Giant new planet or brown dwarf?

[HiThere]

Interesting. Are they preparing us for the revealing of information of a companion star or just giving good ol' misleading information?


_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html

 

[Windmill knight]

Four years and ten months later we get:

Did Astronomers Find a 'Super-Earth' in Our Solar System?

Dec 13th 2015

http://www.weather.com/science/space/news/astronomer-super-earth-solar-system

Astronomers have discovered something in our outer solar system, and it's causing quite the stir in the scientific community.

Using data from the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA) telescope in Chile, astronomers found a faint object in the Alpha Centauri star system that's closest to Earth, Astronomy.com reported. After analyzing the data, the astronomers ruled out that it may be another star. Instead, in their research posted on arXiv, they posit that the object is orbiting our own sun in the outer realm of our solar system – meaning it could be the much sought-after "Planet X."

A 'super-Earth' is a planet with a mass larger than Earth's but smaller than Neptune's. (Wikimedia Commons/Aldaron)
According to Forbes, it's the second time an object has been spotted in the region. "One possibility (and I think the most likely) is that it's an extreme trans-Neptunian object about 100 astronomical units (AU) away from the Sun," Forbes contributor Brian Koberlein wrote. "Another possibility (which seems more likely to the object's discoverers) is that it is about 300 AU away and about 1.5 times the size of Earth, making it the first 'super-Earth' found in our solar system."

A super-Earth is a planet that has a mass somewhere between that of Earth's and that of the gas giants in our solar system, Neptune and Uranus.

Another theory is that the object could be a brown dwarf, an object too large to be a planet but not quite a star, that's simply farther away than we think.

Other astronomers are not convinced the data from the telescope can be interpreted as meaningful at all.

"The logical leaps are sort of astounding," Mike Brown of CalTech told the Washington Post. "What they really saw is a little blip and then 6 months later another little blip."

Brown and other astronomers are not convinced there is enough evidence, and the probability is just too small for the researchers to have discovered a ninth planet in our solar system.

Wouter Vlemmings of Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden, who co-authored the new studies, said he released the study before it was peer-reviewed to reach out to the community for ideas and discussion. "The most helpful feedback so far has been numerous offers to observe with other instruments," he told Scientific American.

Perhaps with more astronomers working together, the mystery will be solved once and for all.

Another source:

Scientists claimed they found elusive ‘Planet X.’ Doubting astronomers are in an uproar.

Dec 11th 2015

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/11/scientists-claimed-they-found-the-elusive-planet-x-now-astronomers-are-in-an-uproar/

By Sarah Kaplan December 11

The antennas of the Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA) under the northern Chilean sky. Researchers using the ALMA say they have found two mysterious large objects at the outskirts of the solar system. (Rex Features via AP Images)

It’s a big, dark presence at the farthest reaches of our solar system, a mysterious force powerful enough to skew the paths of planets in orbit and yet so subtle that it slips undetected past even the most powerful telescopes on Earth. For centuries, it has eluded some of the most brilliant minds in astronomy — some say it even destroyed one. It’s the subject of endless calculations and rampant speculation, crackpot theories and countless hours spent gazing, fruitlessly, at the night sky.

It’s known as Planet X.

And on Tuesday, a group of astronomers said they’d found not just one such presence, but two of them.

“ALMA discovers the most distant object of the solar system,” read the title of one paper uploaded to the research-sharing site arXiv. “The serendipitous discovery of a possible new solar system object with ALMA,” went the other.

Using the Atacama large millimeter/submillimeter array (ALMA), a powerful telescope located in the high desert of Chile, the researchers said they’d come across two extremely large objects skimming through the outskirts of the solar system.

Though both studies were submitted to the prestigious journal Astronomy & Astrophysics, neither has been peer-reviewed or formally published — steps that are par for the course with any kind of serious scientific research but especially when pronouncements of previously unknown planets are at stake. They’re both based on limited observations — just two spottings apiece for each odd object. And even after just 48 hours online, they have garnered a great deal of skepticism within the astronomy community.

But the researchers say they posted their papers with exactly that purpose.

“We specifically wanted to reach the community that could tell us if we overlooked something, in which case we fully intend to withdraw the papers,” Wouter Vlemmings, an astronomer at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden and co-author on both studies, told Scientific American.

