Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

Pashalis

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Mod note: This new thread is split off from the 'Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election' thread, which covered events during the period from 8 November 2016 to 19 January 2017 when Trump was President-elect.

Our thread on the build-up (primaries and presidential election) to the 2016 US election can be found here: ['Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election']

This new thread you are reading deals with developments since Trump was inaugurated on 20 January 2017.


The inaguration starts in 11 minutes!

Here three live links:


https://youtu.be/UnEEOn7d8yI

https://www.rt.com/usa/374299-inauguration-special-coverage-ed-schultz/


https://youtu.be/aaZRQeDitlo
 

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Here is the transcript of Trump's speech:

Chief Justice Roberts, President Carter, President Clinton, President bush, President Obama, fellow Americans, and people of the world, thank you. We the citizens of America are now joined in a great national effort to rebuild our country and restore its promise for all of our people. Together we will determine the course of America, and the world, for many, many years to come. We will face challenges. We will confront hardships, but we will get the job done. Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent. Thank you.

Today's ceremony, however, has very special meaning, because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people. For too long, a small group in our nation's capitol has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left, and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs, and while they celebrated in our nation's capitol, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land.

That all changed starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment. It belongs to you. It belongs to everyone gathered here today, and everyone watching, all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration, and this, the United States of America, is your country.

What truly matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is controlled by the people. January 20th, 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again. The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. Everyone is listening to you now. You came by the tens of millions to become part of a historic movement, the likes of which the world has never seen before.

At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction, that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families, and good jobs for themselves. These are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public, but for too many of our citizens a different reality exists. Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge, and the crime, and the gangs, and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

We are one nation, and their pain is our pain. Their dreams are our dreams, and their success will be our success. We share one heart, one home, and one glorious destiny. The oath of office I take today is an oath of allegiance to all Americans. For many decades, we've enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry, subsidized the armies of other countries, while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military. We've defended other nations' borders while refusing to defend our own. And spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon. One by one, the factories shuddered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions and millions of American workers that were left behind. The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world, but that is the past, and now we are looking only to the future.

We are assembled here today issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power, from this day forward, a new vision will govern our land, from this day forward, it's going to be only America first. America first. Every decision on trade, on

taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength. I will fight for you with every breath in my body, and I will never, ever let you down. America will start winning again, winning like never before.We will bring back our jobs. We will bring back our borders.

We will bring back our wealth, and we will bring back our dreams. We will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels, and railways, all across our wonderful nation. We will get our people off of welfare and back to work, rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor. We will follow two simple rules -- buy American, and hire American.

We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put

their own interests first. We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example, we will shine for everyone to follow. We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones, and you night the civilized world against radical islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth. At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

The bible tells us, how good and pleasant it is when god's people live together in unity. We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. When America is united, America is totally unstoppable. There should be no fear. We are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement. And most importantly, we will be protected by god.

Finally, we must think big and dream even bigger. In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving. We will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action, constantly complaining but never doing anything about it.The time for empty talk is over. Now arrives the hour of action. Do not allow anyone to tell you that it cannot be done. No challenge can match the heart and fight and spirit of America.

We will not fail. Our country will thrive and prosper again. We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the Earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the ies industries and technologies of tomorrow. New national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions. It's time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget, that whether we are black, or brown, or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots. We all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American flag.

And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty creator. So to all Americans, in every city near and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, from ocean to ocean, hear these words. You will never be ignored again. Your voice, your hopes, and your dreams will define our American destiny, and your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

Together, we will make America strong again. We will make America wealthy again. We will make America proud when it. We will make America safe again, and yes, together we will make America great again. Thank you. God bless you. And god bless America. Thank you.


https://youtu.be/i3zOSHBo_kg
 
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[As I was writing this, I see the speech itself has been posted.]

As per David Brooks of the New York Times reporting for PBS, Trump's "striking" inaugural speech was very much a populist speech. Mark Shields, also speaking for PBS, speaks of Trump's message to those previously in power: "You are morally deficient, you prospered at the expense of the American people."

Some are calling it an angry speech, but he held the line he held all through the campaign. The victories of those in power -- the Washington insiders -- have not been victories for most Americans, says Trump. To the "left" who are still complaining that Trump was not "inclusive" in this speech, he claimed to speak to all Americans.. "black, brown and white," he said.

