Getting a "Handl" on things?

Megan said:

dant said:

-hedron means "face"? Used in geometry such as octahedron, polyhedron, ...
could it be that the '-' is a handl(e)?

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United Nations Panel on Magnetic Energy
_https://www.section111.cms.hhs.gov/MRA/LoginWarning.action
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COB Secure Web Site
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Mojowski 77 Treatment
{Popup for username and password}

Huh... something very fishy here or so it seems...

FWIW

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I don't know what you saw at the CMS website, but I didn't notice anything unusual. I am vaguely familiar with what it is talking about because it relates to my work, although not very closely. It does not relate to the "United Nations Panel on Magnetic Energy".

dant said:

The problem here, is that one is directed to a secure website with the warning message.
This appears to be a real govt site, not one you want to mess with, or so I think.

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The "popup" comes from the Mojowsky website, when you click the "Mojowski 77 Treatment" link. It has nothing to do with the CMS website at all.

dant said:

Yes, I know that. It is a local popup password for entry into the site.

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You can read about what's going on at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Robot
Suffice it to say that it's all fictional. You could email them for a password if you like. :)

dant said:

Yes, I did read your link... and I caught this:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Robot said:

One of which includes Mojowski 77 ; a surreal neo-noir set in an alternate Los Angeles filled with robots and cardboard guns. The cardboard guns have been displayed as artwork in several art gallery shows that opened in 2011 [7] [8]. And a video they directed/animated for Death Cab for Cutie's "Underneath the Sycamore" previews the animated TV show version of Mojowski 77, and also features a clip from their earlier video for "Grapevine Fires".

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and no, I do not want to enter a site I know nothing of beforehand using passwords.

I keep it in my mind that "Mojowski 77" is possibly a diversion.

"The robot" seems completely different from "Blue Hedron", why so?

Where could all that "Blue Hedron" stuff come from? It could be
copy/pasted from various sources but since this is a single source,
it cannot be verified or trusted at this point.

I want to point out, that there seems to be different ways to navigating
the "Blue Hedron" pages and it gets confusing at times. There seems to
be "interesting buzzwords" embedded that coincides with the C transcripts
posted above by Laura -- but then again, there is not enough data or other
sources to get a handle (pun intended ;) ) on it!

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tschai said:

Mark said:

session 21 1997 said:

A: Last clue for tonight: Look for the vibratory frequency
light.

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A frequency of light that is prime? Visible light is in the THZ range.
Are there prime numbers that large?

Recent info on largest known prime numbers:

_http://primes.utm.edu/largest.html

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I notice the word "of" is conspicuously missing from the C's response-is that merely a transcription omission, is it implied?-not sure it makes any difference at all, not sure how one would go about finding the light of vibratory frequency?

I know, I know-but we have to look under all the stones lest we miss something, yeah?

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dant said:

...The problem here, is that one is directed to a secure website with the warning message.
This appears to be a real govt site, not one you want to mess with, or so I think.

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dant said:

...I keep it in my mind that "Mojowski 77" is possibly a diversion.

"The robot" seems completely different from "Blue Hedron", why so?

Where could all that "Blue Hedron" stuff come from? It could be
copy/pasted from various sources but since this is a single source,
it cannot be verified or trusted at this point.

I want to point out, that there seems to be different ways to navigating
the "Blue Hedron" pages and it gets confusing at times. There seems to
be "interesting buzzwords" embedded that coincides with the C transcripts
posted above by Laura -- but then again, there is not enough data or other
sources to get a handle (pun intended ;) ) on it!

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Laura said:

I think it may be a transcription error, but I'll check. Darn, I've been dancing pretty fast lately, but obviously, I've got to finish getting all the transcripts up and let everyone go over them and point out any possible errors to be checked.

Meanwhile, I think if we just kind of read through those excerpts, let it soak in, then keep our eyes open, follow some intuition on what kinds of words to search with, and be patient, we may figure this one out.

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A: Alfalfa fields in Rhineland yield as of yet undreamed of
treasures.
Q: Where are these alfalfa fields?
A: Near tracks well worn.
Q: Another clue, please?
A: Nope, that is enough for now!!
Q: You guys are gonna drive me crazy! Do you mean Rhineland
as in Germany proper?
A: We do not mean Rhinelander, Wisconsin... Or do we?!? Who
is to tell?

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Wisconsin Alfalfa Acres Poised To Come Back
Jan. 24, 2012 9:06am

University of Wisconsin Extension forage specialist Dan Undersander asked producers if alfalfa was going to be part of their crop mix this coming growing season.

Look for alfalfa acres in Wisconsin to increase in the growing season ahead, especially if springtime planting weather is more favorable than it was in 2011, says University of Wisconsin (UW) Extension forage specialist Dan Undersander.

