(Barbara Marciniak) The Pleiadians, Sedona Seminar 2015

loreta said:
Luc, I am of the species that if I don't have books I think I will die. I understand what you are saying and I also agree to a certain point. The knowledge of a book is part of our being but we evolve, we change so also our knowledge. An example: I am not the same person now reading the Wave then 4 years ago. So my knowledge now is growing a little bit thanks that I am able to re-read the Wave.

A life without books, for me, has no sense. I know also that when a catastrophe happens, things more vital have to be deal with, but with a book, always. Even if it is just one book.

That reminds me a very sad story, about Elly Hillesum that loved books and she learned, when going to a concentration camp, to live without them. Her favorite author was Rilke. Before going to a concentration camp, when writing in her room, surronded by her books, sometimes she made reflections about how maybe in the future these books will not be there anymore. She was a very strong woman, spiritually I mean. So she gives us insights on how to learn to adapt ourselves in any circumstance that will come. On how to accept to leave what you have, free yourself of some material objects. At the end, when in the concentration camp, she was happy just looking the sky and the clouds.
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Thanks for sharing loreta. And I understand what you are saying - I had the same experience, reading a book for the second or third time with more understanding (from experience) makes me feel sometimes as if I hadn't understood anything the first time I read it! And yes, even in hard times, there should always be some time to read... I guess what I was trying to say is that I used to panic a bit when I thought about a grid/internet failure and what I will loose, and it is a good mental exercise for me to look back and realize what I've learned, what nobody can take from me anymore, and what I can still learn now. But you're right, that doesn't mean we should not worry about these things and prepare accordingly, so that we will still have a little treasure with us even when everything is in shambles :)
 
SeekinTruth said:
Yeah, some interesting stuff was said. Thanks for the synopsis, guys. I think there's a lot of bias type of skewing, though. For instance, the Malaysian Airliner disappearance. The answer is the typical internet "conspiracy" to what happened. But what the C's said about it being related to going into another realm fits the evidence much better. It literally vanished without a trace and all the authorities had a hard time trying to come up with plausible explanations....
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I agree with you on this, ST. I was a bit put-off with several things said, but that's just me.
 
Nienna said:
SeekinTruth said:
Yeah, some interesting stuff was said. Thanks for the synopsis, guys. I think there's a lot of bias type of skewing, though. For instance, the Malaysian Airliner disappearance. The answer is the typical internet "conspiracy" to what happened. But what the C's said about it being related to going into another realm fits the evidence much better. It literally vanished without a trace and all the authorities had a hard time trying to come up with plausible explanations....
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I agree with you on this, ST. I was a bit put-off with several things said, but that's just me.
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Well, ya'll put me together a list of questions from which I can select the ones I think are useful. Do it fast...
 
Just one question comes to mind:

How accurate is Barbara Marciniak's source (The Pleiadians) during the recent Sedona Seminar? Is it the same source from Bringers of the Dawn?
 
Very interesting and it's great to hear Barbara Marciniak's take on current events!

Thanks for the summaries :thup: i'll definitely listen to it later.

It seems what she says correlates to what is being observed by the forum - which makes it all the more curious that this year is reckoned to be dramatic. And yet we're projecting into 2025? This is where i think (hope!) there's some interpretation error - that could be my error :)
 
I realize that I'm a bit biased and that I'm leaning towards the things as described by the Cs. And, it seems that Marciniak is an Anunnaki fan.

List of words that have parts of "Anunnaki" in them is apparently extensive/predominant (anu-, an-, etc) backwards or forwards. Like January. The point of the exercise is to look for things, see things with new eyes that you haven't seen before. This is good training for the mind because this is how mind evolves and moves forward.
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Is CERN a portal/stargate?

The particle collider is at one level is a modern depiction of an ancient artifact that can open very large portals or stargates.
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Are the booms and sky sounds being heard all around the world space wars?

Booms and stuff are result of war games, all around us. The war in the middle east is a "dog and pony show" for the public. A place to funnel funds that disappear into black holes. A lot of mind control is done in training so those men and women who fight these space wars have mind washes. Highly trained and bequeath their kids to secret space programs as an honor. But it's very difficult if not impossible to rehabituate the fighters in these interdimensional wars - so they are retired to mars, or moon, etc. If there is no place for them and they break down.