Here’s what Vlemmings and his colleague say they found:

A large rocky something they call “Gna” (for a fast-moving Nordic messenger goddess, one of the authors told Scientific American), that could be an asteroid-type object roughly the size of Ireland zooming around somewhere near Uranus. Alternatively, the researchers propose, it could be an undiscovered planet floating much farther out, or even a brown-dwarf (bigger than a planet, smaller than a star) passing through interstellar space.

Also, a mysterious, unnamed object that appears in the sky close to the alpha centauri system that may be a “Super-Earth” planet far beyond even Pluto or a super-cool brown dwarf that’s really far. It could also conceivably be an icy “trans Neptunian object,” of which there are plenty in the frozen darkness past the eighth planet, but the researchers say that’s less likely (it’s also, not coincidentally, less interesting).

All of which sounds pretty cool — unless you’re Mike Brown, a Cal Tech astronomer who has spent the majority of his careers scanning the farthest reaches of the solar system for just these kinds of objects.

Brown, the self-proclaimed “Pluto killer” who discovered a trans-Neptunian object (big things out past Neptune) that helped dethrone the erstwhile ninth planet back in 2005, would be thrilled to find the long-sought Planet X. He’d be almost as happy to see a paper reporting that other researchers had found it.

But these two papers, he said, are not that.

“The logical leaps are sort of astounding,” he said. “What they really saw they saw is a little blip and then six months later another little blip.”

The evidence that the researchers offer for their findings is too scanty, Brown said, and the probability that they could have stumbled across a huge, planet-like object in a tiny patch of sky is too small. Finding Planet X in the small field of vision they studied with the ALMA telescope, he said, “would be like scooping a cup full of water from the ocean and pulling out the white whale.”

Several other astronomers offered similar commentary in the days after the papers’ initial publication.

Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer with the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told Gizmodo it was a “considerable stretch” to claim a outer solar system object had been found based on the information in the reports. There could be problems with the ALMA instruments or other explanations for the “blips” that form the basis of the reports, he said.

This may be a classic case of “we should have waited for the referees’ report before going on arXiv,” he said.

“There’s so many reasons why they can’t possibly be correct,” Brown said. “It’s embarrassing to the field.”

That’s because of Planet X’s “long and sordid history,” as Brown put it. Though the notion of a ninth planet of some kind at the outer edge of the solar system is perfectly legitimate — scientists have long seen it as an explanation for irregularities in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune — it’s been plagued by false hope and unfounded “discoveries.” One 19th century researcher claimed that the planet was a star he was studying and “lost” (really he just lost track of it). Another claimed there must be as many as three planets out beyond Neptune, though he provided no evidence for his conjectures.

But no Planet X researcher was more beleaguered than Percival Lowell, who launched into the search for the distant object in an attempt to redeem himself after he became a laughing stock for suggesting that aliens might be building canals on Mars.

Little did he know that Planet X was no place to find redemption.

Lowell spent years photographing the night sky with nothing more than a primitive camera and borrowed telescope, searching for evidence of a planet whose existence was still only a theory. He died of a stroke in 1916, his search unsuccessful. A lifelong friend said that the failure “virtually killed him.”

But Lowell didn’t fail — at least, not totally. Unknown to him, Lowell actually captured a large, distant object twice in his photographs. We now call that object Pluto.

Pluto would become “Planet X” a decade later, when a farm kid named Clyde Tombaugh working at the Flagstaff, Ariz., laboratory that Lowell founded came across a small moving speck in his own photos of the sky. “That’s it!” he recalled exclaiming.

And for about 80 years, that was it. Until Brown and his fellow astronomers came along and took the title away from poor Pluto.

Meanwhile, modern analysis of the trajectories of our most far-flung space craft — things like the Voyager and Pioneer probes — has found no evidence of gravitational influence of the kind that could be attributed to a distant planet, at least not as early astronomers envisioned it.

Still, the search for Planet X has continued.

“For those of us who actually work on this, it’s embarrassing to even say you might be looking for these sort of things in the outer solar system because there have been so many crazy theories,” Brown said.

So when reports like the two arXiv studies come out, “you worry that when someone finally finds something that’s not crazy, people are going to say ‘Oh, I heard that story three months ago and it’s not real.'”

But Brown may not need to be so concerned. After all, two centuries of failure has not stopped astronomers from scanning the distant corners of our solar neighborhood, bit by bit, searching for something out there that resembles the rock we call home.

