches". 2. Real invasion may take place first. 3. Other events may intercede.

Q: (T) Such as what?

A: Earth changes.

Q: (T) Am I correct in assuming that some of these hot-shot, big-wig guys in the government who have plans for taking over the whole world and making everything all happy and hunky-dory with them in charge, are just simply not in synch with the fact that there are some definite earth changes on the agenda? Are they missing something here?

A: Close. They are aware but in denial.

Q: (T) Are these earth changes going to occur prior to the arrival of the cometary cluster?

A: No. But "time" frame is, as of yet, undetermined.

Q: (T) Am I correct in saying that if they knew what was really going to happen that they would still continue with their stupid little plans to make money and try to control the world?

A: Yes. Greed is a sickness.
I also couldn't find any links to the people it mentioned. Well, they may say big-tech censored it. Sure they do it that doesn't preclude the fact that original source could be incorrect. This is a big battle for human mind played through forces who has no time. Covid hysteria looks to me as a one possible result of "real" invasion ( if "free will" is the ultimate decider)that is happened over many decade in front of our own eyes.
 
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