Did you know the homeless population is largely made up of military veterans? Can't have these interdimensional warriors talk about it - their minds are cleared, and they are left to rot, so they can never talk about anything anymore.
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Are sinkholes being caused by under world nuclear wars?

All kinds of nuclear battles going on in the under world - henceforth you end up sinkholes etc. How about those perfect round laser cut looking sinkholes? How weird right? Particle beams from space, laser tech, all this stuff is occuring. The fracking does create problems, sometimes it's actually a cover for machinery and people to move in and to frack while something else is going on that a few are performing to get underground.
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Marcinek is not into the researching of things.

Listen to your inner guidance - check feelings center. If you get a message, premonition, insight, a speaking - acknowledge it even if you choose to not do it. If it's really really important you will get another sign. If uncertain, ask for a sign - ask for clarity! This year all of your lives will change - there will be some suddenness to these things. Trust it.
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Does Iran have a nuclear bomb?

Q: Speaking of the Nukis. We are entertained by all this Obama/Metaniahu scenarios. Will Iran have a nuke? Do they have one?
A: Does Iran have one? Yes they do. Of course. They're working on getting one to Syria because this is Russia. Anunnaki love military might. They are behing the buildup in East and West of military power.
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How much of this Anunnaki stuff is true and what is Enlil's portal?

They are behing the buildup in East and West of military power. The US was made "a superpower" then countered by Russia "a superpower". Then china with the Anus coming in, another. Pakistan, another Anu connection. Is it likely that this year a nuke will be set off? Book of Revelations. It's Anunnaki dictating to John of some of the prophecies that will fulfill as a signal that they are returning. Passing scepter/crown to a different Anunnaki. 7 trumpets. Many of them have been fulfilled. 6th has not yet been fulfilled. It calls for major war along the Euphrates. When it does, (could be Iran, but focus of that area), that will be the fulfillment of the 6th trumpet. The 7th is the coming of the Lord. Even Netaniahu and ISIS people know this. They want, they feel they are here to meet the Lord. Some of them know that the Lord is much different that most people think. This is serious stuff! There are people who are dreaming of fulfilling it THIS YEAR. So yes, high probability of a nuclear war breaking out to fulfill the 6th trumpets. This is why Obama is against Netaniahu because Netaniahu owns and is managing Enlil's portal.
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Zadius Sky said:
Just one question comes to mind:

How accurate is Barbara Marciniak's source (The Pleiadians) during the recent Sedona Seminar? Is it the same source from Bringers of the Dawn?
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Not a fair or even nice question IMO.
 
Laura said:
Nienna said:
SeekinTruth said:
Yeah, some interesting stuff was said. Thanks for the synopsis, guys. I think there's a lot of bias type of skewing, though. For instance, the Malaysian Airliner disappearance. The answer is the typical internet "conspiracy" to what happened. But what the C's said about it being related to going into another realm fits the evidence much better. It literally vanished without a trace and all the authorities had a hard time trying to come up with plausible explanations....
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I agree with you on this, ST. I was a bit put-off with several things said, but that's just me.
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Well, ya'll put me together a list of questions from which I can select the ones I think are useful. Do it fast...
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What comes to mind (besides the general question of accuracy):

- Can the internet be seen as a "window of opportunity"/"an experiment in human consciousnesses"? Is it likely to end soon?
- Is the warning about not sharing too much electronically sound, or is it more a distraction that keeps us from "leaving the fence"?
- Are we going to see machines integrated in the body and a divide between people refusing and people wanting this integration? What are the implications?
 
luc said:
loreta said:
Luc, I am of the species that if I don't have books I think I will die. I understand what you are saying and I also agree to a certain point. The knowledge of a book is part of our being but we evolve, we change so also our knowledge. An example: I am not the same person now reading the Wave then 4 years ago. So my knowledge now is growing a little bit thanks that I am able to re-read the Wave.

