The Situation In Germany

Ursus Minor

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Recommendation of the ARD: Silence is the first civic duty

German state television was coming up with a dusty old quotation by Count of Schulenburg-Kehnert who was the Prussian military governor of Berlin in 1806. Following two major defeats against the Napoleonic invaders, the count was practically asking Berliners to stay calm in view of the coming capture of the city.

Apart from the fact that nobody wants to be unnecessarily reminded of civic duties there seems to be a growing feeling of unease among the minions of the political control system.

As long as they were just playing with their favorite mind-control toys like climate, gender and sustainable development, people were mainly looking the other way.

When it comes to food, heating and electricity they may have taken a step too far (although they have been ordered so from 'above').
You could also mention inflation, job losses and growing poverty.

I fully expect the splintering or demise of the Greens within the next six months.

Now that the EU has endorsed nuclear power and natural gas as 'green' the German Green party will be at each other's throats.
 

Nachtweide

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
Living in France now, I limit the time I spend reading up about the situation in Germany, but of course, I talk to family and try to have at least an idea of what is going on. What I want to share might be a story similar to what many people are experiencing at the moment.

My father called me this morning, we have been talking about prices for firewood, etc, a lot in the past few months.
This week my father and his wife got the information that their monthly costs for energy and gas will go up from 140 Euro per month to 600 Euro per month. That is quadrupling the price. Both of them are retired, and they have both worked in the social field. Having spent their working life and a lot of energy helping others, their income and now their pension is a joke. It is enough not to call them poor but it is a tight budget. He said they will manage the extra expenses for energy and gas but it will mean they have to touch what they have put aside for emergencies. This comes after the chimney sweeper told them in Spring that they would have to get a new stove to burn firewood. Green politics have tightened regulations and their stove was too old. Obedient Germans that they are they got rid of the stove and invested some thousand Euros in a new "greener" model. And they are grateful that they got one, because, of course, everyone tries to get their hand on an alternative heating source now. The price of firewood in my home town went up from around 70 Euro per meter to 100. And that is cheap, in many regions, especially in the South of Germany, prices are exploding.

That is what I hear from my family. What I see is, if you have the money, increasing prices might be a nuisance but not a problem, if you are poor enough you can rely on governmental aid for heating costs and rent. If you are middle class like my father and his wife, well you are... They want to eradicate the middle class? Well, they are doing a fine job.