Undersander surveyed producers during a series of eight UW Agronomy Update sessions throughout the state the first week of January. Approximately 500 people attended.

Most of those surveyed said poor weather in April of 2011 – too dry in some areas, too wet in others – reduced new alfalfa seedings. Roughly three-quarters of respondents believed high grain prices held 2011 seeding numbers down. “We should see things recover a bit this year,” says Undersander. “Some of those producers are going to want to come back and seed some of the acres that they couldn’t get planted a year ago.”

In its Crop Production2011 Summary, USDA estimated that Wisconsin seedings of alfalfa and alfalfa mixtures totaled 430,000 acres, unchanged from the previous year, but down 20,000 acres from the 2009 figure.

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Origins

In 1893 newspapers reported the discovery of a Hodag in Rhinelander, Wisconsin. It had "the head of a frog, the grinning face of a giant elephant, thick short legs set off by huge claws, the back of a dinosaur, and a long tail with spears at the end". The reports were instigated by well-known Wisconsin timber cruiser and prankster Eugene Shepard, who rounded up a group of local people to capture the animal.[1] The group reported that they needed to use dynamite to kill the beast.[2]

A photograph of the remains of the charred beast was released to the media. It was "the fiercest, strangest, most frightening monster ever to set razor sharp claws on the earth. It became extinct after its main food source, all white bulldogs, became scarce in the area."[2]
[edit] Hoax

Shepard claimed to have captured another Hodag in 1896, and this one was captured alive. According to Shepard's reports, he and several bear wrestlers placed chloroform on the end of a long pole, which they worked into the cave of the creature where it was overcome.

He displayed this Hodag at the first Oneida County fair. Thousands of people came to see the Hodag at the fair or at Shepard's display in a shanty at his house. Having connected wires to it, Shepard would occasionally move the creature, which would typically send the already-skittish viewers fleeing the display.

As newspapers locally, statewide, and then nationally began picking up the story of the apparently remarkable, living creature, a small group of scientists from the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. announced they would be traveling to Rhinelander to inspect the apparent discovery. Their mere announcement spelled the end, as Shepard was then forced to admit that the Hodag was a hoax.[2][3]
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The Hodag became the official symbol of Rhinelander, Wisconsin, is the mascot of Rhinelander High School, and lends its name to numerous Rhinelander area businesses and organizations. The city of Rhinelander's web site calls Rhinelander "The Home of the Hodag."[4] A larger-than-life fiberglass sculpture of the Hodag, created by a local artist, resides on the grounds of the Rhinelander Area Chamber of Commerce. The Hodag also lends its name and image to the Hodag Country Festival, an annual country music festival that is one of Rhinelander's largest community events. It attracts over 40,000 people per year and features singers such as Neal McCoy, Little Big Town, Kellie Pickler, and Reba McEntire.

The University of Wisconsin Men's Ultimate team calls itself the Hodags.

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Rhineland (rīn'lănd") [key], Ger. Rheinland, region of W Germany, along the Rhine River. The term is sometimes used to designate only the former Rhine Province of Prussia, but in its general meaning it also includes the Rhenish Palatinate, Rhenish and S Hesse, and W Baden. (For a description, see Rhine.) Cologne, Mainz, and Ludwigshafen are among the chief cities. The Treaty of Versailles (1919) after World War I provided for the Allied occupation of most of the region; the Ruhr district was occupied by French and Belgian forces from 1923 to 1925. Largely as a result of the efforts of the German foreign minister, Gustav Stresemann, the last occupation troops (who were French) withdrew from the Rhineland in June, 1930, five years before the terminal date set by the treaty. The Treaty of Versailles had also provided that after Germany recovered the occupied territories, it was to maintain no fortifications on the left bank of the Rhine and within a zone extending 31 mi (50 km) E of the Rhine. Germany specifically reaffirmed those conditions in the Locarno Pact of 1925. In Mar., 1936, however, the National Socialist (Nazi) government of Germany began to remilitarize the Rhineland, and at the same time Hitler denounced the Locarno Pact. The League of Nations censured Germany, but took no further action. The German fortifications in the Rhineland—the so-called Siegfried Line—were an extensive system of defenses in depth, which were penetrated by the Allies in World War II only after very heavy fighting. The Rhineland was the scene of the Rhenish separatist movement, whose leaders staged uprisings in Düsseldorf, Bonn, Koblenz, Wiesbaden, and Mainz, and proclaimed a Rhineland republic at Aachen in 1923; the movement, however, collapsed in 1924.

