Ketogenic Diet - Powerful Dietary Strategy for Certain Conditions

Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

obyvatel said:
So this gene which helps people convert plant based EFAs also causes cellular inflammation which is linked to be the root cause of all these diseases mentioned. Yet it is interpreted to be a desirable thing that allowed "the great expansion" to happen. The "great expansion" could simply have been people moving to survive in an environment which could no longer support their previous lifestyle - osit.

Yeah, It is also interesting that concentrations of plant microRNA can be found in samples of human tissues of Chinese men and women whose main diet was rice. In "Exogenous plant MIR168a specifically targets mammalian LDLRAP1: evidence of cross-kingdom regulation by microRNA", they saw that plant microRNAs in food can regulate how certain human genes are expressed.

When genes code for proteins, they start with the DNA which serves as the template for printing out what is called as messenger RNA (mRNA) which will hold the instructions to make the protein. The microRNAs are tiny pieces of RNA which will attach to protein-making messenger RNA, stopping them from being read and therefore blocking the production of that protein. In short, microRNAs silence the genes they are associated with.

We eat a specific plant’s information. We eat information, we are what we eat. And we will do us a great favor to eat the right information.

It is really very important to give ourselves the chance to effect epigenetic changes through a diet in which humanity thrived for most of its history. We can “control” our genome through our food rather than being controlled by it.

As outstanding as the DNA blueprints stored in the nucleus of the cells are, they still don’t control us as we have seen. Our 50,000,000,000,000 or so cells are coated in fatty cell membranes –which happen to be the interface between the cell and the environment. As biologist Bruce Lipton, PhD explains, information from the environment is transferred to the cell via the cell membrane. The cell membrane (“mem-brain”) monitors the condition of the environment and then sends signals to the genes inside the cell so they can engage cellular mechanisms, which in turn, provide for its survival.

Another important aspect to consider is that our genes live inside the cells, and the nutrients that best protect them from undesirable effects are those who are able to cross the fatty cell membrane that encloses the cell, that is, fat soluble nutrients in animal foods.

The majority of the genome (98%) consists of DNA which was considered to be junk because it didn’t encoded protein. In fact, it is called non-coding DNA. But nowadays it is known that this “junk” DNA is very functional, it acts like genetic switches that regulate when and where genes are expressed.

We are told that a person’s DNA is about 99%-99.5% identical to any other person’s DNA and our differences relies on what is called copy number variants – places in the DNA where the number of copies of a gene can vary from one to many hundreds. Copy number variations took place over a million years ago, others a few thousand years ago. Another way in which we can differ to each other is what is called single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) – a location on the DNA where one of the four nucleotides (whose pairing constitute the base pairs) has been replaced by another. Two people can differ for about 3 million SNPs, which is about 0.1% of their total DNA.

This teensy percentage may account for a lot of differences between each one of us, including the way we tolerate carbohydrates. But experiments which severely restrict carbs point to a consistent shift in our metabolism with little variability. That is, we are hardwired to respond to carbohydrate restriction in a reliable and healthy way. From a genetic point of view, our ability to thrive under a low carb diet is highly conserved as opposed to our ability to tolerate a high carb diet intake. Low carb eating seems to be the normal metabolic state associated with health, which is consistent with the view that throughout most of our human evolution, we thrived under a low carb diet.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

A possible additional reason for increasing salt in the diet:

A solution to reducing inflammation

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/251505-A-solution-to-reducing-inflammation

That is so interesting! All this anti-salt madness is as crazy as the anti-fat madness. It is precisely the two things that are so healthy!

Salt has anti-inflammatory effects since it is a natural anti-histaminic, which is why it is recommended for sinus congestion.

How about the adrenal fatigue epidemic where people crave salt since the adrenals are responsible for releasing a hormone related with salt and water. In adrenal fatigue, more sodium is lost than usual, leading to drops in blood pressure, tiredness and lots of salt craving. It is a crime to deprive a person with adrenal fatigue of salt. Of its salary!

And how many emergency treatments involves some kind of IV saline solution? Basically ALL of them!
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

MK Scarlett said:
To come back on the subject on the Lardo di Colonnata shared by Psyche here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368309.html#msg368309 and as I had suggested we could try to make it by ourself, here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368704.html#msg368704, I did it on yesterday and hereafter how I proceed:

Oh, that looks so good! I'll try it when it gets colder, then I'll use the terrace as a freezer :P

I also want to try the slavic version which is basically mostly lard.
 
