Borax-boron how to detox and heal yourself inexpensively / Arthritis

treesparrow said:
I've just ordered some DMSO and bought glucosamine sulphate for my osteo-arthritis. I've also just recently started taking DMSA for heavy metal detoxing. I was wondering can the both be taken together? I read somewhere to ease up or stop taking other supplements when taking DMSA. If this is the best course of action which one (DMSO or DMSA) should I start taking first? Can anyone please advise?

FWIW:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=16812.msg148970#msg148970
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=16812.msg147217#msg147217

But do read Sidney Baker's Detoxification and Healing, it will help you make better choices for your health :)

You can use the DMSO topically as well, in trouble areas.
 
Thanks for your very prompt reply Psyche :)

I recently read Baker's book and found it quite dense and technical in parts - I'll just have to read it again.
 
I got linked to a very informative article online today concerning the many biochemical roles of potassium (which, by the way, can’t be absorbed into our cells without the help of that other biochemical superstar, magnesium).

The author, Charles Weber, has a degree in chemistry and a master of science degree in soil science. He has researched this subject for more than 40 years, primarily library research. He claims to have cured his own early onset of rheumatoid arthritis. He has published articles on allied subjects in; The Journal of Theoretical Biology (1970, 1983), The Journal of Applied Nutrition (1974) which gained the best article of the year award, Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology (1983), and Medical Hypotheses (1984, 1999, 2007, 2008)

The article’s title implies it’s limited to the narrow topic of treating arthritis, but the author touches on a multitude of health and diet issues, and includes many references (listed and hyperlinked throughout his material).

Here is the link followed by some excerpts:

_http://charles_w.tripod.com/arthritis.html

“No illness that can be treated by diet should be treated by any other means" – a 12th century physician

"If we could give every individual the right amount of nourishment and exercise, not too little and not too much, we would have found the safest way to health." – Hippocrates (460 – 377 BC)

Medications are not a satisfactory substitute for food, indeed are usually harmful.


Short-term studies may give rise to false expectations, and that radiological and laboratory values are overemphasized at the expense of long-term outcomes like functional status and death.

[I don't know if he's being sarcastic or not, but I think that's an hilarious "forest / trees" comment. It reminds me of once, while hospitalized, I was given an injection which made my lungs feel paralyzed. In an escalating panic, I gasped desperately to the nurse "I...can't...breathe!" She looked at some monitor above my head and curtly told me, "you're breathing" and walked off!]


There have been effective treatments rejected in the past solely because they did not conform to mistaken accepted hypotheses.

It is my belief that a diet high in fresh (i.e. unprocessed, unfrozen and uncanned) vegetables would keep a large majority of people reasonably healthy and without the need for fad diets. The World Health Organization of the UN agrees with this, and maintains that the majority of deaths are from nutrition preventable chronic diseases.

I would suggest that a partial solution to the problem of poor potassium nutrition would be to place a tax on all food that has had potassium or magnesium removed by food processors and completely fund all Medicare, Medicaid, and workman’s compensation for injuries and disease that relate to rheumatoid arthritis, heart disease, and high blood pressure. This would also take the onerous tax burden now incurred for them and place it on the shoulders of those who cause the problem.

And this tax burden is not the only burden. Half the bankruptcies in the USA are caused by medical bills.

Achieving this would be much more likely if the money was removed from politics and there were runoff elections. If you click on the logo below [_http://www.peaceteam.net/bumper_stickers.php] you can get a free bumper sticker that urges impeachment of the supreme court justices who ruled that corporations can buy elections. [it reads, “CORPORATIONS ARE NOTTHE PEOPLE” No donation is necessary if you enter $0.00.

Michael Jacobson and Kelly Brownell of the Center for Science in the Public Interest have proposed a small tax on soft drinks and candy to finance public nutrition education.

The Health Freedom Foundation is currently attempting to solve the problem by lobbying government legislatures to change the laws and agencies’ organization.

[My personal favorite – LOL] Another idea to help the nutrition of our society by Dan O’Keefe is to require all supermarkets to tell a shopper which brands should not be eaten for each of the degenerative diseases (for instance food containing sulfite not to be eaten by those suffering from beri-beri caused heart disease).

