Pro-China bias?

Another piece of a puzzle: 7 months is the legal cut off. "Abortion is illegal for women more than seven months pregnant, including those who violate the one-child policy." Notice how the Chinese government is unable to simply state that forced abortions are illegal, and must resort to qualifying clauses, eg "forced late-term abortions are explicitly banned in China."

After a couple decades of violence against Chinese women in the name of the one child policy, only an uninformed person would believe the Chinese government lip service. Meanwhile, the "serious punishment" recently imposed included no criminal charges, but slaps on the wrists like administrative demerits.

Watch the actions, not the words, when the two don't match.

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_http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-08/06/c_132606325.htm

Forced abortion blamed for mental illness
English.news.cn 2013-08-06 13:45:51

BEIJING, Aug. 6 (Xinhuanet) -- The family of a woman said to have developed a mental disorder after being forced to terminate her pregnancy at seven months have rejected the offer of subsidies from authorities in Lianyuan City in central China’s Hunan Province.

Wu Yongyuan, husband of Gong Qifeng, said they were claiming compensation rather than asking for subsidies because they wanted justice. Local authorities were merely offering aid and trying to avoid their responsibilities, he said.

According to news portal _www.chengdu.cn, the city’s letters and complaints office said it would be hard to prove Gong’s illness was connected to her induced labor.

It suggested government and civil affairs bureau in Anping Town offer civil relief and judicial help.

Gong was diagnosed as schizophrenic by Shaoyang Brain Hospital in June.

Wu and Gong, Anping Town natives, already had a son before Gong became pregnant again and they did not qualify for a second baby under China’s family planning policy.

Wu said his wife disappeared on a November afternoon in 2011 and he made every effort to find her, only to be told she was in Lianyuan TCM Hospital.

When Wu arrived at the hospital, Gong had been given an injection to induce an abortion.

Li Yinying, head nurse in the obstetrics department, confirmed that Gong had been forcibly escorted to hospital. Wu said Gong told him she hadn’t signed any agreement for medical treatment.

Wu Yongqin, the department’s deputy director, said a government official helped to sign Gong’s name as well as his own, Xiao Xiaochao, on the form.

Xiao couldn’t be reached for comment.

She said Gong’s relatives were present but they denied they were there.

After the injection, Gong was in extreme pain and doctors were unable to do anything to help. After suffering for 30 hours, the 35-centimeter dead fetus was delivered. The couple was banned from touching the child and a nurse assisant buried it on a nearby hilltop, where many other dead infants were buried.

Documents from the Lianyuan family planning service station proved that Gong had been taken there before being driven to the hospital.

An anonymous official said family planning officials from Anping Town — Zhou Haibo, Liu Xiangyong and Wu Tanqing — accompanied her.

Before the husband rushed to the hospital, he had told Zhou at the station that he would pay the fines to keep his child. But Zhou said it was too late.

Gong had no history of mental illness and an operation in 2004 to remove a brain tumor would not have triggered schizophrenia, Wu Yongyuan said. He blamed it on the forced abortion.

He said his wife had begun to scratch and bite. “She used to be so gentle that she’d never quarreled with me since we got married,” Wu said.

Family members said Gong would feed her son raw beef, make him wear too many clothes and took pills as if they were rice. She is scared of people who look like officials and always thinks someone is looking for her, the report said.

Abortion is illegal for women more than seven months pregnant, including those who violate the one-child policy.

Local authorities haven’t commented on Wu’s claims but a family planning official in Anping said although induced labor was harmful to health they would still insist on it. Yi Zhongru, the township head, described it as obligation.

In June 2012, seven officials in northwest China’s Shaanxi Province were punished for forcing a woman to end her pregnancy after seven months. The woman received 70,000 yuan (US$11,420) in an out-of-court settlement.