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treesparrow said:
I suffer from ankylosing spondylitis (thank god for the spell checker) with associated osteoporosis and fusion of the vertebra with restricted movement of head ,neck and torso with arthritis in other joints and although I've gained some movement in some of my knuckles, I've yet to to seen any improvement in my back since starting the KD about 18 moths ago. Perhaps with zero carbs my situation will improve. I sometimes think that the best I can hope for is that my condition stabilizes and does not further deteriorate.

Treesparrow, I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you do any mobility exercises? If not, I would highly recommend you to try some. I don't know who you have already seen for your condition, and maybe I'm repeating something that you already know, but a major factor in preventing further gradual fusion of your vertebrae (caused by ankylosing spondylitis (SA)) is to literally: move. Resistance training is important, but for your condition it needs to be controlled and always balanced with plenty of mobility. Mobility exercises are important for mostly everyone, strength without any mobility can turn into stiffness, and mobility without strength can become floppiness.
With SA, however, the scale tips to the side of becoming increasingly stiff due to the gradual fusion of the spine. This causes for your muscles to become equally stiff, the rigidity of your muscles further compromises your ability to move freely and, with that, allowing for the skeletal fusion to happen at a much greater speed. It's a true snowball effect.

You probably know this much better than me, but I'm putting it this way to better convey the reason and importance of the type of exercise I'm suggesting.

I don't know whether with that you can actually reverse some of SA, I know that it can reverse, up to a certain degree, arthritis, and it can certainly be very helpful in preventing further degeneration by SA. My guess is that you can gain a lot more freedom to move because some of the stiffness you feel with SA is muscular and, perhaps, that may start "oiling" your joints?

You may have to fight against pain though, it is about constantly finding a new pain threshold, which with more regular practice your brain can actually start equating with relief, as it anticipates the way you'll feel afterwards.

Maybe you're doing all of this already, but if not, I think it's really worth a try. As someone who has had clients with SA and other similar conditions, I have seen little miracles :)
I sure wish MUCH more could be done for the absolutely staggering amount of 'strange' conditions we are suffering from nowadays.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

Laura said:
treesparrow said:
My supplements at this point are 6 codliver oil and 6 fish oil capsules a days - each a 1000 milligrams (as well as magnesium and a cup of salted water). Would this amount of fish oils count as part of the fat intake allowance?

It's not so much fat, but it will count some. I would try reducing to just the three fish oil for a bit and see how that goes.

Not directly related to the question, but since you mentioned cod and fish oil, it reminds me that I have been taking both in liquid form as they tend to be more concentrated this way, and you don't have to absorb the capsule. A tea spoon can equate to several capsules.

I have recently found Green Pasture's fermented cod liver oil (_http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Home/index.cfm) in which, according to them, vitamins are kept in their original state since the oil isn't heated as common highly industrialized versions. The high temperatures deplete the oil of its vitamins, which are then added back synthetically. This can potentially corrupt the fine balance between its vitamins and how how much you have of each. From my research, it is this fine balance that prevents toxicity by excess of a nutrient.

Well, this is all fine and dandy, but I'm only on my first bottle of this particular brand. I do feel great right now, having finally won over an illness that lasted for two months, but that's probably coincidence.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

Laura said:
Megan said:
I used all those things when I was first adapting, last summer. That was a different "gurgle," higher up. The symptoms now seem to be coming from my colon.

Prolly 'cause you're not at zero. You really do have to go zero for a few weeks to kill the buggers off and then you have to be darned careful not to re-introduce them for awhile. And I can tell you, if you give them a lettuce leaf once a day, they will hang on...

I will try it again when I am feeling better, and see if I can't go much longer. Right now I am fighting off something, cycling between normal and fever/fatigue (no chills). The runny nose and sinus headache have settled down. I am taking vitamin C and NAC, and drinking herb teas for the sinuses (including mint!). Eating warm meat with broth helps drain the sinuses too. There's lots of detox going on, I would think, and I don't want to risk adding constipation to the mix.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

MK Scarlett said:
To come back on the subject on the Lardo di Colonnata shared by Psyche here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368309.html#msg368309 and as I had suggested we could try to make it by ourself, here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368704.html#msg368704, I did it on yesterday and hereafter how I proceed:

I bought two big parts of lard to my butcher, cut one in two and let the other one entire, to see how work different sizes. It does not look really the same piece of pork than for the Lardo di Colonnata, I will try to get a similar one on the next time.

