have emphasized the importance of Frequency Resonance Vibration. They
have also indicated that the Self Serving Negative Hierarchy meddles with
it by way of rituals, by way of "beliefs," by way of tampering
with DNA via "abduction" processes, and so forth. They have
indicated that the Service to Others alignment acts in accordance with
the natural order of things.
tells us over and over again that Plato was an initiate, and he drops
clues everywhere that the "Egyptian" version - as it is promulgated
- is not the true source of higher positive knowledge. The clues are given
to us in Plato's writings that the Atlanteans were an "evil empire"
that attempted to conquer the world, and were defeated by the "Athenians,"
giving rise to the archetypal legend of Perseus and Andromeda.
is certainly a mysterious "gap" here that begs explanation.
Let's have a look at what the C's have said about it:
Q: (L) In a previous session you said that the pyramid was built 10,643
years ago. That would be 8,649 BC. Is that a correct figure, or was
there any corruption?
A: Yes. Correct.
Q: Then you talked about the pyramid as a focuser of energy to do 'all
things' or many things. Later we asked about Stonehenge and you said
that Stonehenge was built 6,000 BC by Druids, an early Aryan group,
as an energy director to do 'all things.' This seems to be that both
structures had similar design functions. Is that correct?
A: No. Stonehenge is a vector of energy derived from Solar and Cosmic
rays. Pyramids focus electromagnetic energy from the atmosphere ambiently.
Stonehenge was built 8,000 BC, by the way.
Q: If it was built in 8,000 BC, and the Pyramids were built 8,649 BC,
which is 10,643 years ago, more or less, that means that they were built
at almost the same time, or at least within 600 years of each other.
If they were built at almost the same time, were they built by the same,
or similar groups of people?
A: Atlantean descendants.
Q: Obviously the Great Pyramid is a marvel of engineering - and Stonehenge
is as well - yet the two structures are so dissimilar. The Pyramid presents
such a finished and sharp and elegant appearance, and Stonehenge might
give a person - of course that is based on how it appears today - a
more primitive presentation.
A: Was not originally.
Q: Did they work in conjunction with one another and were the two groups
that built them in communication with one another?
A: No and yes.
Q: Was it two different groups? One with the Stonehenge business and
one with the Pyramid business?
A: Offshoots of same group.
A: Were they antagonistic toward one another or were they friendly toward
A: No, yes.
Q: If the flood of Noah, as you have said before, occurred 10,662 BC,
that means that the Pyramid and Stonehenge were built more than 2,000
years after this event.
Q: Did it take 2,000 years for them to develop or create the technology?
Q: What were they doing in those 2,000 years?
Q: In that 2,000 years of reassembling, do you mean reassembling as
a group through reincarnative processes...
Now, we face
a dilemma here. There were obviously two approaches to reality being taken
by these two groups. It is stated that they did not work in conjunction
with one another, yet, we also see that they were not antagonistic toward
one another, and they were in communication with one another. Further,
the remark is made that they were "offshoots" of the same group:
i.e. "Atlantean Descendants."
the idea of Atlantis, the C's have made a few most interesting remarks
that can be clearly understood by observing our own civilization today:
Q: (L) Was the story of Noah's flood the story of the breaking up of
A: Yes. But symbolic.
Q: (L) How many people were on the planet at that time?
A: 6 billion.
Q: (L) Out of this six billion people, how many survived?
A: 119 million. (or 19 million) [I am not sure of this figure. The early
tapes were destroyed, and the notes have the number both ways with a
couple of cross-outs.]
Q: (L) Can you tell us more about the six billion people on the planet
at the time of Noah's flood. Where were most of these beings living?
Q: Okay. I would like to know what the geographic coordinates, according
to our current grid system, that would frame Atlantis. I don't need
the exact shape, just a general box shape... the perimeter...
A: Like asking: "What are the geographic coordinates of the North Atlantic
Q: Okay, let me get more specific: the Atlantean land that was supposed
to have existed in the Atlantic Ocean... what was the farthest north
of any any part of Atlantis that was in the ocean, that no longer exists?
A: It is "time for you" to know that Atlantis was not a nation, land,
Island, or continent, but rather, a civilization!
Q: All I wanted was to have an idea of a land mass in the Atlantic ocean
that people talk about - where did it sit?
A: Where do you think?
Q: Well, I sort of think that the Azores and the Canary Islands are
A: Yes, but many other places too. Remember, the sea level was several
hundred feet lower then...
Q: Why was the sea level several hundred feet lower? Because there was
ice somewhere or because there was not as much water on the earth at
Q: Was the ice piled up at the poles? The ice sheet of the ice age?
Q: So, Atlantis existed during the ice age?
A: Largely, yes. And the world's climate was scarcely any colder away
from the ice sheets than it is today.
Q: Well, how could that be? What caused these glaciers?
A: Global warming.
Q: How does global warming cause glaciers?
A: Increases precipitation dramatically. Then moves the belt of great
precipitation much farther north. This causes rapid buildup of ice sheets,
followed by increasingly rapid and intense glacial rebound.
As an aside,
regarding "glacial rebound," the C's have also commented:
A: [...] One change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound,
over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much,
much faster than thought.
back to Atlantis, the global civilization that must have been similar
in many ways to our own. Notice that the C's made a specific comparison
to NATO, or a "World Government" sort of thing. The deeper implications
of this remark suggest that a certain "group" conceives of such
an organization, and "sells" it to other countries, and then
it is used as a platform to institute global economic control. And that
is exactly what is happening today, and it began with NATO and, as we
showed in our analysis of Game Theory, it is the platform upon which the
New World Order, based on Egyptian Synarchy and the work of Schwaller
de Lubicz is intended to be based.
words, the North and South American continents could very well be the
"island of Atlantis." And all of the evidence we have collected
about the prior destruction of North America, including the evidence of
nuclear fission in the Great Lakes region, the vast copper mines of Isle
Royale, evidence that Tiahuanaco used to be a seaport and the astronomical
evidence that the ancient cities of South Americs were built at least
15,000 years ago, point to the America's being Atlantis itself.
Q: What group mined the copper in northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, and
Michigan, like in Isle Royale?
Q: What did they want the copper for?
Q: Wouldn't iron make better weapons?
A: Not in 4th density.
Q: I'm getting the feeling that there have been bleed-in, bleed-out
situations with 4th density on this planet a lot more often than we
Q: Are these situations sometimes manufactured by those who know how?
Q: Do they just happen to know where those window points are?
Q: Is it significant that Rock Lake is on the same longitude line as
In all the
Celtic folklore when they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other
density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,' these fairy/aliens
insist that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said
that bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling'
would prove whether or not they were because if they were, they would
disappear instantly. Also, the instructions for the building of the Temple
of Solomon included restrictions on the use of iron in either the preparation
of the materials or the putting together of the building itself, even
down to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part.
in his new book "Atlantis: The Andes solution" attempts
to show that the Altiplano area in Bolivia is really part of the continent
that held the city of Atlantis. He makes another connection by pointing
out that ATL is the Nahuatl word for water and ANTIS is the Quechua is
word for copper. And so, by his reasoning, ATL-ANTIS must be a word from
South America meaning Copper-Water.
of needing "4th density weapons" made of copper, combined with
Allen's idea above leads to another interesting comment made by the C's:
Q: Who built the city of Mohenjo-Daro?
A: Lizards directly. Coatzlmundi legend ties in to this directly. Look
at illustrations on stones now.
Q: Who is Coatzlmundi?
A: Other deity of the Lizards worshipped by the Atlanteans and their
descendants because of the direct contact with humans for 1000 years.
Q: (L) Did any aliens at all, and specifically the Lizzies, ever live
among mankind and receive worship?
A: They did not live among mankind, but they did interact directly with
human beings, at various points in the past. It was at those points
when human beings were ready, willing and able to accept deities appearing
directly from outside sources and then worship them. Such things would
not have occurred in the recent past. But, beware, it may very well
occur very soon. [...]
Q: (L) Who built the city of Angkor Wat?
A: That was built by the Lizard Beings themselves. Built approximately
3108 years ago.
Q: (L) Who built the city of Mohenjo Daro?
A: That also was built by the Lizard Beings directly.
Q: (L) Did they live in these cities?
A: No, as stated before, they did not live there, they visited or occupied
on a temporary basis, but did not live there.
Q: (L) Who did they build the cities for?
A: They built the cities for themselves and their worshippers amongst
Q: We watched this television show the other night which talked about
the city of Angkor Wat and its orientation to Draco 10,500 BC. You said
that Angkor Wat was built 3108 years ago by the Lizzies themselves,
and that the city of Mohenjo Daro was also built by the Lizzies 3065
years ago, which is within 30 or 40 years of the same time period. Do
you still confirm that the Lizzies themselves built these cities?
A: Reptilian Beings.
Q: And they did this themselves?
Q: What happened to the inhabitants of these cities?
A: Taken to another planet.
Q: Why was this city built in orientation to the constellation Draco?
A: Was not, was a record: see the texts of Kaballah for details after
linkage is established.
Q: After what linkage is established?
A: Between the astronomical data and the sites.
Q: (L) You said that the Lizzies lived among humans for a thousand years.
When, in our illusion of time, did this occur?
A: During peak of Atlantis.
Q: (L) And how long was the Atlantean civilization in existence?
A: 70,000 years
Q: It also says here that on this pyramid, at the time of the Spring
and Autumn equinoxes, combined patterns of light and dark combine to
create the illusion of a giant serpent undulating on the northern staircase.
On each occassion the illusion lasts for 3 hours and 22 minutes exactly.
What was this optical illusion created to convey?
A: Worship of serpentine deity.
Q: Was it created to convey or produce any other effect other than worship?
A: The key is in the reading of the geometric cycle.
Q: On page 80, the book talks about these statues at Tiahuanaco on Lake
Titicaca. It says:
in red sandstone, worn and ancient beyond reckoning, the statue stands
about 6 feet high and portrays a humanoid, androgynous being with
massive eyes and lips. In it's right hand it clutches something resembling
a knife with a wavy blade like an Indonesian kris. In it's left hand
is an object like a hinged and case-bound book. From the top of this
book, however, protruded a device which had been inserted into it
as though into a sheath. From the waist down, the figure seemed to
be clad in a garment of fish scales.'
is another statue with an object in it's left hand that is like a case
bound book, but from it protruded a forked handle. The right hand object
was roughly cylindrical, narrow in the center and bigger at each end.
It appeared to have several different parts. I would like to know what
these objects, or devices, carved into these ancient statues represented?
Q: What did these conductors conduct? Were these the sound machines
that you have described previously?
Q: What did they conduct?
A: Quartzine energy from atmospheric source.
Q: What was this energy used for?
Q: Well you have described a lot of things that did all kinds of things...
the pyramid, Stonehenge...
A: When one harnesses free energy, no limitations need apply.
Q: Why were these beings depicted with these fish-like garments?
A: Reptoids have that genetic profile to varying degrees.
Q: According to the Sumerian traditions, this was like the god Oannes.
In the night time, he would plunge back into the sea, but in the daytime
he would converse with men, giving them insight into letters and sciences
and every kind of art. But, it was noted that he was never observed
to eat. It says that he taught men how to construct houses, temples,
to compile laws, and explained to them the principles of geometric knowledge.
He made them distinguish the seeds of the earth and made them gather
fruits. In short, he instructed them in everything that would tend to
soften manners and humanize mankind. From that time, so universal were
his instructions, that nothing has been added materially in the way
of improvement. The surviving images of Oannes on Babylonian and Assyrian
reliefs clearly portray him as a fish man. Is this another similar profile?
A: "El legato."
Q: Was this Oannes fish man similar to the Quinotaur that was supposedly
the half-father of the Merovingian royal line?
A: Only if one considers losses in the translative quarry.
Q: I have this book, this Marcia Schafer thing: "Confessions of an Intergalactic
Anthropologist," and its a bunch of channelled stuff; one thing she
says: "the snake is associated with the sign of wisdom and higher learning,
and is often regarded quite highly in mystical circles." She had an
interaction with a rattlesnake, for which she felt sympathy, and she
also has sympathetic interactions with Lizzies. I would like to have
a comment on the idea of the snake as a "sign of wisdom and higher learning."
