What is "feminine energy"?

[Aithin Tusa Fein]

I have a question that I would like to ask, but I would like to state a few things first so that what I ask may not be taken in the wrong way. I also hope this is the right place to post this topic.

First, I apologize for not contributing to conversations on this forum. I am generally busy, and topics posted on this forum tend to generate enormous volumes of responses which I find to be overwhelming in my limited time to read them. Although I find them interesting and intriguing, I seem to process and reflect on things rather slowly. Therefore, by the time I am ready to post a comment, I discover that someone else has already posted that which I was about to write. I also find this medium of communication awkward. I prefer to communicate by talking and smoking a cigarette. I even refuse to text, except when it is more expedient to give and receive information, that is, I don’t chat by texting.

Second, if this topic has already been discussed elsewhere, please understand that I am unaware of it.

Third, if anyone finds my questions offensive in any way, understand that that is not my intention. I have pondered this question for awhile and I cannot find anyone who can answer it, or more precisely, give a definition to that which I sense, but cannot explain.

That said, here is my question. What is the “feminine energy”?

In the articles Witches, Comets and Planetary Cataclysms, and
The Golden Age, Psychopathy and the Sixth Extinction, by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, she writes concerning “how the feminine energy of our society was debased step-by-step over millennia”.

Although I somewhat intuit what I think she means by “feminine energy”, I do not know what it is in an objective sense. I know that feminine in a basic sense means qualities commonly associated with women. But, what is it?

I intuit that it has an essence or source in a realm above third density. Like the light that cast the shadows on the wall in Plato’s Allegory of the cave. I suppose one could list many things that have feminine energy, but what is it itself?

I suppose what I think is being referred to is a perspective of the world view in which reality is seen as unifying in the sense of an offspring to its mother--a child is born from its mother and is therefore of its mother.

I concluded this from a passage in The Golden Age article, which states: “The implicit message in the image of the goddess is a vision of all life as a living Unity. The feminine image is like a lens that focuses our perception of the universe as a sacred whole, alive and giving, and we on earth are the children of the Cosmos.”

 

[Avi]

I find that to be an excellent question and look forward to discussion.

It is late here just now however so I will not be writing much tonight.

The topic is vast, as far as I see.

We can keep it very simple and straight down the line, or we can discuss it from a number of examples and add a great deal of rich variety. I am sure there will be rich and varied responses too.

Again, truly great question.

And welcome to the forum.

 

[John G]

I suppose what I think is being referred to is a perspective of the world view in which reality is seen as unifying in the sense of an offspring to its mother--a child is born from its mother and is therefore of its mother.

I concluded this from a passage in The Golden Age article, which states: “The implicit message in the image of the goddess is a vision of all life as a living Unity. The feminine image is like a lens that focuses our perception of the universe as a sacred whole, alive and giving, and we on earth are the children of the Cosmos.”

I think there's a description where the cosmos at its center has the femine giving/birthing aspect (service to others) and also the male taking into one's self aspect (service to self). The service to self aspect, if you stay on that path would at some point get recycled back to primordial matter (1st density) for a retry.

 

[Aithin Tusa Fein]

I think there's a description where the cosmos at its center has the femine giving/birthing aspect (service to others) and also the male taking into one's self aspect (service to self). The service to self aspect, if you stay on that path would at some point get recycled back to primordial matter (1st density) for a retry.

I can see the relationship between service to others as being a feminine aspect. A mother gives life to her young and nourishes it through pregnancy, then gives birth and gives it food through her milk and cares for it. But, if the male aspect is taking into ones self, or, service to self, how is that relationship articulated?

 

[Psalehesost]

I think there's a description where the cosmos at its center has the femine giving/birthing aspect (service to others) and also the male taking into one's self aspect (service to self). The service to self aspect, if you stay on that path would at some point get recycled back to primordial matter (1st density) for a retry.

