Young Forum Members/ The lure of attractive new age groups

Greetings my fellow Truth-Seekers,
I just want to know how many persons posting on the forum is in their early 20's? I'm 23 years and i'm just curious as to whether there are other young ones out there.
The fact is that being an active seeker on the path requires the use of discernment and there are many fluffy, colourful paths out there which kinda lures young ppl who are awakening to the truth of our reality. Believe me, it's so easy to be led astray till it's too late. Most of the recent new age groups really paint a beautiful picture of reality. They portray a sense of invincibility and comfort to the padawan seeker (which is what most new religions, religious groups and cults do at the moment of their inception). Phew. The journey can be so overwhelming. Sometimes i just want to give up......But i can't. I have this deep inner yearning inside....I just can't ignore it. (sigh).
You know, the funny thing is that i am involved with this new meditation group that kinda dabbles in Gurdgeiff's philosophies, but never recommends the actual printed material to it's members (eg In Search of the Miraculous, Bezeelbub's tales to his grandson -not too sure of the name). I sometimes wonder why.

Anyways, enough about me, i want to hear other forum members experiences with other new age or religious groups or cults, and how they discovered cassiopaea.org and signs of the times.

Cheers.
 
I'm 20 and the only experience I've had is with channeled material: Ra, Marciniak and the C's. I got into these because I read some David Icke and felt that it might contain a glimmer of the truth but was hugely incomplete. Laura's work has since led me to investigate the writings of Gurdjieff and Mouravieff.

I was previously a skeptical but open-minded materialist who had not sufficiently considered all the available data regarding the nature of reality. I was lucky enough to be introduced to 6th density channeled material by friends who have a similar attitude, and it was the information at Cassiopaea.org which drew me off the fence into accepting much of what I had read as 'probable' instead of 'possible'. I never really saw anything beautiful about most religions, 'New Age' or traditional, and wasn't inclined to investigate such things.

I never had any of the deep yearning for truth that many people describe, although I did feel that something was not right with the answers which Science (TM) was providing me and I felt very confused about the whole situation in which humanity has found itself. I understand that many people have arrived here after a long search for what they recognise to be truth, and to be honest I don't know why it has been planted before me and not others. I am inclined to think that the journey is as important as the destination and that I am certainly not going to get a free ride.
 
Agreed Ben. It most certainly is not an easy ride. But certain new age groups and organizations 'market' it to be so. So, right now, i'm at a bifurcation point. I'm overwhelmed with the Cassiopaea material i read from 20 chapters of the Wave series. That's because the material Laura channeled from the C's is shockingly revealing and cause the conflict which Gurdgieff talks about in the book 'In search of the miraculous'. The truth is not always pleasant and can't be marketed as anything less than it really is; in fact the truth should not be marketed at all. In my honest opinion, if the truth is sugar coated, then it is maybe half the truth or a percentage of it, with a small but crucial/critical aspect omitted accidentally or intentionally.
 
I'm 17 and I got here through a series of odd coincidences. I became convinced at age 11 that the aliens and the paranormal were just artificially genereated beliefs by psychotic people. I got interested in Ufology over the years, and I started hearing about channelings from other densities. Being already interested in alien contact from my Ufology research, I stumbled upon Cassiopaea and decided to read up a little bit. The Cassiopaeans made so much sense to me and seemed to clear up some mysteries about my bizarre past. So I became very interested and eventually ended up here.

I was never enticed by the New Age "Space Brothers" approach to reality. At the time, I thought it was just a bunch of spiritual hooplah, and I believed in the mind not the soul. My time studying Ufology conditioned me to a more scientific approach to the mysteries of our reality. The Cassiopaean material seems to be a perfect blend of the elements of science, metaphysics, and mysticism. I believe these are the keys to understanding on third density, and the Cassiopaean approach is really what built the bridge that changed me from Jr. Ufologist to Truthseeker.

I too have had the very deep yearning for knowledge and understanding, and this drove my research. After reading the Transcripts, I knew I was going to be on a lifelong quest to gain more knowledge and understanding. So, after reading about networking, and my desire for more modern material, I ended up in this forum.
 
