Mass Shootings

Charlie said:
Niall said:
This video appears to show the weapon being fired from a far lower floor than officially claimed.

I hadn't seen this video anywhere yet. Hopefully somebody saves it before it gets scrubbed.

The original video seems to be here at the bottom (strong language):

_http://www.thedailysheeple.com/second-shooter-footage-shows-las-vegas-gunfire-did-not-come-from-32nd-story_102017
 
Charlie said:
Niall said:
This video appears to show the weapon being fired from a far lower floor than officially claimed.

I hadn't seen this video anywhere yet. Hopefully somebody saves it before it gets scrubbed.
According to google this is how one can save the video from facebook

Copy the link to the video and paste it into an input field at savefrom.net. Click the "Download" button on the right. You will be prompted to choose the format and quality of the video file to download. You will be shown a list of direct links to all videos on the web page.
 
Hasn't taken long for the snowflakes to make this a political issue.

CBS Fires Exec Who Slammed Vegas Dead As "Country Music Fans Who're Often Gun-Toting Republicans"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-02/cbs-fires-exec-who-slammed-vegas-dead-country-music-fans--jezebel--often-gun-toting-repu

(Not sure if the twitter feeds will show up. If not just read the article from the link)

CBS has fired on of its top lawyers after she took to social media to explain why she was "not even sympathetic" to victims of the Las Vegas shooting because "country music fans often are Republican."

As Fox News reports, Hayley Geftman-Gold, the network's now-former vice president and senior counsel, took to Facebook after a gunman opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas, killing at least 58 people and sending more than 500 others to hospitals.

“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs [sic] will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote in a now-deleted message that was first reported and captured by The Daily Caller.



Geftman-Gold continued: “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc [sic] country music fans often are Republican gun toters [sic].”

A CBS spokeswoman told Fox News...

"This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS.



Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families."

We're sure MSNBC is hiring?

This disgusting individual was not alone, however, as a number of apparently left-leaning Americans took to Twitter to seemingly celebrate the massacereof 'white Trump supporters'. As Paul Joseph Watson noted, an anti-Trump activist with the Twitter name ‘Ann #TheResistance’ who is also a teacher reacted to the deadliest mass shooting in American history by tweeting, “Lots of white Trump supporters in Las Vegas at route 21 watching Jason aldean. Pray only Trumptards died! #prayforvegas.”

After the tweet began to go viral, the user deleted it and then wiped her entire account.

Another Twitter user lauded the massacre by tweeting, “Shooting at country music festival in Las Vegas?! Looks like revenge on those Trump supporters.”

“I hope they killed more than 25 Trump supporters lol,” tweeted another.

* * *

The question is, how many of these real deplorables will also get fired (or is gleefully commenting on the death of fellow Americans an acceptable stretch of the 1st amendment at these people's places of work?)
 
seek10 said:
Charlie said:
Niall said:
This video appears to show the weapon being fired from a far lower floor than officially claimed.

I hadn't seen this video anywhere yet. Hopefully somebody saves it before it gets scrubbed.
According to google this is how one can save the video from facebook

Copy the link to the video and paste it into an input field at savefrom.net. Click the "Download" button on the right. You will be prompted to choose the format and quality of the video file to download. You will be shown a list of direct links to all videos on the web page.

Thanks for the tip seek10. I was able to download it that way. There is some speculation about the flashing lights being strobe lights (from the sign?).
There is no evidence of holes in the glass in that part of the building that I can see.

_http://www.thedailysheeple.com/second-shooter-footage-shows-las-vegas-gunfire-did-not-come-from-32nd-story_102017
FBI agents reportedly stormed Room 135 on the 32nd story of the Mandalay Bay hotel, and photos show two windows shot out on the edge of the right side of the building.
Others have speculated the flashing light seen in the footage is a strobe light which happened to coincide with gunfire.
 
goyacobol said:
I don't want to speak for Joe but here are some of his thoughts:

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581338808820
Vegas shooting. Shooter firing automatic weapon, multiple 5-10 second bursts from 32 floor of hotel located 400 meters away into dense crowd. 50+ dead. 200+ injured

Immediate reports on social media of multiple shooters, first police report claims only one shooter.
Anyone with gun experience, is this a likely result considering distance? I would have thought that 'spraying' of bullets from such a distance would have lead to mostly injuries. 50 dead sounds more like highly accurate sniper fire.

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581401778820
Interesting coincidence how some of the mass shooting events happen immediately after other big stories that are then pushed off the front pages.

I get the feeling that the only connection Paddock had in this shooting was he was occupying a room that had been pre-selected by the gun men? Paddock was probably dead - before the shooting started?

As for other news reports being buried due to this massive shooting, the Benghazi trial began today and the real architect behind that massacre
is now pushing for gun control???

A Washington, DC, court has initiated the trial of Ahmed Abu Khattala, a Libyan national who US authorities allege orchestrated the lethal attacks on US facilities in Benghazi, Libya, in 2011.

Trial Against Accused Architect of Benghazi Attack Begins
https://sputniknews.com/us/201710031057888958-trial-against-accused-benghazi-attack/

The trial, expected to last five weeks, kicked off on Monday with Khattala’s attorney denying that his client was guilty of all charges alleged by US prosecutors. Khattala, 46, faces 18 counts of criminal wrongdoing, including murder. The September 11, 2012, attack in question led to the deaths of US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, State Department official Sean Smith and two former US Navy SEALs working as security officers at a CIA compound near the US embassy in Benghazi: Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.
 
goyacobol said:
Thanks for the tip seek10. I was able to download it that way. There is some speculation about the flashing lights being strobe lights (from the sign?).

