Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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Siberia said:
Here is my translation of the article from www.discred.ru, as I've mentioned above. Maybe it could be posted on SoTT?

Done: http://www.sott.net/article/278697-Political-judo-Putin-did-not-surrender-or-betray-South-East-nor-is-he-scared

Thanks for the translation!
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Siberia said:
Here is my translation of the article from www.discred.ru, as I've mentioned above. Maybe it could be posted on SoTT?

Done: http://www.sott.net/article/278697-Political-judo-Putin-did-not-surrender-or-betray-South-East-nor-is-he-scared

Thanks for the translation!

Thank you!

Aragorn said:
Thanks, Siberia, good compilations. Having watched many videos about the thing, it's shocking to notice how many of the most violent "nazis" are very young people. Teenagers who seem to enjoy beating up, and even killing people. I'm sure there has been some "grassroot" activities for long, encouraged by Washington, to brainwash these youngsters.

Yes, Aragorn, this is the most worrying thing in this whole situation: the increasing number of violent youngsters not only in Ukraine, but all over the globe, it seems (some football fans, for example). They are like zombies: chanting their creepy chants, jumping like gorillas, spreading violence. Most of them are grug and/or alcohol abusers.
 
Paddyjohn said:
This, to me, exemplifies the madness, and unfathomability, of human life. Against the background of what is happening in Ukraine, and in particular what happened recently in Odessa, a football match took place today.

Din. Kiev4 - 0 Ch. Odessa
Or does it show the indomitable human spirit?

there in Odessa for several days are punitive battalions of radicals "Kyiv-1" and "Storm"
 
Siberia said:
PS: I found a picture which seems to perfectly reflect the title of this article :P

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we in runet (Russian-speaking Internet space) has lots of pictures with schizophrenic Obama and Putin every time he gives him quiet rebuff :)

inscriptions on the second picture:
Putin fish like a man. Obama - no words ...
Putin controls his dog without a leash. And Obama's dog walks Obama himself

inscriptions on the third picture:
Russia and the U.S. - 17 years later
 

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Aragorn said:
SeekinTruth said:
Yup, Putin did it again. He out maneuvered the pro-escalation crew and put a very important wedge between EU (particularly Germany) and US. Putin really keeps reminding me of a modern day Caesar. He's not only a master of military war, but an all-around master. AND he cares about regular people's lives....

Yeah, a smart move he did again! He probably anticipated that the anti-Kiev folks wouldn't postpone the referendum, but in this way he was able to show how - contrary to the main steam propaganda - Russia doesn't control or intervene. And by "pulling back the troops" he makes the other side look bad, since they are not stopping the violence. But I guess that the pathological types can't do this kind of peaceful decisions, they just know aggression and bullying.

it is true, May 8, Lugansk and Donetsk responded that respect Putin and discussed with the people of his proposal, but nevertheless will not carry the date of the referendum. night reported that unidentified men broke into polling stations and destroyed one million ballots, but later People's Militia denied this information. people are resolute. civilians continue to be killed, so residents want as soon as possible decoupling situation.
a Scientologist Yatseniuk in arrogant tone responded yesterday to Putin's words to postpone the referendum , and the Russian Foreign Ministry today advised him to stop in a boorish and clumsy wisecrack
:P
 
this video on May 8 in Mariupol junta's warriors guarding captured from the militia City Hall. 30 soldiers there, and everyone is starting to shoot people at his feet, if they begin to approach them. people outraged and shouts obscenities traitors of their own people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvhQRPYPEA
 
Interesting set of "predictions" posted by a FB friend:

http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/2014/lada-ray-01may2014.htm

I normally wouldn't introduce something like this in such a discussion, but this is a very rational piece of work and this lady makes a lot of good points and observations. One thing she does not do is discuss the biggest player of them all: Mother Nature.
 
Laura said:
Interesting set of "predictions" posted by a FB friend:

http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/2014/lada-ray-01may2014.htm

I normally wouldn't introduce something like this in such a discussion, but this is a very rational piece of work and this lady makes a lot of good points and observations. One thing she does not do is discuss the biggest player of them all: Mother Nature.

Indeed quite interesting!

Here is a recent interview with her:


https://youtu.be/BRSWn7PKMrE

She is a linguist and seems to know a lot about Ukraine and Russia. In another interview she explained that she uses a method which she created by herself by using an ancient eastern system/method of predicting stuff. She bases a lot of her predictions on close inspection/following of politics and the bigger picture. So those predictions seem to be largly based on observing reality.

Sounds reasonable to me!

Edit: By the way, I highly recommend to listen to the video interview above! Very educational! She might be an interesting guest for SOTT Radio...
 
