“World's Stolen / Secret History”

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-http://www.riseearth.com/2013/09/australias-stonehenge-history-of.html#.UtZgXGRdXl0
By Steven Strong

According to Frederic Slater, who was the President of the Australian Archaeological and Education Research Society, an Original stone arrangement he and a colleague were investigating throughout 1939 is “the Stonehenge of Australia.” Assumed to be lost for the last 63 years, this impressive and complex sandstone arrangement is much more than a collection of rocks, signs and symbols positioned on a mound. According to Slater, “the mound is one of the oldest; I should say the oldest, forms of temples in the world, and dates back to the… advent of first man.”

there is also youtube where aboriginal elders confirm this!
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPNegFjJHo

didn't the Cs say Australian Aborigines were related to atlantians
 
rrraven said:
didn't the Cs say Australian Aborigines were related to atlantians

This is what they said:

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Q: As I understand it, Atlantis was already quite a developed civilization at that time, is that correct?
A: Yes, but regions change with waves of immigration, or conquest... witness your own lands.
Q: You also said once that there was a nuclear war in India and that this was what was being discussed in the Vedas when it talks about the 'blue-skinned' people who weren't really blue because they were Celts, and they were flying in aircraft, and they were engaged in this war, etc. Who were the Celts at war with?
A: The Paranthas.
Q: Now, wait a minute! Who are the Paranthas?! Do we have a new player here?
A: Not new.
Q: Do we know them by another name?
A: Choose.
Q: The Atlanteans? Were the Celts of India at war with the Atlanteans in the Atlantic?
A: Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilization of 3 races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island
empire, which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure it.
Q: The 3 races were the Celts... and who were the second and third?
A: Or Kantekkians.
Q: Are the Kantekkians different from the Celts?
A: Only in the sense of long term racial and genetic blending.
Q: So, Atlantis had the Kantekkians and who else?
A: Race you would call "Native Americans," and a third, no longer existing race, somewhat resembling Australian or Guinean aborigines, only lighter in complexion.

Q: Was this third group destroyed by the other two?
A: One of the 3 cataclysms.
Q: Paranthas. Who were the Paranthas?
A: Nation of race mentioned above.
Q: So, the Paranthas were the antecedents of the Abos of Australia?
A: Yes, and compare to now existing peoples of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Australia, and New Guinea for similarities, bearing in mind genetic mixing and dilution.

Q: Were the Vedas written by the Paranthas or written by the Celts?
A: Descendants of Parantha, as per "Divine guidance."
Q: That explains a LOT. I was just thinking about it the other day. If these people in India are related to the Celts, as philologists would have us believe due to language roots, there is no way I can understand this because they are simply NOTHING like them in any way. Come on! We are talking about a race that is subservient and sly and obsequious - just NOTHING like the Celts. So bizarrely different! Okay, I think that you said that this nuclear war happened something like 50,000 years ago. We have taken care of a couple of points; we have 3 races on Atlantis, Celts all over the place... did the Celts conquer the Atlanteans?
A: No.
Q: Did they just move in and hang out?
A: They took over the Northern section.
Q: At the same time, there were Celts in the Caucasus, along the Baltic, in Ireland, England and Europe...
A: Ireland, England, etc. was later.

Q: But there were in the Norse lands, as Sweden, Norway and Denmark, they were along the Baltic, and they were in the Caucasus?
A: Some above mentioned areas were ice covered.
Q: When the philologists track the language roots, they arrive at the Kurgan region, north and west of the Caucasus. Is that where the Celts went when Atlantis was destroyed?
A: Close.
Q: Were the Celts the tall blonds known as the 'Sons of Anak,' who ruled over the Sumerians as described by Sitchen?
A: "Celts" are what remains of the original prototype.
Q: Okay. Kantekkians. When did...
A: Gravity differences account for the height difference
Q: When did the Kantekkians, or Celts or whatever arrive on the Canary Islands?
A: 12,000 years ago.
Q: Did they arrive there from Atlantis directly?
A: Close.
Q: Where from?
A: Confused by trauma.
Q: What does that mean?
A: Guess.
Q: Did they come from underground?
A: Some.
Q: Were they part of the underground race?
A: No Laura. What "trauma" do you think we are referring to??
Q: The comet cluster? The Flood of Noah?
A: Close enough.

