The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!

The real-life Day After Tomorrow: The Gulf Stream could COLLAPSE as early as 2025 - plunging Europe into a deep freeze, scientists warn


12 February 2024
In the 2004 film The Day After Tomorrow, humanity is plunged into a nightmarish international storm that sends the planet into a new ice age.

And although the blockbuster was consigned to the realms of sci-fi, the science behind the frightening scenario is true.

In a matter of years, melting glaciers could shut down the Gulf Stream - the system of currents that brings warmth to the northern hemisphere, experts say.

Without this additional heat source, average temperatures could drop by several degrees in North America, parts of Asia and Europe, and people would see 'severe and cascading consequences around the world'.

Scientists warn that an abrupt shutdown of Atlantic Ocean currents is looking more likely than ever, as computer simulations find a 'cliff-like' tipping point looming in the near future.

In some parts of Europe, collapse of a large system of ocean currents called the AMOC could lead to a temperature decrease of more than 5.4°F (3°C) per 10 years


In some parts of Europe, collapse of a large system of ocean currents called the AMOC could lead to a temperature decrease of more than 5.4°F (3°C) per 10 years

In the Hollywood blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow (pictured), ocean currents around the world stop as a result of global warming, triggering a new ice age on Earth


In the Hollywood blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow (pictured), ocean currents around the world stop as a result of global warming, triggering a new ice age on Earth

The study authors, from Utrecht University in the Netherlands, don't know exactly when the collapse will happen, although a previous study put it as soon as next year.

'We are moving closer to the collapse, but we're not sure how much closer,' said lead author Rene van Westen, a climate scientist and oceanographer at Utrecht University.

'We are heading towards a tipping point.'

When a global weather calamity like the one in The Day After Tomorrow may happen is 'the million-dollar question', according to van Westen.

'We unfortunately can't answer [that] at the moment,' he said.

'It also depends on the rate of climate change we are inducing as humanity.'

The Gulf Stream is part of a much wider system of currents, officially called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC.

Described as 'the conveyor belt of the ocean', it transports warm water near the ocean's surface northwards – from the tropics up to the northern hemisphere.

When the warm water reaches the North Atlantic (around Europe and the UK, and the US east coast), it releases the heat and freezes.

As this ice forms, salt is left behind in the ocean water.

Due to the large amount of salt in the water, it becomes denser, sinks , and is carried southwards in the depths below.

Eventually, the water gets pulled back up towards the surface and warms up in a process called upwelling, completing the cycle.

Scientists think AMOC brings enough warmth to the northern hemisphere that without it, large parts of Europe could enter a deep freeze.

Formally known as the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), it powers the Gulf Stream that brings warm water from the Gulf of Mexico to the northeastern US coast


Formally known as the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC), it powers the Gulf Stream that brings warm water from the Gulf of Mexico to the northeastern US coast

Prior studies have already shown that due to climate change, the AMOC is slowing down.

The engine of this conveyor belt is off the coast of Greenland, where, as more ice melts from climate change, more freshwater flows into the North Atlantic and slows everything down.

The new study forecasts that an abrupt shutdown of the AMOC could happen in the next few decades, rather than the next few centuries as previously thought.

The researchers designed a computer modelling simulation in which they were able to measure a sudden weakening of the ocean circulation.

The simulation introduced freshwater into the Atlantic Ocean, and as a result, the circulation strength gradually decreased until it reached a critical 'tipping point' and collapsed.

According to the results, the European climate will cool by about 1.8°F (1°C) per decade, and some regions will even experience over 5.4°F (3°C) cooling per decade – much faster than today’s global warming of about 0.36 F (0.2 C) per decade.

Aside from plunging countries into a deep freeze, this would extend Arctic ice further south, turn up the heat even more in the southern hemisphere, change global rainfall patterns and disrupt the Amazon rainforest.

Other scientists say it would be a catastrophe that could cause worldwide food and water shortages.

AMOC collapse: It would change weather worldwide because it means a shutdown of one of key the climate and ocean forces of the planet. It would plunge northwestern European temperatures by 9 to 27 degrees (5 to 15 degrees Celsius) over the decades


AMOC collapse: It would change weather worldwide because it means a shutdown of one of key the climate and ocean forces of the planet. It would plunge northwestern European temperatures by 9 to 27 degrees (5 to 15 degrees Celsius) over the decades
'We found that once it reaches the tipping point, the conveyor belt shuts down within 100 years,' the authors said.