I'm 21, and have been reading the material here for 2+ years. Prior to that, like Ben, I was an open-minded materialist. I'd never had any 'mystical' experiences, or anything odd at all. I believed in the possibility of "God" but had no idea with it was. The first metaphysical books I read were some Castaneda ones, followed by some channels (like Cayce, Ramtha, and then Ra). The Ra material really resonated, and as a result of my time spent reading David Wilcock's material, I forced myself to turn off my critical abilities and accept it as gosepl truth. Luckily I found the C's material and Laura's work and worked on shattering that false crystallization.

It seems I'm "man #3", so I've had some close calls with systems trying to get me to willingly turn off my critical abilities: Ra/Wilcock, Sant Thakar Singh (a guru, who seems sincere, but requires you to meditate 3 hours a day, be a vegetarian, avoid sex, and accept him as the living Master/Christ through whom salvation from karma is possible), and a local Baptist church that a friend invited me to (I felt the 'high' of the congregation during 'worship', and thought to myself, "this may be a good church!". The pastor then said that the Holy Spirit was coming, as if "on a Wave". hmmm).
 
I'm 24 and have never really had an mystical experiences before I managed to find the C's site. Im going to give a brief synosis of some of my life experiences and story to illustrate the reason why the C's material had enough resonsnace withing me to encourage me to stay and read on for the next 2 years to present, after finding the cassiopaean network of sites.

I was adopted into a Scottish Roman Catholic family and baptised as such. I quickly came to realise (by the age of about 11 or 12) that the bible and religous teachings of Catholasism were severly lacking of any real useful information about the world around me and how to live in it, and indeed what was really going on.

I was unlucky I guess some would say as I was adopted into a family dominated by a ruthless, violent and sadistic, alchaholic man (my adopted father). My mother for much of my early years was never really around to talk to and help me form an opinion of the world around me or what I should be doing with my life. A severe case of mumps has also (I sense) left my mother mentally scarred with some quite startling psycopathic/sadistic feeding behaviour when it comes to inter-personal relations. I say this because for most of my life growing up I felt very alone partially due to my mother being in a near constant state of breakdown and overload due to the violence both physical and mental from my father. Early on my mother and older sister (who are blood relations) formed a very close bond and would comfort each other and hold each other through the hard times, which left me somewhat on the outside looking in with knowone to hold me when I cried at night to tell me it was all gonna be OK.

I had no parental figure to talk to about my life or what was going on within myself and my "Kids view of the world". This lead me to start asking questions of myself about who Iam, and my place in this world from an early age. I started to observe not only the dynamics of my family relations, but also the dynamics of primary and secondary school kids I was around, and what I saw terrified me. I basically saw people knowingly and deliberately using, hurting and controlling other people, which flew in the face of the standard Catholic Teachings being rolled out at my local church. In fact my own parents, who claimed to be living the teaching of the bible, were not doing as they should and to be honest for what seemed like an eternity I nearly went over the edge.

I had become so horrified by the situation I not only found myself in (which at the time I flet I had no control over) but the world I saw around me which didn't work the way the "Good Book" said it should. I knew back then in my early teens that the world wasn't right, that things were only seemingly going from bad to worse and I had no concept as to why.

Things started coming to a tipping point for me at the age of around 12, I felt so lost, helpless and alone I had started to self mutilate and literally take razors to my own flesh to feel a sense of relief or release from the pain inside of me. I had also attempted to take my own life on at least 3 occasions and needed medical help to recover from my own self-strangulation. Looking back Im not sure how I survived that period of my life or what drove me on, but I then done something that to this day Im still ashamed of. I started to project my own pain onto the people and itno the world around me.

I started to use people, to hurt people and I guess to try and cause as much pain around me, as I felt within myself. I would lie, abuse and knowlingly set others up to take the blame for my own actions (like a regular little psycopath). I could do this because at the time I had no consience and no real feelings, I had nothing to hold me back or make me feel bad for other people, so I became a master of my own universe of pain and suffering (or so I thought) for as many as 2-3years.