Does this, in fact, represent what the snake symbolizes?
A: Snake is/was reported in context of the viewpoint of the observer.
Q: Are you saying that when the observer's viewpoint is that the snake
is a symbol of higher learning, maybe...
A: Maybe the observer was just "blown away" by the experience.
Q: Clarify, please.
A: If you were living in the desert, or jungle, about 7,000 years ago,
as you measure time, would you not be impressed if these Reptoid "dudes"
came down from the heavens in silvery objects and demonstrated techno-wonders
from thousands of years in the future, and taught you calculus, geometry
and astrophysics to boot?!?
Q: Is that, in fact, what happened?
Q: (L) Who created the Lizzies?
Q: (L) And who is this individual?
A: Thought center.
Q: (L) Located where?
Q: (L) Can you give us a little more of a clue?
A: Another sector of reality.
Q: (L) Is this a sentient, self-aware being that created the Lizzies?
A: Yes and no.[...]
Q: (L) And who created this Ormethion?
A: Not being; thought center.
Q: Is Ormethion who the Lizzies worship?
Q: Who do they worship? What do they call their god?
A: Physical universe.
Q: The physical universe is their god?
Q: (L) What are the implications of the fact that the Lizzies worship
the physical universe?
A: Self service.
Q: (L) What do they see in the physical universe that they feel is superior
to the spiritual universe?
A: All who serve self yearn for physicality.
Q: (L) These bodies they are creating for themselves, are they creating
some kind of super physical beings they can then move into and occupy
which will have very advanced abilities that would enable them to serve
self better, longer or more completely?
between South America, Mohenjo Daro in the Indus Valley, and Egypt and
Judaism/Kaballah will be more important further along, so keep it in mind.
a somewhat confusing remark about Atlantis:
centre of the island, near the sea, was a plain, said to be the most
beautiful and fertile of all plains, and near the middle of this plain
about fifty stades inland a hill of no great size," (Critias. 113b)
basically says that the city of Atlantis was both in the middle of the
island, as well as being near the sea. But, this problem disappears when
we think that Plato was an initiate and was speaking in code about a literal,
global civilization. The ancients often referred to a nation by its "chief
city." In the upcoming excerpt, the C's make the comment that "Atlantis
was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans
occupying different sections of a huge Island empire, which, in itself,
underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure
it. [...] [The Celts] took over the Northern section. "
sections" of a "huge island empire," put together with
the idea that this "empire" was global, leaves the possibility
open for all of the America's to be part of this empire, and for North
America to be the "northern section" that was almost utterly
destroyed in a cataclysm. When we consider such things as the badlands,
the grand canyon, the Carolina bays, the nuclear evidence of the Great
Lakes region, we come to the idea that something truly dreadful happened
to North America and that it may have been a combination of war and cometary
bombardment. There is also evidence that there was a massive shift of
the earth crust raising the western coast of South America, and a similar
raising of the Western part of North America could have been involved
in that scenario. In short, much of what is Western America could have
formerly been under the Pacific. And the raising of this Western portion
most definitely could have sunk the Eastern seaboard of North America
as the evidence of the Bimini wall, and other remains suggest.
such a scenario would fit Plato's description of the destruction of Atlantis
in a "single day and night."
What is more
interesting, however, is the hyperdimensional manipulations that occur
during such cataclysmic upheavals. We can even think of this as the moving
of the "playing pieces" in the Secret Games of the Gods.
Q: (L) When the Aryans were brought here, were they brought to Atlantis?
A: No. The Aryans were different from the Atlanteans.
Q: (L) Who constructed the great serpent mound in Adams County, Ohio?
A: Armonan sect.
Q: (T) Who are the Armonans?
A: Atlantean descendants.
Q: (T) So, this was a long time ago? (L) Is there anything about them
we would be advised to know or learn?
A: "Puzzle pieces."
Q: (L) What period of time did they live in this area, from when to
A: See answers to Sumerian question.
Q: (L) Well, my opinion to this whole thing is that the Sumerians and
the Armonans were Atlanteans who set up shop in their respective places
when Atlantis went under.
A: Good, now go with that.
Q: (L) I would say that the same answer holds for the White Horse at
Uffington, in England?
Q: In the information I now have on the Canaries, I found that a strange
icon appeared on the island long before the conquest, long before any
missionaries or Europeans arrived. The natives were the big, blond types.
They said that they knew this icon was divine because following its
appearance, there were processions of angels, or divine beings, up and
down the beach where it appeared, lights, smells, chanting and singing
and so forth. How did the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria arrive
on the beach at Tenerife?
Q: Who teleported it there?
A: The "Celts."
Q: Celts in the sense of the Druids?
A: Or in the sense of Atlanteans.
Q: Now, you said before that Atlanteans were not Celts, is that correct?
Q: The Atlanteans were Celts?
A: "Celts, Druids," etc... are merely latter day designations.
Q: Let's back up here. You said that the Celts came from Kantek. They
were transported by the Lizzies... brought here, correct? [Kantek: the
fifth planet of the solar system that was destroyed and is now the asteroid
Q: When the Lizzies did this, how many Celts were physically brought
A: Hundreds of millions.
Q: How long, in our terms, did it take to bring these Celts to this
planet? Or, is this ongoing?
A: Well, in the sense that you measure it, let us say about a week.
Q: Did they transport them in ships, that is some sort of structure.
That is, did they load them up, move them into 4th density, reemerge
here in 3rd density, or something like that?
Q: And they unloaded them in the area of the Caucasus, is that correct?
A: And regions surrounding.
Q: And, that was what, 79 to 80 thousand years ago?
A: Over 80,000.
Q: As I understand it, Atlantis was already quite a developed civilization
at that time, is that correct?
A: Yes, but regions change with waves of immigration, or conquest...
witness your own lands.
Q: You also said once that there was a nuclear war in India and that
this was what was being discussed in the Vedas when it talks about the
'blue-skinned' people who weren't really blue because they were Celts,
and they were flying in aircraft, and they were engaged in this war,
etc. Who were the Celts at war with?
A: The Paranthas.
Q: Now, wait a minute! Who are the Paranthas?! Do we have a new player
A: Not new.
Q: Do we know them by another name?
Q: The Atlanteans? Were the Celts of India at war with the Atlanteans
in the Atlantic?
A: Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3
races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island empire,
which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period
as you would measure it.
Q: The 3 races were the Celts... and who were the second and third?
A: Or Kantekkians.
Q: Are the Kantekkians different from the Celts?
A: Only in the sense of long term racial and genetic blending.
Q: So, Atlantis had the Kantekkians and who else?
A: Race you would call "Native Americans," and a third, no longer existing
race, somewhat resembling Australian or Guinean aborigines, only lighter
Q: Was this third group destroyed by the other two?
A: One of the 3 cataclysms.
Q: So, the Paranthas were the antecedents of the Abos of Australia?
A: Yes, and compare to now existing peoples of India, Pakistan, Sri
Lanka, Australia, and New Guinea for similarities, bearing in mind genetic
mixing and dilution.
Q: Were the Vedas written by the Paranthas or written by the Celts?
A: Descendants of Parantha, as per "Divine guidance."
Q: [...] We have taken care of a couple of points; we have 3 races on
Atlantis, Celts all over the place... did the Celts conquer the Atlanteans?
Q: Did they just move in and hang out?
A: They took over the Northern section.
Q: At the same time, there were Celts in the Caucasus, along the Baltic,
in Ireland, England and Europe...
A: Ireland, England, etc. was later.
Q: But there were in the Norse lands, as Sweden, Norway and Denmark,
they were along the Baltic, and they were in the Caucasus?
A: Some above mentioned areas were ice covered.
beings, their cultures and trying to figure out who is really on first,
is difficult at best. This is especially true when trying to correlate
the legends and myths to the archeological facts. When different cultures
mix so do their genes. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited only from your mother.
The "Eve Hypothesis" that has been widely promulgated is somewhat
misleading because very few popular discussions of this idea reveal that
the results of the DNA investigations showed two "origins" for
humanity, Asia and Africa. In other words, a more or less North/South
division. One method of assessing relationships between cultures is their
blood group, but it may not be very accurate because blood type is not
determined by Mitochondrial DNA, but by nuclear DNA. The conquering of
a tribe by another, the killing of all the males and the subsequent mating
with all the females, can very quickly produce a dominant "type"
that may not accurately reflect the actual cultural tracks.
The AB group
is almost non-existent in apes, and O is minimal! Chimpanzees are mainly
group A (never B), and Gorillas are mainly group B (never A). Similarly,
the early Europeans had a high % of group A, whilst the Asiatic races
had a high % of B. So the idea has been proposed that chimpanzees developed
into Cro-Magnon man then Europeans, whilst Gorillas developed into the
larger brained Neaderthals then into the Asians. To account for group
O there must have been a third group of proto-humans who were O. Type
O occurs only as a recessive gene. Both parents must have at least one
copy of the gene to produce a child who is type O.
groupings are generally split evenly. However, there are some pure groupings.
For group O the Bororo, Mayans and Incas are all virtually 100% group
O. Further north, the Navajos are 73% group O. Still further north, the
Blackfoot indians are 82% group A. Group AB, which is rare, includes the
Peking Chinese, Korean, Japanese at about 10-18%. Poles, Czechs and Hungarian
Gypsies are run at about 9-10% of the AB group. Interestingly, Tartars
and Hindus show also strong AB.
It has been
noted that some disease causing organisms have the same proteins on their
surface as some of the blood types leading to the idea that some blood
groups are more susceptible than others to certain diseases. This leads
to the idea that populations can be deliberatly manipulated by introducing
epidemics that "favor" certain blood groups. This may be the
reason for the unusual "purity" of blood groups in certain populations.
Those who carried the "wrong" type were eliminated by viral
or bacterial population control methods. The C's have, in fact, mentioned
just such a possibility:
A: You should know that these bloodlines become parasitically infected,
harrassed and tinkered with whenever a quantum leap of awareness is
imminent. Such as "now."
been made that the O blood group is the blood of royalty (blue blood),
that stems from an Atlantean heritage. The races that possess this blood
races (called the Red races) are races of the Americas; of the Canary
Islands; Basques, Scandinavians, Celts, as well as certain Polynesian
and Indonesian peoples. However, this could be altogether misleading due
to the "conquering" factor, as well as the "parasitic"
factor of population manipulation. One thing that seems clear is that
there is serious "manipulation" of populations going on, and
it is quite easy to imagine that the type O prevalence is a result of
the introduction of the Kantekkians, a group described as being closer
to the Orion genetic heritage, the tall, blond, nordic types, which can
be either strongly polarized positively or negatively. In other words,
the type O blood group may not be the "Lizard genetics" that
has been proposed by some of the wilder theories making the rounds, though
it may indeed be the blood group of individuals possessing very strong
genetic potential for good OR evil as the following excerpts indicate:
Q: (L) Who are the Nordic type aliens?
A: Your ancestors.
Q: (L) What planet did they come from?
A: Several and transitory.
A: We are providing invaluable information which becomes knowledge,
but you are under attack, therefore, you could maybe use some direct
power from the same density as the attack is coming from.
Q: (F) But, until you have total knowledge... (L) You don't have the
kind of power we are talking about needing. (F) Right. We would would
need 500,000 pages of transcript to have that kind of knowledge, to
get to that point. (L) Okay, what is the phone number of the Orion Federation?
(S) Laura! (T) That's what I was going to ask. [Laughter.] (L) How do
we get ahold of them?
A: Off the hook!
Q: (T) Uh oh! (L) They're busy? (T) Getting a lot of calls. (L) Okay,
guys, what do we need to do here?
A: Find a "Nordic." They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) They are 4th density. I thought they...
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn't hold the frequency that long
and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble. (J) They're STS.
A: Not STO!
Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?
A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.
Q: (L) Okay, if it started with the Nordic types, and that is where
the other humanoid combinations came from, what genetic combinations
were used for human beings? Black people, for instance, since they are
so unlike "Nordics?"