Interest in Planet X is plain to see. Even if the planet itself isn’t.

Sarah Kaplan is a reporter for Morning Mix.

It looks like these news are what prompted the Suspicious Observer guy from youtube to claim:

Brown Dwarf Here, Sunspot Alert

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5oDY_hwcLw&feature=youtu.be

 

[s-kur]

Interesting. Are they preparing us for the revealing of information of a companion star or just giving good ol' misleading information?


_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html

Also here some data on the subject.

 

[Cosmos]

Interesting. Are they preparing us for the revealing of information of a companion star or just giving good ol' misleading information?


_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html

Also here some data on the subject.

Yep and here is the relevant information about it from the other thread:

Nemesis and/or two new Planets finally discovered?

Two new large objects were just discovered, probably part of our solar system:

http://phys.org/news/2015-12-discovery-large-outer-edges-solar.html

Report of discovery of large object in far outer edges of solar system incites skeptical reactions

(Phys.org)—Two separate teams of researchers (one from Mexico, the other Sweden), have incited skepticism among the astronomy community by posting papers on the preprint server arXiv each describing a different large object they observed in the outer edges of the solar system. Both teams made their observations after reviewing data from ALMA—a cluster of radio dishes in the Chilean mountains.

One of the objects was found to be near W Aquilae in the night sky—the other adjacent to Alpha Centauri . Both groups report being skeptical at first regarding a faint glow, but monitored what they had seen nonetheless—to their surprise they found that the objects appeared to mover relative to the stars behind them, which suggested they might be relatively close and that they might be orbiting the sun. Neither group was able to gain much evidence regarding the properties of the objects they had spied, because both of them were only able to make two observations, but both teams suggest there was enough data to allow for ruling out the object being an ordinary star.

The Swedish team nick-named the object they observed Gna, after a Nordic God known for its swiftness, and have told the press they had no intention of suggesting they had found the mythical Planet X which supposedly lies somewhere beyond Pluto. Instead they suggest it might be a large asteroid. The team from Mexico went a little further suggesting that the object they observed might possibly turn out to be a brown dwarf.

There is also the possibility, as some astronomers who have read the two papers suggest, that either or both of the objects are merely illusions, random blips or noise that for a moment or two appeared to take the shape of a very far away object. Some have even tweeted their opinions, insinuating that jumping on the Planet X bandwagon would be sheer folly.

Despite the skepticism, it is likely that other research groups will be training their instruments on the piece of sky where the objects were possibly seen, to prove or disprove their existence and to put a stop to the conjecture. Both of the teams involved have voiced their support of such efforts, noting that they would like an explanation for what they observed.

The papers about the two objects:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.02652
http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.02650

As stated above, the swedish team named their discovery Gna and say following in the paper:

Based on our analysis, we conclude that a single object (with a flux of ∼3.0 mJy) exhibiting a large proper motion (∼87 arcsec/yr) is the most likely explanation. Until the nature of the source becomes clear, we have named it Gna. Unless there are yet unknown, but significant, issues with ALMA observations, we have detected a previously unknown objects in our solar system. Based on proper motion analysis we find that, if it is gravitationally bound, Gna is currently located at 12−25 AU distance and has a size of ∼220−880 km. Alternatively it is a much larger, planet-sized, object, gravitationally unbound, and located within ∼4000 AU, or beyond (out to ∼0.3~pc) if it is strongly variable.

About the other object that was discovered by the mexican team:

ALMA observations 10 months apart revealed a new blackbody point source that is apparently comoving with α Cen B. We exclude that source to be a sub-/stellar member of the α Centauri system, but argue that it is either an extreme TNO, a Super-Earth or a very cool brown dwarf in the outer realm of the solar system.

Further they give three different possible explanations for what the mexican discovery could be:

- A less then 100 astronomical units [AU= Distance Earth-Sun) distant dwarf planet, in the approximate size of the transneptunian Objekt Sedna, with a diameter of 1000 Kilometers

- An [u]approximately 300 AU distant Super-Earth[/u] (that means a rocky planet, about 10 times the size of the Earth). If that is the case it could be Planet-X.

- Or an approximately 20.000 AU distant brown dwarf star, as a stellar companion of our sun. Aka: maybe Nemesis which has been searched for by astronomers for quite some time.