I think that service to others and service to self both can be described in feminine as well as masculine terms. And observing the dynamics in this world, you see both self-serving and other-serving aspects expressed in both masculine and feminine ways.

Or in short, there is the creative feminine and/or the creative masculine, as well as the "dark feminine" and/or the "dark masculine".

The STS aspect of All/Creator, the thought center of Non-being, which seeks to swallow up creation, could also be symbolized according to the archetype of the "Terrible Mother", who devours her children. As such, both aspects of the All (positive/negative) could be symbolized as feminine; and both could likewise be symbolized as masculine.

Masculinity and femininity as such seems to be confined to lower densities.

A: In your density, masculinism/feminish is essentially a roll of "the dice." Remember, at higher levels gender is nonexistent.

When we use these in metaphysical descriptions, I think we are merely allocating symbols from our mode of existence to illustrate "higher" realities. This can work well. And can be done in a variety of ways.

In many ancient systems, the "soul" or animator is male/penetrating and the matter/mater, that which exists in a state of receptivity, is feminine.

Both varieties of description, centered on the feminine or centered on the masculine, could be expressed in a genuine, creative way - or could be ponerized (courtesy of psychopathology and the directions of 4D STS), as in the examples of our monotheistic religions.

I can see the relationship between service to others as being a feminine aspect. A mother gives life to her young and nourishes it through pregnancy, then gives birth and gives it food through her milk and cares for it. But, if the male aspect is taking into ones self, or, service to self, how is that relationship articulated?

If symbolized as male, it could for example be given as a Slaying aspect.

 

[Joe]

I think there's a description where the cosmos at its center has the femine giving/birthing aspect (service to others) and also the male taking into one's self aspect (service to self). The service to self aspect, if you stay on that path would at some point get recycled back to primordial matter (1st density) for a retry.

I can see the relationship between service to others as being a feminine aspect. A mother gives life to her young and nourishes it through pregnancy, then gives birth and gives it food through her milk and cares for it. But, if the male aspect is taking into ones self, or, service to self, how is that relationship articulated?

I don't think we can say that female energy is STO and male energy is STS. Rather, female energy is "passive" while male is "active". Both can be STS or STO inclined. In answer to your first question, feminine energy is creative energy in its perhaps purest form, as manifested in this density.

 

[Mountain Crown]

It has been observed that in the cosmos the creative expresses itself as a polarity, a dynamic interplay of two "qualities" which has been given names such as masculine/feminine, positive/negative, heaven/earth, expansion/condensation, etc.; always in perfect balance, this dynamic results in the manifestation of all that exists.

The feminine energy may be regarded as that quality which is nurturing the active forces to produce substance. Without it there would be a tendency toward disorder, no fulfillment, excessive rationalization/abstraction, impulsiveness, disease.

It may be simplistic to generalize STS as masculine and STO as feminine. It's my understanding that there is nurturing of others in STS, only the purpose is for self serving ends and ultimately consumption. There's both giving and receiving in STO and self service through serving others results in expansion for all. Expansion is regarded as a masculine attribute.

edited for clarification.

 

[ana]

Here, we also find the feminine symbolism applied to the ever expanding creative side of "God":

Organic Portals - The "Other" Race. Part II

The special function of the sexual centre in souled beings is explained further by the C's:

Q: Does the recharging of the souled being come from a similar pool, only maybe the "human" pool?
A: No - it recharges from the so-called sexual center which is a higher center of creative energy. During sleep, the emotional center, not being blocked by the lower intellectual center and the moving center, transduces the energy from the sexual center. It is also the time during which the higher emotional and intellectual centers can rest from the "drain" of the lower centers' interaction with those pesky organic portals so much loved by the lower centers. This respite alone is sufficient to make a difference. But, more than that, the energy of the sexual center is also more available to the other higher centers.
Q: From where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love." The "outbreath" of "God" in the relief of constriction. Pulsation. Unstable Gravity Waves.