A: The Nordic genes were mixed with the gene pool already available
on Earth, known as Neanderthal.
Q: (L) What was the genetic combination used to obtain the Oriental
A: Orientals come from a region known in your legends as "Lemuria,"
and are a previous hybridization from 7 genetic code structures from
within Orion Union, designed to best fit the earth climate and cosmic
ray environment then existent on earth.
Q: (L) Okay, what about the Semitic and Mediterranean peoples?
A: Each time a new flock was "planted," it was engineered to be best
suited to the environment where it was planted. Aryans are the only
exception, as they had to be moved to earth in an emergency.
Q: (L) If races are engineered on earth to be "best suited," what factors
are being drawn from or considered regarding the Semitic race?
A: They are not engineered on earth, but in Orion lab as all others.
They were "Planted" in the Middle East.
Q: (L) What genetic type were the Atlanteans?
A: They were the same as the "Native Americans."
Q: (L) This book describes the Nordic aliens as having blood with a
different chemical base than ours...
A: This is trivial disinformation, "Nordic" Physiology is identical
to yours, with the exception being their cranium, which averages 3 per
A: The Nordic Covenant was a duality. [...] All persons of Nordic heritage
hold secret power centers, can be of darkness, or of light...
Q: (L) Okay, now: I would like to know if there was a real historic
person behind the legend of King Arthur?
A: Close. Sorcerer's Coven. Secret pact of coven is covenant.
Q: (L) Was this the Nordic Covenant behind the legend of King Arthur?
A: Not really.
Q: (L) I think that implies that there might be a connection?
A: Maybe there is something more like an offshoot.
Q: (L) The Nordic Covenant is an offshoot of the Arthurian Covenant
or vice versa?
A: King Arthur story based on an offshoot of Nordic Covenant Root.
Q: (L) Okay, now you say that the Nordic Covenant can be positive or
negative. Would the Arthurian Cycle be of the Positive Offshoot?
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant in any sense similar to any of the things
I have read here?
A: It is a mystical thing, not related to theology in a direct sense.
Q: How long has the Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: 5129 years.
from this session momentarily, we note that 3131 BC is very close to 3100
B.C, a time of some sort of global disruption recorded in ice cores and
tree rings. The fact is, there was some sort of discontinuity of many
ancient cultures which occurred at this period: 3100 B.C. It is also the
time estimated for the unification of Egypt and the beginning of the reign
of Narmer/Menes. This leads us to another interesting series of questions:
Q: (L) Who were the Elohim of the Bible?
A: Transdefinitive. And variable entities. [...] First manifestation
was human, then non-human. [...]
Q: (L) Well, what brought about their transformation from huma to non-human?
A: Pact or covenant.
Q: (L) They made a pact or covenant with each other?
A: No, with 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Well, that is not good! Are you saying that the Elohim are STS?
Who were these STS beings they made a pact with?
A: Rosteem, now manifests as Rosicrucians.
Q: (L) What is their purpose?
A: As yet unrevealable to you.
part of this "Nordic Covenant?" How does the name "Rostau,"
the ancient designation for Giza, relate to the Rose-Cross, or the Rosicrucians?
Q: In reading the transcripts, I came across a reference to a 'pact'
made by a group of STS individuals, and it was called 'Rosteem,' and
that this was the origin of the Rosicrucians. In the book 'The Orion
Mystery,' it talks about the fact that Giza was formerlay known as RosTau,
which is 'Rose Cross.' Essentially, I would like to understand the symbology
of the Rose affixed to the Cross. It seems to me that the imagery of
Jesus nailed to the Cross is actually the Rose affixed to the Cross.
How does Jesus relate to the Rose?
A: No, it is from the Rose arose the Cross. [...]
Q: What does the cross symbolize?
A: The symbology is not the issue. It is the effect.
Q: What is the effect of the cross?
A: All that has followed it.
leads us to that most interesting character, promoted assiduously since
the end of the dark ages, as the "father of alchemy," Hermes
the Thrice Great:
Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?
A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.
Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?
A: Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.
Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?
A: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area now known
as Middle East.
Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?
A: Himself; was power hungry.
Q: (L) What acts did he do?
A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks of Egyptians,
Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.
Q: (L) What was his purpose in doing this?
A: Divide and conquer as inspired by those referred to as Brotherhood
in Bramley book you have read.
Q: (L) Is this the Brotherhood of the snake Hermes formed in rejection
A: Hermes did not form it; it was long since in existence.
Q: (L) Who was the originator of the Brotherhood of the Serpent as described
in the Bramley book?
A: Lizard Beings.
Q: (L) I would like to know the approximate year of the life of Hermes
A: 5211 [years ago] approx.
brings us right back into the ballpark with the time of Narmer's "Unification"
of Egypt and the formation of the "Elohim Covenant." The question
is, how does this relate to the Nordic Covenant? Back to the 12-26-98
session we interrupted:
Q: Is the
Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or between humans
and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.
Q: Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar format
as it did at its inception?
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the Quorum?
Q: Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in opposition,
or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.
Q: Is there any particular thing about this that I ought to ask at the
moment that I am not going to discover in the course of my research?
The mail group asked a few questions about this, so I thought I ought
to approach the subject. Is the Nordic Covenant made between people
who are blond and blue-eyed?
A: Not the central issue.
Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for
the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.
Q: What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!
Q: Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the same
ones involved with the genetic engineering of new bodies for the Lizzies
to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness
of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.
Q: You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it could
be positive or negative.
Q: Well, let me get to some of these other questions. Previously you
said that the central thing about the Nordic Covenant was that there
were bloodlines that extend off the planet. From what I understand,
all humans on the planet have bloodlines that extend off the planet.
In what sense did you mean this about the Nordic Covenant; that the
bloodlines extend off the planet?
A: Not all so recent, not all so "pure."
Q: In the sense of recent, how recent do you mean?
A: Speculate, using your transcripts.
Q: What was the connection between the Hyperboreans, including the Celts
of Britain, I believe, and the people of Delos?
A: Northern peoples were responsible for civilising the Meditteranean/Adriatic
peoples with the encoded secrets contained within their superior extra-terrestrially
based genetic arrangement. Practice of which you speak was multi-trans-generational
Q: Is it the case that some of them communicated with higher density
beings via Stonehenge, and that these communications they received...
A: Stonehenge used to resonate with tonal rill, teaching the other wise
unteachable with wisdoms entered psychically through crown chakra transceiving
Q: Now, I have this book entitled "Arktos." He says something
here that echoes a remark you once made. He says:
a very remarkable thing that enlightenment seems to have come from
the North against the common prejudice that the Earth was enlightened
as it was populated from South to North. The Scythians are one of
the most ancient nations; the Chinese descend from them. The Atlanteans
themselves, more ancient than the Egyptians, descend from them."
that the civilizing influence came from the North to the South. Of course,
all the standard texts claim that civilization came from South to North,
starting in Mesopotamia. Now, getting...
A: Okay, just a minute here. Thinking Mesopotamia is the beginning is
like thinking that the beginning starts at the 12th chapter.
Q: I know that! The problem is: finding artifacts. I've been searching
and digging, and I find a little bit here and there, but my God! Either
A: Artifacts have a limited shelf life!
Q: Exactly! The problem is that they've got specimens of humanoid types
from 100 to 200 thousand years ago, and even further, but no specimens
of modern man that are that old. Why is this so? Are they just looking
in the wrong places?
A: Specimens survive by sheer luck.
Q: So, they are lucky that they have any specimens at all. Who knows,
when they find a very ancient specimen of a modern type human, they
won't believe it - it will be called an "anomaly!" There ARE artifacts
that are EXTREMELY ancient, which give evidence of the presence of modern
type man, and they just simply argue themselves to death over them.
Q: They ignore them. But, during the time Neanderthal man was on the
Earth, did he live alongside Modern man?
A: Yes. Except modern type man was different then.
Q: In what ways?
A: DNA and psycho/electrical frequencies.
Q: Does this mean that their physical appearance was different from
what we consider to be modern man?
Q: What do you mean "radiance?"
A: You find out!
Q: Oh, that's interesting. Well, there are legends that the Northern
people had "light" in their veins. Very ancient belief. Is this what
you are referring to?
Q: Was this light related to the hemoglobin level, the iron level in
Q: Did they have a much higher iron level in their blood?
Q: Okay, part of the ancient legend of Arktos was that, in very ancient
times the Earth was different because it had a vertical axial orientation.
This contributed to the golden age or the Edenic condition. Is this,
in fact, one of the conditions that existed in the Golden Age?
A; Well, yes, but still some puzzle pieces needed.
Q: I noticed also that there are several ball-park type figures given
for the precessional cycles. Apparently there is not a whole lot of
agreement as to how long this cycle is, exactly. I notice that, if you
divide 309,882 years by 12, you come out right in the ball park of 12
precessional cycles. Is this the reason that the zodiac was set up with
twelve signs or houses?
A: Related, yes.
Q: Now, since all the recent conjecture about the precessional cycle
has really gone all over the place, it is my thought that the real reason
for the ancient clues about this cycle are to inform us that the length
of 12 of these cycles is a GRAND Cycle, and that THIS is the big clue.
A: Needs some study by you.
Q: One of the interesting things about this Northern civilizational
factor is that one of the hallmarks of the Aryan attitude is the Male
dominated religion. When did the masculine religion "take over?" Was
this always the tendency or leaning of the Aryan group?
A: Involves more than religion. Religion is the facilitator.
Q: Facilitator of what?
A: Customary psycho/social habitue.
Q: Customary to whom?
A: Those whom you refer to as Aryans.
Q: Where did they acquire the "habit" of a masculine oriented religion?
Everybody else was worshipping the goddess in one form or another. But
this male dominated theology was the distinguishing characteristic of
the Northern peoples. Where did they come up with this.
A: Originated on home planet.
A: For all intents and purposes.
Q: Was it this male dominated religion that contributed to the destruction
Q: Okay, when they were on their home planet, why did they develop a
masculine religion as opposed to a feminine one, considering the fact
that women are the source of life, in certain terms?
A: In your density, masculinism/feminish is essentially a roll of "the
dice." Remember, at higher levels gender is nonexistent.
Q: Well, the problem I am having here is this: the masculine religion
is monotheistic, essentially.
A: In your references.
Q: Was the older masculine religion polytheistic?
A: Going off the track. [Which suggests that being "on track"
would be to go in the direction that a "masculine" religion
could worship a goddess.]
Q: The Aryans always thought they were better than everybody else...
A: They were more advanced than the company they found themselves amongst.
Q: But then, as far as I can tell, the Hebrew monotheism is also derived
from the Aryan, monotheistic, male dominated religion. It then "fathered"
Christianity, and that has been the whole patriarchal, kill-em-all and
let God sort-em-out war mongering thing under which we have lived for
over 2000 years. This is the Western, European mind... it came from
the Aryans, from the North; it was the so-called "civilizing" influence
in nearly every respect that you can track. The cohesiveness and dominance
of this type of thinking was able to civilize, but then civilization
involves dominance, killing, war, territory, the Hitler scene, the whole
nine yards. All of this is antithetical to all that you promote as far
as being desirable. Yet, you have said that you were in contact with
the Northern Peoples for millennia. Yes, Cassiopeia is a Northern Constellation,
and probably figured in the early myths of these peoples in ways we
cannot know, but the whole thing is that they represent all that is
A: But so do you, so then why did we contact you?
Q: Well. I don't buy into that whole monotheistic, dominator, war-mongering,
make everybody conform to one way of thinking head trip!
A: So, you think all individuals conformed then, or is it the soul that
counts in the final analysis?
Q: Okay, obviously all individuals are different, and some did not conform
A: And neither do you.
Q: Point taken. I am just having a hard time with this. I wish you would
just tell me! Who interacted with these Aryans to give them this male-dominated,
monotheistic idea that they then sought to impose on every other human
being on the planet - and are STILL trying!