I think it's a strobe. The sound of the gunshots ends before the light stops flashing (more obvious in the original video visible in the daily sheeple article). The lights should end before the sound ends if they're coming from the same source (accounting for some delay in the sound reaching the camera/mic). Pay attention to when he says "Yo". There are several seconds of footage showing the strobe, but no sound of gunshots.
 
angelburst29 said:
goyacobol said:
I don't want to speak for Joe but here are some of his thoughts:

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581338808820
Vegas shooting. Shooter firing automatic weapon, multiple 5-10 second bursts from 32 floor of hotel located 400 meters away into dense crowd. 50+ dead. 200+ injured

Immediate reports on social media of multiple shooters, first police report claims only one shooter.
Anyone with gun experience, is this a likely result considering distance? I would have thought that 'spraying' of bullets from such a distance would have lead to mostly injuries. 50 dead sounds more like highly accurate sniper fire.

_https://www.facebook.com/JoeQuinnSOTT/posts/10155581401778820
Interesting coincidence how some of the mass shooting events happen immediately after other big stories that are then pushed off the front pages.

I get the feeling that the only connection Paddock had in this shooting was he was occupying a room that had been pre-selected by the gun men? Paddock was probably dead - before the shooting started?

As for other news reports being buried due to this massive shooting, the Benghazi trial began today and the real architect behind that massacre
is now pushing for gun control???

A Washington, DC, court has initiated the trial of Ahmed Abu Khattala, a Libyan national who US authorities allege orchestrated the lethal attacks on US facilities in Benghazi, Libya, in 2011.

Trial Against Accused Architect of Benghazi Attack Begins
https://sputniknews.com/us/201710031057888958-trial-against-accused-benghazi-attack/

The trial, expected to last five weeks, kicked off on Monday with Khattala’s attorney denying that his client was guilty of all charges alleged by US prosecutors. Khattala, 46, faces 18 counts of criminal wrongdoing, including murder. The September 11, 2012, attack in question led to the deaths of US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens, State Department official Sean Smith and two former US Navy SEALs working as security officers at a CIA compound near the US embassy in Benghazi: Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

I think you are exactly right angelburst29. Probably many or most of the alleged false-flage attackers were just patsies for the real perpetrators. Paddock was just booked in the wrong room at the wrong time. And how convenient the timing always seems to be. Benghazi will be just an after thought if even that. It gets more and more difficult to watch them get away with all the lies time after time.
 
Daf said:
m said:

By the sound of it, It seems that many weapons are used at once... Hence a lone shooter is unlikely.

While many of us would question a "lone" shooter. Having a good ear while listening to a video would probably not stand up in court so to speak. Automatic rife fire from the distance of the hotel would be difficult to pin point for location and the nature of the rapid fire would make it difficult to hear multiple vs single weapon shooters I would think, especially just hearing a video recording.

There could also have been other shooters with silencers. I suppose that would make it even more difficult to place their shooting location. FWIW
 
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.
 
The Times of Israel has it dialed in with their headline:

_https://www.timesofisrael.com/las-vegas-shooter-was-son-of-bank-robbing-fraudster-wanted-by-fbi/

Las Vegas shooter was heavy gambler, son of ‘psychopath’ bank-robber

Details emerge about Stephen Paddock, retired accountant who killed 58; brother says he was 'not a normal guy'

Did his brother not say he was a normal guy? Interesting the twist as the Times of Israel is likely referring to father Benjamin.

Most of the article seems a repeat of what has been discussed. Their October 3rd page is focused on gun control:

Jewish groups call for tougher gun control laws in aftermath of Las Vegas attack

'There is no acceptable, reasonable need for civilians to have access to large rounds of ammunition,' says one group after mass shooting claims at least 59 lives...
[...]
Greenblatt said the group’s Center on Extremism is investigating the background and activity of shooter Stephen Paddock and whether he may have ties to extremists or was motivated by any extremist ideology.

[...]
“Federal lawmakers must act now to restrict access to automatic weapons, reject the current bill before Congress that would make it easier to buy silencers, and instead focus on how to make our communities and our country safer. NCJW expects nothing less from our elected officials,” the statement also said.

Unrelated, yet as part of new bills in the news and listed on the same web page cites:

French MPs to vote on tough anti-terror law

Bill is designed to bring to an end two-year state of emergency, but critics fear it marks an erosion of civil freedoms

PARIS, France — French lawmakers will vote Tuesday on a tough new counter-terrorism law designed to end the country’s two-year state of emergency, though critics say it will expand police powers at a cost to civil liberties.

The vote follows a string of attacks in France since 2015 and comes just two days after more bloodshed, in the southern port city of Marseille when a suspected Islamist knifeman killed two women.

There are probably a great deal of legislative bills before governments, and these events do indeed drive home the adoptive message to those in the House voting.
 
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

That video has been taken down. Here it is again https://www.facebook.com/JUICYFACE/videos/1516663145045929/

It sounds like gun fire from multiple locations to me.
 
Beorn said:
Puck said:
Has to have been at least two shooters. Can hear the distance between their positions in this video:

https://www.facebook.com/cori.langdon/videos/10212157422804893/

She also comments on how calm everyone is even though there's AR fire and shows some folks just milling about at the entrance to the hotel like it's a nice night out. That stood out.

That video has been taken down. Here it is again https://www.facebook.com/JUICYFACE/videos/1516663145045929/

It sounds like gun fire from multiple locations to me.

Ok, the new link was immediately taken down again...
 
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