The suppression of Thomas L. Brodie by the Catholic Church

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I'm currently reading through some books by biblical scholar Thomas L. Brodie which I find to be excellent, open-minded, careful studies. On the back of the book I'm reading, "The Birthing of the New Testament", it says that he is "Director, Domincan Biblical Centre, Limerick, Ireland." So, I thought I might want to contact him. So, I did a google search and saw his wikipedia entry first.

Fr Thomas L. Brodie (born 1943) is an Irish Roman Catholic priest within the Dominican Order. He was born in Crusheen, County Clare.

Brodie earned his STD at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas in Rome in 1988, at the age of 48. He has taught Hebrew Scriptures and New Testament in various institutions across the United States and in South Africa, including the Aquinas Institute of Theology in St. Louis, Missouri.

Brodie has written a number of books about the Bible, with emphases on the Gospel of John, Genesis and the narratives of Elijah and Elisha. He has most frequently been published by Oxford University Press and Sheffield Phoenix Press.

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There I was dismayed to learn:

His 2012 book Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus: Memoir of a Discovery caused controversy when Brodie endorsed the Christ myth theory and expressed that Jesus of Nazareth was not a historical figure, a belief he reports he has held since the 1970s.

Following the publication of the book and revelations of his belief that Jesus did not exist, The Irish Sun reported in January 2013 that Brodie had been forced to quit his teaching job and banned from lecturing while his writings were being investigated. The final judgement of the Dominican Order on the matter was published in their periodical Doctrine and Life in May–June 2014:

Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus Official Dominican Response to a Controversial Book

In September 2012, Fr Thomas L. Brodie, O.P., of the Irish Province, published Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus. In this ‘Memoir of a Discovery’, the author, already well-respected for his commentaries on the Gospel of John and for his study, The Birthing of the New Testament, stated categorically that his studies proved that Jesus did not exist as a historical person. He had expected that reviewers or commentators would understand from his earlier works that this was the position he had held since the 1970s. But there had been no such recognition; and the time, he believed, had come to state his views bluntly.

Because this claim was so much at odds with Christian tradition, in November 2012, the Prior Provincial of Ireland, Fr Gregory Carroll, O.P., instructed that, while the controversy about the book was being addressed, Tom Brodie must withdraw from all ministry and from any teaching or writing, or contacting the media. Co-incidentally, at about the same time Tom Brodie resigned from being moderator and director of the Dominican Biblical Institute Limerick. This move was not because of the book but because, having already served three four-year terms in the post, he did not wish to enter on a fourth term (two terms in any post is the norm for Dominicans).

Also in November 2012, the Provincial implemented the Order’s own internal ‘Procedure for Controversies Arising from Public Statement of the Brothers’, part of the Order’s ‘General Plan for Studies’ (Ratio Studiorum Generalis). Under this Procedure, the Provincial set up a committee of five experts from within the Province to examine the work under dispute.

After providing Tom Brodie with written copies of their assessments of Beyond the Quest, and having received a written response from him, the committee spent a morning discussing the work with him. Following on these deliberations the committee advised that they judged Beyond the Quest to be ‘imprudent and dangerous’ (a phrase from the Order’s own legislation). Accepting this assessment, the Provincial continued the sanctions on Tom Brodie – that he withdraw fully from ministry and from all forms of teaching, writing, or making public statements.

In July 2013, the theology magazine, Doctrine & Life, from Dominican Publications, published assessments of Tom Brodie’s book, from the pens of four internationally recognised scholars – biblical specialists Seán Freyne, Jerome Murphy-O’Connor and Gerard Norton, and theologian Fergus Kerr. The editorial in that issue explained, ‘the Irish Dominicans have put in place the procedures in the Order’s legislation for handling cases of disputed teaching’ and that the process must remain confidential until it had concluded. By that time, the internal Dominican constitutional process had moved on from the level of the Irish Province.

