The beginning ... Collinear partners

[skymargo]

Hi, everyone ! It’s not easy to find a collinear partner in our reality and I just wonder how many collinear partners are here? Was it easy for you to meet each other and stay together ? Just the story of me finding Cassiopaea and my husband was rather difficult and filled with different kinds of attacks and I think it may be useful to others how we step by step managed/managing to overcome them.

Turning point was losing job, apartment and fiancé and I had to return to my home town and start everything from the scratch ...then on the VK forum of Castaneda I started to chat with my future husband (who already knew about “Cass project“). By the way, he started to write to me not knowing my face and choosing among thousands of subscribers and first of all asked what I knew about Gurdjieff...that moment I knew nothing about him but suddenly started googling and that very question made him so special among others who wrote to me ...At our first meeting we didn’t like each other, because we both shared our background straight away without masks (it was far from being ideal according to ‘standard’ people’s standards so to say. He was officially still married but separated 1,5 year ago-his case was discussed in a session December’13 as his former wife even wrote to Laura. My background was also rather drastic maybe I’ll find a thread to write about it later ). There should not have been a second try (as my future husband thought that night “why should I think I was and am better?” - Cosmic mind hint during his sleepless night?!). That understanding gave us the second chance and that time we managed to catch a glimpse of the cosmic connection between us

During the second meeting we expromptly went to aura foto and there was wise women who told me, that there is sort of a strange ‘lamb’ near the head. Later in the evening we went to the restaurant and noticed the men in black sitting next to our table and doing nothing but staring at us...And after at night I had the strongest headache in my life , it felt as if my head is breaking and on the verge of dying...but the next day I still asked him to give me that material I felt he knew , and that’s how I met Cassiopaea forum ! I was soooo excited reading it that was all goosebumps !!! Then shortly I got a job offer with office located just across the road of my future husband‘a one.. In a city of 15 million people it was just unbelievable luck!

So we became friends with a common aim ...but still part of me was telling to me that he is strange and wrong and I shouldn’t meet with him and even when he called me by the phone that voice told me not to pick up...that’s how we’ve come to attachments thing ...seems the main aim of that attachment was to make me avoid by all means our getting closer ...that’s how i started thinking of how I could get rid of it. First of all we joined the Gurdjieff workgroup led by Alan Francis ...at one of the training sessions the theme was the work with the mirror and this very day my future husband sent to me Laura’s pray audio and EE meditation and I also watched Laura’s videos Knowledge and Being... These all helped me to make a Self Spirit Release Therapy ! And It was a success! The morning after therapy, I woke up lying vice versa in my bed my feet on the pillow (I usually sleep almost not moving at all) and second, when I put my feet on the floor it was wet! During the sleep I felt like a lightning strike came through me. It turned out that night the heating battery next to my bed “suddenly and unexpectedly” broke out and made my bed standing in a pool))...and after it the voice in my head disappeared !

Then we came upon the issue of wishful thinking...after self release therapy my future husband thought that we shall be straight together but from my sight we were just friends ...and one night he had a dream him fighting with a dragon and having killed that beast in the end with a sword of some kind ... In the morning he woke up with a thought of letting me go as a girlfriend and felt easy ...and that’s how we stayed just friends another couple of months just giving me time to go deeper into Cassiopaea forum and understood myself and world around better while he always was near and surrounded me with care , love and good advice

The next important attack was when we were already engaged and went on vacation to Asia. When we were in Hong Kong in the evening of a perfect day my engagement ring disappeared...it was a strike for both of us and the system expected/planned a big quarrel...interestingly , that the same night my ex boyfriend from Macao (just across the straight) wrote to me asking to meet (we weren’t in touch couple of years ...). But we let the ring go and kept our harmony and love and as a present from the Cosmic mind our daughter came to us 9 months later As they say , you give pray to the universe and it gives you back the precious gift

Since then (we are already married 6 years and have 2 cute kids) we’ve gone and are going through all kind of attacks. Each time analyzing them after “the storm” we’re always surprised how sophisticated they are and organized, the way «accidents are not accidental”, especially before important events in life/decision crossroads. And what is about true love ? as Antoine de Saint-Exuperi said “the eyes are blind ...one must look from the heart”

 

[Antony]