Would be interesting to compare the data above with what Pierre wrote in Earthchanges and what the C's have said about Nemesis and as of yet unknown planets of our solar system...

Keep in mind though, that those were relatively short observations, which means that their data could be off.

and the following two posts:

Would be interesting to compare the data above with what Pierre wrote in Earthchanges and what the C's have said about Nemesis and as of yet unknown planets of our solar system...

Keep in mind though, that those were relatively short observations, which means that their data could be off.

For reference, in the book Earthchanges, Pierre wrote:

Figure 43 displays Nemesis’ orbit and the solar system. This simulation is based on the following hypothesis: Nemesis’ mass = 56% of the Sun’s mass. Nemesis’ perihelion = 49 AU (roughly the distance between the Sun and Pluto). Duration of Nemesis’ orbit = 26.9-million-year cycle as calculated by Mellot and Bambach. As a result the speed of Nemesis (relative to the Sun at the perihelion) would be 4.66 miles/s. The aphelion (the greatest distance between the Sun and Nemesis) would be 203,000 AU, i.e. 3.21 light years.

The C's once said:

4 July 1998 (notice, BEFORE the remote viewing Johnno found)

Q: (A) I am trying to write down some things about a
cosmology, and I have some questions mainly about the
coming events. First there was the story of the sun's
companion brown star which is apparently approaching the
solar system, and I would like to know, if possible,
details of its orbit; that is, how far it is, what is its
speed, and when it will be first seen. Can we know it?
Orbit: how close will it come?

A: Flat eliptical.

Q: (A) But how close will it come?

A: Distance depends upon other factors, such as intersecting
orbit of locator of witness.

Q: (L) What is the closest it could come to earth... (A)
Solar system... (L) Yes, but which part of the solar
system? We have nine planets... which one? (A) I
understand that this brown star will enter the Oort
cloud... (L) I think they said it just brushes against it
and the gravity disturbs it...

A: Passes through Oort cloud on orbital journey. Already has
done this on its way "in."

Q: (A) You mean it has already entered the Oort cloud?

A: Has passed through.

Q: (A) So, it will not approach...

A: Oort cloud is located on outer perimeter orbital plane at
distance of approximately averaged distance of
510,000,000,000 miles. (That makes 5.500 AU)

Q: (L) Well, 510 billion miles gives us some time! (A) Yes,
but what I want to know... this Oort cloud is around the
solar system, so this brown star, once it has passed
through... (L) It must already be in the solar system?
(A) No, it could have passed through and may not come
closer. Is it coming closer or not? Is it coming closer
all the time?

While looking at what the C's once said about yet unknown planets in our solar system:

September 30, 1994

Q: (L) Could you tell us the names of all the planets, their distances from the sun, the chemical composition, and the diameter.

A:

* Mercury=Opatanar, 36 million miles from Sun; 3000 mi. diameter.

* Venus=Pemuntar, 67 million miles from Sun; 7,500 mi. diameter.

* Earth=Saras, 93 million miles from Sun; 7,900 mi. diameter.

* Mars=Masar, 141,500,000 miles from Sun; 4,200 mi. diameter.

* Jupiter=Yontar, 483,400,000 miles from Sun; 88,700 diameter.

* Saturn=Zendar, 886,700,000 miles from Sun; 74,500 diameter.

* Uranus=Lonoponor, 1,782,700,000 miles from Sun; 31,566 diameter.

* Neptune=Jinoar, 2,794,300,000 miles from Sun; 30,199 diameter.

* Pluto=Opikimanaras, 3,666,100,000 miles from Sun; 1,864 diameter.

* NI=Montonanas, 570,000,000,000 (6.100 AU) miles from Sun; solid matter; 7000 miles diameter.

* NII=Suvurutarcar, 830,000,000,000 miles from Sun (9000 AU); 18000 miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

* NIII=Bikalamanar, 1,600,000,000,000 miles from Sun (17.200 AU); 46000 miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

So, by comparing the numbers stated in the papers, there is no candidate that would fit the profile here. Though, if the figure of 20.000 AU for the brown dwarf is the correct one, and the calculations from Pierre about the aphelion of 200.000 AU, it's still pretty close and probably indeed approaching. But to come into the solar system to reach 49 AU, it would still take a lot of time.