A: Interactions were transdensity.
back to Atlantis: we note that the C's have said that "Atlantis was
merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans occupying
different sections of a huge Island empire." And here we come to
the problem of Antarctica. It is obvious from that most amazing of artifacts,
the Piri Reis map, that there was something unusual about Antarctica.
Rand and Rose Flem-Ath have proposed that Antarctica was formerly in the
Atlantic and was "shifted" further south to relocate itself
at the South Pole. A lot of people like this idea because it explains
the "missing island of Atlantis," and simultaneously explains
the existence of the Piri Reis portolan. The C's, however, have a slightly
different "take" on that in addition to their remarks that "Atlantis"
was a global civilization, and that we ought not to be looking for an
"island." What is more, this explanation relates to technology
that was utilized in a way we cannot even imagine. There was a very definite
reason that Antarctica may, indeed, have been the Atlantean home base
as suggested by the Flem-Aths, but not quite the way they think.
Q: [...] (A) Okay, this brings us to the question about the Piri Reis
map. We wanted to know the origin of this map?
A: Complex, but the origin would date back to 14,000 B.C.
Q: (A) Atlantis?
Q: (L) Was this map drawn when Antarctica was NOT covered by ice?
Q: (L) Was Antarctica not covered by ice because the poles were in a
Q: (L) Was it not covered by ice because the entire planet was not covered
Q: (L) Was it not covered by ice because it was in a different location
Q: (L) Why was it not covered by ice? (A) Because the climate was warmer.
A: Technologically achieved.
Q: (L) Why would somebody want to technologically warm Antarctica if
the whole rest of the planet was available for use? What is so special
A: The whole rest of the planet was available for use? Not hardly.
Q: (L) Why was the rest of the planet not available for use?
Q: (L) So, the rest of the planet WAS covered by ice?
Q: (L) There is something I am missing here. (A) Much of the planet
was covered by ice, but not all.
Q: (L) So, instead of using the areas that were NOT covered by ice,
why, in particular, was Antarctica...
Q: (L) What I am getting at is: why go to all the trouble to thaw out
a whole big island if it might have been easier to have been somewhere
A: Well, first of all, we thought this was Ark's turn. But, since you
have asked, is it not obvious by now? Magnetic power grid physics .
EM utilization. Crystals, and the like. Seeking paths to the interior?
The "Poles" know best! [...] EM generators usually employ a grid. 'Tis
for field creation.
Q: (A) When you say this, you mean A grid, not THE grid?
A: Yes. Looks like a waffle iron.
Q: (A) You mean like a waffle iron that is used in transformers?
A: Okay. Why? To duplicate nature. Earth has a web, and so doeth thee!
Q: (A) Now, Earth's grid is just an imaginary grid related to field,
or just a mathematic grid... no, it must really exist....
Q: (A) If it really exists, is it a field of grid, or is it a grid made
out of some matter, like these waffle irons? Just field, or matter?
A: The iron is attracted, not attractive.
Q: (A) I wanted to know if the grid is a material grid, or if it is
just a grid of field and nothing more, or if there is something material
in the earth relating to it?
we realize that the use of EM waves, the significator of the Pyramid concept,
was related to the "underground bases" and that the Atlantean
technology was somehow dependent upon polar convergence points of the
magnetic grid of the Earth. And this, of course, brings us to that most
interesting problem of the "cart ruts" on the island of Malta
which is also famous in UFO lore for being an opening to the "underground
Q: (L) [...] I want to know what is the cause of the so-called "cart
tracks" on the island of Malta?
Q: (L) Well, I KNOW that! But they are grooved in such a way that they
cannot possibly be cart ruts, as they are called. I just recently purchased
a book about the archeology of Malta which talks on and on about the
temples and so forth, and then, on the very last page, devotes a single
paragraph to the "cart ruts." This book says:
enigmatic cart ruts are too obvious in the Maltese rocky landscape
to be ignored in any work, however concise, on Maltese archeology
even though they are still not easy to locate in the chronological
sequence. according to the traditional view, they should be placed
in prehistory, more precisely in the Bronze Age, the main argument
being that some specimens are cut by "Punic" tombs and, therefore,
should be prior to that period.
validity of this argument is, in my view, highly questionable particularly
since for Temi Zammit, its originator, 'Punic' could mean anything
from the 7th century BC to the 3rd century AD, especially as far as
tombs are concerned. In my search and study of ancient quarries over
the last fifteen years, I found cart ruts very frequently, almost
invariably, associated with them. The best example is, perhaps, the
Buskett group which lies next to the largest and most important of
Malta's ancient quarries. For this reason I cannot refrain from believing
that they were intended for the transportation of construction blocks
from the quarry face to the road in ancient (i.e., not prehistoric)
times. This view is supported by a good number of parallels abroad
(for instance in Sicily, southern France and Greece) as well as by
their concentration in several areas around Melite which must have
required a constant supply of ashlar masonry for its buildings. "
is a single picture of the ruts in this book. In the 1975 Lexikon der
Archaeologie, the entry under Malta reads:
emigrants from Sicily came to the island around 3200 BC. An astonishing
number of megalithic temples were constructed between 2800-1900 BC.
The still extant temples, some thirty in number, exhibit a highly
developed plan and superstructure ...This population possibly followed
warlike immigrants from western Greece... The strange 'cart-ruts'
belong to the same period."
problem with this cart rut theory is the following: When you look at
these furrows impressed in the ground, most of them parallel as they
should be, the natural thing is to think of them as ruts. But, apparently,
close examination shows that they CANNOT have been ruts in the ordinary
sense of the word. The reason is that the tracks of the two parallel
furrows are not only DIFFERENT FROM RUT TO RUT! but also vary in the
course of a single stretch! They run through valleys, over hills, and
sometimes exist in several "pairs" side by side which then unite into
single two track stretches, followed by sudden curves. They also run
off straight into the Mediterranean. Others end abruptly at cliff edges.
They are from 65 to 123 cm wide. The furrows themselves are frequently
over 70 cm DEEP! At one place, on rut runs in a curve over a hill and
cuts 72 cm into the limestone ground. If a cart ever ran in these ruts,
it could not have taken a curve because of the great depth of the ruts!
Either the axle would have vanished in the deep imprint or the axle
must have been at least 72 cm high which would have given the wheel
a diameter of 1.5 cm. But that presents the problem that such a large
wheel could NOT have taken such a tight curve! It would get stuck or
break. Such wheels that would be necessary to navigate the depth of
the ruts could not have maneuvered in the narrowness of them which is
approximately 6 cm. Since every single-axle cart has two wheels which
must run absolutely parallel in the furrows, we are faced with an impossibility.
Even a double axled cart would not work because when taking a curve,
the rear wheels have to trace a narrower track than the front wheels
which is why large trucks have to make a wide swing to take a tight
point on the island, four pairs of ruts join together into one rut.
They all have different "gauges" a prior to this union. Nearby, there
is a rut that crosses another, but they are of different depths. Another
rut is up to 60 cm deep, and has a width of 11 cm at the deepest point,
and 20 cm at the highest. As noted, in many places, the ruts run straight
into the waters of the Mediterranean. It was assumed until recently
that the ruts would end underwater a few meters from the coast, which
would suggest that they had originated when the sea level of the Mediterranean
was lower. However, divers have discovered that the ruts continue in
the stone to great depths below sea level.
a German real estate investor who was also a part-time archeologist,
claimed to have identified a megaliths temple similar to Mnajdra on
the sea-bed in Malta's territorial waters. Supposedly, the discovery
was made by two Maltese divers who noted the structure during a dive
on the 13th of July in 1999. They took photographs. This was some 3
KM off the eastern coast of Malta. If this discovery were "authenticated,"
it would overturn existing history as we know it!
for a temple to lie on the bed of the Mediterranean sea, it would have
to date to the last ice age. The implication would then be that
the Maltese temples are at least 6,000 years older than previously thought.
this announcement, which really set the archeologists on their ears,
there was a report printed in the "Malta Independent" on Sunday, November
7th, 1999 which said:
initial caution and scepticism with which the news was received by
local archaeologists would now appear to be vindicated. After an on-site
dive carried out by the Museums Department last Friday, a spokesman
for the Department expressed serious doubts that the underwater structures
in question have any archaeological importance at all, let alone constitute
a complete prehistoric temple, as suggested by amateur German archaeologist
Dr. Huber Zeitlmair, who took credit for the discovery. An official
press statement to this effect is expected to be released shortly.
:The structures which elicited such widespread interest and even excitement
were first filmed by local divers Shaun and Kurt Arrigo on an underwater
plateau some three kilometres east of Malta. At its deepest point
the plateau is over 25 metres below sea level; at its shallowest,
about seven metres. Strewn about the area are several large rectangular
stones which give the impression of fallen menhirs. Beyond, there
are a number of what appear to be kidney-shaped chambers, bearing
some resemblance to the apses of above ground temples such as Mnajdra
and Hagar Qim.
Dr. Zeitlmair, video footage was evidence enough to publicly assert
that the structures represent a complete megalithic complex, constructed
at a time when the plateau would have been above sea level. the fact
that it is now underwater could be due to the melting o the polar
ice caps during the last ice age, which would mean that the structures
were inundated between 8,000 and 10,000 BC.
implications are, to say the least, dramatic. Sadly, though, his interpretation
has not stood up to preliminary investigations, and it now appears
that what we are dealing with is most likely a natural phenomenon.
Meanwhile, contacted independently of the Museums Department, Professor
Anthony Bonanno of the Department of Classics and Archaeology at the
University of Malta, described the possibility of an underwater temple
as "extremely improbable."
fact that Dr. Zeitlmair is part of a society of 'Palaeoastronauts'
automatically puts me on my guard" , he says. As for the theory of
an antediluvian temple culture, Prof. Bonanno dismisses it out of
hand. "'Our existing temples have been very reliably carbon-dated
to the period 3,600 to 2,500 BC. In that space of time we have traced
a regular evolution in style, from the small and rudimentary to the
large and complex."
professor then goes on to suggest that, if the ruins ARE validated,
the only way they could possibly have gotten where they are is if they
were contemporary to the ruins on the island, and were on an adjacent
part of the island that "sank because of a fault in the rock." So, what
it amounts to is another discovery is being co-opted by the authorities
who immediately pooh pooh it, cover it up, explain it away with their
circular cerebral gymnastics. The bottom line is: I want to know what
was the cause of these crazy cart ruts that cannot have been cart ruts!
They cannot possibly be cart ruts!
A: Energy grooves.
Q: (L) What kind of energy?
A: Something like short circuit at time of disturbance in magnetic
field of planet.
Q: (L) Was there something inlaid there that conducted this energy?
I mean, did this rock melt like this because it had lines of conductors
laid into the ground?
A: Crystal generators were once used to collect and redistribute cosmic
and terran energy fields.
Q: (L) How long ago were these ruts or grooves formed?
A: 14019 years ago as you measure it.
Q: (L) Was this before the temple structures were built on Malta?
A: Yes. Survivors built those.
Q: (L) These ruts are certainly in the way. They are a definite hazard
to walking. Maybe they filled them in with dirt that later washed away.
A: Magnetic disturbance, human cause.
Q: (L) What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the magnetic disturbance
was caused by humans, or that the magnetic disturbance contributed to
the cause of the ruts, and that the ruts were caused by humans, in such
case, how did they cause the ruts in relation to the magnetic disturbance?
A: No. Calamities caused magnetic disturbances. Picture a short circuit
in the global crystal power grid.
Q: (L) So, in other words, a global crystal power grid short circuited
due to magnetic disturbances, and these human constructed grid lines
all over the planet - I'm sure they must have existed in other places
if that is the case - did it just melt the rock?
A: Maltese condition is somewhat unique from a preservational standpoint.
Q: (L) Again, did the rock just melt along these laid out grid lines?
A: More like atomic changes structurally.
Q: (A) I don't understand if they were built or were they natural lines
of conduction? Was this power grid artificial or natural?
A: An artificial utilization of natural energy fields.
What we discover
when reading the vast amount of "Atlantean Theories" is that
there is almost nowhere that has not been claimed to be the site of Atlantis.