I would like to add some details. After i broke up with Svetlana, the next 1,5 years i was feeling great, even alone. Nobody was feeding on me. Being happy with oneself - is a great state to be. If you have spare energy, there are a lot things of great universal importance you may do.
I started my thread then, a bit controversial. But still it led the Group to knowing the Russia, which was just a secondary topic somewhere there.
Of course, i was feeling ‘a bit lonely’ and some times when i went smoking, i prayed and asked Divine Cosmic mind to give me the chance to meet a collinear partner.
I was actually pessimistic about the chances. But still living by the Cs moto - Life is religion. Doing what i could, disperse knowledge, via cognitive resonance, brought me a couple of relatives and friends into the Cass project.
In my search i was following Castaneda’s, Gurdjieff’s subforum in VK (russian social network) groups.
There, in members list, i just ticked one foto of a member. The foto was from the back. I just felt an inspiration from above. Try, write. Rest you know from above

The point i would like to make-there is no free lunch. We have gone through all imaginable obstacles, attacks, prejudices. And still suffering from unexpected attacks. Be aware you may say.

 

[Antony]

But everything is possible. We create our reality

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

but still part of me was telling to me that he is strange and wrong and I shouldn’t meet with him and even when he called me by the phone that voice told me not to pick up...that’s how we’ve come to attachments thing ...seems the main aim of that attachment was to make me avoid by all means our getting closer

Did you feel the "thrill/connection" of being collinear with you just from reading the material?

Open question to all:

Has anyone thought that this material, selectively by extracts for manipulative use could not be used for those who act against this vibrational frequency? why believe that we would be infallible to it?

 

[skymargo]

Did you feel the "thrill/connection" of being collinear with you just from reading the material?

Open question to all:

Has anyone thought that this material, selectively by extracts for manipulative use could not be used for those who act against this vibrational frequency? why believe that we would be infallible to it?

The material and the man were two different things in my mind and were never connected , if I’ve understood your question in the right way...with the Cass material , it was collinearity from the first paragraph if I may say so...)) there were no doubts and no resist (suppose attachments can’t resist such level of vibrations ...). about my connection with Antony , it wasn’t straight away collinear ...First af all, I wasn’t fully awake yet , I had attachment and also kind of system programs on my mind so he stood out if the crowd but I couldnt understand why and so he seemed strange...and only with the help of material and hard work I had strength to resist and realize it all ...and only after I have come to find harmony in my personal life ...knowledge protects

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

it wasn’t straight away collinear ...First af all, I wasn’t fully awake yet , I had attachment and also kind of system programs on my mind so he stood out if the crowd but I couldnt understand why and so he seemed strange...

So the possible attack was to prevent the union between you even though you could observe collinearity? I am very struck by your experience because I am in something similar. I feel like Ulysses fighting in the sea with Poseidon, while trying to get back for Penelope and home (to my Heart) (laughs).

Thank you for sharing your story.

 

[Antony]

Would like to add to the story. Just shortly before (1 week) our first meeting came out the session.
A: For all forum members: Do not lose heart. Just remember that if you do all you can, yourselves in the future will bridge the gap. You are all potential transducers of information into chaos. Let that information be love/truth.

That Cs timely ‘guidance’ led me to carefully analyze, reflex, thoroughly re-think impressions after the 1st meeting, which could have actually become the last.
Cassies seeded in me hope of opportunity - that everything is possible, but only with Hard Work on selves
Then was a period of super intensive knowledge gaining by Skymargo, she just dived into that ‘Ocean’. Not nominally like some other people who Asked me for a link to this material, but then happened ‘not much’, i hope yet, with just making a view of ‘moving forward’ and even more for some-denial (strangely, but predictably enough, considering matrix control system,
some of these people are very smart, open minded, seemed ready for the soul growth. Some got OP instantly installed in their lives, some already were in the trap (very difficult task to ‘escape’ from the ‘prison’ because of the children, difficult life situations, some are trying to be saviors, where the partner cannot be saved, some - pity, those who pity(c) ), some got High Strangeness experience and basically were slow-downed/freezed on the path just shortly after. We still hope that some of them, from relatives to close friends will make it through ).
From my part, this period was quite a challenge as well. I thought, great, you see a hardWorking pretty woman, whom you sympathize and feel that there was a spark from her side too. She was going through material, every day sent me feedback on various topics, asked help for clarification on difficult issues, shared and we discussed her own findings...etc. And quite often we went for a walk, theaters, cinema, classical music concerts, karaoke (it was her idea and a revelation for me-liked it a lot- as Cs mentioned-voice is the voice of one’s soul, eyes- mirror of the soul)- but still we stayed just collinear friends...And a couple of times, i was challenged by wishful thinking, getting impatient and this led to stress, depressing situations on my side. Till, i just let that idea go away I just accepted, that i have a friend with whom we may share everything, support each other, strive for truth together. It was already a great godsend
And i let it flow naturally. Until one day, one month approx. after her Self spirit release therapy - she said something like - wait, ‘ice’ started melting...
Then came a turning point-after 6 months. There was a wedding of our family friend’s daughter. We understood (felt it inside from both sides, but not telling each other about it) that event is a good chance for us and our relationship’s progression - to go further than friends and along - to get acquainted with my parents.
The ‘matrix’ system started going berserk not to allow this to happen. One of my relatives was strictly against me inviting her (none of my relatives knew Skymargo in person till that moment). That friends inviting us - are quite rich, top russian artists/singers were headliners. It was a real battle for us, because one of my parents thought that i was trying to impress her with their’s (friend’s family) wealth. (After all those years we still can’t understand how this silly assumption/ prejudice/sudden program came to parent’s mind). We are a middle class family and were never trying to be who we are not.
But through the hard work, emotional balancing, ‘negotiating’ with all parties - event became possible. That evening she made a first step towards me. First kiss, dance.... Next day i silently ordered an engagement ring (which was eventually lost) and made a proposal in a month time-during a New Year celebration.