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_http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-01/07/c_133024690.htm

Official vows serious punishment for late-term abortions
English.news.cn 2014-01-07 13:02:18

BEIJING, Jan. 7 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese health authority spokesman has vowed serious investigation and punishment of people responsible for forced late-term abortions in enforcing the country's family planning policy.

Mao Qun'an, of the National Health and Family Planning Commission (NHFPC), said at a press conference on Tuesday that enforcement of family planning policy carried out in a brutal way is rigidly prohibited and forced late-term abortions are explicitly banned in China.

The official said the NHFPC's attitude toward such practices is clear and adamant -- serious punishment must be handed down for violations according to the law and disciplinary procedures.

Also at the press conference, Mao said the NHFPC is working to get ready for an easing of family planning policy that will allow more couples to have two children, if one parent is an only child.

Relevant services, such as pregnancy health and obstetrical care, should be prepared for the possible increase of newborns, he said.

According to Mao, preparation work is being carried out in an orderly manner.
 
Here's an interesting propaganda piece, which, between the lines, reveals the truth. It's written by a Chinese-American 'geostrategist', Miles Yu:

'China adds stock market crash to list of problems it blames on elaborate U.S. conspiracy'

Washington Times, 16 July 2015

_http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/16/inside-china-stock-market-crash-blamed-on-us-consp/?page=all#pagebreak

Yu said:
China’s spectacular stock market crash over the past several weeks has led the world to wonder: What caused such a panic sell-off?

While most analysts point to structural fault lines in China’s economic and political system as the ultimate culprit, many Chinese investors assign blame to a Western conspiracy in general and leading U.S. financial institutions such as Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley in particular as the root cause of the stock market woes — despite the fact that foreigners are generally restricted from investing in Chinese stock exchanges.

This is barely news in China. Reports assert that the United States is once again sabotaging socialist China through secret operations, this time in high finance.

But this is not surprising considering the preponderance of an unshakable Chinese habit — cultivated ever so arduously by the communist government for decades with its total control of all media outlets — of placing blame on the West for virtually all of China’s disasters.

"Total control of all media outlets"? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

Yu said:
Among all Western nations, the United States has been singled out for decades as the primary evildoer against the glorious socialist country, whose rise to prominence in the past two decades is said to have stoked profound fear in Washington. Beijing believes Washington is behind an elaborate and well-coordinated conspiracy and has been working to shatter the Chinese dream of restoring the Middle Kingdom to the historical and cultural dominance it held before the turn of the 19th century.

The history of the aggression against China by U.S. imperialism from 1840 when it helped the British in the Opium War to the time it was thrown out of China by the Chinese people should be written into a concise textbook for the education of Chinese youth,” Mao Zedong wrote in 1949, providing a general guideline for decades of U.S.-bashing.

According to communist founder Mao, the U.S. plot is indirect because Washington wants to avoid a direct military confrontation with China, which has strategic depth, popular support and a superior political system. The covert method calls for an all-out political, cultural, spiritual and, most important, intelligence infiltration of China collectively known as a “peaceful evolution.”

For a very long period,” Mao wrote, “U.S. imperialism laid greater stress than other imperialist countries on activities in the sphere of spiritual aggression, extending from religious to ‘philanthropic’ and cultural undertaking.”

Mao was right, on every count. Yu thinks that citing these lines from Mao will 'evidently' reveal their 'inherent absurdity', but for those with eyes to see, it has quite the opposite effect.

Yu said:
All post-Mao Chinese leaders are loyal subscribers to this Maoist theory of a U.S. conspiracy against China. In 1989, Deng Xiaoping blamed the United States for fomenting the momentous Tiananmen Square pro-democracy movement through a mysterious “international megaclimate.”

Interesting term. I've wondered about the synchronous Berlin Wall-Tiananmen Square-USSR collapse in 1989-1990, swiftly followed by the First Iraq War and the dismemberment of Yugoslavia.