'The heat transport toward the north is strongly reduced, leading to abrupt climate shifts.'

The one thing they couldn't identify is when exactly this tipping point will be reached, although it is at least decades away if not longer.

'The research makes a convincing case that the AMOC is approaching a tipping point based on a robust, physically-based early warning indicator,' said Tim Lenton, chairman in climate change at University of Exeter, who was not involved with the study.

'What it cannot (and does not) say is how close the tipping point, because as it shows that there is insufficient data to make a statistically reliable estimate of that.'

The study has been published in the journal Science Advances.

What would the world look like if the Gulf Stream collapsed?​


If the AMOC was to collapse, far less heat would reach western Europe and the region would be plunged into very severe winters, the kind of scenario depicted in an extreme fashion in the movie The Day After Tomorrow.

Until the 1800s, it was relatively stable but the current declined after the so-called 'Little Ice Age' ended in 1850.

Temperatures dropped low enough that the River Thames completely froze over and records show Londoners crossing the waterway on foot.

The last shutdown was probably at the end of the last Ice Age, 12,000 years ago, and it prompted a temperature drop of 5°C to 10°C in western Europe.

In the event of another collapse, not only would European winters become much colder but summer droughts, storms and heatwaves would likely become more common.

Sea levels could rise up to nearly 20 inches around the North Atlantic Basin, which surrounds the eastern US coast.

This would eventually push people living along the coast further inland to escape flooding. A widespread collapse of deep-sea eco-systems would occur.

In the US, Florida would be particularly badly affected as the flow of water northwards would be halted, seeing it collect on the state's shoreline.

A study published last year looked at how the cessation of the AMOC may impact the UK specifically.

The Little Ice Age, a centuries-long cold period that lasted until about 1850. Experts believe that as the North Atlantic began to warm near the end of the Little Ice Age, freshwater disrupted the system. Pictured is Thames Frost Fair, 1683–84, by Thomas Wyke


The Little Ice Age, a centuries-long cold period that lasted until about 1850. Experts believe that as the North Atlantic began to warm near the end of the Little Ice Age, freshwater disrupted the system. Pictured is Thames Frost Fair, 1683–84, by Thomas Wyke
University of Exeter researchers made a computer model and found that by 2080 the weather would be 3.4°C colder than it was last year.

Rainfall during the growing season is expected to drop by 123mm, they added.

This, Ars Technica reports, is enough to reduce the UK's arable land from 32 percent to just seven percent, greatly affecting food production.

The effects would be felt not in Europe and the United States, with forecasts also projecting that the collapse of the AMOC would also increase drought in the Sahel in Africa.
 
The real-life Day After Tomorrow: The Gulf Stream could COLLAPSE as early as 2025 - plunging Europe into a deep freeze, scientists warn
The 2024 U.S. Presidential election will certainly start the snowball rolling!
Q: (Perceval) Is this in reference to the ice age in terms of the blame that people give to the government and that causes the revolution?
A: There are a few more steps before an ice age. Some of them not very pleasant.

Q: (Perceval) Earthquakes, volcanoes, economic collapse...(Burma Jones) Mass starvation. (Perceval) Plague. (L) Crop failure.
A: All of those and more.
 
Here's expert conclusion regarding latest winter in Russia.

Wilfand, scientific director of the Russian Hydrometeorological Center, on the abnormal winter: The heterogeneity of the weather, of course, is impressive this year. There is very little of what is called normal winter weather, which corresponds to the climate. Frequent thaws are followed by frequent abnormal frosts. A very snowy winter. The fact is that meteorologists estimate snowiness not by the height of snow, but by its density. So the density of snow is very high, it has not been like this for several decades.
 
Another article on the coming ice-age! 🥶

For ice extent in the Arctic, the bar is set at 15M km2. The highest daily average in the last 18 years occurs on day 61 at 15.08M before descending. Most years are able to clear 15M, but in recent previous years, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2021 ice extents failed to clear the bar at 15M km2. Now on February 11, 2024 (day 42) Arctic ice extent has already leaped over that bar 20 days early.