Sadly, but ironically, that friend’s daughter’s union collapsed after 5 years (as soon as their relationship was based basically upon rationale/social/wealth status).
P.s. - that family friends were after a long break at our place yesterday and every time we give them our gratitude for that just in time opportunity

P.p.s. And once again from me/us - huge thanks to Laura and Team, because without that Cassie Higher assistance it would be much harder/even if at all possible to navigate through this darkness and find/recognize each other

 

[Korzik18]

A beautiful love story! Thank you for sharing. You had many adventures and overcame your ordeal. Well done!

Hi, everyone ! It’s not easy to find a collinear partner in our reality and I just wonder how many collinear partners are here? Was it easy for you to meet each other and stay together ? Just the story of me finding Cassiopaea and my husband was rather difficult and filled with different kinds of attacks and I think it may be useful to others how we step by step managed/managing to overcome them.

I hope that @AndrewMn and I are collinear partners or soul mates. But we met each other before we met C's material. And only much later analyzing the events of the lived years we understood how the System tried to divide us and keep us apart.

At first sight, we met each other easily (it was as if we both followed a straight road to each other and never lost our way) and quickly got married. Even now it seems to us that our decision was rather oddly speedy. I am particularly prone to long thoughts and doubts, building different logical constructs. But at that moment it was as if we were both in a fog. This is love!
But the trials came later, including attacks through relatives.
Probably, if we hadn't met, separately, we wouldn't be here.

 

[Antony]

Thanks a lot Korzik18 and Andrew. That’s a great feeling to be on the way together On a bigger network scale - brotherhood of wo/men (c). Doing if only a little not to fail in that ‘lifetime’ quest
Hope we may bring our helpful input to the Network, as the Group’s work helped me/us out a big deal several times already

Interestingly you mentioned that you married before getting to know the forum work and it went smoothly. Possibly the system engages just after a person choses ‘red pill’/warrior/Work path-red dot on the radar starts bleeping if you may say so-becomes a danger.
As example - my relative, was slowly and accurately asking me for the knowledge-just were speaking a lot how the system/our world is run. He was steadily coming to understanding. As suddenly one day i came to visit - and saw 2 little accurate/neat scars 2 cm approx (like a surgical one’s) above the belly. I asked what is it? The answer was - absolutely no idea. He did not have any trauma, no surgery or anything like that for the last week since our last meeting. But suddenly, he just completely closed to the topic, started aggressively denying anything we talked about for some time... Like a switch off was made. Now he is being attacked via health issues...
I believe we will make it through

P.s Big thanks to one forum member, who encouraged us to switch from a passive mode to active participation

 

[skymargo]

So the possible attack was to prevent the union between you even though you could observe collinearity? I am very struck by your experience because I am in something similar. I feel like Ulysses fighting in the sea with Poseidon, while trying to get back for Penelope and home (to my Heart) (laughs).

Thank you for sharing your story.

What a good comparison with Ulysses yeah, when I look back it seemed to be more than just an attack but the real battle️And yes, its main purpose was to prevent the union , to get us apart as far as possible And I believe that precisely the fact that I felt/observed collinearity was the reason for attacks because they want us all stay asleep ...in case I didn’t feel anything I believe they wouldn’t have made so much efforts... I also impressed how much work on self the one shall do to get out of the System traps...and of course I don’t think I could get through it all alone...that’s why Cs always say to us to unite and network
I hope you’ll win your fight for your Penelope...never lose your heart

 

[skymargo]

A beautiful love story! Thank you for sharing. You had many adventures and overcame your ordeal. Well done!