It wasn't untill some time around the age of 14-15 that something happened to me that I hadn't experienced before. I started to actually see the pain that I was causing in people, and to almost feel or empathise with the feelings of pain and hurt in others around me whom I had myself on many occasions hurt or used. I realised that I was quickly becoming my father and that thought alone sickened me to my core. At this time I also for the first time realised I had an inner voice I could talk to myself with inside my own head (something I did not have in my early life as far as memory serves me). It was this inner voice (constantly questioning my own actions) coupled with my consience that literally was blocking me form being able to keep acting in such a psycopathic and destructive way. I could try and hurt other people still, but I would pay a terrible price mentally and physically for it and soon realised that I needed to change the way I was acting or I wouldn't long be of this world. For the first time in myt life I decided I wanted to stay in this world, no matter how screwed up it was, and that I no longer wanted to be a part of the problem, but a part of the solution.

I decided to observe even more colseley those around me, to see what I could find in them that might explain some of the darkness in my own life and the world around me, and again I was terrified at what I saw. I never really understood the true nature of psycopathic individuals out there and those affected by them by proxy, but I begun to see it and began to fight against psycopathic, selfish a controlling behaviour of the people around me and withing my own being. And to this day still try to fight the darkness I know is within me and fight to overcome it.

For me everyday living in this world has been a struggle to survive against a tide of darkness threatening at any point to overwhelm me from within or without. At the age of around 16-17 I decided to try and help other people instead of helping myself (in fact I thought maybe my growing empathic nature and ability to feel the pain of others around me was a form of punishment for my past sins). So thats what I tried to do.

This inevitably lead me into a series of disasterous relationships, when meeting people and trying to give my all to help them (mostly when said help was not asked for or accepted), when in fact I was only feeding their own illusions and control sysytems...for a long time I failed to learn from my mistakes, untill I was once again close to suicide after a being used and left heartbroken by a young lady exhibiting some low level, but in hindsight rather obvious psycopathic traits.

If im honest (and I am rather ashamed of admitting this) I gave up all hope of ever having any kind of life at all in this world. A large part of me thought that I was merely here to be food for other people to feed on (and how right I was) and that that was all I could expect form this life. So I for the first time in a long time I spoke to God and basically said something along the lines of... "Im done, Im finished with my own life, and I dont want your help to try and make thing better, there are far more people out there in greter need than me. So Im asking you God if you would just allow me to help in some way, to be used as a tool by you to help others in some way shape or form, so that when I do leave this world, it will not all have been for naught and I may have been of some practical use to others, besides being used/controlled/food for them".

This is why I think I made it here to this site and to these teachings and writings. Laura's work detailing the true nature of this world and the people living in it ignited a spark in me that no other work or teaching have ever stoked in me. I believe I came here not by chance, but maybe by asking for help to help others, and what better way than the "fourth way" as espoused by the C's and the QFG here. I still have massive self-doubt and 50%-70% of the time believe myself to be a psycopath or OP and still just part of the problem (especially when reading about such as there are many similarities between myself and OP's in particular). But all any man or woman can do is try to help, try to find the truth and try to see this world and the people in it as they really are and not as we would like to. The harder part is to then find a way to make such information accessible to others. It is then up to the people around us whether they want to take an interest or not, for my part I try to let people know the possibilites and then let then make up their own damn minds. Everything starts with choice.

Mr Smith: "Why Mr Anderson, why do you persist?"
Neo: "Because I choose to"
 
Wow,
it's amazing the amount of garbage we have all been through. hkoehli, i too have had brushes with gurus and baptist churches. lol.
At age 12-14, my best friend was a baptist and was trying desperately to convert me. When I look back, i realize his dad was the motivating factor. When i started seeing through the charade, i decided to break free of that friendship.
At that time i started with the Self-Realization fellowship with Paramahansa Yogananda as the guru. The material was good and expounded the use of will, but my interest in it dropped off like a ripe fruit.

I then started following Swami Muktananda's material....the Siddha Yoga material. I definitely resonated more with that. This was followed by a dry spell in my meditation practices and dabbling in esoteric and occult literature, till i came across David Icke's book, the Reptilian Agenda. At 16, the concept of intelligent lizard-men terrified the crap out of me. I couldn't sleep for a week.