But besides the normal worries I have for my family, I would have wished for them to spend their retirement without having to think twice or three times if they still can afford to do the things they enjoy, besides that, I am angry. I thought I had learned a thing or two over the last 2 years. For example that people's choices are their own, that I can't make them see what is going on, and that it is not my task to push them on what I think would be the right path for them. Including minor hiccups in the form of some tense short discussions about me not being, and not getting vaccinated, we managed as a family. I distanced myself from them with regard to some truths and topics but tried to seek common ground wherever possible. But now, this utter acceptance of the changes in their financial situation, the compliance to rather cut back on things that you love doing? My father said they have it so good, we in the West had it so good (I fear someone discovered the ailment of Western privilige). All that without any questions if this is what should be happening. Without doubting the rightfulness of Western sanctions. Just meekly getting in line with, what sounds and is like good old wartime perseverance slogans. It gets at me. In Germany, we have the fitting phrase "vorrauseilender Gehorsam". Some kind of anticipatory obedience. I am sick and tired of having seen it reemerge over the last few years. Please excuse this little rant, I thought I share it as an anecdote. And I will try to gain back my balance and not lose energy in the process. Upwards and onwards, these times are anything but boring.
From a bird's eye view, the perception that the middle class in Germany is the target of the attack is entirely correct. The vast majority of the so-called middle class will be pushed into the upper poverty line by the time they retire. They are not part of the government assistance because their pensions are still above the red line. Due to increased prices, they slip below the poverty line, but because of their pension level, they have no right to expect government assistance. They are also unable to obtain food from the social food banks. The middle class owns the most real estate and has the greatest cash assets. The upper middle class can still handle the costs and I wonder in what way it will be attacked. Presumably it will be the 2024 equalization of burdens. Personally, I am sure that the current market dictatorship is the preparation for the collapse of the system in 2023 as an intended side effect. The social systems will be blown up because they can no longer be financed. Everything will be unified - health insurance, pensions - citizen's money for all. Of course, there will then be the appropriate survey in which "the majority of Germans" approve of this unified measure.
Not to forget the fact that the sickness rate will rise to unimaginable heights and thus many will fall into reduced sick pay or will no longer be able to work. Many in my circle are contemplating an earlier start to retirement with high losses. This is also a consequence of these measures and desired by the government. A pension cut through the back door.
The breakup of the "Greens" is for me a strong indication that the green agenda has failed worldwide. Also the speed of all political measures and threats shows that everything has gone off the rails here. A major reason will probably be the fear that many people are now waking up, as their existence is seriously threatened. This leads to disappointment that the state has abandoned its protective role and thrown them into the deep end. At the same time, the incredible injustice suddenly becomes visible in all issues. The people are first rebelling on a small scale - at home, at the bar. People are currently testing out whether opinions against the state and the market can be expressed publicly. At the same time, the government says that criticism of measures is right-wing. One suddenly finds oneself on the side of the conspirators. Germans are cowards - before they express their opinion, they need to be sure that they are in the majority group. Only then do they become loud and brave - one prefers to howl with the dogs in the herd. This process is taking place at the moment. What is needed now are courageous leaders who will allow people to express their needs on the streets.
The time line we are on in Germany is in the end a dead end with great material and human losses. It is the time line of Schwab with the dream of enslavement. Putin cannot save us - we have to do the work ourselves. And it is absolutely necessary that this evil system installed by psychopaths must be destroyed completely. From the ruins we will rise and build a new world. The nightmare of the Deep State - a connection between German capital, German technology with the raw materials and human capital of Russia will become a reality. What belongs together will always find each other.
 

etezete

Jedi Council Member
From a bird's eye view, the perception that the middle class in Germany is the target of the attack is entirely correct. The vast majority of the so-called middle class will be pushed into the upper poverty line by the time they retire. They are not part of the government assistance because their pensions are still above the red line. Due to increased prices, they slip below the poverty line, but because of their pension level, they have no right to expect government assistance. They are also unable to obtain food from the social food banks. The middle class owns the most real estate and has the greatest cash assets. The upper middle class can still handle the costs and I wonder in what way it will be attacked. Presumably it will be the 2024 equalization of burdens. Personally, I am sure that the current market dictatorship is the preparation for the collapse of the system in 2023 as an intended side effect. The social systems will be blown up because they can no longer be financed. Everything will be unified - health insurance, pensions - citizen's money for all. Of course, there will then be the appropriate survey in which "the majority of Germans" approve of this unified measure.
Not to forget the fact that the sickness rate will rise to unimaginable heights and thus many will fall into reduced sick pay or will no longer be able to work. Many in my circle are contemplating an earlier start to retirement with high losses. This is also a consequence of these measures and desired by the government. A pension cut through the back door.
The breakup of the "Greens" is for me a strong indication that the green agenda has failed worldwide. Also the speed of all political measures and threats shows that everything has gone off the rails here. A major reason will probably be the fear that many people are now waking up, as their existence is seriously threatened. This leads to disappointment that the state has abandoned its protective role and thrown them into the deep end. At the same time, the incredible injustice suddenly becomes visible in all issues. The people are first rebelling on a small scale - at home, at the bar. People are currently testing out whether opinions against the state and the market can be expressed publicly. At the same time, the government says that criticism of measures is right-wing. One suddenly finds oneself on the side of the conspirators. Germans are cowards - before they express their opinion, they need to be sure that they are in the majority group. Only then do they become loud and brave - one prefers to howl with the dogs in the herd. This process is taking place at the moment. What is needed now are courageous leaders who will allow people to express their needs on the streets.
The time line we are on in Germany is in the end a dead end with great material and human losses. It is the time line of Schwab with the dream of enslavement. Putin cannot save us - we have to do the work ourselves. And it is absolutely necessary that this evil system installed by psychopaths must be destroyed completely. From the ruins we will rise and build a new world. The nightmare of the Deep State - a connection between German capital, German technology with the raw materials and human capital of Russia will become a reality. What belongs together will always find each other.
I think this is an eyeopener for many, it is Gaby Weber interviewing Werner Rügemer. They talk about the sellout of Germany, that is going on since Chanceler Schröder. He was bragging about bringing in big Money, Merkel continued it, but kept quiet about it. Blackrock came in then. Now Blackrock is investing in EVERY DAX-noted Korporation! But the Bundeskartellamt seams to be blind to this new kind of Monopolization (is that the word?)...

