The "Luciferian Insurgency" is seeking to exploit looming earth changes

[JGeropoulas]

This video about the "Luciferian Insurgency" now brazenly exposing itself to the world, features an interview of a guy who earned a college degree in history, served in the Marines, became an EMT/firefighter and eventually converted to Christianity, served as a missionary in the Dominican Republic and became a pastor. His passion for learning lead to immersing himself in studying the Biblical prophecies, history and a diverse range of sciences. While he doesn't reveal anything unfamiliar to Forum readers, he does a good job tying things together for someone who is unaware of the big picture. It's gratifying to see so many of these "obscure" ideas being promulgated to a broader, more general audience.

He is well-versed in many issues discussed on the forum here (e.g. the Younger-Dryass Impact theory), which provides for a wide-ranging discussion of looming earth changes and cataclysms described in Biblical passages and how they're related to a cosmic judgment--nicely paralleling the contents of "Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection". Here are a few highlights.

The asteroid, Apophsis, is headed for close passage in 2029, but will be visible in 2025 and cause hysteria in the population. Government simulations have shown they cannot prevent the breakdown of civilization that will ensue. Thus they have revved up their depopulation efforts with a target date of 2025, a date identified by various sources (e.g. Degal). COVID has been the culmination of this effort, as well as for setting up controls over the a soon-to-be-terrified population.

Even back in the 1980's, Reagan's star wars program, (followed by research development of directed energy waves (DEW), global warming counter-measures, etc.)--all supposedly efforts to prepare for a space-oriented defense--have actually been preparations to dominate in a cosmic battle against the return of Christ (i.e. the coming restoration/transition of the earth).

Currently he's working to establish a network of "Faith Havens" (like the underground railroad during the Civil War) where people can take refuge in the coming chaos.

Jamie Walden and Mike Adams talk Christian faith and the Luciferian INSURRECTION against God

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[benkostka]

I made it to him stating he cut his teeth on Alex Jones. Hopefully all these ex-military warriors can find each other and live out their preferred end times scenario far away from other people. They’ve certainly been programmed perfectly to get “Raptured”.

 

[JGeropoulas]

I made it to him stating he cut his teeth on Alex Jones. Hopefully all these ex-military warriors can find each other and live out their preferred end times scenario far away from other people. They’ve certainly been programmed perfectly to get “Raptured”.

Well, many people (including myself) began waking up by hearing Alex Jones, who was one of the only alternative news reporters available back in the day. Despite any concerns about Alex, that historical detail in this guy's journey shouldn't be allowed to deprive you of hearing all else that's discussed in this video (see quotes below)

 

[benkostka]

Right, well these guys are pretty stuck on the whole “Biblical” deal, so it really doesn’t align with the work of people on this forum.

 

[JGeropoulas]

Right, well these guys are pretty stuck on the whole “Biblical” deal, so it really doesn’t align with the work of people on this forum.

I think you missed the point that there's a clear parallel between Biblical descriptions of looming cataclysmic events and the views of those on this forum, as detailed in "Earth Changes--The Cosmic-Human Connection". Certainly the Bible is not the "infallible word of God", but neither is it irrelevant and meaningless. As with the C's revelations, we have to interpret Biblical information critically, in full consideration that the information may be symbolic vs. literal (particularly as likely remnants of Fourth Way teachings) and vulnerable to corruption due to the fallibility of the original receivers (and regarding the Bible, corruption due to intentional efforts by those with nefarious agendas). Two good examples of such careful analysis, are Laura's books, "The Horns of Moses" and "From Paul to Mark--Paleochristianity".

 

[Mark7]

To paraphrase Paul, we all currently 'see through a glass darkly' and we are about to see and hear things we have no context or syntax for. We must strive to know as much as we are able, with a focus on truth, and have faith in dealing with what we cannot know or yet understand. Nobody has a perfect understanding, to survive the changes we must find common empathetic ground and network.
With that being said, I fear that there may be some soul-crushing traps for the uninformed fundamentalists. That goes especially for those that think that God will save the US because 'manifest destiny' or some such sacred cow stuff. Seems like all the treasures we have stored up here on earth will soon need an insurance policy for inclement cosmic weather.

 

[benkostka]

I think you missed the point that there's a clear parallel between Biblical descriptions of looming cataclysmic events and the views of those on this forum, as detailed in "Earth Changes--The Cosmic-Human Connection". Certainly the Bible is not the "infallible word of God", but neither is it irrelevant and meaningless. As with the C's revelations, we have to interpret Biblical information critically, in full consideration that the information may be symbolic vs. literal (particularly as likely remnants of Fourth Way teachings) and vulnerable to corruption due to the fallibility of the original receivers (and regarding the Bible, corruption due to intentional efforts by those with nefarious agendas). Two good examples of such careful analysis, are Laura's books, "The Horns of Moses" and "From Paul to Mark--Paleochristianity".

The guy in this video however, does believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God, in fact he mentions that multiple times. So aside from perhaps the subjects being discussed I can’t see the parallels between this discussion and a book like Comets and the Horns of Moses, it’s like living in two different realities. In one you do careful analysis, in the other you use the Bible to frame everything.