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Rhine (rīn) [key], Du. Rijn, Fr. Rhin, Ger. Rhein, Lat. Rhenus, principal river of Europe, c.820 mi (1,320 km) long. It rises in the Swiss Alps and flows generally north, passing through or bordering on Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, Germany, France, and the Netherlands before emptying into the North Sea. Its important tributaries are the Aare, Neckar, Main, Moselle, and Ruhr rivers; canals link the river with the Maas, Rhône-Saône, Marne, and Danube (via the Main) valleys.

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Rhine River

At 1,320 kilometres (820 miles) and an average discharge of more than 2,000 cubic meters per second, the Rhine (German: Rhein, French: Rhin, Dutch: Rijn, Romansch: Rein, Italian: Reno) is one of the longest and most important rivers in Europe. The name of the Rhine comes from the Celtic Renos, literally "that which flows", from the Proto-Indo-European root *rei- ("to flow, run"), which also gave the verb "to run" in English.

The Rhine and the Danube formed most of the northern frontier of the Roman Empire, and since those days the Rhine has been a vital navigable waterway, carrying trade and goods deep inland. The many castles and prehistoric fortifications along the Rhine testify to its importance as a waterway. A castle identifies a location where traffic was stopped, usually for the purpose of collecting tolls, by the state controlling that portion of the river.

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The Iron Rhine or Steel Rhine (Dutch: IJzeren Rijn / German: Eiserner Rhein) is a partially nonoperational freight railway connecting the port of Antwerp (Belgium) and Mönchengladbach (Germany) by way of Neerpelt and the Dutch towns of Weert and Roermond.

The Treaty of London between the Netherlands and Belgium in 1839 recognised the independence of Belgium. As part of the treaty, Belgium had the right to build a road or canal from Sittard to the Prussian border over Dutch territory, with Belgium funding the construction. This right was further established in the Iron Rhine Treaty of 1873. At first, Belgium planned to dig a canal, but in the end it opted for a railway.

In 1868, construction of the Iron Rhine started, and in 1879, the first trains used the railway. Initially, traffic was dense and frequent, but it decreased over time. Currently the railroad is used by some trains between Antwerp and the zinc factory in Budel, and between Budel and Weert. The line Weert - Roermond is part of the Dutch InterCity network, and is used daily by many trains. Between Roermond and the German border, traffic has fully ceased since 1991.

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Alone of the Ring's characters, the Rhinemaidens do not originate from the Poetic Edda or Prose Edda, the Icelandic sources for most of Norse mythology.[2] Water-sprites (German: Nixen) appear in many European myths and legends, often but not invariably in a form of disguised malevolence. Wagner drew widely and loosely from those legends when compiling his Ring narrative, and the probable origin of his Rhinemaidens is in the German Nibelungenlied.[3]

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RedFox said:

fwiw

A: Alfalfa fields in Rhineland yield as of yet undreamed of
treasures.
Q: Where are these alfalfa fields?
A: Near tracks well worn.
Q: Another clue, please?
A: Nope, that is enough for now!!
Q: You guys are gonna drive me crazy! Do you mean Rhineland
as in Germany proper?
A: We do not mean Rhinelander, Wisconsin... Or do we?!? Who
is to tell?

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Seems alfalfa is used as part of crop rotation in Wisconsin...
_http://hayandforage.com/alfalfa/wisconsin-alfalfa-acres-poised-come-back

Also it may just be a hoax, but I'm curiouse if it doesn't have a real (high strangeness) basis?
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag

In 1893 newspapers reported the discovery of a Hodag in Rhinelander, Wisconsin. It had "the head of a frog, the grinning face of a giant elephant, thick short legs set off by huge claws, the back of a dinosaur, and a long tail with spears at the end". The reports were instigated by well-known Wisconsin timber cruiser and prankster Eugene Shepard, who rounded up a group of local people to capture the animal.[1] The group reported that they needed to use dynamite to kill the beast.

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Make tracks to Rhinelander for your next snowmobile safari! Rhinelander is the county seat of Oneida and offers a variety of lodging, shopping, nightlife and fun for every visitor’s taste and budget.

Oneida County 1,000 miles of groomed trails connect Rhinelander with all of Northern Wisconsin and Michigan Upper Peninsula. Trails flow through highlands hardwoods, pine forests, low lying bogs filled with spruce and tamarack, and wide-open spaces of frozen lakes and farmer’s fields.

Rhinelander is blessed to have two snowmobile clubs to take good care of the trails. The clubs strive to keep up to date with top-notch grooming equipment and groom heavily traveled trails up to four times a week.