only in german.

 

floetus

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
But besides the normal worries I have for my family, I would have wished for them to spend their retirement without having to think twice or three times if they still can afford to do the things they enjoy, besides that, I am angry. I thought I had learned a thing or two over the last 2 years. For example that people's choices are their own, that I can't make them see what is going on, and that it is not my task to push them on what I think would be the right path for them. Including minor hiccups in the form of some tense short discussions about me not being, and not getting vaccinated, we managed as a family. I distanced myself from them with regard to some truths and topics but tried to seek common ground wherever possible. But now, this utter acceptance of the changes in their financial situation, the compliance to rather cut back on things that you love doing? My father said they have it so good, we in the West had it so good (I fear someone discovered the ailment of Western privilige). All that without any questions if this is what should be happening. Without doubting the rightfulness of Western sanctions. Just meekly getting in line with, what sounds and is like good old wartime perseverance slogans. It gets at me. In Germany, we have the fitting phrase "vorrauseilender Gehorsam". Some kind of anticipatory obedience. I am sick and tired of having seen it reemerge over the last few years. Please excuse this little rant, I thought I share it as an anecdote. And I will try to gain back my balance and not lose energy in the process. Upwards and onwards, these times are anything but boring.
I can understand your frustration, especially when it comes to family and loved ones. It's hard to watch them hurt and undermine themselves on the basis of a false belief. It's not much different with my parents, who are pretty much in line with the official narratives. Whatever they do, I know it's their choice and that they have the right to choose their own path, wherever that might lead to. And even if I really knew what would be best for them (maybe I just think I know) I couldn't force it, even if I wanted to. It's like forcing a blind man to see a danger visible on the horizon. But still ...

When I met my parents a few month ago I tried to keep my opposing views to myself and focus on the things we have in common, which worked well most of the time, but at some point I couldn't help it. It was about Ukraine. I carefully infused some facts and reminded them of things they once knew, but got burried under layers of propaganda. But even after they admitted certain truths I knew very well that it won't be for long. I gave it three mornings of news paper reading and three evenings of tv news and it's all burried again. When my father recently called he had nothing better to do than informing me about the latest "News". Talking to my parents is like switching on the tv or radio. It's almost like dealing with children, who get easily impressed and easily excited, who are highly suggestible. "But we talked about this, don't you remember?" No, all burried.

It's ironic that the very things that were associated with being a responsible grown up - reading the newspaper and watching the evening news - are the very things, that turn you into a child when push comes to shove. I found it very dissapointing to realize that at one point.
Imagine that my father introduced me to the writings of the German author and historian Sebastian Haffner, who witnessed a similar kind of brainwashing in Nazi Germany and who was able to see through it and analyse it.

Every time I get triggered, I'm wondering the same thing: Don't you know better by now? But than I say to myself: Yes, you do - it's just a little more difficult with parents and it needs practice.
 