Another possibility is, that the Gna object is similar to the object the C called 'Montonanas' though the proposed diameter of just 7000 miles seems too small.

However, hopefully they make some measurements to narrow down what it actually is.

Nemesis and/or two new Planets finally discovered?

Two new large objects were just discovered, probably part of our solar system:

http://phys.org/news/2015-12-discovery-large-outer-edges-solar.html

[...]

Keep in mind though, that those were relatively short observations, which means that their data could be off.

On some Croatian forum discussion and in one article, largest probability has been given to option 1: TNO.
Regarding the super-Earth - Alpha Centauri is 42° off the ecliptic which is too much (by usual astronomical assessment) for some planet (even Sedna is "only" 12° off the ecliptic).
Regarding the brown dwarf - it is expected to radiate in infra-red region which was not observed so far.


edit: The lack of infra-red radiation signature is the reason for "... We exclude that source to be a sub-/stellar member of the α Centauri system, ..."

 

[Windmill knight]

Sorry Pashalis, I didn´t notice you had posted about this on the thread about Pierre's book, but since you posted it here as well, I don't think it's necessary to move posts or merge threads.

In this link:

http://www.unilad.co.uk/news/astronomers-may-have-found-massive-new-super-earth-in-our-solar-system/

we read:

The two publications have not been ‘peer reviewed’ by other scientists, and experts remain highly sceptical of the findings with Mike Brown of Caltech saying:

If it is true that ALMA accidentally discovered a massive outer solar system object in its tiny tiny tiny field of view that would suggest there are something like 200,000 Earth sized planets in the outer solar system. Which, um, no. Even better: I just realised that this many Earth-sized planets existing would destabilise the entire solar system and we would all die.

Seems like he doesn’t think too much of the research – imagine how stupid he’ll look when the entire solar system collapses in on itself. Won’t be laughing then will you.

Notice that Mike Brown's argument is basically that "you didn't discover anything because you couldn't have discovered anything". Because, he says, the poor ALMA telescope is tiny, so the probability of seeing anything of significance in the vastness of space is very small. Yet they saw something. So as a scientist, why doesn't he take the evidence first and THEN proceed to reach a conclusion, rather than the other way around??

Also, notice his assumption that the improbability of a tiny telescope finding something huge MUST mean that the space is crowded with huge stuff, otherwise it couldn't have happened. Yet it did! So it's time to review those assumptions, right?

That's scientists for you nowadays.

 

[Vulcan59]

FWIW, new paper out on arvix - Large size and slow rotation of the trans-Neptunian object (225088) 2007 OR10 discovered from Herschel and K2 observations[EPA]

http://arxiv.org/abs/1603.03090

 

[iam]

this makes me think of them confirming gravity waves...wonder if this star helped them "discover" it.

 

[gdpetti]

Well it seems these stories continue to increase in even the mainstream media to some extent, which is interesting by itself, but follows the usual 'bidding' process it seems to keep the herd following its lead.
There was another interview on some alt site that covered most of this and the usual subject matters, since it was alomst 2.5 hrs long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYlk8x6gGoY
I didn't hear anything outlandish in that interview of Bob Fletcher... anyone heard of him? Essentially, it's a compilation of all the usual stuff:

Published on Mar 6, 2016

Nibiru or Planet X has been confirmed by several main stream media outlets now here in the USA and abroad. The information on when people will feel its effects varies and that in itself should cause red flags. With that said the information presented is for you to decide and make up your own mind.

 

[Niall]

Nibiru or Planet X has been confirmed by several main stream media outlets now here in the USA and abroad.

Not "confirmed", theorized. See here:

http://www.sott.net/article/316153-Sott-Exclusive-Nemesis-not-Nibiru-Clarifying-mainstream-reports-about-a-large-ninth-planet-that-periodically-sends-comets-our-way

 

[gdpetti]

Yes, I should have put that in quotes, as it's the title from that Youtube page...

 

[goyacobol]

Yes, I should have put that in quotes, as it's the title from that Youtube page...