I hope that @AndrewMn and I are collinear partners or soul mates. But we met each other before we met C's material. And only much later analyzing the events of the lived years we understood how the System tried to divide us and keep us apart.

At first sight, we met each other easily (it was as if we both followed a straight road to each other and never lost our way) and quickly got married. Even now it seems to us that our decision was rather oddly speedy. I am particularly prone to long thoughts and doubts, building different logical constructs. But at that moment it was as if we were both in a fog. This is love!
But the trials came later, including attacks through relatives.
Probably, if we hadn't met, separately, we wouldn't be here.

Thank you Korzik18 ! I’m happy our experience can be of use and encourage !
It’s great that in your case you recognized each other straight away Sometimes we dream with Antony if we’d met each other earlier we maybe could avoid those difficulties each of us have come through in our lives before our meeting ...so lucky you are !

What about attacks through relatives , I believe it’s the easiest channel for an attack as we are most vulnerable in this area because first, we don’t expect an attack from their side and turn out defenseless ...the second, we take their words/actions/life position/health issues to heart, put too much energy in their hardships and thus become ourselves an easy target for an attack ...

For example , recently I’ve came upon manipulative programming since very childhood on behalf of one of my relatives...I suspected smth wrong but fully understood it only after having gone through regression hypnosis therapy and my full awareness of it helped to stop it...I don’t blame my relative as she was just a channel for programming. We cant change them , but work on self

 

[Keit]

Until one day, one month approx. after her Self spirit release therapy - she said something like - wait, ‘ice’ started melting...

But suddenly, he just completely closed to the topic, started aggressively denying anything we talked about for some time... Like a switch off was made. Now he is being attacked via health issues...

For example , recently I’ve came upon manipulative programming since very childhood on behalf of one of my relatives...I suspected smth wrong but fully understood it only after having gone through regression hypnosis therapy and my full awareness of it helped to stop it...

Thank you for sharing, skymargo and Antony. I have some thoughts and questions based on the above.

First, it's important to note that although we should always keep in mind that attacks do happen and we should be aware of what is happening around us, it's best not to approach any conflict or challenging interaction as "an attack" or "a trap". Because it puts an emphasis on the "outside" interference, while often it has to do with our own personal programs and reactions.

Simply put, the understanding that there is "a battle that goes though us" should be primarily kept in the background, while "the front end" approach should be of a more "mundane"/psychological kind. We all have issues and programs, and other people too. And we all have our own lessons, and other people too.

The goal of this forum is to assist us with the task of understanding ourselves and improve our interactions with others, while being firmly grounded. Perceiving everything as "an attack" is sort of "overshooting it". To put things in perspective, until we've done a fare share of working on ourselves and cleaning our own machine, we ourselves can be a "conduit of attack or disturbance" for others. That's why Gurdjieff's concept of "external considering" is so important.

It's possible to find on the forum stories of others who went through a similar process, and it helped them rebalancing the information they saw on the forum with their daily interaction with people who are not interested in such topics.

Also, it would be great if you could share more about the "self-spirit release therapy" and "regression hypnosis therapy".

 

[Michael B-C]

I reiterate Keit's post above. As Laura once said the system has a program for everyone and as such we are all living in an attack zone and we don't get to make the rules here. Our best form of defense is therefore to recognize it has all the tools it could possibly need to seek out our self-delusions and weak spots so its best to assume we can only protect ourselves and those around us by focusing our work on what we can actually change, namely ourselves, and in the grounded here and now. By being over regarding of external threats we can fall into the trap of not realizing we ourselves are the major threat to ourselves as well as the ones we love. And we have a 100 ways to convince ourselves of all kinds of things that subtly increase our sense of self importance, even when we think we are making mighty progress on the path. In fact the more progress one makes the truer - and harder - this gets. And the most dangerous moment is when we convince ourselves we fully know what we are doing and that we are on top of things. That's often when we get really good at kicking ourselves in the head! Ask Laura, because if you read the Wave series you will come across many moments when even she discovered to her cost that cosmic COINTELPRO unerringly finds out all our blind spots. That's why networking here is so important - it can help show ourselves to ourselves in ways we would never otherwise see.