More on Lada Ray:
_http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/about/

A word about me: I was born in Russia to a Russian father and Ukrainian mother, and grew up in Odessa, presently Ukraine. Growing up, I observed the collapse of the Soviet Union. I also lived and traveled to nearly 30 countries on most continents, including Cuba, where I interviewed Fidel Castro. By the ripe age of 38, I managed to have 3 successful careers on 3 different continents, first as a linguist and translator, and second as financial consultant with AIG and Smith Barney/Citigroup. I witnessed first hand behind the scenes manipulations at these major financial institutions; I observed how small clients were sacrificed to the interests of large institutional clients, and how derivatives became the buzz word. At some point, I couldn’t stand it any more and quit, and although I felt sorry to leave my clients, I needed to do things that were in line with my spiritual growth and soul development.

I went to Asia, where I studied Feng Shui, becoming one of the first Internationally Certified Western Feng Shui Masters with successful global practice. I was privileged to study various spiritual and metaphysical disciplines, including evolution of consciousness, kinesiology, Zen/Buddhism, face & aura reading, Chinese & Western astrology, and shamanism, with some of the world’s most prominent teachers & visionaries. I also found out that I was a highly developed empath and intellect shifter, and on top of that, that I possessed a gift of clairvoyance/claircognizance. Coupled with my creative, analytical and observant nature, as well as my background, all these gifts allowed me to make predictions, which usually came true. Also an author of several books.

In her blog section, she lists several post's including this most recent one, "Is There Israel and Mossad Involvement in Ukraine?
Some really interesting info there - on who's who and their background.

_http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/


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Exactly. Putin and his close advisers always make moves that make any outcome good for their positions and give others much better options than the roads they've taken, in case they're wise enough to correct their course.
 
Not sure if this has been posted. From _http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/06/banks-close-in-donetsk-a-lesson-for-the-rest-of-us/

What is happening in Donetsk is by the classic book on how to wipe out an economy. The banking system has shut down. The banks simply have said it is too dangerous for their staff to work. The only way to get any money is using a bank card but that will soon run out. Ukraine’s biggest bank, Privatbank, says the situation in the eastern cities of Donetsk and Lugansk has reached a critical point that is too dangerous for staff to go to work. ATM and branch services have been shut down. Elderly who relied upon pensions from the state just do not know what will happen now.
 
l apprenti de forgeron said:
Aragorn said:
Thanks, Siberia, good compilations. Having watched many videos about the thing, it's shocking to notice how many of the most violent "nazis" are very young people. Teenagers who seem to enjoy beating up, and even killing people. I'm sure there has been some "grassroot" activities for long, encouraged by Washington, to brainwash these youngsters.
Yes, thanks Siberia.
They really look very young and very stupid full of adrenaline, ideal for be used by the elite. There are many stereotypes. It seems an identity that emerged from the joint between a strange nationalism and football hooligans. The ponerology already seems to be overly widespread. I draw much attention that they chose a nazi collaborator as a reference. Beyond that there are many truly nazi groups, it is amazing how this is possible knowing the history. It's like a total denial, a authoritarianism that imposed amnesia. Maybe the Ukrainians not had where to go, and resorted to a pro-nazi with the attempt to build their incipient nationalism and positioned against Soviet Russia. Since 1991, with a patient and horrible job in Ukraine, the elite slowly poisoned the people with the american dream, free markets and follow Europe to distance themselves from the hunger of Soviet debacle. But times change, and Russia has also changed.
It appears that still is needed defeat nazism definitely, it was / is not (only) the one of Hitler and gang.

I think " The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind" by Gustave LeBon (see this thread) offers a lot of insights on this phenomenon as well. He goes into detail on how crowds can get hypnotized and basically suspend all their critical thinking in the process, and how this can easily spread. Amazingly interesting read in light of what's going on (not only) in Ukraine...
 
Laura said:
Interesting set of "predictions" posted by a FB friend:

http://www.znakovi-vremena.net/2014/lada-ray-01may2014.htm

I normally wouldn't introduce something like this in such a discussion, but this is a very rational piece of work and this lady makes a lot of good points and observations. One thing she does not do is discuss the biggest player of them all: Mother Nature.

Very interesting. Her predictions and analysis seem spot on.

Regarding natural events - she does mention "the burning house that is Earth" and she also wrote a book called Earth Shifter "which revolves around the Comet of Karma coming to Earth – the book that mainly takes place in Siberia – the meteor incident took place in the Urals, Siberia."

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/predictions/
 
You are here error in the title: Sergey Fursov written, while his name Andrey (Андрей):
http://rusott.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%85%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D1%81/
 
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