But, if we understand Atlantis as a global empire, very similar to what
we have today, then we are easily able to accomodate all the many theories
into the whole picture. We can then understand the role of of Wisconsin,
Antarctica, the North Atlantic, South America, Indonesia, and the numerous
other places being claimed to be the site of Atlantis. We also begin to
understand the true capabilities of our ancestors, and why it simply is
not necessary to explain the so-called "monuments" on Mars as
the work of "extraterrestrials."
to the problem of Tiahuanaco. Mainstream scholars argue that building
started around 150 BC and the city continued to grow until the latter
part of the first millennium AD. Others - still in the mainstream - insist
that it was probably completed by the second millennium BC. Arthur Posnansky,
an archaeologist whose findings were endorsed by the Bolivian government,
and Rolf Muller, a German astronomer suggested the Kalasasaya enclosure
functioned as an astronomical observatory, a thesis that is now widely
accepted by his peers. But Posnansky went further. Based on the alignments
of the site, the complex must have been built around 15,000 BC. Dr Muller
checked his calculations and cautioned that while 15,000 BC was certainly
a possibility, the astronomical findings could also point to 9300 BC.
the mainstream archaeologists simply cannot deal with this, even though
it would solve the puzzle of why Tiahuanaco was built as a port. There
is clear evidence that the Altiplano on which the city is built only rose
above sea level with the ending of the Ice Age, around 8000 BC.
If Tiahuanaco existed before then, it would have functioned as a port
and would have been more or less contemporary with Plato's lost Atlantis.
This is interesting in light of what the C's had to say about it:
Q: (L) Who and what were the Mayans?
A: The Mayans were a trasitory people who still exist in the lands that
you refer to as Central America. And who have certain physical features
that are not consistent with the rest of human beings on 3rd density
Earth environment, due to their interactions, in the past, as you measure
time, with beings of other density levels.
Q: (L) What beings would those be?
A: Well, we have described 4th density STS beings on many occasions.
Q: (L) The Lizard Beings?
Q: (L) Who was Arajuna of Tiahuanaco?
A: Well, we believe that you are referring to one of approximately eight
hybrids that ruled the area currently referred to as Central America.
Hybrids being a 4th density to 3rd density transfer experiment from
the Lizard race to the human race, which was abandoned after approximately
240 years of experimentation by the Lizard Beings, due to the lack of
success for sustaining physical duplication, or reproduction of the
race. It was one of several attempts by the Lizard Beings to directly
transmit their souls into 3rd density environment for permanent placement
there. And, of course it is no longer perceived as necessary by them
because their intention is to rule 3rd density beings in 4th density
when they arrive there.
Q: (L) Who built the city of Tiahuanaco?
A: The Lizard Beings in cooperation with humans.
Q: (L) When was it built?
A: Varying time frames since it seems to have been destroyed at two
points. We have to estimate an average of 8,000 years prior to the current
time, as you measure it.
works America is referred to as Patala, meaning the antipodes, and Arjuna,
Krishna's disciple, is said to have descended to Patala and married
a daughter of one of the Nagas, or Serpents of Wisdom.
And of course,
the "serpents of wisdom" are seen as the "civilizing good
guys." What is most interesting is that, by following the pathway
of the religious symbolism and the art, we can see a connection between
the South American civilizations to India and the Indus Valley Civilization,
and thence to Egypt, finally coming to rest in Judaism and modern Christianity
based on the Egyptian religion. All of them contain elements of "flaying
the sacrifice," worship of the sun, fire and mountain gods, slashing
the penis as an offering to the gods (finally becoming circumcision),
and worship of the serpent, either overt or hidden. (Recall Moses' bronze
serpent in the desert.)
We can even
follow the distorted skulls of the alien hybrid suggested above from the
Ica Skulls of Peru, to the artistic renditions
on Easter Island, to the piled up hair of Shiva, to the elongated skull
representations of the Egyptian pharaohs - not to mention the actual physical
distortion of the skull of Nefertiti and her children. That King Tut's
skull was similarly deformed suggests that he was definitely the child
of Nefertiti. Earlier representations of Akhenaten show him with a completely
normal skull configuration, so it is clear that the "hybrid genetics"
came from Nefertiti. And perhaps that was her "entree" to the
royal family - the "mark of the beast," so to say. At one point,
a "deformed skull" was found that was proclaimed to have been
Akhenaten, but it later turned out to be the mummy of a woman. The facts
seem to show that the bones of Akhenaten and Nefertiti have never been
synopsis of the situation, following the tracks and traces of myth and
legends, blood types and art work, archeological and paleontological remains
and artifacts, lead to the conclusion that the "Southern contingent,"
the "pyramid people," were the Masters of Atlantis, aided and
abetted by hyperdimensional negative beings in an attempt to take over
the world, and were defeated by the Athenians, or the Northern contingent,
the circle people, the builders of Stonehenge and worshippers of the Moon
and the Mother goddess. But this defeat of the Atlanteans - keeping in
mind that the "Athenians," as part of the global culture, can
also be called "Atlanteans," just as both France and the U.S.
can be called members of NATO - was shortlived because it was closely
followed by disaster piled on disaster in the form of swarms of comets,
asteroids, meteorites, and an EM disturbance of the solar system that
was so dramatic that the very planets were jostled and seen to exchange
What we conjecture
from all of this is that, at certain points in time when the population
of the planet reaches a certain density, it is possible that, during a
global cataclysm, to utilize the energy given off by human beings in the
throes of terror and destruction, to infuse a certain "idea center"
with its "hyperdimensional nutriment." We noticed that the population
figure for Atlantis that the C's gave is very similar to our present day
population, and that suggests that this stimulation of population growth
has been deliberate. In other words, in a strange sort of way, Gurdjieff's
remark that mankind is "food for the Moon" is not much of a
stretch if we understand it in the context of the Moon as the "eighth
sphere" or the portal to hyperdimensional realms.
remember, have no power of creativity; they cannot generate work of their
own. They need the power of the Mother to do that. That is why they
capture women with power, keep them half-alive so as to maintain a minimal
continuity of creative interaction and the suitable production of form.
It is through
tailored regulation of Loves' forms that STS intelligence derives the
means of coercing soul-energy into converting to specific psychic and
emotional coinage - Service to Self. And it is through the cumulative
psychic and emotional energy that the STS forces hope to obtain the
energy-keys to timelocks and spatial corridors of even richer and
still-virgin terrains, portions of the cosmos intact with creative life,
ripe for plunder and privileged profit.
negative being of higher densities takes on the configuration of a forebodingly
lonely presence, lurking in caves and desolate grottos of the astrophysical
realms. It becomes a fiercely mental entity of 5th density
power-knowledge, possessing the proverbial basilisk gaze and only turning
the stream of its attention "away" from that intensified/contractile
self absorption toward the created worlds [..] imbibing the "light
units" to insure the uninterrupted power that it needs, the inconceivable
"wattage" required, to maintain that monumental self-absorption
and narcissistic self-luminance of the negative Ego-postulate - the Anti-Logos,
the Selfness of Consciousness - Ormethion. It must absorb them into itself
- it feels the necessity of undoing creation - it NEEDS that energy to
fuel its infinite self-contemplation.
This is the
Ultimate Objective of the Being at the apex of the pyramidal food chain.
And this is why its agenda is masked in the lower levels of the hierarchy.
Until such lower level negative beings have consumed sufficient energy
- a sort of critical mass - to trigger the implosion of such extraordinary
self concentration, they are only interested in destroying that which
resists their domination and preserving a vital minimum of captured resources
so as to possess an ongoing supply of nutriment. They wish to control,
or freeze the rate of planetary destruction and disintegration so as to
technically conserve the intelligent life-form in a tractable state so
as to render it a good "servant."
forces can demonstrate remarkably far-sighted restraint. If one group
has been effectively captured and could be completely annihilated, instead,
the game will be preserved with the conquerors holding their positions
intact, poised to parlay their gains into even greater negative glory
of "galactic conquest." This is just superior strategy, trying
to include as much as can be included at once so that a comparatively
larger portion of the multidimensional cosmos can be wiped out in the
twinkling of an eye.
periods of time when energy potentials are exchanged between planets,
or between the Sun and the planets, as a result of the disruption created
by swarms of cometary bodies, are the precise times when such "energy
transfers" are most likely. And that brings us to the issue of just
how swarms of comets can create such disruption.
Henri Poincare first blew the whistle on the "closed system"
thinking of Newtonian mechanics. According to classical physics, Newtonian
physics, a closed system is perfectly orderly and predictable. A pendulum
in a vacuum, free of friction and air resistance, will conserve its energy.
The pendulum will swing back and forth for all eternity. It will not be
subject to the dissipation of entropy, which eats its way into systems
by causing them to give up their energy to the surrounding environment.
Planets, like pendulums, cannot be disturbed unless by outside chance,
and they must be unvarying in their perambulations around the sun.
asked a question about the stability of the solar system. Why he asked
this question, we do not know; but he did. And the reaction to his question
was the standard linear/faith brush-off: "Of course they are stable!
They've been stable for a long time. Heck, we can predict eclipses years
in advance!" It was a tenet of the scientific faith that knowing
the law of force and mass of the bodies, any good scientist could predict
the interactions with Newton's equations. The law of force, the inverse
square of the law of gravitation, was all wrapped up in a nice, neat package.
had been doing some math on the side, and he knew that there was a small
difficulty here: for a system containing only two bodies, Newton's equations
work. For an ideal two-body system, the orbits are stable. The problem
arises when going from two to three bodies, such as including the Sun
in the equations, Newton's equations become unsolvable! For formal mathematical
reasons, the three-body equation cannot be worked out closer than an "approximation:"
Well, one would think that an "approximation" might be okay.
We can live with that. It's nothing to keep one awake at night, right?
Well, Poincare knew that the approximation method appeared to work for
the first few terms added, but when the number of terms increased, if
you add more and more bodies to the system, even including a few spare
asteroids and their very minute perturbations of the system, over long
periods of time, at some point the orbits shift and the solar system begins
to break apart under its own internal forces.
this problem is nonlinear and nonintegrable. When you add a term to a
two body system it increases the nonlinear complexity, or feedback of
the system. Poincare did this, and was satisfied that a 3 body system
remained pretty stable. Small perturbations, but so what? With just the
Sun, the Earth and the Moon, we can sleep safely in our beds at night.
happened next was a shock. Poincare discovered that with even the very
smallest perturbation, some orbits behaved in an erratic, even chaotic
way. His calculations showed that a minute gravitational pull from
a third body might cause a planet to wobble and weave drunkenly in its
orbit and even fly out of the solar system altogether! And just imagine
what a swarm of comets might do!
be struck by the complexity of this figure which I do not even attempt
to draw. Nothing more properly gives us an idea of complication of the
problem of three bodies and, in general, of all the problems in dynamics
where there is no uniform integral. [H. Poincare quoted by M. Schroeder
Chaos, Power Laws]
had discovered that chaos is the essence of the nonlinear system. He revealed
that even a completely deterministic system like our solar system could
do crazy things with the least provocation. The smallest effects could
be magnified through positive feedback and a simple system can explode
into shocking complexity.
seems to be what happened then, and what is before us in the not-too-distant
future. And this brings us back to our own civilization as the reincarnation
of Atlantis with the United States as the "central Atlantean power"
that seeks to conquer the world economically and otherwise:
Q: Why is this happening to us? [Referring to the idea of alien abductions
and genetic engineering, earth changes, and general global mayhem.]
Q: (L) What kind of Karma could bring this?
Q: (L) What can protect us?
Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?
A: You are being given it now.
Q: (L) I would like to know if you could comment on what we were discussing
earlier, the purported idea of mans' destruction of the planet. This
is, of course, a disturbing aspect of mankind, but I wonder if mankind
is as guilty as he is made to feel?
A: Mankind, so called, is one element of creation.
Q: (L) When you say 'one element of creation' in relation to the question
about man's destruction of the planet, are you saying that this so-called
destruction can, in a sense, be considered to be creative?
