USA heading for Destruction

[Robert Fordisto]

On September 3, 2008 the Cassiopaeans said the following:


A: USA heading for destruction!

Q: (L) Hello. Can we say hello first?

A: Hello

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Yeaionnia of Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Do you transmit through Cassiopaea?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. Why do you introduce tonight's adventures with "US is headed for destruction"?

A: Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome.


I wonder what event or series of events set the fate of the United States to what until then was only a probable reality. It would be very interesting to ask the C which was the definitive event that tipped the scales in favor of the destruction of USA.

 

[Mike]

I think prior to asking the C's we can come up with some possible answers by looking at what was happening at the time of the session. Two things really stick out as possibilities that could stand alone or be connected. The first is the 2008 Election where Obama was ramping up for a win with his Hope and Change propaganda and we have seen how Obama has turned out. The other major event is related to the decisions being made in terms of the 2008 Financial crisis that came to a head in Oct of 2008. The decisions were made to bailout the banks and other entities instead of nationalizing them, arresting bankers, etc as what took place in Iceland. The financial crisis also swung the election in Obama's favor even though it is hard to see McCain as being much better.

 

[Robert Fordisto]

Thank you very much for your reply Bear.
Certainly those are facts that may be related to the C's comment but these belong to the field of the known. What about the unknown?

 

[Mike]

Thank you very much for your reply Bear.
Certainly those are facts that may be related to the C's comment but these belong to the field of the known. What about the unknown?

That's the thing at the time they were not known, but by looking back and seeing what we now know we might be able to piece it together or at least become educated on the subject to the best of our ability prior to even considering asking the C's. My thoughts are we would need to get to work trying to see it. Like what has been mentioned on numerous occasions about the C's experiment. That it is 10% inspiration and 90% work and gathering knowledge. Just asking without putting in the work doesn't seem the way to go about it. And asking Laura and the crew to do it prior to asking the C's without effort by the person asking won't be of benefit for the person asking and put the work part on them. So do you have any ideas on what they might the C's might be referring to?

 

[griffin]

This is all conjecture, but let's start with the statement itself: "USA is heading for destruction."

The key word there, of course, is "destruction". That's not "decline", "defeat", or "decadence". It's very specific. We can think about what the word "destruction" means, or might mean, within the context of our superluminally channeled higher dimensional advisors.

First, it seems obvious that this statement doesn't refer to physical destruction caused by inexorable asteroid or cometary bombardment. That's the good news.

The context seems to imply geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction, based upon the subsequent comment, "Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome." That's the bad news.

Since the election of McCain would have installed an outright explicit warmonger as US President, one has to discount the theory that Obama's looming victory in itself might have prompted such a conclusion, in terms of foreseeing world war III.

Instead, I'd suggest we turn our attention to the other major event that happened around that time, as has been suggested: the Wall Street crash of 2008 and the US establishment's response that unfolded in those following weeks and months.

 

[anart]

This is all conjecture, but let's start with the statement itself: "USA is heading for destruction."

The key word there, of course, is "destruction". That's not "decline", "defeat", or "decadence". It's very specific. We can think about what the word "destruction" means, or might mean, within the context of our superluminally channeled higher dimensional advisors.

First, it seems obvious that this statement doesn't refer to physical destruction caused by inexorable asteroid or cometary bombardment. That's the good news.

How did you come to this conclusion?

The context seems to imply geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction, based upon the subsequent comment, "Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome." That's the bad news.

Again, not sure how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be limiting possibilities with these assumptions.

 

[Renaissance]

Since the election of McCain would have installed an outright explicit warmonger as US President, one has to discount the theory that Obama's looming victory in itself might have prompted such a conclusion, in terms of foreseeing world war III.

Obama has extended two existing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and started wars in Pakistan, Syria, Yemen and Somalia. And is now gunning for Iran. As far as I know, that would make him the biggest war mongering president the US has ever had and he has almost complete support for these wars by the American people.