A life without books, for me, has no sense. I know also that when a catastrophe happens, things more vital have to be deal with, but with a book, always. Even if it is just one book.

That reminds me a very sad story, about Elly Hillesum that loved books and she learned, when going to a concentration camp, to live without them. Her favorite author was Rilke. Before going to a concentration camp, when writing in her room, surronded by her books, sometimes she made reflections about how maybe in the future these books will not be there anymore. She was a very strong woman, spiritually I mean. So she gives us insights on how to learn to adapt ourselves in any circumstance that will come. On how to accept to leave what you have, free yourself of some material objects. At the end, when in the concentration camp, she was happy just looking the sky and the clouds.
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Thanks for sharing loreta. And I understand what you are saying - I had the same experience, reading a book for the second or third time with more understanding (from experience) makes me feel sometimes as if I hadn't understood anything the first time I read it! And yes, even in hard times, there should always be some time to read... I guess what I was trying to say is that I used to panic a bit when I thought about a grid/internet failure and what I will loose, and it is a good mental exercise for me to look back and realize what I've learned, what nobody can take from me anymore, and what I can still learn now. But you're right, that doesn't mean we should not worry about these things and prepare accordingly, so that we will still have a little treasure with us even when everything is in shambles :)
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Absolutely! You are so right! nobody can take out our knowledge that will grow, if necessity, without our dear books. It is good to do the exercise that Etty did almost every night and see what we have, and how lucky we are, and be grateful for it. Nothing is eternal, material I mean. But what we have learned with books, our so good friends, is there. Maybe Etty, while looking at the sky, was remembering Rilke and also was able to look at the sky and be happy thanks to Rilke. The book was not there anymore, his essence yes, it was part of her knowledge.
 
luc said:
Laura said:
Well, ya'll put me together a list of questions from which I can select the ones I think are useful. Do it fast...
Click to expand...

What comes to mind (besides the general question of accuracy):

- Can the internet be seen as a "window of opportunity"/"an experiment in human consciousnesses"? Is it likely to end soon?
- Is the warning about not sharing too much electronically sound, or is it more a distraction that keeps us from "leaving the fence"?
- Are we going to see machines integrated in the body and a divide between people refusing and people wanting this integration? What are the implications?
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I would just add this to the question about the internet:

- In a past session, the Cs said that one day our computers will overpower us. Is this actually going to happen or are we first going to see a global failure of the internet due to a meltdown of the electric grid (cosmically induced or other)?
 
I was wondering as well, when she mentioned world leaders, getting a personal visit from "he who shall not be named" and their being no doubt about who is in charge, does that really happen as described?
 
Laura said:
Zadius Sky said:
Just one question comes to mind:

How accurate is Barbara Marciniak's source (The Pleiadians) during the recent Sedona Seminar? Is it the same source from Bringers of the Dawn?
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Not a fair or even nice question IMO.
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I can kind of understand his question, although it may not be because of what I am thinking. I remembered a couple of things about Barbara Marciniak said by the Cs that made me wonder about this. I went back and found them.

Session 941210

Q: (T) Barbara is also able to continue talking to you even though you are no longer the Pleiadians?
A: She may talk to someone else.
Q: (T) Are you saying that she is channeling some other source at this point?
A: Maybe.

Session 950209

Q: (L) I have here Barbara's latest book...
A: Ego driven.
Q: (L) This book is ego driven? So this is not so much true channeling as ego?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility that she has been corrupted and is channeling Lizzies?
A: No. Under pressure, constriction.
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Yeah, I think it was a mixed bag (didn't watch the video yet). Some good info mixed with some very unlikely stuff.

Just also wanted to mention that diesel generators are actually very quiet usually, as they idle at much lower RPM's than gasoline engines.
 
Seaniebawn said:
I was wondering as well, when she mentioned world leaders, getting a personal visit from "he who shall not be named" and their being no doubt about who is in charge, does that really happen as described?
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Maybe the world leaders from time to time get personals visits from some people near to the consortium or the consortium but they are not fully aware of their power or who they really are I guess! anyway could be a good question... In the "who control the BIS" thread there is a debate of who members may be part of this consortium..
 
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