Do you or anyone else know what "d=1535^{+75}_{-225} km" equates to? The Cs say that there is something coming our way that may be the Orion headquarters for our star system which may be close to the 1534 +75 or -225 figure:

Session 4 December 1999

Q: Now, according to some information posted on the Millennium Group site, there are some photographs that seem to indicate that
there IS something anomalous in orbit around the Sun... maybe a new "planet, " or something. Is there a new object in our solar
system in a close orbit around the sun?
A: Maybe.
Q: There is conjecture that this object appeared around the time of the passage of the Hale Bopp comet. Is that the case?
A: No.
Q: Is this object that is possibly in orbit around the sun, is it a natural or artificial construction?
A: Latter.
Q Who constructed it?
A: Orion STS.
Q: What is it?
A: HQ.
Q: The Orion Headquarters?
A: For your star system.
Q: Okay, you said "maybe" to this being a "new object." When did it arrive, or when was it placed there?
A: You measure "time" linearly.
Q: Can we give it a "linear" definition, or does it come and go through some sort of portal in terms of time, in a cyclical way, or a
variable and selective way?
A: Yes, but it arrived at that coordinate 26730 years ago, sort of.
Q: What is its orbit, or distance from the Sun?
A: 31,230,000 miles.
Q: How large is this object?
A: 1005.6 kilometers diameter.
Q: What is the general configuration or shape of it? (A) A sphere, a ball, a disc, a cylinder?
A: Partial sphere, hexagonal.
Q: (A) Is it in a circular orbit or an elliptical orbit?
A: Circular. Rotation is altered by guidance system, gravitationally powered.
Q: What is its angle to the plane of the ecliptic?
A: 21 degrees.
Q: Okay, you said that it is "headquarters," so that answers what it does. And, it did not arrive with Hale Bopp. Just off to the side,
was there REALLY a Hale Bopp companion - this rumor just won't die!?
A: No.
Q: Now, what do these Orions DO in this object? I mean, isn't it a little warm so close to the sun? I know. That's a stupid question.
Space is cold.
A: Yes, and study magnetism for answers.
Q: Do Orions LIVE in this object?
A: Close.
Q: Do they use it as a transfer portal?
A: Yes.
Q: So, it is a doorway, so to speak?
A: Doorway as are many.
Q: How many of these objects are in our solar system?
A: Two.
Q: Where is the other one?
A: Outside, on the fringe of the solar system.
Q: Is the government, or some faction or department, aware of this object?
A: Yes.
Q: Anything else you can tell us about this object?
A: No need.
[Break to look at photographs.]
Q: Now, in terms of the photographs of this object, it looks sort of like two cylindrical objects with a dome or energy flow arc at the
top. Could you tell us what we were seeing.
A: The object.
Q: Was it two part?
A: No.
Q: What was this arc looking part? Part of the spherical part?
A: Your visual perspective.
Q: Are the two cylindrical parts aspects of the hexagonal shape extending down from a spherical cap?
A: Close.
Q: Now, related in a general sort of way, there is Ong's Hat, Emory Cranston, and the Incunabula Papers. Supposedly they are like
a "democratic time travel" group. There are claims that they were raided some years back, several of them were killed, and there is
quite a story behind this group. Is Ong's Hat what it claims to be?
A: No.
Q: Is Ong's Hat a cover for some sort of covert government operation?
A: No.
Q: IS Ong's Hat a group of people who are actually experimenting with time travel
A: Close.
Q: Are they experimenting with physical time travel, or time travel via consciousness?
A: Both, but with limited success.
Q: Were they actually raided by the "powers that be," and were some of them killed as is claimed in the story?
A: Yes.
Q: Who is Emory Cranston? I have heard it is a pseudonym...
A: Pseudoscientist.
Q: Do you mean he really knows what he is doing, or he just has a good clue as to what he is doing?
A: Latter.
Q: Is there any benefit to us to pursue this "Ong's Hat" clue?
A: Not really.

I haven't read the Ong's Hat PDF yet but it may be just a diversion since the Cs say "not really". And the Orion Headquarters may be off topic here too.

There is so much in the sessions that have kind of gone past me that I am constantly just trying to keep up. Could some of these sightings be related to not just the brown star but also the Orion Headquarters?

Furthermore, the "dark star" is something the Cs tell us we have to make decisions about:
Session 16 July 2009

Q: (A***) Sweet. (L) So, pretty much we've got... Well, that's quite a comprehensive program. There was some discussion on the
forum recently about if people had to die to get to the 4th density. And I think I remember you distinctly saying that some will die and
some won't. Is that correct?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Some people will transition into 4th density. Like I said before they'll just kind of like rejuvenate and their DNA will unwrap or
change under the new cosmic environment and their bodies will change?
A: Some.
Q: (L) And we already asked what some of that would be like. Okay, so... (A***) I supposed we're not allowed to ask if it's gonna
happen to us. (laughter)
A: You have your work cut out for you. You have a choice of futures. What will it be? A dark star or paradise restored??? Goodbye.