The Northwoods Passage grooms trails from Rhinelander to west to Tomahawk, north to Minocqua, and south to the Gleason trails. The Hodag Sno-Trails Club maintains the East side of Rhinelander from Rhinelander to Pelican Lake, Sugar Camp and Monico. This area includes the scenic wilderness area of the Enterprise Trail System. Visitors are welcome to join the club’s group trail rides, which occur several times throughout the season. It’s a friendly rivalry between these clubs to try to outdo each other for grooming quality. The winner, of course, is you and the other visiting snowmobilers, who rave about the area’s outstanding trail grooming.

Many snowmobilers find that Day Trips are easy from Rhinelander and can be planned to all area’s of the Northwoods and into the Upper Peninsula. These trails will connect you to Minocqua and Eagle River, the Oneida County Forest Trails, Pelican Lake, Crandon, and Elcho, as well as the splender of the Nicolet National Forest.

When it comes to dining, Rhinelander knows how to eat! We offer full-menu supper clubs, all-you-can-eat buffets, “beer and burgers” places, fast food restaurants, and a gamut of other tongue tempting delights. Our nightlife offers live music at several locations, a variety of special wintertime events, and at least one karaoke contest a night, where you can break out the microphone and strut yout stuff.

We leave the welcome mat out for you! Our lodging offers the rest you need after a long day of hitting the trails. Whether you are looking for rustic woodland cottages, modern motels, or national-chain hotels, you’ll find it at Rhinelander. Many are located right on the trails.

So when you are planning that next snowmobile safari, consider Rhinelander, the Home of the Hodag. What’s a Hodag? Come visit and find out!

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Pumice
Chakra: higher heart (thymus)
Pumice is a powerful healer in certain situations. Placed over the thymus, it
releases old pain held in the heart and gut, and heals longstanding emotional
wounds and reprogram emotional cellular memory. Pumice can be used after
treatment to cleanse negative energy from the therapist

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It is no surprise that scalar energy is evidenced in VOLCANIC PUMICE. What is going on here? On Planet Earth right now, we are being literally grounded (stopped in our tracks) by VOLCANIC ASH from Icelandic volcanic eruptions, and Iceland is indeed acting as our birth mother and midwife. Her gentle feminine energy is pulsing through the very core of the planet and breathing out clouds of FAIRY DUST! In the fusion of glacial melt water and volcanic ash, the creation is of fine particles of scalar wave energy. On the gentle breath of the Earth as she breathes in and out, is the mist of creation. New creation. There is not an atom of life in this space time reality we call Earth that will be untouched by this amazing energy because everything on the planet including the planet herself is experiencing shifting and changing processes. When a system or belief no longer serves the Higher Purpose, it (as with all things) has a shelf life. Although all is eternal, the way in which energy performs and processes itself is mutable. In other words, when an energy form has come to the end of its purpose – to cause contrast either for the positive or the negative, it is ready to be recycled (that is the simple way of putting it!)​

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The Eleusinian Mysteries are believed to be of considerable antiquity, deriving from religious practice of the Mycenaean period and thus predating the Greek Dark Ages. Comparative study shows parallels between these Greek rituals and similar systems — some of them older — in the Near East. These cults are the mysteries of Isis and Osiris in Egypt, the Adoniac of Syrian cults, the Persian mysteries, and the Phrygian Cabirian mysteries. Some scholars argued that the Eleusinian cult was a continuation of a Minoan cult, probably affected by the Near East.

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Jason (ocean59) said:

This may simply be a series of coincidences, but I was searching about this also yesterday and came across an interesting link: _http://www.extension.umn.edu/forages/pdfs/the_history_of_grimm_alfalfa.pdf

This is the story of the Grimm family, who emigrated to America via a small town in Germany near the Rhine river. The father snuck with his baggage 20 pounds of prized alfalfa seed. Upon arrival, he purchased a farm in Minnesota and planted the seed. The winter was very harsh - most of his prized treasure succumbed to the cold weather, and he delicately cared for and continued to breed the remaining crops that survived.

Long story short (and they do tell a very long and detailed story) - it was the best alfalfa ever, and spread all across North America. It could survive temperatures colder than all other traditional seeds due to its selective breeding, and supposedly most alfalfa on the continent today descends from this guy and his seed from Germany. When others crops failed completely, this guy still pulled plenty, and of higher quality.

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axj said:

Maybe "tracks well worn" refers literally to an ancient road in Rhineland. There were several Roman roads along the southern Rhine and in Rhineland:

_http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Agri_decumates_Karte.png&filetimestamp=20110902005151

Also, regarding "tracks well worn" in Rhineland, the coat of arms of Mainz (the biggest city in Rhineland) consists of two silver wheels connected by a silver cross:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_of_Mainz

Mainz derives its name from the Roman base of Castrum Moguntiacum, which was probably named after the Celtic god "Mogons" (the "mighty"), which was worshipped by the Roman soldiers stationed there.

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