Voyageur

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
Germans are cowards - before they express their opinion, they need to be sure that they are in the majority group. Only then do they become loud and brave - one prefers to howl with the dogs in the herd. This process is taking place at the moment. What is needed now are courageous leaders who will allow people to express their needs on the streets.

Fwiw, and agree, many must seek refuge in crowds, however the crowd part is generally the path of least resistance, yet I don't know what it was like in Germany before (I've family who live in Germany) - say a decade ago. Here at home in Canada, people here are generally either one way (leftish), or they are quiet - many are quiet now, so things are difficult to gauge sometimes. Cowardliness, so to speak, seems to have been incremental, accompanied by media that fails to listen, algorithms that herd, education changes to modify, social platforms to denounce and new laws and orders to make things official, all played a big role. Also; and this hit so many of us at the same time, workplace policies started to change (it had always seemed to me they basically took these policies off a shelf as they all look the same). The real divide and breakdown timeline, here anyway, seems to have center around Trump's run, and then his election, and thereafter all hell broke loose socially - or the appearance of it was highlighted and even clapped (even if not living in that country). Even at that - Trump, people could still speak, as divided as people were. Other steps since, such as gender identity and say BLM, appeared to ramp it all up, and covid buried the hatchet (also quickly exposing their game). The latter has broken so many people, with little room for them to push back, and institutionally, no one seems to listen or care anyway, so there is no place to turn. It may also be that many are now more strategic, just not disclosing - I think what can be seen is that people are not alone when they think they are, it is just that they are frightened to become socially ostracized (or in Canadian fascism, have your bank account locked down). If you get them talking alone outside a crowd, it is sometimes surprising what you hear.

I found it very dissapointing to realize that at one point.
Imagine that my father introduced me to the writings of the German author and historian Sebastian Haffner, who witnessed a similar kind of brainwashing in Nazi Germany and who was able to see through it and analyse it.

It sure does seem to follow the old words of Haffner, with some nuanced changes here for the offering:


With fearful menace {orders} the state demands that the individual {the individual now must be completely controlled - it is all for the greater good; C02, Covid-vax etc.} give up his friends {distanced on physical and ideological levels}, abandon his lovers, renounce his beliefs and assume new, prescribed ones {with new laws to back them up}. He must use a new form of greeting {pronouns for instance or in code to those they know}, eat and drink in ways he does not fancy {might be bugs eventually, but a passport has been needed}, employ his leisure in occupations he abhors {masked - and slightly Marxist}, make himself available for activities he despises {at work, this might be anything that forces indoctrination of egregious social policies - with forced participation in same}, and deny his past and his individuality {maybe his white privilege et cetera}. For all this, he must constantly express extreme enthusiasm and gratitude {free of any kind of microaggressions - basically, breaking peoples authentic selves}.

During work before, had a colleague that had a serious side when appropriate, but also a happy go-lucky side, with the ability to change often serious atmosphere to help people. He is too scared to say a word now. It is like one giant scratch test, people react at the slightest thing - looking over your shoulder has become the norm.

Anyway, in the west there are not big margin as to where you are in all this nonsense (as the C's say it is not where you are), and perhaps it might be easier here and harder there, yet it is prolific across continents. Perhaps, too, the tides will change - and they will eventually, but it is painful watching and waiting; and this gets back to your opening on expressing opinions, they just are not doing so. This also seems to get back to the Session discussions on suffering, they have not suffered enough. Sad.

May all of you in the EU find something to hold through the processes of these changes.
 

cassandra

The Living Force
FOTCM Member

Because of reduced gas supplies from Russia: RWE wants to operate lignite-fired power plants​



In view of the energy crisis, RWE is increasingly using coal to generate electricity. This is "hopefully a short-term problem". In the longer term, they want to operate in a more environmentally friendly way, but a secure supply must first be guaranteed.