On 17 May 2013, at the request of Tom Brodie, Fr Gregory Carroll, Prior Provincial, referred the matter to the Master of the Order, its worldwide head. This move was in line with the ‘Procedures for Controversies’ in the Order’s internal administrative structures.

On 29 August 2013, the Master, Fr Bruno Cadoré, appointed a committee to examine the book and report to him. This committee, made up of three professors from the University of Fribourg, Switzerland, had the Master’s Assistant for the Intellectual Life, Fr Michael Mascari, as non-voting chairman. The members of this committee provided the author with written assessments of Beyond the Quest, and received from him a written response.

On 20 February 2014, the committee had a two-hour meeting in Fribourg with Tom Brodie to discuss their reports and his response. Following this meeting the committee formally advised the Master that the publication was ‘imprudent and dangerous’, the standard set out in the legislation of the Order, and recommended that the sanctions imposed on Thomas Brodie by the Province of Ireland were appropriate.

In a letter dated 3 March 2014, Fr Bruno Cadoré concurred with the judgement of the committee and instructed that the sanctions already in place be maintained.

Despite the restrictions placed on him, Tom Brodie remains a brother of the Irish Province, and the Province continues to care for him and provide for him. From the point of view of the Order, the matter is closed.

So, basically, at the age of 71 years, Thomas L. Brodie has been condemned to live out the rest of his life in silence in exchange for retirement care. Or that's the way it appears.

See also: http://www.mythicistpapers.com/2013/03/21/thomas-brodie-pt-1/
 
And I'll bet his previous 'congregation' never had a bad word to say about him until all of a sudden he stood up and expressed his true feelings about his faith.

One thing that always amazes me is the number of Priests/Deacons/Pastors/Reverends etc that find their way through the church, even though they never fully endorsed the Christian doctrine from the start.

Good on him though.

I have a secret fantasy of turning on the TV one day to hear a speech from the Pope himself addressing the whole world and telling the listeners that their entire lives have been based around a fabrication which the church has held secret for 2000 yrs (or not so long as may of been the case).

I bet he'd be discredited before the adverts came on.
 
Amazing, but I suppose not surprising, that in response to his in-depth scholarly research showing evidence for a lack of historicity of Jesus, the Dominican hierarchy's counter argument is to call his evidence "imprudent and dangerous". Then again, while laconic in the extreme, maybe the Dominican leadership is being as honest as it can here.

It isn't very prudent, from the Dominican and Catholic Church POV, for anyone to point out that Jesus did not exist. It's also dangerous, from the POV of the sustainability of the Catholic Church as a viable religion, for that truth to be revealed to the world.

They can't refute his evidence that tears down the entire edifice of their belief system, so they say "shut up". Great.
 
This story brings to mind one of my favorite books, a fascinating book with an awful title: I Was A Monk by John Tettemer. Originally published in 1951, it is kept in print by Quest Books. Most of the book details his life as a monk. The best part, the last third, details his "awakening" which made it necessary to leave the church, at a time when he was being considered as a potential Cardinal. His awakening did not involve a refutation of the Historical Jesus, so much as it did his inability to reconcile certain arbitrary standards embraced by the church, foremost among these was the premise that healing done by a Catholic priest was god's work, but healing by a Protestant Priest was the work of the Devil. For anyone with an interest in Catholic monastic life, Catholic theology, and in the record of going in and out of a monastic vocation, this book is a great read. In reference to Thomas Brodie, the description of John Tettemer's appointment to discuss his lapsed faith with pre-eminent Catholics of his era is both very funny and tragic.
 
I found this:
http://www.spiralarrowpublications.com/i-was-a-monk/
He taught at the university level after leaving the Church. He also had small Hollywood rolls, one of which is in Lost Horizon.
 