 

Sandstorms, Cold wave hits Xinjiang -52.3℃ ❄️ breaks record, Hunan cooling map turns black

1708368433713.png. Mainland China is experiencing widespread cooling . Among them, Xinjiang has experienced the strongest cold wave weather this year, with the lowesemperature falling to -52.3℃; Hunan has undergone a huge change in temperature, with the cooling map turning red to black , and the meteorological observatory has called it exciting; the temperature in Hubei has dropped by 20℃, and the start of primary and secondary schools in Wuhan has been delayed.

Sand and dust weather, local sandstorms or strong sandstorms occurred in the southern Xinjiang Basin, western Inner Mongolia, central and eastern Gansu, Ningxia, Shaanxi and other places. Northwest, North China, Northeast China, Inner Mongolia and other places experienced significant cooling, with local temperature drops exceeding 20°C.

After the Chinese New Year in 2024, Xinjiang was the first to experience rare sandstorm and strong winds. The sky is red and orange and netizens think it is
a strange world ...
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❄️California and Nevada monster blizzard ❄️ 🏔️

While Texas burns, California freezes under a storm. On the West Coast, California's Sierra Nevada mountain range was battered Friday by a snowstorm, with ten and a half feet of accumulation.
The powerful blizzard that a meteorologist termed “as bad as it gets” howled in the Sierra Nevada mountains, closing a long stretch of Interstate 80 in Northern California, forcing ski resorts to shut down, and leaving tens of thousands of homes without power.
Meteorologists explained that this weather system is particularly strong and very cold, coming from the Pacific Northwest, carrying a lot of moisture inland.
"It turns out that this has the perfect combination of enough cold air and the path of the storm that it causes a lot of snow to flow into the mountains," Courtney Carpenter, of the National Weather Service in Sacramento, told the San Francisco Chronicle. She explained that a storm of this magnitude occurs once every few years.


 
The current trends for sunspot number and solar flux progression are higher than predicted by NOAA. It shows end of the current solar maximum in 2026.


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I got a little hopeful, but I recalled that Pierre mentioned that this type of trend projection can't be trusted. Sometimes there is an early jump, and then a slump.

Notice that similar spikes occurred during previous Solar cycles - see for example the red arrow during Solar cycle 24 - without them deviating from the smoothed average. In other terms, the spike might not announce a "terminator event":

sunspotcounts.png


Global cooling (ice Age) can due to several factors. Weak Solar Cycle is one factor (Maunder minimum for example) but irrespective of the amplitude on the Solar Cycle, you can have have an ice Age due cometary impacts (the younger Dryas, or closer to us the Late Antiquity Little Ice Age ca. 540 AD)
 
The current trends for sunspot number and solar flux progression are higher than predicted by NOAA. It shows end of the current solar maximum in 2026.
[...]


I got a little hopeful, but I recalled that Pierre mentioned that this type of trend projection can't be trusted. Sometimes there is an early jump, and then a slump.

For anyone that didn't see this article already, published Oct 2023, i thought it was interesting in light of the 'unusual' activity of solar cycle 25.

In short, it details how, because NOAA's 2019 solar cycle 25 forecasts were so off, they've now moved to monthly forecasts 'for the first time in its history'.


Snippet:

Several signs this year revealed that the solar maximum is going to arrive sooner and be more active than expected, including a 20-year sunspot peak, massive X-class solar flares, extensive aurora displays at lower latitudes and rising temperatures in the upper atmosphere, as well as the appearance of streaks of light, known as airglow, and the disappearance of noctilucent, or night-shining, clouds.

It is unclear why the prediction panel's forecast was wrong or why an updated prediction was not released sooner, despite warning signs coming for years. For instance, in 2020, a group of scientists led by Scott McIntosh, a solar physicist and deputy director of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado, used historic sunspot and magnetic field data to predict the solar maximum would be more active and arrive sooner than expected.

A more active peak in solar activity could create disruptions on Earth: If large solar storms smash into our planet they can cause radio blackouts, damage power infrastructure, irradiate airline passengers and astronauts and knock out GPS and internet satellites — some of which could actually fall from the sky.
[...]
To prevent further confusion for the remainder of Solar Cycle 25, SWPC will now shift to a more flexible forecast system for the first time in its history, which will be updated at the start of every month.
 