It took 150 years for the medical profession to accept cod liver oil for use against rickets, almost that long to adopt penicillin, and 2500 years to abandon blood letting. Let us hope that we do not have to wait that long before they accept [potassium and magnesium] as essential for health.
 
I had never heard of Cetyl Myristoleate until I read this thread just now and I am surprised that my rheumatologist never mentioned it to me. The last time I saw him he suggested that I might have RA. He recommends taking Bromelain and Turmeric supplements to help reduce the inflammation. I looked more into Cetyl Myristoleate online and decided to order some too!! I am also going to try detoxing, which will be a first for me. Right now I'm reading The UltraSimple Diet and plan to start there. Thanks SO MUCH for this post and I hope it works for us!!
 
Update: I have been taking 550mg of Cetyl Myristoleate for about a month now and have not noticed any side effects. I saw my rheumatologist yesterday for a check up. As usual all the blood tests were normal, but for the first time since I have been seeing him (I started visiting his office in April 2009) he reported
 
Oh dear, I just accidentally hit a key on my keyboard and it submitted my post before I could finish it! I was trying to write that my rheumatologist reported that I have no inflammation in the joints in my hands and feet!! :D I got very excited, but he clarified that he can only test it on the macroscopic level, not the microscopic level. This is still very exciting news! I told him I was taking Cetyl Myristoleate and he told me I was wasting my money, because there has not been enough evidence gathered yet to show its benefits. He instructed me to continue taking the 1000mg of Naproxen and 200mg of Hydroxychloroquine daily that he prescribed and that if my joints are still this way in 8 weeks he promises to take me off of something. I have been taking these amounts of Naproxen and Hydroxychloroquine daily since November of last year and have only noticed some improvement in the number and severity of the inflamed joints. I don't think I'll be stopping the Cetyl Myristoleate any time soon. On a side note, he also told me I was wasting my money on the 5HTP even though I told him I felt better. He told me to stop taking that supplement too. :umm:
 
The main thing that I have found that eliminates my RA pain is avoiding wheat and dairy, lectins and nightshades. I think the CM helped, and definitely the 5-htp helps because it helps with my sleep. If I don't sleep well, the pain returns. You might definitely want to read the threads about gluten and dairy because those two are the WORST offenders. If I have even a teaspoon of milk in something I eat, within hours my knees blow out, my hips lock up and my fingers swell.
 
Another thing that people who have chronic pain may want to research is the Borrelia bacteria and the many odd symptoms associated with that.

I suffered with "chronic fatigue syndrome" for years and was told repeatedly that there was no cure. I did three rounds of antibiotics in the beginning and that did absolutely nothing, there was no improvement whats so ever.

After doing some research on CFS it seemed to point to chronic Lyme disease.

I was told that LD is cause by the bite of a certain tick, but further research indicated that the bites of flees, mosquito`s, common house flies, etc, can all transmit this Borrelia bacteria.

I decided to experiment on myself and used an herbal tincture of Teasel, followed by another herbal tincture under the brand name of "Samento".

After only 3 days on the Teasel I found that I could make a fist with my left hand without the usual pain.
A few days later my ankles and heels didn`t hurt when I walked. So it does seem to have an almost immediate effect on the pain aspect of it. The Samento is a little more difficult to take, you have to drinks lots and lots of water with this one, but it is said to kill off the bacteria that causes the Lyme Disease. I don`t know if it has actually done this or not because I have not been tested again, but I can say the pain and a lot of the "fatigue" has subsided, though I do continue to experience pain in my long bones during exertion, and particularly in the long muscles between my elbow and shoulder.

I am following the "no wheat" diet as well, and think this has made a huge difference in the pain levels as well.



"Lyme disease (LD) is a seriously complex multi-system inflammatory disease that is triggered by the bacterial lipoproteins (BLPs) produced by the spiral-shaped bacteria called Borrelia. Borrelia are difficult to isolate, grow, and study in the laboratory. So, our technical knowledge of this pathogen is poor compared to our understanding of most bacteria that cause disease. Transmission of Borrelia occurs primarily through the bite of ticks. The disease affects every tissue and every major organ system in the body. Clinically, it can appear as a chronic arthalgia (joint pain), fibromyalgia (fibrous connective tissue and muscle pain), chronic fatigue, immune dysfunction and as neurological disease. LD may even be fatal in severe cases.