This is really interesting. When I first read about it on Sott I thought to myself this is someone Laura would love to contact, then I saw the comment section.... ;D

Will have my eyes and ears peeled for any revelations. :)
 
stellar said:
This is really interesting. When I first read about it on Sott I thought to myself this is someone Laura would love to contact, then I saw the comment section.... ;D

Will have my eyes and ears peeled for any revelations. :)
Laura might try to contact him through his publisher, Sheffield Phoenix Press.
http://www.sheffieldphoenix.com/contact.asp
 
I'm presently in the middle of Brodie's "Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus," and am impressed by his sincerity and the content of his work. A worthy read imo.
 
Jerry said:
I'm presently in the middle of Brodie's "Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus," and am impressed by his sincerity and the content of his work. A worthy read imo.

I'm in the middle also of the same book and agree with his sincerity, along with the interesting path he has gone through. It is actually fascinating how he had these little kernels of information as far back as the seventies and worked on them, developing his thinking, moving on and then coming back to them. He speaks of rejection after rejection and learning how to refine his academic writing and deconstructing the "art" of the books form etc.
 
This thread looks a little stale, but I'm interested. Reading Carrier (rebuttal to Ehrman) and Doherty's book on Historicity, I was easily convinced that there was no human Jesus Christ. I'm a former Christian, but it didn't matter to me whether there was or wasn't a Jesus. I know a living Master (Charan Singh) so I know that masters always come. John 6:40 says you must "See" your master (be alive concurrently). I'll need to read Brodie. He must be a courageous man.
 
I am very interested in contacting Father Brodie or having him contact me.

My specific interest s in the area of religious faith in the face of the fact that, speaking objectively and with an appropriate degree of skepticism, the historicity of Jesus now is arguable at best -- based solely on the currently available evidence.

I wonder to what degree Brodie might have moved on or moved ahead with respect to his core religious beliefs. What does he think now? How might Christianity be brought up to date and made more consistent with the findings of open minded, clear-eyed researchers and thinkers (including believers)?

In light of Father Brodie's having been silenced by his order, I would vow to respect his privacy.

Note that I am respectful of the Roman Catholic tradition and that I am not seeking to disparage anyone or anything. Just trying to figure out as much as I can about the very early history, and the contemporary meaning, of the faith in which I was raised and educated.

I will travel to Ireland or elsewhere, from the US, if feasible and necessary.

Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

Al Cannistraro

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alcannistraro said:
I am very interested in contacting Father Brodie or having him contact me.

My specific interest s in the area of religious faith in the face of the fact that, speaking objectively and with an appropriate degree of skepticism, the historicity of Jesus now is arguable at best -- based solely on the currently available evidence.

I wonder to what degree Brodie might have moved on or moved ahead with respect to his core religious beliefs. What does he think now? How might Christianity be brought up to date and made more consistent with the findings of open minded, clear-eyed researchers and thinkers (including believers)?

In light of Father Brodie's having been silenced by his order, I would vow to respect his privacy.

Note that I am respectful of the Roman Catholic tradition and that I am not seeking to disparage anyone or anything. Just trying to figure out as much as I can about the very early history, and the contemporary meaning, of the faith in which I was raised and educated.

I will travel to Ireland or elsewhere, from the US, if feasible and necessary.

Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

Al Cannistraro

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Actually, seeing as this is your first post on the forum, we would appreciate it if you would post a brief intro about yourself in the Newbies section, telling us how you found this forum, how long you've been reading it and/or the SOTT page, whether or not you've read any of Laura's books yet, etc.

To your question about contacting Brodie, did you follow a bit this topic here? I think what griffin brought up, sounds like a good idea:

griffin said:
stellar said:
This is really interesting. When I first read about it on Sott I thought to myself this is someone Laura would love to contact, then I saw the comment section.... ;D

Will have my eyes and ears peeled for any revelations. :)
Laura might try to contact him through his publisher, Sheffield Phoenix Press.
http://www.sheffieldphoenix.com/contact.asp
 
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