A: The "destruction" is merely one segment of all that exists in a long
Q: (T) Basically, man is doing what he is supposed to be doing, whether
we know it or not. [...] (L) Now, one question that we were discussing
earlier is: how can the close approach of the companion star cause an
increase in the Sun's gravity when there is no reason why it should
change anything since gravity is a function of mass?
A: But do you rally know all there is to know about gravity?
Q: (A) No, we don't know. But, does this mean that this will be an effect
that does not follow from the theory of gravity that we know already?
A: Gravity is the life force that binds all realities as one.
Q: (L) What are the mechanics of the increase in the Sun's gravity?
What is going to cause this?
A: In order to understand this, you would need a reworking of the theorem.
Q: (L) Can you help us in this reworking of the theorem?
Q: (A) What I want to ask is: we have Einstein's theory of gravity,
and the question is whether the effect of increasing the Sun's gravity
is something that goes beyond Einstein's equations or not?
A: You must see the wave.
Q: (A) What wave, a gravitational wave, or an electromagnetic wave,
or some other wave? What wave?
A: Arkadiusz, how do these intersect?
Q: (A) Gravity and electromagnetic?
A: Yes. And others.
Q: (A) How they are described within a theory, or how they intersect
in space when they come together?
Q: (A) Okay, why does this increase in the Sun's gravity have anything
to do with electromagnetism? We were told that the Brown star will not
radiate any radiation, so, in particular, no electromagnetic radiation.
So, where does electromagnetics come in? I do not understand...
A: Gravitational pull incites electromagnetic impulse.
Q: (A) Okay, that means we go beyond gravitational theory, and this
is part of Unified Field Theory?
A: Yes, exactly!! The complete UFT was withheld from you!
Q: (L) I think they mean humanity in general...
Q: (T) So, the complete UFT is known to someone here on the planet?
Q: (T) And they are not making it available...
A: Oh no, because "The Truth Will Set You Free!"
Q: (J) From gravity!
A: You may access hyperspatial truths with UFT.
Q: (A) Is it a good time for me to know more on that, to work on that?
Can you give me a pointer so that I can discover it for myself?
A: Back up to where you were in "69."
Q: (T) You must have been looking into something in 1969... you were
a young'n then and didn't know you had stumbled onto something. (A)
I was reading books by Lichnerowicz on UFT...
A: Yes. Check the notes.
Q: (L) Well, we have a REAL problem with these notes and papers and
things because of the fact that the bags that they were packed in have
A: Gee, we wonder why?!?
Q: (L) If we make a stink about these bags, will we get them back?
A: No. Wait to see if they arrive.
Q: (L) We have been waiting a year! Well, there was a lot of stuff for
them to go through... we'll have to wait awhile!
A: Even without notes, the lonely young man walks down the concrete
walk with the clumsily arranged light poles, contemplating the truth,
the REAL truth. You were in an alpha state, a crossroads, wondering
"where do I go from here?" "And why are all these things being pushed
onto me?" Go back to then, Arkady. You know you are really a "Russian"
Q: (A) Well, we started with the increased mass of the Sun, and we came
to UFT which is hidden from us because it would make us free; there
is this tendency in me to follow this road because it is science and
would open a new road. The question is whether such activity or knowing
such things will lead to other densities? Is it just for satisfaction,
or is there real value in knowing more in this direction?
A: Well, the Unified Field Theory unlocks the door completely to the
Q: (T) But there are parts of this that have yet to be discovered by
the general research books because it is being kept secret?
Q: (T) Has science acknowledged that gravity is a wave, as something
that can be measured, quantitative?
Q: (L) What gravity is and what it is not is a controversy. (T) But
if gravity is part of the UFT, and somebody knows what it is... (L)
They are building HAARP. (T) I think there is more to it than this HAARP.
UFT is a major step...
Q: (L) What kind of grids... (T) They keep jumping off... wait a minute...
A: We are not "jumping off."
Q: (L) What kind of grids?
A: The planet has been enshrouded with EM grid.
Q: (T) Are these the ley lines?
Q: (L) Are they artificially generated?
Q: (L) They are artificially contoured. What is the result of this shrouding?
A: Manipulated for use by 3rd/4th Consortium.
Q: (A) What kind of EM grid? (L) The natural EM grid is being contoured...
A: Like a gently waving geometric "blanket."
Q: (T) Is it on the surface of the planet, through the planet, or where?
Q: (J) Do microwave towers factor into this?
A: Indirectly discovered by same principal. [person?]
Q: (A) Who is this principal? A name? (T) The gravity waves, whether
they exist or not, are a controversy, yet they are part of the UFT,
and someone already knows how it works. Therefore, it is only controversy
to those who don't know what the answer is, and it is not a controversy
to those who know. They know what it is and how to measure it and how
to use it.
A: Of course.
Q: (T) So, it is only a controversy that is allowed to be. (L) Or created.
(A) Some power is used to sustain this grid. What is it?
A: Land and space based generators.
Q: (T) What can it be used for?
A: Multiple uses.
Q: (L) Well, what are the top three, for example?
A: No "top three."
Q: (T) Just an example, give us an idea? How does this affect us?
A: Broaden concept.
Q: (T) Can this grid be used by other objects as a power source? (J)
Can it be tapped into?
Q: (L) It is a net that traps things?
Q: (L) It is a net that...
Q: (J) Internet? (T) Is it like a big fence to keep us in?
A: You are dancing on the 3rd density ballroom floor. "Alice likes to
go through the looking glass" at the Crystal Palace. Atlantean reincarnation
surge brings on the urge to have a repeat performance.
Q: (T) The Atlanteans who have reincarnated are getting ready to do
the same thing they did before with the crystals. So, this is an Atlantean
type thing that is being done now? Different equipment, but the same
type of thing?
A: All lessons must be learned before you can move onto bigger and better
Q: (L) Is that a general statement about the Atlanteans repeating the
lessons, or that once we learn this lesson, we can move onto bigger
and better things in counteracting this grid?
A: All that is present and future too.
Q: (T) Well, maybe it is a defensive shield that has been put up to
protect us since we have monkeyed with the ozone so much...
A: No. Better to contemplate and meditate. No linear thinking please,
you know better.
Q: (J) I think they just slapped your hand. (A) I want to ask if there
is something that we can and should do about this grid for ourselves?
A: Why? To know was all you need.
Q: (A) Well, it was said that this was for the purpose of control and
manipulation. So, knowing is all that we need. Or, we could try to shield...
(L) But, to know IS the shield. I don't know how that works, but it
seems to be so.
Q: (A) Now, how did we come to this grid from UFT?
A: Grid construction represents application of...
Q: (L) Somehow we went from the increased gravity of the Sun, to UFT,
to the grid...
A: UFT explains the "increased" gravity of Sol. But, is there not something
in UFT about increase/decrease???
Q: (A) There is no reason for it to increase or decrease... but this
is Einstein's theory which we were told is incorrect... (L) Well, maybe
it is speed? When two things are rotating in tandem, when they come
together, wouldn't it increase their speed, and doesn't speed increase
gravity? (A) No, we were told that there is some interaction between
gravity and EM wave, and this is what UFT is about... If we use other
dimensions which we are supposed to use in this UFT, going with Kaluza-Klein,
then the very concept of mass is something which is not so clear, and
mass can be variable...
A: Yes, variability of physicality.
Q: (T) Fourth density. (A) We were told earlier that this UFT opens
the door to other densities...
Q: (A) Can we have a UFT which unifies EM and gravity and does not include
the concept of other densities. In other words, can we put in a textbook
all about the gravity and electromagnetics, and a student could learn
all of this and still know nothing about other densities?
A: No. Other densities become apparent when...
Q: (A) So, it means that Einstein and Von Neumann knew about these other
A: Yes, oh yes!!!
Q: (T) Just a thought: having UFT and being able to manipulate different
fields within it, creates different effects. So, as we understand it
in the apparent present state of science, we have to spin something
in space in order to create gravity. But, with the UFT, one small offshoot
is that one could create real gravity without spinning anything. So,
the problem of weightlessness is really already solved...
A: Elementary my dear Terry, elementary.
Q: (T) So, this whole thing with the space station and all the trouble
they are having readapting to gravity when they come back, is all a
A: When you "let the cat out of the bag," you create an entire feline
Q: (T) So, we are capable of "Star Trek" right now?
A: In a sense, but there is so much more than that.
Q: (T) Of course. Most people would say that 'cutting edge' science
is 25 years ahead of what we see, and I say it is more like a hundred
years, and I am even off? Cutting edge science on this planet is more
like 3 or 4 hundred years ahead?
A: More like 30 to 40,000 years "ahead!"
Q: (L) Is that because of 4th density influence and information?
Q: (T) 30 to 40 thousand years? Let me get that number right...
A: Yes, at least.
course, brings us back to our problem: what to do?
Q: (L) I read the new book by Dr. David Jacobs, professor of History
at Temple University, concerning his extensive research into the alien
abduction phenomenon. [Dr. Jacobs wrote his Ph.D. thesis on the history
of the UFOs.] Dr. Jacobs says that now, after all of these years of
somewhat rigorous research, that he KNOWS what the aliens are here for
and he is afraid. David Jacobs says that producing offspring is the
primary objective behind the abduction phenomenon. Is this, in fact,
A: Part, but not "the whole thing."
Q: (L) Is there another dominant reason?
Q: (L) Replacement of what?
Q: (L) How do you mean? Creating a race to replace human beings, or
abducting specific humans to replace them with a clone or whatever?
A: Mainly the former. You see, if one desires to create a new race,
what better way than to mass hybridize, then mass reincarnate. Especially
when the host species is so forever ignorant, controlled, and anthropocentric.
What a lovely environment for total destruction and conquest and replacement...
Q: (L) Well, that answered my other question about the objective. Well,
here in the book, Dr. Jacobs says that there is ongoing abductions through
particular families. I quote:
protecting the fetus, there are other reasons for secrecy. If abductions
are, as all the evidence clearly indicates, an intergenerational phenomenon
in which the children of abductees are themselves abductees, then
one of the aliens' goals is the generation of more abductees. Are
all children of abductees incorporated into the phenomenon? The evidence
suggests that the answer is yes. If an abductee has children with
a non-abductee, the chances are that all their descendants will be
abductees. This means that through normal population increase, divorce,
remarriage and so on, the abductee population will increase quickly
throughout the generations. When those children grow and marry and
have children of their own, all of their children, whether they marry
an abductee or non-abductee, will be abductees. To protect the intergenerational
nature of the breeding program, it must be kept secret from the abductees
so that they will continue to have children. If the abductees KNEW
that the program was intergenerational, they might elect not to have
children. This would bring a critical part of the program to a halt,
which the aliens cannot allow. The final reason for secrecy is to
expand the breeding program, to integrate laterally in society, the
aliens must make sure that abductees mate with non-abductees and produce
seems to suggest that there is a particular bloodline that is susceptible
A: We have told you before: the Nazi experience was a "trial run," and
by now you see the similarities, do you not?
Q: (L) Yes, I do see...
A: Now, we have also told you that the experience of the "Native Americans"
vis a vis the Europeans may be a precursor in microcosm. Also,
what Earthian 3rd density does to Terran 2nd density should offer "food
for thought." In other words, thou are not so special, despite thy perspective,
eh? And we have also warned that after conversion of Earth humans to
4th density, the Orion 4th density and their allies hope to control
you "there." Now put this all together and what have you? At least you
should by now know that it is the soul that matters, not the body. Others
have genetically, spiritually and psychically manipulated/engineered
you to be bodycentric. Interesting, as despite all efforts by 4th through
6th density STO, this "veil remains unbroken."
Q: (L) Now, the big question is: what are we supposed to DO with this
A: As with all else, it is not what you should do with it, it is just
that you have it.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility of defeating the plans of the 4th density
STS in this project?
A: Is there any possibility of defeating the Spanish Conquistadores
and the English, French, Dutch and German "colonists?"
Q: (F) Did they say what I think they said? (L) Yes. That is inexpressibly
A: And you expected a Rose Garden?
Q: (L) If that's the way it is, why don't we all join the Heaven's Gate
cult and commit mass suicide and just not deal with all this stuff?!