I then had a massive craving, a yearning for inner exploration. I went searching, and discovered Centerpointe with their Holosync technology, claimed to have a person 'Meditating like a zen monk in minutes'' ---- i tried for a year, only to be disquieted by the fact that they advise one to put on the headphones and sit in a darkened room, and just focus on the sound. My spirit rebelled against that wholly.

I was then contacted by the higher balance institute. I got a letter as if by magic.......like neo getting the computer message. After reading the letter, and calling the company inquiring as to how they found me, i was told that one of their employees was a defector from the Holosync/centerpointe company and had client contact information. (Looking back, i now smell COINTELPRO-- i maybe wrong though).
But Higher balance marketed 6th sense development and meditation really well, to the point where i would hava a pseudo-experience of what was said in the advertisment for their particular products. If they said it would highten abilities, i would be so hyped, i would start imagining those functions. (In other words i became my own placebo). But then i realized that i was fooling myself into expecting a particular result as advertised for the module. The fact of the matter is that spiritual matters should in no way be marketed like some new gadget. The company advertises its material in such a way that you think you need it, only to be fuelled by your own hype and enthusiasm.
Truthful material need not be advertised and made enticing for members of the public.

It was at that point of realization i started backtracking to the C's material. I first started reading in 2003, but then i left off, being too overwhelmed. But what really got me back to the Cassiopaea website and forum was smoking. When i got the urge to smoke, i would go ahead, but then on the cigarette or tobacco packs, there would be messages like 'Smoking Kills' and my mind started some reverse psychology. Why do they want us so much to stop smoking tobacco, when marijuana use amongst teenagers is on the rise?
And then i started backtracking to the material Laura downloaded from the C's pertaining to the benefits of smoking tobacco, and the intake of nicotine. I did a search online for Laura knight.....whom i thought was jz knight. I kinda got the 2 confused, because of the J and the Z and the Knight, and they both being women. I checked out the Ramtha woman's website,and discovered it wasn't the site i was looking for, so i quit for a while. Then in doing some Plaiedes research and Zeta reticuli research i came across the Cassiopaea constellation, and the bells in my head started ringing, cuz that was the name of the website i was looking for. So I went to the website, and started reading the Wave material.
And here i am now.
How coincidental/synchronous.
 
wilecoyote said:
Then in doing some Plaiedes research and Zeta reticuli research i came across the Cassiopaea constellation, and the bells in my head started ringing, cuz that was the name of the website i was looking for. So I went to the website, and started reading the Wave material.
And here i am now.
How coincidental/synchronous.
Just remember, and never forget, to apply all your intellectual and critical faculties to what you are finding on Cassiopaea web sites and on this forum, as much as you have been applying it to anything else in the past, with which you became dissillusioned. Do not believe anything, take nothing for granted, look for the data, analyze them. What we value is knowledge. But what is knowledge? The devil, as always, is in the details. Search for your own definition, search for your own ways and methods of distinguishing knowledge from ignorance. Share your discoveries with others, learn from errors of others. Help others to learn from your errors. That is the best use of networking. And that is our chance.
 
Erm, im 23, no experience with other "groups" i didn't even know such things existed until after i read about them here. I've always been curious as to the nature of our reality, lost faith when i was 13, being raised catholic and then being attracted to the same sex tends to make one believe that there is no god for why would god create something he labels abomination?

Always had the feeling of being different from people around me, i tend to see patterns where others dont and when i point them out i would get the "does not compute" response so i stopped pointing them out.

I came to cass by searching for info on the apocalypse and once i finished Mass Mind Control and Who Wrote the Bible i was hooked. The first time i read about hyperdimensional lizards i laughed and tossed the idea aside, now i kinda believe aliens eat us and regularly drop hints in social situations to that affect. I've also come to see "the matrix" more so now and can see how it uses feedback to regulate individuals. I've also noticed bizarre little things that i can only label manifestations of the symbol system that is our reality, although translating them is much more difficult then noticing them.