Regarding Tiananmen Square, the way it has gone down in history certainly has little bearing on reality:

Were the 1989 Beijing student protests another CIA color revolution? Wikileaks cables reveal there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square

Yu said:
A June 1989 Chinese Ministry of State Security report to the Chinese Communist Politburo stated that “China as a big socialist country has always been an important target of the U.S.-led Western capitalist countries’ peaceful evolution campaign. Successive U.S. administrations [since the Truman administration], including the current [George H.W.] Bush administration, have never relaxed the implementation of the principle of ideological and cultural infiltration of our socialist country.”

China’s miserable relationship with many of its 14 neighbors and ethnic tensions in Buddhist Tibet and the Muslim Xinjiang region also are blamed routinely on the U.S. conspiracy. “All the things that are happening around China, as well as those terrorist riots that occurred in the ethnic areas of China, are not isolated and accidental,” China’s much-heralded anti-U.S. strategist, Chinese air force Senior Col. Dai Xu, wrote in 2009. “They are all planned single-handedly by the U.S.

Also probably true: US trained Uighur terrorists for eventuality of war with China

Yu said:
Col. Dai was voted one of China’s nine most influential “public intellectuals” by tens of millions of Chinese Internet users for his near clinically pathological anti-U.S. sentiments.

"...near clinically pathological anti-U.S. sentiments"?! Ahem, PROJECTION, much?!

Yu said:
With such a consensus among China’s ruling elites, all U.S.-generated engagements with China fall within the framework of an infiltration plot against China. The CIA and the FBI are natural suspects, but the list includes the U.S.-funded National Endowment for Democracy, the AFL-CIO, the Albert Einstein Institute, even the George Soros Open Society Institute — all viewed as agents of a U.S. master plan to subvert China.

EVEN the George Soros Open Society Institute!?! Who would ever have thought it!?

Yu said:
Evidence does not matter much to sustain such paranoia as long as China’s media remain monopolized by the state.

During the height of China’s stock roller coaster, the nation was gripped by a sensational June 23 report that nearly a half-million tons of “zombie meat” were confiscated by Chinese customs. Zombie meat is frozen beef, pork or chicken that is supposedly 30 to 40 years old and has saturated many of China’s supermarkets.

Where does this disgusting zombie meat come from to poison the Chinese people? The culprit is obvious: The official June 23 report said, without any evidence, that most of the zombie meat had come from the U.S. strategic reserve supply.

That's Yu's paramoralistic spin on it. What's being widely reported is that the meat is coming from Vietnam, that it dates from the 1970s, and one possibility is that it comes from reserves left by the US military machine when it parked itself in Southeast Asia all those years ago:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a9_1435664048

I think this is the author:

_http://www.usna.edu/Users/history/yu/

_http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/geostrategy-direct/Myu.html
 
There were two articles, one by Pepe Escobar, and the other by a Chinese source this morning on SOTT that gave evidence that there was certainly a sophisticated and large attack on the Chinese stock markets. I've read others too in the last couple of weeks. It also seems to be the case that China is being able to correct the situation and stabilize the chaos unleashed by the speculators.
 
I think the fall in the Chinese stock market could just be a market correction to a bubble earlier on in this year. If you look at graphs, the recent crash at its lowest point only reduced the index to the same point it had been at earlier this year. The Shanghai Composite Index was at about 3,300 at the beginning of 2015, climbing rapidly this year to over 5,000 and then falling recently to a low of about 3,500. It is now back up again to about 4,000. By contrast in 2008 the Dow Jones fell to a point it hadn't been at since 1997 (from about 14,000 to about 6,500). Perhaps the recent Chinese crash could even be seen as a sign of a healthy functioning market, in the sense that bubbles are not allowed to grow to big, and a smaller crash now might be something that prevents a bigger more catastrophic crash in the future (as looks likely to be coming for the US markets).