There was an absolutely huge amount of ice-age damage to vineyards in Southern BC, Canada. This will be a major blow to the local tourist industry. The damage will likely extend to cherries and other soft fruits, possibly apples as well.


Catastrophic might not even begin to describe the situation when it comes to Okanagan wineries and vineyards this year.

In fact, there is a good chance there will be no grapes grown in the valley this year at all.

A report conducted by the wine industry and a leading B.C. management consulting firm has determined mid-January’s cold snap will mean production of B.C. grapes and wine is projected to be 97-99% lower than usual in 2024. The report says the financial damage for wineries and vineyards could be $346 million and as much as $445 million when you include industry suppliers, logistics providers and distributors.

“Due to the extent of damage to primary and secondary buds observed across a wide range of regions and grape varieties, the January 2024 cold event is anticipated to result in catastrophic crop losses within the B.C. wine industry,” Cascadia Partners wrote in its report for Wines of British Columbia.

“Preliminary industry-wide estimates are that the crop will produce just 1-3% of typical yields, with the majority of that coming from unaffected regions such as the Fraser Valley and Vancouver Island.”

The cold snap, which took place between Jan. 11 and 15, caused severe damage to 32 grape varieties in nine Interior regions. The vast majority of samples taken after the cold snap showed no signs of life in their primary or secondary buds.

Temperatures plunged well below the -20 C threshold in the Okanagan and was below that devastating mark for 50 cumulative hours in the North Okanagan.

This is the second straight year frigid temperatures have devastated Okanagan wineries and vineyards. A preliminary crop report from the BC Wine Grape Council found the shorter cold snap in December 2022 resulted in a 58% reduction in industry wide grape and wine production in 2023. The same research that predicts a 97% to 99% loss this year estimated a 56% reduction last year.

“This initial finding represents an enormous challenge for the B.C. wine industry in 2024 and beyond,” Cascadia Partners wrote in the report. “Facing an almost complete write-off of the 2024 vintage, B.C. wineries will struggle to keep 100 percent B.C. wine stocked on retail shelves, to supply hospitality channels and to fulfil wine club subscriptions.

“Longer term impacts on grapevine health, including the need to replant, are also anticipated but cannot be precisely estimated until later in the year. These impacts not only amplify the revenue losses above, but also require significant capital outlay from vineyards and wineries to rebuild their agricultural foundation.”

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Photo: Cascadia Partners

This will also affect the labour market, as many migrants workers flock to the region every year to work. It's likely that the industry will soon realize that it's no longer viable to make wine in Canada. I don't know what will happen, but it's likely that this will be a huge economic shift in the region.
 

Afif Desert sees exceptional snowfall in Saudi Arabia 🐪❄️

The unexpected snowfall occurred amidst forecasts from weather maps and computer simulations predicting a new weather system to arrive in Saudi Arabia starting on Sunday.
This system is expected to bring widespread rainfall to the Kingdom, accompanied by thunderstorms, hail, and gusty winds, as reported by the publication.
Arabian weather indicated the likelihood of rain on Monday and Tuesday as a depression approached the northern regions of the Kingdom.

desert. Afif.png The Afif desert, west of Riyadh.

 
The polar vortex is a large-scale persistent cyclone located near the polar terrestrial zones, and are located in the mid- and upper troposphere and stratosphere. When the polar vortex is strong and stable, it helps to confine cold air in the polar regions. When the vortex weakens or is disrupted, cold air spills into lower latitudes.
The stratospheric polar vortex has been pretty active this winter. The screaming-fast winds that circle the North Pole high above the surface during Polar Night have completely reversed twice.
This month's reverse vortex has not caused a winter weather outbreak. Instead, it has produced a very strong increase in polar ozone


THE POLAR VORTEX IS SPINNING 🌪️ BACKWARDS

The polar vortex changed direction around March 4, 2024, reports Dr. Amy Butler, author of NOAA's Polar Vortex Blog. It was a substantial change, reaching -20.5 m/s a few days ago, placing it among the six strongest events of this type since 1979
wo weeks later, it is still spinning backwards. What's going on?