Been reading Gurdjieff and practicing with his system, but it takes alot of work. Im trying to be patient, not to force anything and just go with the flow as that seems to have worked up to this point, and hopefully that will drop me at my final destination.
 
Interesting,
There seems to be quite a few young'uns here on this forum.

Ark, as you said, the devil is in the detail. There is an 'I' of mine which wants to just be spoon fed! I am serious! To just be led to the 'light at the end of the tunnel' (to be truthful, it's the light at the beginning of the meat processing plant). I think we are our own greatest enemies, and we have to combat our inherent laziness. That laziness which causes us to accept anything that is fed to us. We would believe almost anything our leaders would tell us, unless, there is some deprogramming done.

It is true ignorance is bliss, but once one gets a glimpse of the 'truth' or the true nature of reality, it's kinda impossible (short of amnesia or death) to go back to living in blissful ignorance, as puppets of manipulative leaders and and machiavellian deceivers in the guise of honest politicians, church clergy, new age gurus etc.

After reading the Wave material, the truthful material will be embedded is some part of your psyche until you consciously acknowledge it. I ignored some of the material i read from the Cassiopaea website 4 years ago, but that little obscure memory apparently had a life of its own. I just couldn't forget the C's channelled material. This caused a stirring in me to seek alternative news media, thus the truth.

I know this is true for some of the other forum members out there.
 
Greetings,

I'm 21, and have been reading the C's material since late 2001 or early 2002. Before I found the C's material I always had this urge to know more than what was in front of me. So I was introduced to a certain someone who was a Christian Evangelic fanatic who also believed in aliens and the 'supernatural'. He even talked about Greys having bases on the moon and other stuff like that. It was very interesting to hear him talk about how Jesus will come in a space ship and take the righteous to the Kingdome of Heaven, etc...
After a while, I started to talk about his garbage ideas on the internet on yahoo chat-rooms about how Jesus was going to come in his space ship and rescue those that are going to accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour, and those that were not going to were going to hell. Then one day in a chat room a gentleman privately messaged me and told me that I knew some stuff and if I was interested in reading some really interesting ideas being presented by a certain web-site. He asked me if I was interested at all in alternative news and I said yes, that I really like Jeff Rense(:lol: lol). So he said why don't you check out this site, which was Cassiopaea. I checked it out and found it to be incredible. I read a lot of it, but definitely took it with a grain of salt. I even introduced the site to my Christian fanatic buddy and he said it had some interesting stuff but all the stuff about Jesus and Lucifer the Fallen Angel were garbage and that reading this stuff was surly a sin because they don't believe in Jesus. Then after reading the material for a while, I came to the whole idea of Lizards eating us and that we are "food for the moon", so to speak and I got scared and ran. I told my self I would not read this site again until I had proof that what these guys are saying is true. Then one day when my friend and I were at a video store looking for an anime (Japanese Animation) we rented an animation series called Experimental Series-Lain, which talked about VERY similar stuff, as the Cassiopaea material, and that was my proof. It was the fact that I was presented with almost the same material through a COMPLETELY different source. As I read I also discovered that what Ark states here:
ark said:
Just remember, and never forget, to apply all your intellectual and critical faculties to what you are finding on Cassiopaea web sites and on this forum, as much as you have been applying it to anything else in the past, with which you became dissillusioned. Do not believe anything, take nothing for granted, look for the data, analyze them. What we value is knowledge. But what is knowledge? The devil, as always, is in the details. Search for your own definition, search for your own ways and methods of distinguishing knowledge from ignorance. Share your discoveries with others, learn from errors of others. Help others to learn from your errors. That is the best use of networking. And that is our chance.
And I understood that this site was different than every other site, because they stressed the readers to do their own research and not to believe everything that they read because experience is what amplifies lessons and that doing the Work is not as easy as having some guy come in a space ship and take you to the Kingdome of Heaven.

