Why do some people "wake up", while others do not?

JGeropoulas

The Living Force
What exactly is free will? Do we choose to wake up? Pondering the issue of "free will" vs. determining factors like genetics, karma, etc. resulted in this rudimentary diagram. Obviously this is a complex and mysterious topic, but just thought I'd throw this out to everyone for feedback and discussion.

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There is already a very good thread on this subject here

 
I would also put it down to the persons up bringing also. Me and my dad are awake and aware. But my mum and her partner are mostly asleep. The partner doesn’t believe in alien’s mostly because of the laws of physics. Also doesn’t believe what happens when you die, he thinks it’s it. You become nothing.
 
Pondering the issue of "free will" vs. determining factors like genetics, karma, etc
Genetics, karma, etc., is free will.

Some choose the following (Ra, Law of One):

Session 54
May 29, 1981

QUESTIONER: The positively oriented entity might select a certain narrow path of thought and activity during an incarnation, and program conditions that would create physical pain if it was not followed. Is that correct?
RA: I am Ra. That is correct.
QUESTIONER: Would a negatively oriented entity do such a thing?
Can you give an example?
RA: I am Ra. Typically, a negatively oriented individual mind/body/spirit complex will program wealth, an easy existence, and the greatest opportunities for power. Thus, many negative entities are brimming with the distortion of the physical complex that you call "health."
A negatively oriented entity might, however, choose a painful condition to perfect the distortion into emotional mental processes such as anger, hatred, and frustration. Such an entity could spend an entire incarnation sharpening an imperfect edge of hatred or anger and thus be able to polarize more negatively, or towards separation.
 
‘Wake up’ is a lesson, I would expect it’s the lesson you only get to take after all the other required lessons have been completed.

I feel that it’s where each soul started in this reality, you get your list of lessons, this one is just not there on many … not until they finish all their others.

From my book named, ‘Mantodeans’

‘Think about it, so few are moving forward in our reality, it seems like an immense burden just to create all of this for so little rewards. But that is just from a single mindset, if you dive deeper here, there were many just starting out that completed some of their hardest lessons that they needed to get done. Many more were tested and failed over and over again, but there is still hope for those who punish themselves … for the lesson. So, this is not about the few that finally made it, it's about all of you that see this reality as it is … and are astounded at what you found.’

‘It’s all about the lessons.’ Haiku …
 
If I was to answer the question with an opinion - it then brings to my mind, another question..... :scared:

Speaking of individually souled people, whether they wake up or not must be a choice, therefore: it is free will. This should encompass whether to 'see' something that's in front of their face (and chosing to ignore it and pretend it's not there), as much as it encompassess the need to do 'the work' in order to 'see' something in the first place. So that seems to me, two types of 'seeing'.

An OP is not an idividuated soul, so therefore it is unlikely that they understand what free will is, or what 'waking up' means for that matter, unless it's a program that 'tells' them what it means, but they won't really understand what it means or it's implications, so they can't do that thing anyway. It would be like asking a cat to understand how 3rd density works. They think it's either magic, or scary/spooky because they don't understand how it works. I guess its pretty similar to how we 'see' the density above us, too.

So my question comes from those individually souled people who chose not to wake up..... (and I'm about to answer my own question here, would you believe it!)

My question would be, by not 'waking up' (seeing what's right in front of their noses), is that person chosing to cycle into entropy? My answer to that would be both "yes" and "it depends on the person".

Because not everybody choses, or has been persuaded to follow the entropic path (I am assuming this because it would be in line with the concept of free will). Some people just might not be ready to 'wake up', at least not in their current lifetime. Others are already awake, but chose to see only what they wish to see. They make a choice to believe an illusion. To me, these are the people who are on the entropic path.

We can use Hitler as a potential example (and only if he uses free will). He was obviously an individuated soul because he has been reincarnated (according to the Cs). So, not a psychopath (broken OP), maybe a sociopath? But never-the-less a deeply troubled individual. In his (or her) new life, will he (or she) chose to go towards STO or STS - by making a choice to see what they want to see, or seeing what is actually there?

It seems to me that this is where free will manifests. But then, we must first have a definition of what "waking up" means. I suppose it could mean the opposite of "going to sleep" and one could only 'chose' to "go to sleep" if one had been already awake first. That would require the exercise of free will. If one was already asleep, then it would require the effort of free will in order to wake up and that would only work with an individuated soul because they would be the only ones who would KNOW they are asleep (and don't see things because of it).

So, with regard to Free Will, I think the concept may have more influence on each of the steps (even without our conscious knowledge) than we realise.
 
What exactly is free will?
Perhaps you need to define what waking up means to you. The structure you propose is in fact pyramidal, with 1 GOD (unidentified. Jewish? Christian? Muslim? Monotheistic other? (oxymoron producing god's war against itself) serving as a sine qua non condicio.
 
I think it's just a critical point in the natural development of our awareness. There's a barrier where we finally pass through where we "wake up" or click, and everything becomes clearer. Most people find themselves in the middle of a battlefield, so to say.

When my younger sister "woke up" she was enraged at the injustice of it all, and took her a few years to settle in to tolerating the chaos of selfishness.

If you've ever been in say, a learning situation, where you're trying to comprehend something and it's just not clicking... then after a while someone explains it to you in a way that does make it click - and then there's the big "Now I get it !" but in this particular situation, we were aware of enough universal signals that pushed us over the threshold.
 
What exactly is free will?

Perhaps you need to define what waking up means to you.

Although JGeropoulas mentions "awakening" in his chart with the description "'remembering' oneself, waking up to the 'holinesss' of true existence", I'm not sure how clear it is. I think "free will" is relatively a simpler concept to understand (i.e., one is fundamentally free), even if some don't think free will exists.

As for the concept of "waking up", I think it's comparatively "vague". From an STO-candidacy point of view, I'd personally add this to its definition or description: "to gradually decrease and eventually stop injuring/damaging oneself with deep and/or persistent negative thoughts and emotions", although I can't currently be sure how objective this approach is.
 
Perhaps you need to define what waking up means to you. The structure you propose is in fact pyramidal, with 1 GOD (unidentified. Jewish? Christian? Muslim? Monotheistic other? (oxymoron producing god's war against itself) serving as a sine qua non condicio.

Well for graphs and getting rid of laws , there's this ( gnosis page 72 ), but to the thread's question , " externalities " aside , much as one can't prove a negative assertion , most aquedate answer would be choice ( probably ?).

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I think all this inspires me to re-read In Search of the Miraculous and the Gnosis series since I read those at the very beginning of my journey when I was so amazed just discovering that such ideas even existed.
 
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