"Atmospheric planetary waves have been breaking in the polar stratosphere, increasing its temperature," says Butler. "We call this a 'Sudden Stratospheric Warming' event, and it can cause the vortex to change direction.'"

Sudden Stratospheric Warming events accelerate the transport of ozone from the tropics to the poles," explains Butler. "Also, warming air helps prevent chemical ozone loss.".

1711028859763.png.1711028924156.png 1.Evolution of ozone concentration in the North Pole areas. NOAA.

2.Evolution of temperature in the lower stratosphere, 150 hPa,
with sudden stratospheric warming, SWW, noted in the March 2024 text. NOAA
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3.Conceptual model of the stratospheric polar vortex, under normal conditions, and the polar jet. NOAA

 
Okay, so I'm wondering about something from ice age material in the sessions. Rebound has been mentioned a few times in the sessions.

A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.

Q: (L) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and also the fourth!.

A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chlorofluorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways. Be vigilant. Be observant. Be cautious in your planning and be aware. Do not let emotional anomalies cloud your knowledge base. This is not a "time" to let one's guard down. Be especially careful of travel to unfamiliar locators, as well as sleeping in unfamiliar surroundings!!! You are being watched. Or, at least, it is best to assume you are, and act, think, and prepare accordingly. Remember what you have been warned about concerning attack. As you learn more and know more, you become more interesting... and, when your ranks swell, you are more vulnerable unless you are more aware!!

Q: (L) All right, were those given in the order in which they are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?

A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, much faster than thought.

Q: Was the ice piled up at the poles? The ice sheet of the ice age?

A: Yes.

Q: So, Atlantis existed during the ice age?

A: Largely, yes. And the world's climate was scarcely any colder away from the ice sheets than it is today.

So this is the bit that I'm wondering about mostly. In Atlantis times, the climate was not much colder away from the ice sheets than it is today. So what does that mean? Giant walls of ice - but also a relatively warm and temperate zone just South of them, with enough miles of green grass for healthy populations of mammoths and other megafauna?

Here's an estimate for the ice extent of the last glacial maximum:


And here's a pic of vegetation patterns from those strange Atlantean times:


So what does this mean? I'm not sure. Glacial rebound implies an ice age of some type and degree, which implies a temperature drop to some degree. Doesn't it? So I'm wondering about an assumption of mine, namely that the incoming ice age will come with a drop in temperature. I was picturing something like a nuclear winter, but with comets or a volcanic event. So that's a more catastrophic ice age scenario.

Could it be that ice ages or periods of quick glacial rebound can also come in a more mild form, with relatively stable before-and-after temperatures, occurring due to certain tipping point being reached? Like the glaciers just start growing like mad over just the course of a few months, due in part to atmospheric changes and massive precipitation in Northern climes, triggered by something like the AMOC shutdown, for instance, but without a serious volcanic or cometary event, AND without a much more serious drop in global temperature?

So yeah, basically I'm not sure how else to interpret the idea that the world's climate was not much colder away from the ice sheets. I'm guessing that there are very different ways to start an ice age.

The session continues:

Q: Well, how could that be? What caused these glaciers?

A: Global warming.

Q: How does global warming cause glaciers?

A: Increases precipitation dramatically. Then moves the belt of great precipitation much farther north. This causes rapid buildup of ice sheets, followed by increasingly rapid and intense glacial rebound.

And there's another session about it:

(Turgonl) About the weather here in Canada... It's been fluctuating between hot and cold this summer, and in the winter time. And we were just wondering, is the way the ice age is going to occur, will the summers just start to get cooler and cooler with the precipitation as time goes on over the next few years?

A: No, glacial rebound will fall within months when the tipping point is reached.

Anyways, I hope my question makes sense.
 
I think that's the right idea. Earth in its current temperature already has the capacity to generate and maintain a huge mass of ice, it just needs enough precipitation in the right areas, favourable air and water movement patterns and the albedo effect does the rest. Once it's there it will not be easily melted.
 
Could it be that ice ages or periods of quick glacial rebound can also come in a more mild form, with relatively stable before-and-after temperatures, occurring due to certain tipping point being reached?
Maybe it will be the case once the new ice age settles. But there will probably be many things preceding that, some of which are "not so pleasant".
 
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