 

[seek10]

On September 3, 2008 the Cassiopaeans said the following:


A: USA heading for destruction!

A: Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome.


I wonder what event or series of events set the fate of the United States to what until then was only a probable reality. It would be very interesting to ask the C which was the definitive event that tipped the scales in favor of the destruction of USA.

From C's understanding to our Understanding of REALITY ( past, present, possible future ) based on the laura's question in her mind at that time, there are million layers in between. So Trying to understand is not easy task by any means.

In any case, presidents are dummies pretty much controlled by players behind -Bankers, Electioneers, financial supporters, end less MIC's, Intelligence agencies and their 4D Masters with time travel capabilities. Add to that Hypothesised Wave, coming comets, Living Entity called planet its own different density critters (1D to 4D), Planet's future w.r.t coming Wave and comets etc.

Trying to understand this is very complicated IMHO.
I look at this way. When our gut bacteria and bacteria on our skin becoming like Virus, we know, we have some serious issue and knowledgeable doctor can diagnose, when the threshold is reached beyond repair under the conditions the person is living.

 

[Shinzenbi]

It appears that the only "tool" left of the US to dominate the world is its army. Economically/financially speaking, it has been defeated and can no longer challenge the Russia-China block, nor the emerging south american one. The dollar as a currency seems to be kept alive only thanks to the petrodollars. We know that one the US goals is to prevent an eurasian power from emerging (China is a growing economic power, Russia is a big big military power, has got natural ressources... and these 2 countries are currently forming a block). US is factually declining at an alarming rate. What is the solution? Total destruction rather than blatant collapse? It would make sense for its elite to go to war with Iran and trigger WW3 to hide the inside collapse, like a chess player kicking the chessboard so as not to concede loss. This would be done in the name of freedom and supporting civilized world against the savage one, exactly what the advertisement in the NY subway says.
At this point I have to mention the underlying Israeli plan to take advantage of a war between the "Empire" (US, Europe, Turkey, Saoudi Arabia...) and the "reluctant countries" (Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, south american ones...) and achieve the "Grand Israel" project, spreading from the Nile to the Euphrate rivers. This project that will be realised on the blood of the small Israeli people, but no matter for their mad leaders. The power of the zionist lobby in the US doesn't have to be demonstrated.

So basically, I would say that there is little hope for an outcome other than destruction, be it inside the US or all over the world initiated by the US, or both.

This sounds grim :(... the solution I see is the reaction of the world peoples, that can be pacific only with sufficient awareness and knowledge of the forces behind the curtains. With mainstream media promoting hate towards the muslims and presenting the true criminals as victims, I'm not optimist.

 

[Joe]

First, it seems obvious that this statement doesn't refer to physical destruction caused by inexorable asteroid or cometary bombardment. That's the good news.
The context seems to imply geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction, based upon the subsequent comment, "Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome." That's the bad news.

You're not considering the possibility that the two could be linked. The state of affairs within the geopolitical/social scene could be a causal factor in the cosmic destruction.

 

[Alada]

Trying to understand this is very complicated IMHO.

I look at this way. When our gut bacteria and bacteria on our skin becoming like Virus, we know, we have some serious issue and knowledgeable doctor can diagnose, when the threshold is reached beyond repair under the conditions the person is living.

I agree, it’s a complex system, many factors interwoven and not so simple as to pin down two this or that specific event. The example above works well as a comparison, the problems have become systemic.

From the influence of a pathological ruling elite and their ‘special interests’, their funding and lobbying of puppet politicians that drive policies, through to fundamental ‘religious’ lunatics, right wing gun toting survivalist nut jobs, the authoritarian followers that lap it all up and cheer the growing madness and slaughter to the folk at the bottom who are made zombies by popular culture, suffer in poverty while the super-rich get ever richer, or go plain crazy – mass gun attacks, human flesh eating episodes and on and on. How to pick one or two black and white examples that are the turning point in all of that?