This would also explain the Stonehenge connection.

M.T.
 
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Secret Towers Of The Himalayas

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Published on Nov 28, 2013
The Himalayan Towers are a series of stone towers located mostly in Tibet. Carbon dating shows they were built approximately 500 to 1,100 years ago. Since they are generally located in prosperous villages, it is believed that their primary function was as a demonstration of a family's prestige within the community. For strength, many of the towers use a star pattern of walls as opposed to a strictly rectangular method. Heights can exceed 60m. For more information see the work of Frederique Darragon.
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Note:
I thought that this documentary is somewhat different from the others made in Tibet, and contains some interesting features.

The towers are impressing structures between 150-170 feet high, some rectangular, some multifaceted to better resist earthquakes. They are spread across many Tibetian regions, there are between 600-700 pieces of them.

Interesting is the “maze dance” filmed, which is similar to the Greek one, at minute 23.23.

Although the documentary cannot reveal their destination, the scenery is impressing, also there are featured some of the local customs (such as disposing of the dead bodies by cutting them to pieces and feeding them to the vultures, to turn man back to ether (min.37, the actual bodies are not filmed! )).

Also, there is an interesting remark made in a legend, that sustains that their forefathers were hairy and have a tail which they lost when they started agriculture and became farmers (min 39.39).

FWIW
Joy
 
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10 October 2018 - Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at the presentation of the multi-volume work “World History”, Moscow
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at the presentation of the multi-volume work “World History”, Moscow, October 10, 2018

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Mr Shvydkoy,
Mr Chubaryan,
Colleagues and friends,

We have gathered today on a wonderful occasion – a ceremony to mark the publication of a fundamental academic work “World History in Six Volumes” edited by Russian Academy of Sciences member Alexander Chubaryan.

First of all, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to the authors that put their hard work and creativity into its preparation. It is especially important for us that researchers from educational institutions subordinate to the Foreign Ministry – MGIMO and the Diplomatic Academy – took part in this large-scale project.

This project is one of the biggest publishing initiatives in the humanities undertaken in this country in the past few decades. We consider this a testament to the high level of Russian scholarship that drew on domestic and foreign historiography to comprehend the road traversed by humankind from the vantage point of the present.

The volumes of the work are devoted to key historical eras: the Ancient World, medieval civilizations of the East and the West, the Common Era and the world in the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries.


I would like to note that the team of authors gave prominence to Russia’s role and place in the world historical process.

Naturally, to create such an integral picture of the world the authors took an interdisciplinary approach and drew on advances in fields beyond history, such as economics, sociology, demography, anthropology and philosophy.

The work’s practical significance is apparent. As outstanding Russian historian Vasily Klyuchevsky once remarked, history “punishes ignorance of its lessons.” Bad-faith distortions of historical truth, including facts of World War II, the outcome of which formed the basis of the international security architecture of the modern world, attempts to whitewash the Nazis and their accomplices are fraught with extremely serious risks, especially considering the current difficult international realities.

Russia is a consistent opponent of politicising historical research and using it in unseemly geopolitical games. We believe that the release of “World History” today by this team of authors will make a tangible contribution to promoting a strictly scholarly assessment of past events that will be unbiased and free of ideological platitudes.

There is no doubt that this work will be much in demand among specialists and a wide circle of readers both in this country and abroad. I would like to thank once again all those who put their hearts into this genuinely unprecedented project.
 
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Hmm, maybe it could be a way more practical to learn Russian language, while devouring those encyclopedic six multi-volumes, hehe...

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Now, if there was only a translation into English!!

Since Lavrov mentioned the potential international impact, I wonder if they haven't planned translating it? Is there some kind of spokesperson for this project that a Russian speaker could ask via email?
 