True creativity comes from this connection with "7th density in its 'feminine' creative thought of 'Thou, I Love'" in its conjugation with the higher emotional and intellectual centers. Thus the souled individual is able to "create" in the sense of manifesting something new through his or her thought and the connection to 7th Density. This is a profound process for it ties us directly to the "Creator", to the One.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Q: From where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love." The "outbreath" of "God" in the relief of constriction. Pulsation. Unstable Gravity Waves.

True creativity comes from this connection with "7th density in its 'feminine' creative thought of 'Thou, I Love'" in its conjugation with the higher emotional and intellectual centers. Thus the souled individual is able to "create" in the sense of manifesting something new through his or her thought and the connection to 7th Density. This is a profound process for it ties us directly to the "Creator", to the One.

Yes, Ana. This quote is a beautiful illustration of balance.

 

[Mr.Anderson]

Q: From where does the so-called "sexual center" get ITS energy?
A: The sexual center is in direct contact with 7th density in its "feminine" creative thought of "Thou, I Love." The "outbreath" of "God" in the relief of constriction. Pulsation. Unstable Gravity Waves.

True creativity comes from this connection with "7th density in its 'feminine' creative thought of 'Thou, I Love'" in its conjugation with the higher emotional and intellectual centers. Thus the souled individual is able to "create" in the sense of manifesting something new through his or her thought and the connection to 7th Density. This is a profound process for it ties us directly to the "Creator", to the One.

Yes, Ana. This quote is a beautiful illustration of balance.

I think this is why Gurdjieff says that TRUE sexual energy is rare.

 

[John G]

For me the female-male analogy seems to be getting used differently in different places:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,7336.msg51994.html#msg51994

What I am trying to get at here, what I am trying to understand, is the transition from the goddess worship to the god worship; the change from the understanding of cyclical time as expressed in the feminine cycles, and expressed as the goddess; to the concept of linear time, expressed as the masculine principle. It seems to me that these were stages of inversion of concepts which gradually led to the ideas that the Lizzies are imposing on us, and seem to have been working in this direction for millennia - the dominator experience which expresses as: believe in something outside yourself that will save you, otherwise you are damned because the world is gonna end, and you are going to get judged.

Black Holes are a natural force reflection of Free Will consciousness pattern of STS. Notice that Black Holes are located at center of spiral energy forces, all else radiates outward.

In the Active - Passive law of three sense, I guess male - female is being used to describe how one goes through the cycle (it could be either STO enlightenment or STS enlightenment).

 

[Aithin Tusa Fein]

Thank you all for your replies, they have been most helpful. I am trying to process and reflect on all of the input and it seems that I must reflect on the beginning of my confusion.

In trying to understand what feminine energy is, I need to reflect upon the source of my confusion, which is, that I intuit, or, I sense that it is a universal principal, one that exists not only in the manifestations, or representations on this plane of existence, but throughout all planes of existence.

Let me explain, I know that numbers exist, although, I have never seen them. I have seen them represented as glyphs on a page, or represented through other objects, but I have never seen them, themselves. Still, I know that they exist. I know the quality of one, two, three and so on. I know the truth in their being and in their equations and operations. In fact, I do not need any manifestations, or representations to know them in the mind alone.

As I reason with myself, I propose that if feminine energy exist, it must be a universal principal, and it must be one which can be known through the mind in the same way as numbers.

Having thought this way, I propose an argument in order to discover if the feminine energy can be known through the mind alone.

I will start with the mind itself. I will clear my thoughts and perceive the mind. As I do this exercise, I clear my thoughts and blank my mind. As I do, I perceive the mind itself and my existence with in it. I am not sure if I am the mind, or that I exist within the mind separate from me. Both perspectives seem to be accurate when testing them.

When I perceive that I am the mind itself, I do not detect any rough edges of the mind, that is, I do not detect any corners. It seems to have no form, or boundaries, but the closest thing to a form would be the encapsulating impression that I have while perceiving that I am the mind itself. It is as if I somehow exist as a hollow orb encapsulating the hollow nothingness of a blank mind.