My numbers are obtained from looking at the graphs on these sites (you can adjust the time period shown):

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/stock-market
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia/charts?symb=DJIA&countrycode=US&time=100&startdate=1%2F4%2F1990&enddate=7%2F18%2F2015&freq=1&compidx=none&compind=none&comptemptext=Enter+Symbol%28s%29&comp=none&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&style=1013
 
Maybe with announcing (like finally :huh:) its gold reserves China also countered this stock market "encroachment - i think that i saw someone posted about it on some forum thread - but just in case that someone missed it:

China has ended six years of concealing its gold reserves, announcing a 57% rise in its hoard which puts it in the top five with the largest stash of the precious metal.

According to the People’s Bank of China, bullion assets totaled 3.31 million troy ounces or about 1,658 metric tons at the end of the June.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/18/420797/china-gold-reserves-currency-

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SeekinTruth said:
There were two articles, one by Pepe Escobar, and the other by a Chinese source this morning on SOTT that gave evidence that there was certainly a sophisticated and large attack on the Chinese stock markets. I've read others too in the last couple of weeks. It also seems to be the case that China is being able to correct the situation and stabilize the chaos unleashed by the speculators.

It seems China reacted promptly to the financial attacks.

Fighting the Russian and Chinese Community of Destiny: Did the US Try to Crash China’s Market Because BRICS Launched the New Development Bank?


http://www.globalresearch.ca/fighting-the-russian-and-chinese-community-of-destiny-did-the-us-try-to-crash-chinas-market-because-brics-launched-the-new-development-bank/5462163

As a response, the economic war that the US has been waging appears to have taken a new turn as well. Using speculation of an economic decline in China as a psychological weapon and market manipulation, Washington’s reaction to the steps taken by Beijing and Moscow to curb US influence and the US dollar appears to have led to the launching of a financial attack on the Chinese stock market. The aim of the attack was to hurt investor confidence in the Chinese economy and to ignite divestment through massive selloffs.

The Chinese have blamed the US while the US Treasury Department has rejected any responsibility whatsoever. Beijing’s reaction to the attempts to crash the Chinese stock market has been to calmly step in with regulations that restrict investor withdrawals. Both the China Securities Regulatory Commission and the Chinese police are launched criminal investigations.

The US wants to obstruct the pivotal role the Chinese play in financing major banking, infrastructure, and development projects that challenge Washington’s global influence. The crashing of the Chinese stock market is aimed at initiating panic among investors. Ultimately, the move is primed to undermine the economic vigor of the People’s Republic with the goal of crippling the New Silk Road and Beijing’s project to create an alternative world order with Russia and their BRICS, SCO, and EEU partners.
 
China, as it seems to me, is 'covertly' a part of the Western based financial system (Rotschilds are behind Beijing). The corporate debt is Astonishing - 160% of GDP- 16,1 trillion $ and rising fast.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/19/china-debt-companies-idUSL4N0ZX1C320150719
 
Mal7 said:
I think the fall in the Chinese stock market could just be a market correction to a bubble earlier on in this year. If you look at graphs, the recent crash at its lowest point only reduced the index to the same point it had been at earlier this year. The Shanghai Composite Index was at about 3,300 at the beginning of 2015, climbing rapidly this year to over 5,000 and then falling recently to a low of about 3,500. It is now back up again to about 4,000. By contrast in 2008 the Dow Jones fell to a point it hadn't been at since 1997 (from about 14,000 to about 6,500). Perhaps the recent Chinese crash could even be seen as a sign of a healthy functioning market, in the sense that bubbles are not allowed to grow to big, and a smaller crash now might be something that prevents a bigger more catastrophic crash in the future (as looks likely to be coming for the US markets).

My numbers are obtained from looking at the graphs on these sites (you can adjust the time period shown):

_http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/stock-market
-http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia/charts?symb=DJIA&countrycode=US&time=100&startdate=1%2F4%2F1990&enddate=7%2F18%2F2015&freq=1&compidx=none&compind=none&comptemptext=Enter+Symbol%28s%29&comp=none&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&style=1013

I agree with Mal7, the recent fall looks like a normal correction following a rapid rise in the stock price over the last year. The same applies to all markets, including precious metals where the price of gold and silver have been deflating after a decade-long rise.