A: You chose to "deal with it," now did you not?
Q: (L) Well, was I in my right mind when I made that choice, or had
I been drinking?
A: No drinking on 5th density!
Q: (L) Now, I have been having an exchange with Carla McCarty who was
the Ra channel. She says that we are not supposed to DO anything, we
are just supposed to BE, and what we are supposed to BE is to just let
love flow through us, love the aliens and everybody and just sort of
relax in the tulips and, if they take us over, then we should LOVE that,
too. Somehow, I don't find this...
A: All there is is lessons!!
Q: (L) Is the lesson to learn how to give up the ghost with panache?
What's the point?
A: Your experiences never end, only transform. No bodycentrics need
Q: (L) Well, you once said something about the transition to 4th density
creating a 'level playing field.' Then, the people will wake up and
there will be a battle between the humans and aliens...
Q: (L) And if it is a more level playing field, then the situation would
not quite be the same as the Conquistadores against the Aztecs and the
Native Americans against the Europeans and...
A: Wrong, all in that drama were at 3rd density. The rabbits, rats,
dogs, etc. are not on a level playing field with you!
Q: (L) Do the aliens know about the upcoming comets and all that sort
Q: (L) And they have the idea that what they are doing, this race they
are creating, is going to survive this cataclysmic activity?
A: Of course.
Q: (L) Is that 'of course' as in they ARE going to survive, or that
they BELIEVE they are going to survive?
Q: (L) Okay, you once told us that this was like a 'cosmic battle.'
That the cycle was going to create balance and so on. I am trying to
understand this. If that is the case, it seems that there is more to
it than the Conquistadores against the Aztecs and the Europeans against
the Native Americans; that at some point the story changes - the oppressed
fight back - I am trying to get the allegory into a more understandable
framework. Do you see what I mean?
Q: (L) Well, that is because I am confused. What I am trying to ask
without asking it directly is: what chance do we have of doing anything?
A: You are still not seeing the "bigger picture."
Q: (L) What is the bigger picture?
A: Your souls, your consciousness.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we chose to come in at this particular point
in time to experience this mass takeover of our planet and the conquest
and destruction of the human race, just so we could have this experience,
check- out and reincarnate?
Q: (L) Well, that is what it sounds like! You say that the only thing
that really matters is our souls, our consciousness, so if we tend to
our souls and our bodies check out, then obviously the answer is to
a) reincarnate, or b) move to the next density and reincarnate. What
other option is there?
A: How long did you expect to "live?"
Q: (L) Well, under the normal circumstance, 70 or 80 years, optimistically.
A: And is that long?
Q: (L) No, it is not. By cosmic standards it is a whiff of vapor. What
are you getting at here?
A: Think about it. ? Have you had any contemporaries who transited to
Q: (L) Yes.
A: How come? How can this be possible?
Q: (L) Because they died. The body died.
Q: (L) Because that is what bodies do.
A: But is it "fair?"
Q: (L) Is it fair?! I guess if that is what they choose.
Q: (L) I don't know where you are going with this!
A: You seem to be under the impression that only "good" experiences
Q: (L) No, I am not under the impression that only good experiences
are acceptable, but I AM in a little bit of a quandary here because,
here we are talking to you guys who are supposed to be 'us' in the future.
Here we are in this period of time on this planet, where things are
in a very strange state. There is some kind of huge transition going
on, and I am just wondering what is the whole point. Why are we talking
to you? What's the point?
A: It is the lesson. Do you not understand still? The lesson, the lessons,
that is all there is. They are all immeasurably valuable.
Q: (L) Okay, we are having these lessons. You have told us what is going
on. We see it going on around us. I am convinced that what you have
said is so from a LOT of other circumstantial evidence as well as the
research of others who have come to the same conclusion and, DAMN IT,
IT'S UGLY! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?! IT'S UGLY!
A: That is your perspective.
Q: (L) Well, as C** said on the phone the other day, what are we supposed
to awaken to? Are we supposed to just awaken to the fact that we can
SEE all this stuff going on?
Q: (L) And just waking up and seeing it is the whole thing? Okay, once
we wake up and SEE it, why can't we just check out at that point? If
you know what the script is, you don't have to watch the movie!
A: But then you miss out on the experience.
Q: (L) So, we are all here to experience being munched and crunched...
Q: (L) Imprisoned, controlled, being treated like rats in a cage in
A: Ecstasy, remember?
Q: (L) Ecstasy?! WELL SWELL! We can just ALL be BURNED AT THE STAKE!
I understand that is QUITE an ECSTATIC experience! I'm sure William
Wallace felt perfectly ecstatic when they castrated him and removed
his bowels and burned them in a brazier in front of his face!
A: Not so long ago, your face smashed upon the pavement...
Q: (L) Was that an ecstatic experience?
Q: (L) So, when you say 'ecstatic' you could just be talking about jumping
out a window and croaking?! You gotta understand here! The perspective
here on 3rd density! You don't have faces to smash on pavements!
A: Neither will/do you/us.
Q: (A) You say knowledge protects. It protects against WHAT?
A: Many things. One example: post transformational trauma and confusion.
Q: (L) So, knowledge is going to protect us against post transformational
trauma and confusion. You are saying that this transition to 4th density
is going to be traumatic and confusing. Do you mean transformation from
3rd to 4th density, or 3rd to 5th density, i.e. death?
Q: (L) So, if one does not have the shock and trauma and the confusion
and so forth, one is then able to function better?
Q: (L) Well, if a person transitions directly from 3rd to 4th density
without cycling through 5th density via dying, that implies that persons
can transition directly from 3rd to 4th density without dying. Is that
Q: (L) How does that feel? How is that experience...
A: Alice through the looking glass.
Q: (A) Okay, they say that knowledge is supposed to protect from trauma
and confusion. On the other hand, all is lessons, so trauma is a lesson.
Why are we supposed to work to avoid a lesson?
A: You are correct, it is a lesson, but if you have foreknowledge, you
are learning that lesson early, and in a different way.
Q: (L) So, if you learn the lesson in a different way, does that mitigate
the need or the way or the process of the way of learning at the time
A: Yes. Smoother.
Q: (L) I do have to say that thinking about it all, not being able to
do anything about it, not being able to talk to people about it because
they don't believe, is certainly more painful than being hit by the
shock of it...
Q: (L) Well, you are suggesting that I CAN tell others such things?
A: You can convey, but suggest it be done in a subtle fashion.
Q: (L) Well, how subtle can it be? I mean, 'hello folks, you know the
words munch, crunch, yum yum???'
A: It is not all that way, and you know it! Most are not eaten, just
manipulated. Knowledge protects in the most amazing ways. Mathematics
are "taught' in your realm in such a way that only a select few will
learn. And mathematics is the language of all creation. For example,
advanced math studies, such as algebra, provide the keys to unlocking
the doors between the matter and antimatter universes. Suggest those
present who still need to, learn algebra.
Q: (L) Okay, you suggest that those present learn algebra...
A: Who need to.
Q: (L) Are you saying that we can unlock doors between matter and
anti-matter universes? Is that what you are getting at here?
Q: (L) I certainly don't want to hang out on this planet after it is
taken over by aliens and everybody is getting munched!
A: Munched? Please!!
Q: (A) I want to refer to the previous session when we were talking
about UFT and you said that I should go back to 1969. I tried to remember
what, in particular, in 1969, what was the crossroads? I couldn't remember
anything. Can I have some clue: what was it? Which month?
Q: (A) Was it in Wroclaw?
A: Yes. Lodz.
Q: (A) That is the town where my brother is living. Perhaps, yes...
I was there in 1969. Yes, that is true. I want to know about the remark
saying 'Russian at heart?'
A: You studied it, you interacted with amazing people... Hamburg...
Q: (A) Yes, that is true, but why is it relevant?
A: The doors are opened to revelation by contemplating the past which
is really the present.
Q: (A) Now, is this mention of 'Russian,' and going to Hamburg related
to research I was doing in Hamburg?
A: Reading Russian books about pertinent theoretical or hypothetical
principles? Hamburg? Research? Yes, but that is a clue and all we can
give you, lest you miss the opportunity to discover something truly
Q: (L) Okay, we'll work on it.
A: Pathway by the lightpoles, Arkadiusz...
Q: (L) One of the crop circles you interpreted was an "astronomical
twin phenomenon." What is an astronomical twin phenomenon?
A: Many perfectly synchronous meanings.
Q: (L) Synchronicity is involved. Does this have something to do with
A: Duplicity of, as in "Alice through the looking glass."
Q: (L) Double images. Does this relate to matter and antimatter?
A: Yes, and...
Q: (L) Gravity and manifesting on one side and manifesting a mirror
image on the other...
A: Yes, and... [...] Astronomical.
Q: (L) Okay, that relates to stars and planets... astronomical in terms
of another universe, an alternate universe composed of antimatter?
A: Yes, and....
Q: (L) And is this alternate universe going to merge with our universe...
Q: (L) Is this alternate universe of antimatter the point from which
phenomena occur or are manifested in our universe?
A: More like doorway or "conduit."
Q: (L) Is this alternate universe the means by which we must travel
to 4th density? Is it like a veil, or an abyss of some sort?
A: Think of it as the highway.
Q: (L) So, we must travel through this universe of antimatter in order
to reach 4th density?
Q: (L) Is something going to happen in terms of interacting with this
antimatter in order to bring about some sort of transition?
A: No. Realm Border is traveling wave.
Q: (L) Okay, you say "traveling wave," and then you say that antimatter
is the highway. Does this mean moving through antimatter or interacting
in some way with antimatter via the the impetus of the traveling wave,
or realm border?
A: Bends space/time, this is where your unstable gravity waves can
Q: (L) Utilizing antimatter by creating an EM field, which destabilizes
the gravity wave, allows antimatter to unite with matter, creating a
portal through which space/time can be bent, or traveled through via
this "bending." In other words, producing an EM field, bringing in the
antimatter, IS the bending of space/time? Is that it?
Q: (V) Is there a portal for each person, or one large portal?
Q: (V) So we move through a portal in masses?
Q: (L) Is this generating of EM fields to destabilize the gravity wave
what the HAARP assembly is designed and built for?
Q: (V) If there are not personal portals for one person, or portals
for groups of people...
A: Portal is where you desire it to be.
Q: (V) So it could just be a state of mind?
A: No. With proper technology you can create a portal where desired.
There are unlimited options.
Q: (A) I want to ask about this grid business. I have this book with
this 'sacred geometry' business, Bruce Cathie and all that. These people
draw these grids with geometric shapes that differ from simple meridians.
I would like to know how to find out what is the true geometry of this
grid? Is it as complicated as they draw it, or is it as simple as longitude
and latitude? Can I have some help with this?
A: Seek answers in the pyrotechnics.
Q: (L) Do you mean having to do with explosives or fireworks?
A: All that is related to the root. For example: lightning.
Q: (L) Yes, but what we are asking is how to SHAPE, to construct a correct
grid! Is there a particular geometric figure that applies, and are there
particular locations ...
A: No, no, no. You are assuming, and you are not being patient.
Q: (A) I don't understand what this pyrotechnics is about, but first
question: at some point we were asking about this magnetic grid, and
we were told that the grid lines are located about every 200 miles,
and that it is a regular pattern of lines...
A: Yes, but those are primary. What happens at the poles?
Q: (A) At the poles, these lines converge, and the pattern becomes more
complex, I suspect.
Q: (A) Okay, they converge at the poles, and probably go inside.
A: In atmosphere, there is undulation. At core, there is primary
convergence, and that is also your doorway/bridge.
Q: (A) Core of the Earth?
Q: (A) These lines that are being drawn, are they just one dimensional
lines, or are they a plane that crosses the Earth along these lines?
Q: (A) Well, I wanted to make sure because, when we were directed to
this place in Russia and the term 'magnetic meridian' was brought up,
and we asked the question as to where the zero magnetic meridian was
located, we were told that it was at about 90 degrees East longitude
in the Western Pacific ocean. We checked the map and it is clearly the
Indian Ocean and not the Western Pacific. Was this just a mistake?