We definitely have our work cut out for us I think. :(

For the record I do not want to come back to 3D as 3D but that remains to be seen.

 

[Divide by Zero]

We definitely have our work cut out for us I think. :(

For the record I do not want to come back to 3D as 3D but that remains to be seen.

Yeah, tons of work and it's pushing against the rigged rules of this reality.
More and more I see the problem that we cannot remove psychopaths from power if the people that they harm defend them!
Sometimes I think that is one of the big lessons for STO here: to learn that free will must be respected, even if someone doesn't want to hear that they are going to walk off a cliff. (only give when asked)

Amen brother. I don't want to come back either. I'm tired of doing the same 3d homework that half the class keeps not doing and just copying off eachother. (A joke on what the C's said- 3rd grade lessons to graduate to 4th)

 

[T.C.]

A bit more 'disclosure', recently:

http://www.sott.net/article/316869-NASA-discovers-free-floating-planet-sized-object-in-the-Milky-Way

NASA discovers free-floating planet-sized object in the Milky Way

In 2011, astronomers reported our galaxy is likely filled with roaming planets not attached to a host star, and these worlds may in fact outnumber stars in the Milky Way.

Scientists have debated over whether these objects are true planets, or light stars known as brown dwarfs. Brown dwarfs form just like stars but don't have the mass to spark nuclear fusion at their cores.

In a new study published by The Astrophysical Journal, scientists identified one of these objects that may give answers to where these roaming objects came from.

Discovering objects throughout the galaxy

Scientists used information from NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) to identify the roaming, planetary-mass object inside a young star family, known as the TW Hydrae association. The newly found object, dubbed WISEA J114724.10-204021.3, or simply WISEA 1147, is believed to be between about 5 to 10 times the mass of Jupiter.

Since the object was discovered to be an affiliate the TW Hydrae group of very young stars, astronomers recognize that it is relatively young, around 10 million years old. Also, because planets need a minimum of 10 million years to develop, and even longer to get kicked out of a solar system, WISEA 1147 is probably a brown dwarf, the study team said.

"With continued monitoring, it may be possible to trace the history of WISEA 1147 to confirm whether or not it formed in isolation," study author Adam Schneider of the University of Toledo in Ohio, said in a NASA news release.

The study team said tracking the origins of free-floating objects and figuring out if they are planets or brown dwarfs is a struggle because they are so isolated.

"We are at the beginning of what will become a hot field - trying to determine the nature of the free-floating population and how many are planets versus brown dwarfs," said co-author Davy Kirkpatrick of NASA's Infrared Processing and Analysis Center (IPAC) at the CalTech.

One method to detect close roaming objects is movement in relation to other stars over time. The closer an object, the more it will seem to move against a background of more remote stars. By examining information from both sky surveys taken approximately 10 years apart, closer items jump out.

The brown dwarf WISEA 1147 was brilliantly red in survey pictures where the color red was assigned to longer infrared wavelengths, meaning that it's dusty and young.

"The features on this one screamed out, 'I'm a young brown dwarf,'" Schneider said.

After further evaluation, the astronomers discovered that this object is associated with the TW Hydrae group, which is around 150 light-years from Earth and just approximately 10 million years old. With an approximate mass between five and 10 times that of Jupiter, WISEA 1147 is one of the youngest and lightest brown dwarfs ever discovered.

 

[Kenny McCormick]

NASA discovers free-floating planet-sized object in the Milky Way

After further evaluation, the astronomers discovered that this object is associated with the TW Hydrae group, which is around 150 light-years from Earth and just approximately 10 million years old. With an approximate mass between five and 10 times that of Jupiter, WISEA 1147 is one of the youngest and lightest brown dwarfs ever discovered.

There should be much more than one brown dwarf in 150 light years radius from Earth. The one we think about should be no further than 1/3 ly from us.

 

[sitting]

A: You have your work cut out for you. You have a choice of futures.

Yes.

And it's best we stop worrying -- and wondering ... and start choosing.

FWIW.