The fact that the Chinese government allowed foreign investors to invest in more products and acquire up to a 30% share of a company has led to more money being pumped into the stock market. This, coupled with increased participation from the Chinese people who have been gaining increased access to the internet, has definitely been a contributing factor to the price rise. In a way, it feels similar to the dotcom bubble in the late 90s, at a time when the average person could now trade the stock market via online trading platforms on any PC and investors started throwing money at tech companies and startups.

Will be interesting to see how the current situation develops. I would hope for a slow and sustained decline in the Shanghai Composite Index. If we quickly resume the price rise, it will be followed by an even deeper and longer correction.
 
SouthFront Foreign Policy Diary:
http://thesaker.is/foreign-policy-diary-the-us-china-standoff-in-the-indo-asia-pacific-region/
 
Another good guest post by Jeff J. Brown for the Moscow-Beijing Express series on Saker's blog (with few exceptions, very interesting perspective) about the historical significance of the Ufa BRICS-SCO Summit:
http://thesaker.is/bretton-woods-conference-july-1-22-1944-then-ufa-sco-brics-summit-july-6-10-2015-now/
 
Re: Pro-China bias on SOTT?

hlat said:
The Communist Chinese regime has been a brutal psychopathic one, so it is quite surprising to me to see an argument here that their propaganda is substantially accurate. It may be better to say the US regime is super-psychopathic and the Chinese regime is regular-psychopathic. The Chinese government elite are lying liars and I believe it is a mistake to suggest that their propaganda approaches objective reality. The shameful history under the rule of Mao is a prime example of psychopaths run amok.

They're all assholes at the top. Have been ever since psychopathy existed. I'd hate to think there was any bias between who makes the better asshole on the planet at any one time. :O
 
Re: Pro-China bias on SOTT?

Ruth said:
They're all assholes at the top. Have been ever since psychopathy existed. I'd hate to think there was any bias between who makes the better asshole on the planet at any one time. :O

There was a lot of this type of thinking in alternative news communities during the start of the crisis in Ukraine towards Russia and Putin, and while I think it's not as strong as it was, it does still persist. Things like 'Putin is a mason', 'he's a KGB agent', 'he's friends with Jews' or 'he hates gays' are used as a catch-all to describe Putin as evil. But these tactics are seriously lacking in substance. It's pretty similar to the use of slogans and catch phrases that we see repeated in MSM.

This idea that China is evil because of human rights violations is championed by NGO's that have opened the doors to more suffering and chaos than anyone else. Legitimate grievances do exist, but the point many seem to miss is how these things are amplified and used to define a country and it's actions. That's the essence of black and white thinking and we need more than that when looking at the world stage.
 
Re: Pro-China bias on SOTT?

Renaissance said:
Ruth said:
They're all assholes at the top. Have been ever since psychopathy existed. I'd hate to think there was any bias between who makes the better asshole on the planet at any one time. :O

There was a lot of this type of thinking in alternative news communities during the start of the crisis in Ukraine towards Russia and Putin, and while I think it's not as strong as it was, it does still persist. Things like 'Putin is a mason', 'he's a KGB agent', 'he's friends with Jews' or 'he hates gays' are used as a catch-all to describe Putin as evil. But these tactics are seriously lacking in substance. It's pretty similar to the use of slogans and catch phrases that we see repeated in MSM.

This idea that China is evil because of human rights violations is championed by NGO's that have opened the doors to more suffering and chaos than anyone else. Legitimate grievances do exist, but the point many seem to miss is how these things are amplified and used to define a country and it's actions. That's the essence of black and white thinking and we need more than that when looking at the world stage.

Pretty much what we've been saying throughout this thread. Thanks for the summary.
 
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