I would say if we are lucky enough to find ourselves in a relationship with the potential to become collinear these matters become doubly true. The following story told Ouspensky by Gurdjieff, about an evil magician, holds true no matter what the circumstances we believe we are in.

"There is an Eastern tale which speaks about a very rich magician who had a great many sheep. But at the same time this magician was very mean. He did not want to hire shepherds, nor did he want to erect a fence about the pasture where his sheep were grazing. The sheep consequently often wandered into the forest, fell into ravines, and so on, and above all they ran away, for they knew that the magician wanted their flesh and skins and this they did not like.

At last the magician found a remedy. He hypnotized his sheep and suggested to them first of all that they were immortal and that no harm was being done to them when they were skinned, that, on the contrary, it would be very good for them and even pleasant; secondly he suggested that the magician was a good master who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them; and in the third place he suggested to them that if anything at all were going to happen to them it was not going to happen just then, at any rate not that day, and therefore they had no need to think about it. Further the magician suggested to his sheep that they were not sheep at all; to some of them he suggested that they were lions, to others that they were eagles, to others that they were men, and to others that they were magicians. And after this all his cares and worries about the sheep came to an end. They never ran away again but quietly awaited the time when the magician would require their flesh and skins.”

 

[skymargo]

Thank you @Keit and @Michael B-C for very good notes and advice! I do see what you mean that’s why when I first meet with the material I’ve understood how much work I had to do on self and still have...I usually don’t seek the roots of obstacles in others but on the contrary , dig in myself ...but while my some weak points I realize very well and learn to handle them , the others can only be better seen from the side , that’s why I see I shall learn/train my external consideration better (thanks for pointing at it)...
For example , recently I hurt a person very dear to me...I realized that though I can’t change that fact I still can change myself and the consequences (this is one of my good points , I’m never discouraged with what already happened but look ahead looking for solutions)...so instead of blaming myself or others , I started to analyze every point in my head that could lead to this, I dug deeper and deeper and did find some answers! And I saw I needed some help that’s how I’ve come to regression hypnosis therapy .
Actually it was second time I’ve been done regressive hypnosis . First time I asked Alan Francis to do it after one of our Gurdjieff group trainings. But there were no intent of therapy; just of pure curiosity I’ve asked him if he can lead me to my previos life and he did...that was an interesting experience but only at my recent regression hypnosis therapy I’ve understood why I’ve gone there and how it can be of use ...I just didn’t ask him then and he didn’t violate free will law...So when I went to regression hypnosis therapy the second time I guessed I have some programming elements in my mind and my intent was to find their origins and fix them , so to say. One I found in my previos life , and the other in my family bloodline ... In short, I went there, looked for when and how was started negative program, realized it, changed the pattern , helped the negatives go to the light and went back...Maybe it sounds easy but it took me around 6 hours...some changes I felt straight away, some since 2-3 months ... Anyway, I don’t believe regression hypnosis therapy is the answer for all the problems ))..most of the time we can deal very well with our weak points applying knowledge and networking ...
What about self-spirit release therapy , I don’t think I can add more than I’ve already described before, here it is :

First of all we joined the Gurdjieff workgroup led by Alan Francis ...at one of the training sessions the theme was the work with the mirror and this very day my future husband sent to me Laura’s pray audio and EE meditation and I also watched Laura’s videos Knowledge and Being... These all helped me to make a Self Spirit Release Therapy ! And It was a success! The morning after therapy, I woke up lying vice versa in my bed my feet on the pillow (I usually sleep almost not moving at all) and second, when I put my feet on the floor it was wet! During the sleep I felt like a lightning strike came through me. It turned out that night the heating battery next to my bed “suddenly and unexpectedly” broke out and made my bed standing in a pool))...and after it the voice in my head disappeared !

 

[Antony]

Dear Keit, thanks for you observation. Of course it’s not just external influences. We become open for attacks if we get stuck up by routine for a long time/get ‘asleep’ so to say, as we, i suppose, all do sometimes in our every day life. It has been and is quite a challenge. Different aspects and angles. And the system know when to push/strike. So it is a mutual failure process so to say. The good thing is that after such a difficult situation/case-you wake up, analyze what had led to it and make, i hope, right conclusions not to get into such cyclical ‘cataclysms’.
All is lessons even if you have high knowledge but not always applying it in the right/preventive time.

P.s. About a relative that closed to info, i made an assumption, that he was ‘intervened’ in order to stop him. As we know from the material, 4 d sts implants are not noticable, but the 3 d sts are rough and ‘compromised’.