I admit that I must continually repeat this process to get the impressions of a blank mind, because I have great difficulty in preventing my mind from entertaining thoughts.

When I perceive myself as existing within the mind, the mind seems to be in some way encapsulating me and I get the impression of being encapsulated in a limitless orb of some sort.

I admit, in this exercise and analogy, the mind is like a womb. It seems as if the mind is the very substance of thought itself. In this regard, I can definitely see the feminine aspect as a universal principal that can be perceived with the mind alone, that is, it is the mind itself.

But what about thought? When I try to quiet my mind and perceive the mind itself, I am constantly trying to clear the mind of penetrating thoughts. I definitely perceive thoughts themselves to be of a different quality than the mind itself, but yet of the same substance of the mind.

Could it be that thoughts are like the child of the mind? If one nourishes a thought, doesn’t it take form? Doesn’t it grow, being nourished from the mind itself?

And, what of the thought’s origin? What penetrated the mind and impregnated it with the thought that is being nourished and is growing and taking form? Could this be the male principal?

Does this analogy explain the universal feminine principal which is known through the mind alone, the same way as numbers?

Does it explain the male principle in the same way?

This is an interesting discovery of sorts. I have to admit that I actually got goose-flesh when I made the realization. This seems to be an interesting analogy to work with and I’m sure that I have erred somewhere in my reasoning. Perhaps someone else could evaluate it and offer some valuable insight.

 

[John G]

When I perceive that I am the mind itself, I do not detect any rough edges of the mind, that is, I do not detect any corners. It seems to have no form, or boundaries, but the closest thing to a form would be the encapsulating impression that I have while perceiving that I am the mind itself. It is as if I somehow exist as a hollow orb encapsulating the hollow nothingness of a blank mind.

When I perceive myself as existing within the mind, the mind seems to be in some way encapsulating me and I get the impression of being encapsulated in a limitless orb of some sort.

What you are describing reminds me of the Buddhist meditation experience where if you meditate outwards you get to the same place as when you meditate inwards.

http://tap3x.net/EMBTI/j6structures.html

When we zoom in extremely closely and inspect the 'emptiness' at the center, or zoom out an extreme distance away from the object and the donut seems to disappear and we have only empty space - this is like certain 'objectless' states of awareness that can occur in meditation. But the final goal is not to achieve the undifferentiated state itself; it is to come to the special perspective that allows us to continue to see all three aspects at once - the donut, the whole in the middle, and the space surrounding it - this is like the 'enlightened' state, in this analogy. 10 The innermost and outermost psychological 'space' (which is here a metaphor for 'concentrated attention' and 'diffused attention') are recognized as indeed the same, continuous.

By 'dilating' and 'expanding' the scope of our attention we not only discover that 'form is emptiness' (the donut has a hole), but also that 'emptiness is form' (objects precipitate out of the larger 'space') - to use Buddhist terminology. The emptiness that we arrive at by narrowing our focus on the innermost is identical to the emptiness that we arrive at by expanding our focus to the outermost. The 'infinitely large' is identical to the 'infinitesimally small'.

This torus-like structure could certainly be related to the structure of reality.

 

[Avi]

I think there's a description where the cosmos at its center has the femine giving/birthing aspect (service to others) and also the male taking into one's self aspect (service to self). The service to self aspect, if you stay on that path would at some point get recycled back to primordial matter (1st density) for a retry.

I can see the relationship between service to others as being a feminine aspect. A mother gives life to her young and nourishes it through pregnancy, then gives birth and gives it food through her milk and cares for it. But, if the male aspect is taking into ones self, or, service to self, how is that relationship articulated?

I don't think we can say that female energy is STO and male energy is STS. Rather, female energy is "passive" while male is "active". Both can be STS or STO inclined. In answer to your first question, feminine energy is creative energy in its perhaps purest form, as manifested in this density.