STEP 1
One of the big piece cut in 2:

That is not lard, that is pork belly, you are making bacon
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

MK Scarlett said:
STEP 5
Get out the piece of meat from Salt after less than 24 jours (with pork too much time will give you a too salted piece of meat), and then rinse it under some water and wipe with an absorbing paper sheet (note how the color already changed):

Hi MK Scarlett,

Thanks for sharing, just a few (newby) questions though:

- With less than 24 jours, you mean ''less than 24 days" right?
- Is it necessary for the tissue to touch the meat, as an extra compress? Or is it just to cover the whole thing, so that as you said, insects won't be able to get in it?
- Basically when you're done, you can just eat it like that without cooking it?

I'm going to try this as well during the winter using lard or some other fat :)
 
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Megan said:
I suppose you tried HCl, digestive enzymes and/or the sluggish liver protocol? Sometimes I get the impression that you have a lack of stomach acidity or not enough digestive enzymes. Like having a slow digestive system.

I used to get bloated all the time and still do if I eat more than my fair share. But resistance training and intermittent fasting seems to be the ticket to reset my digestive system.

I used all those things when I was first adapting, last summer. That was a different "gurgle," higher up. The symptoms now seem to be coming from my colon.

I wouldn't give up on them, at least the digestive enzymes and HCl. Sometimes things seem to be fine, until all the undigested food reaches the colon and then it is big party time for fermentation to occur.

Just a thought. My digestive system is also like my Achilles heel and I even have to be careful not to overdo the broth as it bloats me if I have too much. I'm trying to focus on fat-packed meals like super-fatty pork chops to satiate me, then I can distribute my protein intake and my broth more evenly throughout the day.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

Goemon_ said:
MK Scarlett said:
To come back on the subject on the Lardo di Colonnata shared by Psyche here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368309.html#msg368309 and as I had suggested we could try to make it by ourself, here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28799.msg368704.html#msg368704, I did it on yesterday and hereafter how I proceed:

I bought two big parts of lard to my butcher, cut one in two and let the other one entire, to see how work different sizes. It does not look really the same piece of pork than for the Lardo di Colonnata, I will try to get a similar one on the next time.

STEP 1
One of the big piece cut in 2:

That is not lard, that is pork belly, you are making bacon


In France, we call this piece of pork (previous pic), lard (or and you're right after some researchs "pork belly").

Bacon (for France) is as this:


As it is tranformed I do not want to buy it.

So I guess "lard" here mean fat of pork... Am I right?
I buy this "fat" to my butcher and started to make reserves of it as of fat of duck. I use it for my bone broths and to cooke "pork belly" each morning with it and eat it too. But I would be very interested by making my own "fat pork" if I could. Have you got any suggestion, or maybe this has already been mentionned here or there on the forum?

By the way, salting these kind of piece of pork offers the possibility to eat some proteines and more fat in the same time by adding it with pure "fat of pork", like "butter a sandwich of bread". ;)
 
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Oxajil said:
MK Scarlett said:
STEP 5
Get out the piece of meat from Salt after less than 24 jours (with pork too much time will give you a too salted piece of meat), and then rinse it under some water and wipe with an absorbing paper sheet (note how the color already changed):

Hi MK Scarlett,

Thanks for sharing, just a few (newby) questions though:
- With less than 24 jours, you mean ''less than 24 days" right?

No, it is NOT for 24 days! How could I make a mistake as this one? :shock: It is less than 24 hours...

Oxajil said:
- Is it necessary for the tissue to touch the meat, as an extra compress? Or is it just to cover the whole thing, so that as you said, insects won't be able to get in it?

The tissue can touch the meat it does no matter. About extra compress, it would be to let it dry outside the refrigerator and it can touch it too.

Oxajil said:
- Basically when you're done, you can just eat it like that without cooking it?