Joint study books on history seems to be connected to this large-scale project.

July 7, 2018 - Russian, German historians present 1st volume of joint study book on history
Russian, German historians present 1st volume of joint study book on history

First volume of the study book ‘Germany and Russia: The Milestones of Shared History in Collective Memory', which is a result of joint efforts of Russian and German scholars, was presented on Friday night at Tolstoy Library in Munich.

The 25-chapter book highlights the 18th century events.

"Quite naturally, there can be no common textbook [for both countries] because we espouse different didactical principles but we decided to produce a common study book," Dr. Alexander Chubaryan, the co-chairperson of the Mixed Commission for Studies of the Newest History of Russian-German Relations
told TASS.

"The commission has worked for many years and we think it has launched an educational project in the form of a book for teachers," he said. "This is the first experience of the kind for us in general."

In all, the study book will have three volumes devoted to the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries respectively. "Our German counterparts proposed to start off with the 20th century, or with the 3rd volume that has twenty chapters, including 14 joints ones," Dr. Chubaryan said.

A total of six chapters in the volume devoted to the 20th century dwell on the issues, on which Russia and Germany have differing position. "We’ve done it this way - one topic but two different articles, one written by a Russian author and the other, by a German author," Dr. Chubaryan said.

For instance, Russia and Germany’s views differ on Stalingrad and on the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact.

The experience of collaboration between Russian and German historians and the publication of the study book has produced a big public effect. "The idea has been echoed in other countries, and we’ve begun cooperation along these lines with Austria and Poland," Dr. Chubaryan said.

The Russian-Polish project will also have three volumes. "But we decided to publish a study book on the 19th century first and quite recently we did a presentation of the volume devoted to the 18th century," the scholar said, adding that the Polish sides has asked for drafting joint chapters only.

"Still when it came to the 20th century, I said this [joint chapters] was impossible," Dr. Chubaryan said, specifying that the two sides’ positions differed considerably as regards assessments of the events of 1939.

"In this way, our fruitful cooperation with Germany paved the way for cooperation with other countries, too," he said

Dr. Chubaryan underlined the high standing of the sphere of culture, science and education, which remained beyond political turbulences in the current highly complicated international situation.

"I’m convinced it’s important to stay away from politicizing them and the German counterparts supported me on that," he said.

The Mixed Commission for Studies of the Newest History of Russian-German Relations was founded at the initiative of Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Germany’s Federal Chancellor Helmut Kohl. Its goal is facilitate to comprehensive studies of Soviet-German and Russian-German relations in the 20th century.

The commission assists the bilateral projects and publications and organizes annual colloquia alternately in Russia and Germany.

Notable historians and directors of central archives of both countries have membership of the commission.
 
Since Lavrov mentioned the potential international impact, I wonder if they haven't planned translating it? Is there some kind of spokesperson for this project that a Russian speaker could ask via email?

Could Email or phone the Russian Consular department in Paris for inquiries?

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Since the 1rst volume has been written by Russian and German historians about 18th 19th and 20th century will be very interesting to know both points of view about the WW2.

Waiting for English translation!!
 
I listened to Lavrov's speech and he mentions the historian Chubarian (Чубарьян, Александр Оганович) who is the main editor of these volumes:

The first five volumes are already published (2011 - 2014) and can be downloaded here as searchable PDFs (in Russian). The first five volumes cover the period from ancient times to the 19th century. As far as I understood, they finished the last 6th volume which covers the 20th century - that's why Lavrov's speech.
 
I listened to Lavrov's speech and he mentions the historian Chubarian (Чубарьян, Александр Оганович) who is the main editor of these volumes:

The first five volumes are already published (2011 - 2014) and can be downloaded here as searchable PDFs (in Russian). The first five volumes cover the period from ancient times to the 19th century. As far as I understood, they finished the last 6th volume which covers the 20th century - that's why Lavrov's speech.

Yes it seems like that this the case; the final volume six is now being published about the 20th century. Hence, the speech of Lavrov to congratulate the participants on finishing the whole project now with the sixth volume.
 
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