He spoke of the American landscape -- its "tombs" of decaying factories. He spoke of destroying Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

But, again and again, he spoke of this political victory as a victory for the people of the United States. It will not be business as usual. "Buy American, hire American," he said. Manufacturing, infrastructure -- also, the protectionism he speaks of is not just in terms of building the wall (which as I recall got no mention at all) but in terms of something more far reaching than that. There was a paternalistic sense to this speech. He will not let Americans down. He was putting himself personally on the line.

Pundits are talking about the last poll taken in which Trump got only 40% support among the populace. Do they realize that those in support of Trump don't trust those figures? No. Apparently not. The argument is even being made that with polling figures being so low one would expect Trump to be far more "inclusive." So, this manner of rhetoric will of course continue no matter what kind of presidency this turns out to be.
 

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Ellipse said:
Anti Trump demonstration was so big! :rolleyes:
I can't say I was impressed either, just shows that Soros doesn't has what it takes to implement a US color revolution. They don't have the numbers. Or do they?


Allthough, not all protests of today where misplaced, like this one before the American embassy in Moscow, bidding their farewell to Obama :

 
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However, as per Getty Images (below), it seems there was a paltry crowd for Trump's inauguration as opposed to Obama's in 2009.

I wonder if it's that with Trump there is a sobering reality being confirmed as opposed to Obama's staged optimism.
 

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It seems Soros paid "protesters" Maidan style tried to heat up the tention. A textbook case of agent provocateurs. See here:

https://www.facebook.com/FilmingCops/videos/1295182243850201/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

It seems they wanted another Maidan, but I think it will fail miserably.
 

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I wonder if those crowd pictures of the inaugurations were taken at varying time? We watched the inauguration on RT and they panned over that scene a time or two and it sure looked way more crowded than that picture shows.
 

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bjorn said:
Ellipse said:
Anti Trump demonstration was so big! :rolleyes:
I can't say I was impressed either, just shows that Soros doesn't has what it takes to implement a US color revolution. They don't have the numbers. Or do they?
Sort of like the Hillary polls before the election. Were shown to be overblown and not reflect reality. On the news this morning, a lot was made of the so called A listers of the entertainment and movie industry who stayed away. And I thought, so I should care about that? Is better that they did stay away, as they have no relevance to anything outside of their acting or singing or whatever. They are only pawns of their paymasters. The panelists on our local news really didn't have much negative to say afterward. Which kind of shocked me, because these are the same people that have been spewing vitriol in the time leading up to this. I am sure many new twists and turns ahead.
 

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Laura said:
I wonder if those crowd pictures of the inaugurations were taken at varying time? We watched the inauguration on RT and they panned over that scene a time or two and it sure looked way more crowded than that picture shows.
I also watched the whole of it and there were many more people. I shared the info on Twitter, and I was not the only one claiming those pics were not taken at the same moment. What I have seen today was close to 2008.
 

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Good Morning! I've only watched the news briefly this morning but it seems the "riots" where a dud! Reading the transcript of Trumps speech here, it is light filled and heart felt for me.

goyacobol said:
SummerLite said:
In the "Session 10, December 20" thread, piliangie posted (thanks) this which shed light on the rather insane, anti-Trump phenomenon I've mentioned here and has had me so curious.


BERNHARD GUENTHER JANUARY 17, 2017

<snip>

“At every turn, the synthetic culture of Empire implores us to throw our hearts and minds into unconscious polarization. It wants us to radicalize ourselves to either patriot or terrorist, believer or atheist, white or black, liberal or conservative, strong or weak, and then embark on an endless crusade to reform, condemn, or destroy the other side. This one-way polarization renders all participants impotent, regardless of which side they pick. This subtle but devastating trick deactivates our will and we automatically forfeit our capacity to rule ourselves. Lost in unconscious polarization, we serve Empire.

Mass culture is a control mechanism that devalues the individual. It is aimed solely at promoting collectivism. It seeks to enforce the dependence of the individual human on a collective group and the priority of group ideologies over individual life paths. It is, at the base level, the very heart of socialism, communism, fascism and totalitarianism. It employs nationalistic impulses to setup polarities of antagonism that exclusively benefits a set of ruling elites. At the top level, the elites fully comprehend that there are no distinct nations, ideologies or cultural imperatives to speak of. To them, there is only power and no power.”
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Sri Aurobindo

“[Look] at what happened in 1914 – or for that matter at all that is and has been happening in human history – the eye of the Yogin sees not only the outward events and persons and causes, but the enormous forces which precipitate them into action. If the men who fought were instruments in the hands of rulers and financiers, these in turn were mere puppets in the clutch of those hidden [hyperdimensional] forces.