Because of reduced gas supplies from Russia: RWE wants to operate lignite-fired power plants
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Wind turbines, a lignite power plant and bucket-wheel excavators near the Garzweiler II mining area, Lützerath, Germany.
Essen-based energy giant RWE AG plans to increase the use of coal for power generation in the short term given the drop in gas supplies from Russia, Chief Financial Officer Michael Mueller told CNBC . "RWE supports the German government and other European governments in overcoming the energy crisis. That is why we will continue to increase our coal capacities in order to master the situation," said Müller.
RWE plans to operate three lignite-fired power plants to generate electricity from October. The company's website states that lignite, considered the most polluting energy source, "has remained reliable to date." RWE produces millions of tons of the fossil fuel every year.


"What is happening now is hopefully a short-term problem where we have to ensure a secure supply," said Müller. "And so we feel it is our duty to support the German government in restoring (electricity generation) capacity in the short term. ... So in the short term we will have to resort to additional coal, but it should be clear that we also have the program for renewable Energies will accelerate in order to achieve our long-term goals," emphasized Müller.

The company has been criticized by environmental and consumer advocates because, according to them, it declares fossil fuels to be environmentally friendly and, on the other hand, benefits from the enormous cost increases that many private consumers find difficult to afford. The energy giant presented its business figures for the first half of the year on Thursday. As early as July, the group had raised its forecast for the year as a whole based on preliminary figures – an adjusted operating result (adjusted EBITDA) of EUR 5 to 5.5 billion was expected. That's over a third more than originally estimated; RWE had already corrected the previous forecast upwards in mid-February. The reasons for the increase included good business in energy trading, where RWE is benefiting from high energy prices.

France: Two nuclear power plants reduce their output

France: Two nuclear power plants reduce their output

The Essen-based energy group sees the decision to continue operating its Emsland nuclear power plant beyond the end of the year as a political one. "It is important that a stress test is carried out now. On the basis of the stress test, politicians will then make the decision and we will wait and see," said RWE CEO Markus Krebber on Thursday in Essen when the half-year figures were presented. After the decision, things are going "in the direction that politicians want".

Krebber further explained: "We have said before that the capacity of the plants that would be available is manageable. The effect on gas savings is also manageable. There are legal and regulatory hurdles." In the so-called stress test, the transmission system operators are to check the security of the power supply in Germany under more stringent conditions. When the result will come is still open.

On Wednesday, the energy company E.ON expressed reservations about the continued operation of its Isar nuclear power plant in Lower Bavaria, but at the same time signaled its willingness to talk. "If the federal government comes to a reassessment of the situation as part of the ongoing stress test, then we are ready to talk," said E.ON CFO Marc Spieker.

There are still three nuclear power plants connected to the grid in Germany. The operator of the third power plant in Neckarwestheim (Baden-Württemberg) is the energy group EnBW.

More on the topic - Low Rhine level can exacerbate energy problems
 

Eulenspiegel

Jedi Master
Mysterious mass fish kill in Oder River: Climate change or poison? | DW | 12.08.2022

Quick summary: A large amount of dead fish have been found in the Oder river on the border between Germany and Poland. Chemical pollution is suspected, although they're currently seeking to blame this on all kinds of potential causes (climate change! being their favorite, ofc).
The particular timing of this "incident" makes me think it wasn't an accident and could help in breaking down our sources of food and supply chains in the near future; a continuation of what has been happening in the Ukraine and the Netherlands.

As a sidenote, Germans know that their rivers are generally polluted to a high degree (especially the Elbe in Northern Germany) and have been in this state since quite some time. Not as bad as what I've seen in China and India, but bad enough.
Pollution of rivers has been mentioned in the German newscycles regularly, although this is the first time in recent years that they've tried to create panic around mass dyings and food supply.
At this point, the fact that the fishermen have become alarmed by the large amount of poisoned/dead fish indicates that this is unusual, and not necessarily simply the outcome of long-term pollution and/or "climate change" as news articles would like to indicate. Sabotage can therefore not be ruled out.
 
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