The diagnosis of Lyme disease is primary based upon clinical evidence. There is currently no laboratory test that is definitive for Lyme disease. Many tests give false negative results. Physicians not familiar with the complex clinical presentation of Lyme disease frequently misdiagnose it as other disorders such as: Fibromyalgia or Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS), Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Motor Neuron Disease (ALS, Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis -Lou Gherig's disease), Multiple Chemical Sensitivity Syndrome (MCS) and numerous other psychiatric disorders such as depression and anxiety.

Lyme disease is a familiar name to most people, but their knowledge of it is very limited. Unfortunately, this is also true for most professionals in the medical community. There have been numerous reports in the media about it in the United States over the past 25 years. These superficial articles report something about small deer ticks transmitting bacteria called Borrelia burgdorferi. The tick vectors are said to be mainly restricted to certain endemic areas of the United States, which are the Northeast and the upper Midwest. Frequently mentioned is the bulls-eye skin rash that develops following the bite of an infected tick. The disease is reported to begin with flu-like symptoms that progress to an arthritic and fibromyalgic condition. It is often said that Lyme disease can be readily treated with standard regimens of antibiotics. While these reports are partially true, they are also critically erroneous and very misleading!

This report is an urgent warning for everyone. Lyme disease is devastating the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals and we are all at risk. Many patients are suffering with chronic Lyme disease and continue to be misdiagnosed and mistreated. In many cases of Lyme disease, a correct diagnosis doesn’t occur until after several months or more often many years of suffering with the disease. By then it has caused severe illness, disability and permanent damage. The disease is widespread and the prevalence is significantly higher than reported by health officials.

It is very unfortunate that most physicians don’t know how to recognize and treat cases of Lyme disease, especially the illusive cases of chronic Lyme disease. I’m not just talking about general MDs being ignorant; I am also referring to specialists such as: rheumatologists, neurologists, orthopedic surgeons, cardiologists, psychiatrists, and the most ignorant actually seem to be infectious disease specialists. I was extremely surprised by this plague of ignorance after I began my investigation of Lyme disease.

There are some key factors that exist in the medical community regarding Lyme disease; they go a long way in explaining why LD is often misdiagnosed and mistreated:

http://autoimmunityresearch.org/lyme-disease/
 
Wow, those reactions to milk sound horrific, Laura! Yeah, I had rice pudding a couple weeks ago thinking that a little wouldn't hurt (one of my darker "I's" told me so :P) and within hours my knuckles were covered with eczema and itching too. I decided that was enough for me and I have been attempting to exclude dairy 100% since then. Ninety-five percent just doesn't cut it. I plan to read more up on wheat, lectins and nightshades too so thanks for the tip!

Also, thanks Meager1 for posting this information on Borrelia bacteria and Lyme disease. It is so nice that you found this information and were able to treat yourself effectively. When consulting doctors I always keep in mind that none of them will care about my health as much as I do.

It's also good to know that you are off of wheat as well and also noticing a difference in the pain levels. I have been doing a good job of cutting gluten and wheat out of my diet and maybe that is part of the reason I have been feeling better too! Right now I am following the Ultra Simple Diet, but before I started it I was enjoying rice bread and rice tortillas that are gluten and wheat free. One of these days I'm going to start making foods with buckwheat, but that will have to come later.

Well, after discussing what my doctor said with numerous people I decided to cut CM out of my supplements for the next 8 weeks just to see what it does. If any of my joints are inflamed when I see my doctor next I will be right back into the CM!! I will also post an update on here at that time so you can know the results of his examination.

Thank you very much again for your input and happy learning! :)
 
Scientists have discovered that cod liver oil can repair arthritic joints as well as lubricating healthy ones.

They say Granny really did know best when she insisted on a daily dose, because it halts the inflammation and destruction of joint cartilage caused by arthritis.

And they believe supplements could help thousands of patients waiting in agony for hip and knee replacements by beginning a reversal of the degenerative process.

More than two million people in Britain have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis.

The researchers, at Cardiff University, say there are scientific reasons for the long-held belief that cod liver oil is good for joint health. Professor Bruce Caterson, who presented his findings in London yesterday, said it was never too late to start repairing the damage caused by arthritis.