When one is habituated to see the things behind, one is no longer prone to be touched by the outward aspects – or to expect any remedy from political, institutional or social changes; the only way out is through the descent of an [embodied] consciousness which is not the puppet of these forces but is greater than they are.”
SummerLite,

I think this is this gives us a lot to think about. It is kind of what I am seeing in this whole "show". No wonder the Cs say there are too many "variables". We are variables and 4DSTS are thrown into the formula as well.

It reminds me of America's image for many years now as The Ugly American.



So far I would not be surprised if they don't provoke Russia to the point of reaction by a false flag or give them no way not to react. But there is also the extreme Islamists card too. It is probably wiser to sit back and watch the show.
Goyacobol, this really was great food for thought for me. We need to look under the surface if we want to know whats going on and the battle is within our minds. Talk is cheap. Its easiest to believe the lies we tell ourselves, believe in the illusions we have about, what "good" people we are all the while pointing the finger and saying "the other is bad". This is the bedrock of the Matrix control system. Now we see so many of these "good" people, liberals, peace keepers etc., all those who speak of tolerance and such, being run by this program, gushing out their life energy to feed the dark side. In extreme cases, those that have become emotionally unhinged, one can see how unconscious they are.

I read the book "The Ugly American" ages ago, dont recall seeing the movie, but there it is, the program running. A Big lie, fed to the US people for so long is, "they hate us because we are so good" :shock:.

Its very ironic, to see the liberals being run in this way, who would have thought, not me. The face they show the world has been very convincing but all along, they haven't been doing their inner, shadow work. In another situation, it would be the conservatives being used, of course. There is that artificial divide again.

So hopefully more people will come to their senses and this protest will start to fizzle. Trump is in and the attraction to be outraged will die down as people return their attention back to whatever they're distracted by. Then again, some other outrage, will probably happen and of a different sort. A world event of some kind.

Yea, we dont want to get pulled into this divide scenario, best to seat back and watch the show. Contribute in truly, productive ways.
 

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Heather said:
However, as per Getty Images (below), it seems there was a paltry crowd for Trump's inauguration as opposed to Obama's in 2009.

I wonder if it's that with Trump there is a sobering reality being confirmed as opposed to Obama's staged optimism.
Maybe it was taken before or afterwards, when people came or left? Right now I cannot find any pictures from 2017, maybe in the next hours some more actual pictures are released.
 

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The inauguration of Donald Trump

Trump is sworn in as president, a divisive, singular figure promising to lift up 'the forgotten'
_http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-inauguration-20170120-story.html
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In a speech that had the overtones of his divisive campaign rhetoric, he spoke as well of giving power from politicians back to their constituents.

“We are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people,” he said. “… The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.”

He made history on many levels Friday. At 70, he is the oldest president to begin a first term. The brash business mogul also became the only commander in chief to enter the White House with neither government nor military service. And while his predecessors included a screen actor and several war heroes, none became international celebrities in the era of reality television.

The gut-check moments along Trump’s journey — winning his first primary, the Republican nomination and the election itself — have not mellowed his disdain for tradition. His refusal to conform to political norms helped him attract millions of voters who felt disconnected from coastal power centers and eager to see a leader unafraid of offending people. Trump referred again to those voters, “the forgotten man and the forgotten woman,” as he thanked supporters during a celebration concert Thursday night overlooking the Washington Monument.

His unconventional qualities, and a promise to bring back jobs lost to outsourcing and automation, helped Trump compile a historic electoral upset in which he defeated 16 primary opponents and trampled both the Bush and Clinton family political dynasties.





















Carolyn Cole / Los Angeles Times
_http://www.latimes.com/?utm_source=Politics&utm_campaign=c7107d9705-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_01_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_db59b9bd47-c7107d9705-79962557
 

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Gawan said:
Heather said:
However, as per Getty Images (below), it seems there was a paltry crowd for Trump's inauguration as opposed to Obama's in 2009.

I wonder if it's that with Trump there is a sobering reality being confirmed as opposed to Obama's staged optimism.
Maybe it was taken before or afterwards, when people came or left? Right now I cannot find any pictures from 2017, maybe in the next hours some more actual pictures are released.
Well it was rainy in DC today - not so when Obama was inaugurated. Plus plenty of nutcases were there causing trouble, some of what I've seen in news on and live TV about that is appalling. Aside from that stuff, given how bad the economy has become over the past 8 years alone how many could actually afford the big expenses to go to DC this year?

Anyway, Paul Joseph Watson posted a pic on his FB page:

__https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.71/posts/10154919394916171
 

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This interesting, SOTT site seem to be under attack right now.
 
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