 

[Mountain Crown]

A: Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome.

This reminds me of Lobaczewski stating that a complete pathocracy will ultimately destroy itself.

It's clear that the American people aren't able to change it's pathocratic rulers - the majority can't even see it.

 

[Graalsword]

A: Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome.

This reminds me of Lobaczewski stating that a complete pathocracy will ultimately destroy itself.

It's clear that the American people aren't able to change it's pathocratic rulers - the majority can't even see it.

I think that is possibly the clue about this issue. The fact that most Americans seem to have reached a point where they can't see the mess they are in, and probably most people it is already in an advanced state of desintegration where they won't be able to wake up and revert the process for this cycle, I mean reverting the direction of USA government and its decisions. This happens through all over the world, but it seems to be much deeper in the USA.

 

[griffin]

This is all conjecture, but let's start with the statement itself: "USA heading for destruction."

The key word there, of course, is "destruction". That's not "decline", "defeat", or "decadence". It's very specific. We can think about what the word "destruction" means, or might mean, within the context of our superluminally channeled higher dimensional advisors.

First, it seems obvious that this statement doesn't refer to physical destruction caused by inexorable asteroid or cometary bombardment. That's the good news.

How did you come to this conclusion?

That's based upon an underlying assumption that the dynamics of asteroids and comets in the solar system are purely natural, physical processes not directed or influenced by intelligent actors. If that's not the case, then we can return cosmic bombardment to the set of possibilities, but directed by some higher intelligence.

The implications of "USA heading for destruction" are that (a) the USA has gone too far wrong to possibly recover from a self-inflicted chain of events ending with total catastrophe, or (b) the USA has so irretrievably offended, or attracted, some higher beings that they're going to see to its destruction either as punishment or entertainment, or perhaps both. If (b) is the case and the posited higher beings can throw asteroids and comets with enough accuracy to destroy the USA, then cosmic bombardment is back on the table among the possible causes of destruction.

The context seems to imply geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction, based upon the subsequent comment, "Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome." That's the bad news.

Again, not sure how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be limiting possibilities with these assumptions.

Again, if we assume cosmic bombardment is excluded, then that leaves ordinary causes of destruction. I just reclassified the old classical categories of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Pestilence, War, Famine and Death) into the more modern categories of geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction. (In the classical list Death seems redundant, so I'd replace it with either Usurious Interest or just Private Banking.) Of course geopolitical destruction includes nuclear war, but also disastrous conventional war, with loss of access to energy resources. In a similar way, economic and social destruction include, for the USA, loss of reserve currency status, possible hyperinflation, deep economic depression, famine, riots, martial law, breakdown of transportation and social order, outbreaks of disease epidemics, and so on. Basically, anything from the breakup of the USA into regional nations through devolution into individual states, down to Mad Max anarchy.

 

[Deleted member 8431]

How did you come to this conclusion?

That's based upon an underlying assumption that the dynamics of asteroids and comets in the solar system are purely natural, physical processes not directed or influenced by intelligent actors. If that's not the case, then we can return cosmic bombardment to the set of possibilities, but directed by some higher intelligence.

Again, what about if both are linked? Should we not consider it a possibility? Why would it absolutely have to be "directed by some higher intelligence" if it was the case? What about us? Aren't we part of this universe?

How do you view the role of consciousness within ourselves and the whole universe?

Again, not sure how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be limiting possibilities with these assumptions.

Again, if we assume cosmic bombardment is excluded, then that leaves ordinary causes of destruction. I just reclassified the old classical categories of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Pestilence, War, Famine and Death) into the more modern categories of geopolitical and/or economic and social destruction.[/quote]

What about if cometary showers could provoke those "ordinary causes of destruction"? Or more like; worsen them?

Just a question, have you started to read the Wave series? It contains a lot of information about all this. You might enjoy it.

Peace.