Thanks
Nina
 
It's amazing how much material the Japanese can put on tv/dvd via means of Anime! They don't have to go through hollywood, therefore, sometimes controversial topics/issues are tackled. I think the possibility of an American movie depicting anything discussed in the Cassiopaea transmissions/experiment is close to zero. Anime appear to be trivial to most 'mature' adults, but their simplicity allows them to go directly to the heart of a matter. No big budgets, no stunt men, no expensive actors/actresses; just good voice acting, and good artistic skill is needed. Simple formula, yet effective. See how much kids know about a particular cartoon/anime character.

By the way, 'knowledge_of_self' where can i buy the dvd's or download the 'Serial Experiments- Lain' series?
 
Hello,

Yes, I agree! Personally I am a big fan of Anime. But like everything else, there are some really, really BAD animes and there are some really, really good ones. And sometimes watching the one or two really good ones makes it worth it to sit through the bad ones too. Anyway regarding Lain, depending on where you live and how much you have access to Jap-animation you can find the series pretty much anywhere that you can buy animation or rent it, it is definitely considered in the adult category though. It consists of 13 episodes, although 13 episodes are considerably small compared to other animes which usually range around 26 episodes. Anyway I will provide you with an amazon link below that you can find it at:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NX1N/702-4619081-0749643

But I have to admit that I download most of my stuff through bit-sprit, or E-mule (downloading sources) as anime is a hobby of mine, and an expensive one at that if I want to buy everyone I liked I would be really broke by now.
 
Hi,

I'm 22 and I've been reading the C's material for maybe a year or a year and a half. I was raised catholic, but I actually read some of the bible, and it didn't take me long to figure out this was just plain wrong. I mean, the bible approves of slavery and human trafficking, and that's just the tip of it.

Throughout the years I made up a lot of theories to explain out what I saw - my conclusions were pretty much that civilization is BS, society and everything it tells you is BS (especially the roles it tries to force you into). I read a lot, and I always knew that Nature is much smarter than us. I guess you could say that compared to other people around me, I was an alien.

Anyway I got suckered into "you create your own reality", but that didn't last long as my observations proved it wrong pretty quick. Also you might say i was lucky regarding that, as I had a "typical lower working-class girl" 's life, I never had the leisure to ignore what I saw, and I saw a lot of things which led me to believe that if there's a God, he's a vicious jerk. But still, I was "faithful" to new age for a while, because it introduced me to the idea of reincarnation, and that one just clicked into place. And I did try to fit square pegs in round holes for a bit, but eventually I had to face the fact that it didn't work, and "life" as they describe it sounds to me like a hysterical joke. Love and light, my -boootay- !

I found the cassiopaea website through searches on the net - I searched for this and that, and cassiopaea just kept surfacing. When I started reading it, I was pretty amazed at all the things it explained, and also that some of it seemed to follow my own line of thought, so I decided to give it a try, and the rest is history.

Anyway those were my two cents, have fun everyone.
 
Greetings!
I am 22 and was lead to this site after several years. I was reading a book on occultism, which I became interested in after reading about Jung and listening to Tool, when I came across Gurdjieff. I was fascinated and amazed and wanted to know more but could not find any books or anyone with knowledge. I went to vist my ma in Calgary and was sitting in her backyard when I saw her neighbor and began a conversation. The next thing I know he begins to speak more seriously and says he has I book that I have to read, and not to my surprise he brought me the In Search of the Miraculous. He also told me about this site, and in the beginning I questioned how an anti-propaghanda website could preach nonsense about energy eatting reptiles, but the veil becomes more transparent everyday. That was about half a year ago, but I have been obsessed with the esoteric side of life since my mid teens, when I became obsessed with the tarot and alchemy, which turned out to be way better friends than most of my highschool companions. Being alone taught me that I was intimately conencted with everything and was shocked when I learned that karma still remains unknown to a vast part of the population.

I am in love with religion, but from an observers' point of view. I like to see the effects on mankind that religion dispenses, and the effects of man of religion (I can't help of thinking of Frank Herbert's Dune as the greatest presentation of this idea that I have found).

Other hobbies include playing music(anything stringed), reading books(history, physics, philosophy and math)...and...and well other various things but that sums up the essentials.
Oh and three posts in a row from BC, coincidence? :)
 

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