I agree and would add that the terms male and female appear relative to one another. In other words, if we are talking energy, that is one thing, and that which the question outlined. But if we are talking awareness, then the "active" and "passive" or "male" and "female" is relative to one another depending on context.

The terms man and woman implies gender whereas the terms male and female, at least as I am using them, refer to states of awareness.

Here on the physical plane, we can operate from either male or female awareness, which is reflected basically in our gender, but in the context of life we may be "female" or "receptive" to another, say a work relationship where a man has a boss that is a woman, in which the man is "female" in relation to the boss.

That is what I mean by relative.

The other way around, the woman who is a boss with subordinates, is "male" relative to those who support her.

Male awareness is positive in relation to female, another way to say "active" and "passive". Or the cause being positive in relation to the effect. This is reflected in conception.

The sperm impregnates, the womb conceives.

But does conception equate to creation? And is creation and creativity the same thing?

Female energy, or male energy for that matter, I am not so sure can be equated to awareness, though obviously there is a correspondence. I do not mean to sound vague, but, well, LOL, can any of us define energy? I have read a few technical and metaphysical accounts but I am not so sure they would be helpful here.

This question and all issues surrounding it seems, to me, to lie at the heart of the confusion in the world today.

Perhaps I am too rigid in defining terms. After all, I seem to recall reading of Fulcanelli appearing to his disciple in a female form, if I am not mistaken. If we can consider that to be a true account, then it would seem in some way Fulcanelli was able to literally transform himself. That or perhaps he appeared as a thought projection, or some "ethereal" versions of himself. Either way, kind of a nice thought in terms of its implications that we are most definitely not our bodies or these forms we roam around with here on the physical plane.

But do we incarnate with a purpose, that is, choosing either gender, which would seem to imply learning what it is to be male or female according to gender, or is it just a roll of the dice without any rhyme or reason?

Another thought earlier tonight while walking the dogs, if we use the terms positive and negative, again as relative terms without any paramoralistic nonsense, for male and female, active and passive, then does this not indicate something of magnetism? As in, actual magnets, with a positive and a negative polarity? And is that linked to the magnetic field of the earth. It might be a nonsense thought, but what came to me is that perhaps as the poles shift in the history of the earth, this affects the magnetic variable within our consciousness, i.e. how we perceive and behave in terms of male or female energy.

So what happens when the "positive" becomes "negative" and vice-versa, due to a shift in polarities?

I have no idea or if that even makes any sense, based on physics or what is known about pole shifts.

I also think we must take care not to ignore the fact that we have both male and female within us. It is merely temporary, perhaps, that we operate from one primary polarity, such as a man or a woman, based upon birth and the reason or purpose for this present lifetime. Considering we all accept we live multiple lifetimes.

One of the greatest mistakes throughout history I think has been equating "passive" i.e. "female", with weak.

This is changing rapidly in the days we live in.

Cheers.

 

[Hildegarda]

[..] female energy is "passive" while male is "active". [..] In answer to your first question, feminine energy is creative energy in its perhaps purest form, as manifested in this density.

This is how I think of it as well.

I also would like to comment on the word "passive". Sometimes, this word is used as to mean, "nothing is happening, the passive party isn't doing anything". IMO, in reference to the feminine energy, it rather has to do with being in tune with the world around and letting things ripen on their terms. This is directly connected to the meaning of creation as letting something new, separate from the creator, to manifest and appear. The creator's role as a DOer is still pivotal, however.

Similarly, in common parlance we often equate "active" with doing things. In reference to male energy, however, active would emphasize the direction of the force, the exertion of will to achieve a goal.

Both ways, both principles are used to get things done, just in different ways, and both have their time and place.

fwiw

One of the greatest mistakes throughout history I think has been equating "passive" i.e. "female", with weak.

indeed!