"Whether Pentagon was struck by a 757 is quite unimportant" -David Ray Griffin


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I just saw that David Ray Griffin has a new 9/11 book out: “9/11 Ten Years Later: When State Crimes Against Democracy Succeed”. It just came out September 6 (2011) and it’s already out of stock on Amazon. According to Amazon, Griffin addresses these main points:

* 9/11 did not justify the war in Afghanistan

* Otherwise-rational journalists have endorsed miracles by supporting explanations which contradict laws of science

* 9/11 has been categorized by some social scientists as a state crime against democracy

* The basic faith of Americans is not Christianity, but faith in their Nation which prevents Americans from examining evidence that 9/11 was orchestrated by U.S. leaders

* The success of the 9/11 state crime against democracy need not be permanent

* Comments on the issues debated within the 9/11 Truth Movement

About this last point, Amazon states that Griffin “reinforces his claim that the reported phone calls from the airliners were faked, and argues that the intensely debated issue of whether the Pentagon was struck by a Boeing 757 is quite unimportant.”

I find this last comment quite curious considering meticulous analysis of details, including those related to the Pentagon strike, is what brought Griffin to the forefront of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Of the dozens of lies told, the one about a Boeing 757 striking the Pentagon is the easiest one to refute–which makes it a key lynchpin in establishing the government’s deceit. It certainly isn’t the only obvious lie, but by no means is this detail “quite unimportant” either.

Since I haven’t read the book, I don’t know if Griffin actually said what Amazon reported (or in what context he said it), or if the people at Amazon are distorting what he said as disinfo in their commentary. (Anyone who's read it, please clarify this point.)

In addition to the abundant physical evidence that a 757 did not hit the Pentagon, there's the issues of means and motives. Seems I recall reading in the first edition of “9/11 – The Ultimate Truth” (by Laura Knight-Jadczyk and Joe Quinn), the leading theory was that Israel fired a missile at the Pentagon as a surprise double-cross from the original plan.

And they did this to gain leverage over the American government by forcing them into the awkward position of having to improvise a cover story that would be such a transparent lie that it would weaken America by eroding trust in the government. Israel would be further empowered over America because of the potential for their Zionist-controlled media to leak details proving the U.S. government’s complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

So whether media giant, Amazon is distorting what Griffin said, or if Griffin did actually say what struck the Pentagon is “unimportant,” that particular comment seems to strategically keep Zionist involvement obscured (i.e. no missile), and thus their leverage in place--without jeopardizing the distrust Americans have in their government, since there is an abundance of other holes in the governments story aside from what really hit the Pentagon.

Here’s what Paul Craig Roberts and some others have said about the book:

In this, his tenth book on 9/11 and its consequences, David Ray Griffin continues to report the facts and marshal the evidence that the mainstream media continue to ignore. Having previously demolished the official 9/11 story, Griffin now explains how the government got away with its crime against democracy.
–Paul Craig Roberts, formerly Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal

Anyone who has actually studied Griffin's writings on 9/11 knows that the evidence against the truth of the official account is overwhelming. It is not surprising that the mainstream response has been to ridicule and ignore rather than to engage in reasoned discussion. What is disappointing is that leading liberals and responsible journalists have joined in by affirming ideas that contradict basic science and condescendingly rejecting solid research without examining it. In this book, Griffin describes the behavior of these journalists and attempts, in a remarkably charitable spirit, to understand it.
–John B. Cobb, Jr., author of The Earthist Challenge to Economism and (with Herman Daly) For the Common Good

Why yet another book on 9/11? Because, as David Ray Griffin points out clearly and persuasively, 9/11 continues to be not only the greatest crime in American history, but also the most strenuously covered up, and certainly the crime with the greatest political consequences. He shows how over a decade the events of 9/11 and the reports on them have been used to attack the American democratic system. Above all, he documents the success of this attack by the refusal of the media, the academy, and religious institutions to openly discuss these matters, and by the numbers of critics who at one extreme have made fools of themselves in echoing the Orwellian official version, and at the other extreme have been either fired or silenced after their dissent from it.
–Peter Dale Scott, poet, former Canadian diplomat, professor at the University of California (Berkeley), and author of American War Machine.

Our civilization cannot survive if we do not confront the unanswered questions about 9/11. David Ray Griffin does that with the same clarity and meticulous documentation that characterized his preceding books. Frightening as the enormity of the truth about 9/11 may be, we should also bear in mind that it is a window of opportunity for addressing a whole range of problems threatening the lives of our children and grandchildren. I am sure those who follow will recognize David Ray Griffin s body of work as one of the most important contributions of the last decade.
–Niels Harrit, Associate Professor Emeritus, Nano-science Center, Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen


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JGeropoulas said:
I just saw that David Ray Griffin has a new 9/11 book out: “9/11 Ten Years Later: When State Crimes Against Democracy Succeed”. It just came out September 6 (2011) and it’s already out of stock on Amazon.

There was an article on SOTT with a review of this book recently:



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JGeropoulas said:
About this last point, Amazon states that Griffin “reinforces his claim that the reported phone calls from the airliners were faked, ... .”

I had always respected Griffin and his work, trusting his word and his authority-like delivery of information.

Recently I discovered that his pronouncement of the Flt. 77 calls having been faked is not the done deal that he tried to sell.

The cell phone calls, yes, but not the seat back phone calls.

There are records of the seat back phone calls, going through several people before being connected to Ted Olson. Griffin had argued that the seat back phones were not installed/in service on 911.

Though the phones were gradually being phased out at that time, there is no convincing evidence that they had been disabled on Flt. 77.

I was disappointed when I learned of this and Griffin's premature 'jumping to conclusions'.
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