 

[JGeropoulas]

The guy in this video however, does believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God, in fact he mentions that multiple times. So aside from perhaps the subjects being discussed I can’t see the parallels between this discussion and a book like Comets and the Horns of Moses, it’s like living in two different realities. In one you do careful analysis, in the other you use the Bible to frame everything.

I fully appreciate your aversion to thinking that's locked into a strict, popular (and usually erroneous) view of the Bible. But as I said, "he does a good job tying things together for someone who is unaware of the big picture", meaning by "someone", many Christians who need to become more open to new perspectives, especially about Biblical information. As Gurdjieff taught, religions, flawed as they are, serve a purpose in spiritual evolution: a springboard for development of concepts of higher realities, higher levels of being, etc.

 

[benkostka]

I fully appreciate your aversion to thinking that's locked into a strict, popular (and usually erroneous) view of the Bible. But as I said, "he does a good job tying things together for someone who is unaware of the big picture", meaning by "someone", many Christians who need to become more open to new perspectives, especially about Biblical information. As Gurdjieff taught, religions, flawed as they are, serve a purpose in spiritual evolution: a springboard for development of concepts of higher realities, higher levels of being, etc.

I would just disagree with your assessment of the video. My opinion, for the portion I was able to listen to is that it won’t help amyone, it would in fact just confuse them or confirm their Biblical perspective.

I agree that religions can be a springboard, however the guy in this video isn’t using it as such. He’s fully bought in lock, stock and barrel into the Bible being the “Word of God”. He’s definitely not aware of the “Big Picture”, in fact his picture is framed by the Bible. He even states in the video he ignores scientific evidence, preferring the scripture. What’s he really open to?

I’d also say that Christians can do whatever they want, they don’t need to become more open to new perspectives. They’re free to believe the Bible right down to the letter. Certainly they’ll have a rough go of things when it’s apparent that their interpretation is wrong, but that’s life.

I think a lot about what the C’s have mentioned that it’s not that we will save ourselves by enduring it all to the end, it’s that we can save others. I don’t see much opportunity to help a guy who believes the Bible literally, he’s already made up his mind and it’s just about in direct opposition to this forum. I don’t view anything that’s mentioned in that video as being collinear to the effort being put forth here. If you do then we just disagree, which is ok.

 

[JGeropoulas]

I would just disagree with your assessment of the video. My opinion, for the portion I was able to listen to is that it won’t help amyone, it would in fact just confuse them or confirm their Biblical perspective.

I agree that religions can be a springboard, however the guy in this video isn’t using it as such. He’s fully bought in lock, stock and barrel into the Bible being the “Word of God”. He’s definitely not aware of the “Big Picture”, in fact his picture is framed by the Bible. He even states in the video he ignores scientific evidence, preferring the scripture. What’s he really open to?

I’d also say that Christians can do whatever they want, they don’t need to become more open to new perspectives. They’re free to believe the Bible right down to the letter. Certainly they’ll have a rough go of things when it’s apparent that their interpretation is wrong, but that’s life.

I think a lot about what the C’s have mentioned that it’s not that we will save ourselves by enduring it all to the end, it’s that we can save others. I don’t see much opportunity to help a guy who believes the Bible literally, he’s already made up his mind and it’s just about in direct opposition to this forum. I don’t view anything that’s mentioned in that video as being collinear to the effort being put forth here. If you do then we just disagree, which is ok.

I think that I valued this guy's relative breadth of knowledge about scientific data (e.g. Younger-Dryas theory) because such extra-Biblical information is unknown to most conservative Christian communities. So for those people, this holds the potential for an enlargement of their truth database--always a good thing. As for the value of this in terms of service to others, it assists people like me, surrounded by conservative Christians I love, to potentially help them see more and be better prepared for what lies ahead. My perspective is guided by the fact that the C's, in the early days, revealed details of Jesus' life in response to Laura's questions, only to many years later, in response to Laura's more open-minded questions, explain that Jesus was actually an amalgamation of details of Caesar's life. They explained this was due to their desire to meet Laura where she was at in earlier times, by responding in ways that respected her free will by not wantonly destroying her preconceived notions. Though people are in varying stages of spiritual development, any step forward at any level is progress valued by the universe it seems to me.

 

[Toni Lorenzo]

Well, many people (including myself) began waking up by hearing Alex Jones, who was one of the only alternative news reporters available back in the day. Despite any concerns about Alex, that historical detail in this guy's journey shouldn't be allowed to deprive you of hearing all else that's discussed in this video (see quotes below)

Hello, JGeropoulas, there were others back in the day and far better then Jones. William Cooper has been given credit for starting the entire movement, and clashed with Jones several times. See for your self. https://www.youtube.com/@billcooperc-luke573/videos

 

[JGeropoulas]

Hello, JGeropoulas, there were others back in the day and far better then Jones. William Cooper has been given credit for starting the entire movement, and clashed with Jones several times. See for your self. https://www.youtube.com/@billcooperc-luke573/videos

Yes, indeed. "Behold A Pale Horse" was a masterpiece of revelation, for which Bill paid dearly with his life.