A: No because all those lovely, shimmering oceans intersect around a
lovely island with really inexpensive real estate!
Q: (A) They are joking! They act like they drank too much! I have no
idea what that means! [Laura stops and gets the Atlas and examines the
area in question.] (L) Okay, the only island I can see that those lovely
shimmering oceans intersect around, in the terms in which you have expressed
it, is Antarctica.
And in the
following excerpt, unpublished thus far, we find some clues to the "mission"
and the possibilities, not to mention the current situation.
Q: [Laughter] Well let me ask you this: Am I right to be so upset with
Vincent and his damned ritual magic stuff?
Q: Am I right in my thinking that even if he is not conscious of it,
he was sent as an agent to extract information from me?
Q: Are the Cassiopaeans the ones that got in contact with him in his
childhood and then when he was older [as he claims]?
Q: Is he consciously working as an agent?
[...] [These next remarks about Maynerd Most will be made clear in the
Q: Where did that stuff about the "Percival 3" come from when Vincent
Q: Is there really something hidden in the "Lair of Titus?"
Q: Is there really going to be a 2010 Space war?
Q: Are we really supposed to build some kind of thing to shield the
earth in 2010?
Q: Are we supposed to build some kind of technology for SOME reason?
A: Yes. Later.
[...] [Interestingly, the following remarks about Frank Scott proved
to be stunningly correct, though we had no idea at the time how the
scenario would ultimately play out.]
Q: I want to know what "Frank" is up to?
A: Sorry he left. Listened.
Q: (A) Who is sorry? (L) Who did he listen to?
Q: I see. Is my brother mad at me, too?
Q: (L to A) I stay in trouble all the time. The only one who doesn't
get mad at me is you.
A: Frank. [Obviously, the point was that Frank was either mad at me
at the time, or was going to get mad at me via the manipulations of
Q: Well, what else can I ask to get a non-answer?
A: Yes. 5 million.
Q: 5 million questions I can ask to get a non-answer. I see.
A: Voila! Joy! Now Learn!
Q: (A) Was that a joke? (L) In other words, learning is fun?
Q: It might be fun for you guys; however, there's certain things about
this 3 D environment, like when you kick rocks, it hurts; and when you
spend more money than you have, you go into debt.
A: But it is more fun that way.
Q: Are we supposed to move to France?
Q: Are you sure?
Q: When will we move to France?
Q: Are we supposed to DO something in France?
A: More work.
Q: Well, SWELL! [...] Okay. So we're going to move to France and do
A: U 5.
Q: "U 5?!" Us and the three kids?
A: 8835 million. [...] Hope and glory is coming close! [...] Point the
way to love in realms of light. Trust on it.
Q: I want to know why so many things were told to us in code when Frank
A: Frank is a Mole.
Q: (A) If Frank was a mole, why did he leave?
A: STS looks at his own time to hook onto zone of sail soon.
Q: (L) Are you saying that STS... I don't know how to put it. Why did
he leave? Was he trying to get information and he couldn't get it, and
then they decided to pull him out, so that if he couldn't get it, I
couldn't get it either?
A: Soon to answer itself.
Q: What was it that we know that Frank couldn't know?
A: How to build a prototype.
Q: Prototype of what?
Q: Demolecularizer? Cool!
And so, we
come to the idea that Knowledge Protects - but only when information becomes
knowledge by being Utilized. And in the following excerpts, there are
clues to this Utilization:
Q: I have a few questions on the subject of Cassiopaea. On several occasions
you have described Cassiopaea or the Cassiopaeans, the unified thought
form light beings that transmit through Cassiopaea, as being the 'front
line of the universe's system of natural balance.' On another occasion
when R*** was here, she was asking questions about Isis and you said
that Isis was a 'vanguard.' Now, it seems to me that something that
is at the front line is also a vanguard - that the definitions are interchangeable,
or similar. In reading through all the various myths and legends, it
occurs to me that the similarity between the imagery of Queen Cassiopaea
and Isis is quite striking. What is the relationship between Queen Cassiopaea,
archetypally speaking, and Isis?
Q: It is subliminal? The other thing I noticed about the word 'Isis'
is that it can be slightly altered to make 'I Zeus.' And, Perseus can
be 'per Zeus' and Persia can be made to say 'per ziu.' One of the oldest
etymological roots for the word 'God' is 'ziu' from which we get 'deu.'
These all represent the English traslation of 'for God,' with Perceval
being 'per ziu val' or 'strong for God.' Could you comment on these
A: Interconnected by trilingual learning curve.
Q: Any further comments?
Q: I also noticed that the word 'Osiris' could also be slightly modified
to say 'of Sirius.' Comment, please.
A: Sirius was regarded highly in your "past."
Q: What was the foundation of this regard for Sirius?
A: "From whence cometh, is seen that which knows no limitation."
Q: Could you elaborate on that?
A: Could, but will not.
A: Because you can!
Q: Well, you have talked about the Wave before, and I complained that
we did not have time to do certain things that you had suggested that
we do. You said that, yes we would, and that these things were suggested
to "prepare" us for this event. Just trying to deal with it from a linear
point of view, we still have to build this pool with the columns, get
a Nobel prize, supposedly, work with people on the crop circles, and
all that. Are we still looking at doing these things in this linear
time progression that we exist in; that we are aware of as small children
on a very large plane?
A: If you let it flow, it will flow.
Q: So, you are us in the future, we are you in the past - when you say
this, are you "us" in the future in the sense of ALL mankind, or in
the sense of any particular group of mankind?
A: In between those limited options.
Q: Could you be more explicit?
A: No, because you wold not "get it."
Q: When I post material on the website, those people who resonate to
the material believe that this refers to them also. I have been of the
opinion that Unified Thought Form being must mean a very large group
as represented in this density. I know that we are dealing with limiting
terms. But, is this applied to people who CHOOSE the Cassiopaean option?
A: Maybe it is best to say it applies to those who recognize the application.
Q: So, if they recognize it, if they know it is them, they are part
of it. (A) But, thinking in nonlinear terms, its up to us to work to
make this precise. You are asking this question which implies that the
answer exists. But, exactly what the answer is may be it is not yet
chosen, and it is up to us to make it this way.
A: Lodestar is a clue for you.
Q: I guess that means a guiding star of some sort. Something that attracts...
a lodestone is magnetic, it is where the compass points. In the myth,
Cassiopaea, Danae, and Athena work together to enable Perseus to cut
off the head of the Gorgon and kill the sea monster and rescue Andromeda.
Of all the mythical heroes, Perseus stands out because he was SUCCESSFUL.
He went on the quest, he succeeded in the mission, he freed the maiden
in distress, killed a slew of Lizzie types, balanced the situation in
his environment, and then even lived happily ever after. He didn't lose
his reason, he didn't fail... it is about the only really successful
myth. He DID it. And did it well. Is that...
A: A quest is successfully followed one step at a time. No need to gauge
is the symbology of the 'breaking of rocks,' as in the alchemical texts,
as well as related to Perseus as 'he who breaks?'
A: Occurs at a time when rocks break, as in the electromagnetic impulses
that emanate from earthbound rocks when sheared by tectonic forces,
and much more importantly, the possible utilization of said forces whether
naturally or otherwise induced.
Q: Is the story of David a gloss of the Perseus legend?
A: Yes. More than that though.
Q: Okay, can you tell me what it is more than that?
A: A Tale of 4th Density.
Q: So it's interactive in the sense of groups, not individuals?
Q: Where is the "Ethiopia" of the Cassiopeia story? Where
it is today?
A: 4th Density.
Q: Okay, what people did it refer to, in a larger group sense, if it
was an archetypal expression?
A: Gaul. [...]
Q: What is important about "White House?"
A: Future Hit 4th density.
Q: Future what 4th density?
Q: (L) What is important about white house.
A: Go to 4th density through there.
Q: What does white house actually mean? Is it a building, or does it
have an esoteric meaning?
A: Genetic structure. [...]
Q: (L) Oh, we have a new asteroid, PM-9. Is PM-9 going to hist us on
May 10, 2003? (A) Maybe.
A: Very possible.
Q: Is that our "Kaboom, splat?"
Q: If it hits in the Pacific, Ranier will be a cladera, tsunamis would
roll into Puget Sound, and goodbye to Hawaii!
Q: (A) If it will hit, we will have nuclear radiation.
Q: (L) What is the probability?
Q: Will we move to France before then?
A: Yes. [...]
Q: (L) Well, good night unless there is something else you want to say?
A: Progress is being made at all levels, so carry on! Good Night.
And so, in
the final analysis, we come to some idea that we are living in a time
loop in which many possibilities play out over and over again according
to some archetypal pattern of the Theological Reality. At the present
moment, it seems that the Atlantean drama is being replayed. We can conjecture
from following the tracks that the two sides are represented by the Pyramid
people vs. the Circle people at our level, though at some level, these
positions merge. That isn't important to us here because that is out of
the scope of our potential function.
In any event,
what seems to have happened is that the Evil Empire of Atlantis, headquartered
in Antarctica, with major outposts in South America, India, Egypt, and
other Southern locations, was defeated by the "Athenians," or
the Northern contingent - the Hyperboreans.
shortly after this victory, disaster struck, and it was a very long time
before the different groups reassembled and were able to build the pyramids
and Stonehenge. In fact, several catastrophes occurred between the final
collapse of the Atlantean Empire in 10,662 BC and the final major disaster
on the earth that occurred at the time of the Exodus, and which included
the eruption of the volcano Thera on the island of Santorini. At each
of these periods, the STS forces worked to consolidate their position,
little by little obliterating the truth of the drama, except that it was
transmitted to us by a true initiate: Plato. And we have Fulcanelli telling
us to study the classical Greek authors, the Greek myths, for keys to
our reality. He compares them to the stories in the Bible, and we certainly
notice the similarity of the story of David to the story of Perseus. We
then wonder if the stories of the ancient world were so widely known that
they were co-opted to the use of the Egyptian religion - corrupted and
distorted and "historicized?"
On the other
hand, we have people like Schwaller de Lubicz, trashing Fulcanelli, trying
to defame him and bastardize his work, all the while promoting the agenda
of the "Egyptian Gods," in order to open the Stargates to the
reality of the Evil Empire of Atlantis - Global takeover and domination.
gave us the allegory of the cave to explain the 4th density, hyperdimensional
reality, and discussed at length the ways of accessing this so as to serve
others. He wrote:
allegory, I said, you may now append, dear Glaucon, to the previous
argument; the prison-house is the world of sight, the light of the fire
is the sun, and you will not misapprehend me if you interpret the journey
upwards to be the ascent of the soul into the intellectual world
according to my poor belief, which, at your desire, I have expressed
whether rightly or wrongly God knows.
true or false, my opinion is that in the world of knowledge the idea
of good appears last of all, and is seen only with an effort;
and, when seen, is also inferred to be the universal author of all things
beautiful and right, parent of light and of the lord of light in this
visible world, and the immediate source of reason and truth in the
intellectual; and that this is the power upon which he who would
act rationally, either in public or private life must have his eye fixed.
he said, as far as I am able to understand you.
I said, you must not wonder that those who attain to this beatific vision
are unwilling to descend to human affairs; for their souls are ever
hastening into the upper world where they desire to dwell; which desire
of theirs is very natural, if our allegory may be trusted.
there anything surprising in one who passes from divine contemplations
to the evil state of man, misbehaving himself in a ridiculous manner;
if, while his eyes are blinking and before he has become accustomed
to the surrounding darkness, he is compelled to fight in courts of law,
or in other places, about the images or the shadows of images of justice,
and is endeavoring to meet the conceptions of those who have never yet
seen absolute justice?
but surprising, he replied. [...]
shall we consider in what way such guardians will be produced, and how
they are to be brought from darkness to light, -as some are said to
have ascended from the world below to the gods? [...] The process, I
said, is not the turning over of an oyster-shell, but the turning round
of a soul passing from a day which is little better than night to the
true day of being, that is, the ascent from below, which we affirm to
be true philosophy.
As the Cassiopaeans
say: Strive always to rise.
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