'Cod liver oil can be very helpful and beneficial in arthritic diseases,' he said.

'We've been able to show that we can slow down or remove the activities of the enzymes that degrade cartilage in arthritis and also keep inflammation down to a lower level.'

The latest research shows the importance to joint health of essential fatty acids - called Omega-3 fatty acids - contained in cod liver oil and other fish oils.

These are incorporated by the body into the cartilage cells damaged in arthritis sufferers.

Cartilage is the protective material that covers bones around the joints to stop them grating.

The scientists tested the effect of Omega-3 fatty acids on the cartilage from the discarded arthritic knees of patients who had had knee replacements.

Some samples were treated with the substance for 24 hours, while others were not.

A chemical was added to mimic an inflammatory response.

When researchers looked at the untreated cartilage they found enzymes responsible for destroying it.

But in the samples treated with Omega-3 fatty acids the enzymes had been 'switched off'.

Fergus Logan, chief executive of the Arthritis Research Campaign, which partly funded the research, said: 'These findings are extremely exciting and offer a scientific basis for why cod liver oil helps people with arthritis - and has done for many years.'

_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-100577/A-daily-dose-cod-liver-oil-helps-cure-arthritis.html

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I currently take a tablespoonful of cod liver oil everyday for omega-3, which according the advice on the bottle is the daily recommended dose. On the Vegetarian Myth thread I think it was mentioned that the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 should ideally be about 1:1. With the increase in eggs, animal meat and fat (and therefore more omega-6), I'm consuming I'm wonder if I should also increase the amount of CLO I'm taking. Is one tablespoonful really still sufficient? (Was it really ever enough in the first place?) Can anyone advise please?
 
wmu9 said:
Is cod liver oil the same/similar as the "fish oil" tablets available?

It can be. CLO can be the form of a liquid that you take a tablespoon of, or a large gel pill.
 
Hello Everyone!

My mother Karen has been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, For those of you who dont know rheumatoid arthritis is an auto immune disease which its cause is said to be linked to your standard modern day diet.

I have assisted her by providing plenty of detailed information regarding Lectins & diet information to help heal this ugly disease. eg Fish oil, Glucosamine & Condrotin, Shark Cartlige and am now looking at SAMe. Not to mention a complete diet change (but its not something I am going to rush her into doing)

I have done some research and found many studies on it effectiveness on osteoarthritus & rheumatiod arthritis but am still not really sure I should be feeding this to my mother. Doctors currently have her on steroids which cause some truly horrible long term damage. Now they want her off the prednisolone and want to give her medication that they give to suffering cancer patients and I simply will do anything in my power to assure this doesn't happen. Please see links at bottom of page.

As I believe I am on the right track from all the information I have gathered from here and elsewhere I am keeping an open mind to the possiblity my judgement may be emotionally clouded and would appreciate If anybody here has some advice or links for me to follow, all help in this matter will be greatly appreciated. I really dont want to jump into anything without thoroughly researching it. My mother is placing alot of trust in me here so the pressure is on.

_http://www.arthritistoday.org/treatments/supplement-guide/supplements/sam-e.php

The most helpful of website which has links to studies.

_http://www.livestrong.com/article/444534-sam-e-rheumatoid-arthritis/
 
I have a friend with severe RA - she was on crutches as recently as a year and a half ago. She is now completely medication free with almost zero symptoms (just occasional stiffness on some mornings) and she did it all with diet change. She is now on the low carb paloe-diet (no gluten, no sugar, no dairy, very low carbs) with a few of the core supplements we discuss here and an occasional FAR infrared sauna and she's doing fantastically.

In other words: diet diet diet diet. Period.
 
As a long-term sufferer of RA, I can say that the ONLY thing that has ever worked has been diet. And remember, I've had a lot of cortisone injections into joints and surgery... You have to get completely clear and watch what you eat like a hawk. The safest thing to do is just meat, fat, a few selected veggies like sweet potatoes and occasional green beans. It can take up to two years to heal the leaky gut that is strongly implicated in the RA symptoms so that you are able to eat some things like eggs and and one or two nuts. And no nightshades, EVER.
 
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