Yes, absolutely! No cooking needed! This is why it is a very good way to keep meat and fat meat for a while (several weeks) in case of we would not be able to "cooke" with gaz or electricity. The meat will be cold, it is true, but the salting "cook" it in fact. As some ham of Bayonne for exemple.

Oxajil said:
I'm going to try this as well during the winter using lard or some other fat :)

Enjoy it Oxajil, and many thanks for helping me to see my mistake. ;)
I gonna edit the previous post to correct it with the mention why I do it.
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

MK Scarlett said:
In France, we call this piece of pork (previous pic), lard (or and you're right after some researchs "pork belly").

Or poitrine fumée (smoked pig breast) or lard fumé. Lard/poitrine fumé(e) in France is basically "bacon" in the English world.

So I guess "lard" here mean fat of pork... Am I right?

Yeah… I believe it's called saindoux in French. You can make saindoux from "lard gras" that you can get from the butcher: _http://naniskitchen.over-blog.com/article-saindoux-65306655.html
 
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Adaryn said:
MK Scarlett said:
In France, we call this piece of pork (previous pic), lard (or and you're right after some researchs "pork belly").

Or poitrine fumée (smoked pig breast) or lard fumé. Lard/poitrine fumé(e) in France is basically "bacon" in the English world.

Yes but this is not "smoked pork belly" (poitrine fumé) because if you look at stick on the "smoked pork belly" bought at your butcher (and I even do not talk about the one bought in supermarket and I asked my butcher to show me), you will see there add a lot of bad ingredients inside.
The piece of work I used here is pork belly "not smoked". The meat is raw. I only buy raw meat and make my own food with them. Nothing already transformed comes home.

Adaryn said:
So I guess "lard" here mean fat of pork... Am I right?

Yeah… I believe it's called saindoux in French. You can make saindoux from "lard gras" that you can get from the butcher: _http://naniskitchen.over-blog.com/article-saindoux-65306655.html

Yes, saindoux, it is right. As said previously, I buy it at my butcher. :D
And thanks for the link, I gonna read it! ;)


Edit: Thanks to Adaryn link
 
Re: Ketogenic Diet - Path To Transformation?

MK Scarlett said:
...
So I guess "lard" here mean fat of pork... Am I right?
I buy this "fat" to my butcher and started to make reserves of it as of fat of duck. I use it for my bone broths and to cooke "pork belly" each morning with it and eat it too. But I would be very interested by making my own "fat pork" if I could. Have you got any suggestion, or maybe this has already been mentionned here or there on the forum?

By the way, salting these kind of piece of pork offers the possibility to eat some proteines and more fat in the same time by adding it with pure "fat of pork", like "butter a sandwich of bread". ;)
What you posted in the picture is pork belly, as you've now discovered. Making cured pork, was mentioned in the link provided by Psyche. From recollection it is cured over a period of six months, certainly that is the period that is mentioned by a butcher that I've spoken to. In fact, I may commission him to produce some, in a paleo manner, and see what it's like.

In it's cured form it is quite firm, yet easily cut with a sharp knife. I tend to fry it with my breakfast sausage pattie. Delicious. :) And, if you want, you may eat it 'raw', although it's a bit 'chewie'. :)
 
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Psyche said:
...I wouldn't give up on them, at least the digestive enzymes and HCl. Sometimes things seem to be fine, until all the undigested food reaches the colon and then it is big party time for fermentation to occur.

Just a thought. My digestive system is also like my Achilles heel and I even have to be careful not to overdo the broth as it bloats me if I have too much. I'm trying to focus on fat-packed meals like super-fatty pork chops to satiate me, then I can distribute my protein intake and my broth more evenly throughout the day.

Thanks, that is a good point. It had crossed my mind, from all the earlier reading, but at the same time I am trying to eliminate unnecessary supplements, both because of the cost and because some of them may not be so healthy. The HCl should be safe, though. I have not noticed where the digestive enzymes have ever made any difference.

My appetite is signaling "enough fat, already." I'm not sure what that is all about. The pork I can buy here is not factory-grown in small cages, but it is not pastured either. It helps me to limit pork to just bacon in the morning, with the rest of my protein coming from beef, lamb, and bison. I can still find fatty pork roasts in the store (but not fatty pork chops), but they just aren't as satisfying for some reason.
 
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