Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[davey72]

I was able to figure the solution out myself..
With the breathing program I was not focusing on my breath. I was focusing on the energy. The physiological response to the reiki after doing some research does often happen. Last night, after having a few days break from the breathing program I just focused on the breath and it was a very different experience to what I am accustomed to with reiki. It was a much more passive feeling. I feel great this morning and enjoy feeling teary eyes in the mornings. So for my experience that would be the difference between Reiki and Éiriú-Eolas.

Given that I am in Ireland, I wonder if there is an 'added' effect from Éiriú-Eolas?.

I could be wrong but i think it was recommended not to do them at the same time.
Though it sounds like u may be getting somewhere.

 

[nothingman]

Thanks for the reply Davey.

I ended up missing last nights session and today didnt feel as grounded or teary.

IN terms of the 'reiki' thing, by focusing on the breath I am finding it a different experience to focusing the energy on the part of the body that that is responding to it. I do get twitchy legs from time to time. But slowly but surely.... I have some stressful scenarios to navigate through and the breathing is important. I failed to mention my quite bad sleep apnea... I hope this breathing helps!!!

 

[davey72]

Nyvf5, i also ignored the advice given at a time when i was detoxing from many years of drug use and had some not so positive experiences. The baha portion will detox negative emotions and very rapidly in some people so it sounds like you are not mentally or physiologically ready for it at this point. I will relate a couple comments that stuck with me. The pipe breath does the same anyways just over a longer period of time and i find it alarming that you would not follow the advice of a qualified instructor.
Good luck.

 

[nicklebleu]

Dear nyvf5,

A few of the mods wrote to you a couple of times that you need to seek professional help, but you haven't taken our advice. There are disclaimers about not practicing the BaHa/Bioenergetic part of EE if you are suffering from brain-chemistry imbalance, and yet you did not heed those warnings either. We, as an online community, are not equipped to deal with the severity of your symptoms. Right now you sound dangerous to yourself, and dangerous to others. Therefore, we decided to ban you from the forum, in the hopes that it will help you to look for the real-life professional help that you need, immediately.

Best of luck.

davey72, did you not read the above post from Alana? nyff5 has been barred from the forum - he needs professional help, badly!

 

[davey72]

Yes i did. I was under the impression that he is still able to read this thread and that was not only meant for him but others who may be doing the same thing.

 

[Skyalmian]

Yes I did. I was under the impression that he is still able to read this thread and that was not only meant for him but others who may be doing the same thing.

Knowing this, which is why I made the last message I did.

 

[davey72]

Yes I did. I was under the impression that he is still able to read this thread and that was not only meant for him but others who may be doing the same thing.

Knowing this, which is why I made the last message I did.

Sorry. Im a little embarassed to admit i am not sure what i said wrong. Could you please elaborate a little?

 

[Nienna]

Yes I did. I was under the impression that he is still able to read this thread and that was not only meant for him but others who may be doing the same thing.

Knowing this, which is why I made the last message I did.

Sorry. Im a little embarassed to admit i am not sure what i said wrong. Could you please elaborate a little?

I think that Skyalmian is referring to a previous post he made and I questioned whether he had seen Alana's post. He is replying to that post, I think.

 

[casper]

@Skyalmian

the attacks sometimes occur out of the blue,so there is no time to react or to reflect about it.
The there are those cases when I can literally feel/see it coming that Im getting attacked(at least harassed) in next few moments,and it actually happens.Their attacks are very stubborn and persistent and they really want it so badly,they even run after me if I have not "received" their hate on me. Then there are those attacks whom Intention is to make me frightened, like jumping at my face,making "tiger crawls" at me,they want so badly see me in fear it seems to me. They are very focused on me. And actually i do feel awkward. Like wolfs or sharks who can smell the blood of the victim,they smell my fear and my instability "my blood".

As for the nightmares I maybe will do some elaboration in Detail at some other place/ thread.

As for the pain,its more like there is more pain in common, for instance when my head or my hand stumbles against sth. it is more hurting then it should be.(no pain relief).

Good to hear you fund it going south. However in my case it seems quite the opposite,its getting more and more worse thus getting "north".

As for the anger,it is very direct,straight anger to subhumans who treated me bad and to scum that hates me for no reason,it is unpleasant to find out you are hated by somebody,just because for nothing,by sombody who is complete stranger to you,wh dont knows nothing about you,but just hating.

[Mod Edit:deleted very disturbing and violent description of wanting to hurt another]

There was a very ugly period in my life when I thought that everyone was against me, that we all want to inflict mental and emotional pain, that everyone want to use and discard as any cloth. I've read a lot of books (honestly it was very difficult, because it is difficult to concentrate, because I thought only of how to defend against nonexistent attacks), I spent unnecessarily pushing a large amount of energy.
Finally, with the help of Forum and medical specialists, scrambled myself some things in my head, correctly, observing the EE program and things are just sown in their place.
The key question that I have set in my head was .what I actually want in life?
The answers are different for everyone, but first I had to clear up some things from the past, he might come to enjoy the present and plan for the future.

 

[lainey]

I was able to figure the solution out myself..
With the breathing program I was not focusing on my breath. I was focusing on the energy. The physiological response to the reiki after doing some research does often happen. Last night, after having a few days break from the breathing program I just focused on the breath and it was a very different experience to what I am accustomed to with reiki. It was a much more passive feeling. I feel great this morning and enjoy feeling teary eyes in the mornings. So for my experience that would be the difference between Reiki and Éiriú-Eolas.

Given that I am in Ireland, I wonder if there is an 'added' effect from Éiriú-Eolas?.

I could be wrong but i think it was recommended not to do them at the same time.
Though it sounds like u may be getting somewhere.

You remember correctly. It was me who asked a while ago. It's not recommended to do Reiki at the same time as there are so many corruptions of the original "real" Reiki that it could do more harm than good. Plus EE is enough by itself. IMO it's best to stick to the tried and tested programme.

 

[davey72]

I was able to figure the solution out myself..
With the breathing program I was not focusing on my breath. I was focusing on the energy. The physiological response to the reiki after doing some research does often happen. Last night, after having a few days break from the breathing program I just focused on the breath and it was a very different experience to what I am accustomed to with reiki. It was a much more passive feeling. I feel great this morning and enjoy feeling teary eyes in the mornings. So for my experience that would be the difference between Reiki and Éiriú-Eolas.

Given that I am in Ireland, I wonder if there is an 'added' effect from Éiriú-Eolas?.

I could be wrong but i think it was recommended not to do them at the same time.
Though it sounds like u may be getting somewhere.

You remember correctly. It was me who asked a while ago. It's not recommended to do Reiki at the same time as there are so many corruptions of the original "real" Reiki that it could do more harm than good. Plus EE is enough by itself. IMO it's best to stick to the tried and tested programme.

I could be wrong but i think it was also originally the cs that said there is no need to do both at the same time.

 

[Argo]

Yesterday I did the first time whole EE program. I doing pipe breathing, meditation and POTS for years now (since 2010), but yesterday I decided to do the whole program. :)

During the three-stage breathing, in the third exercise I felt very warm and I began to sweat. Also I had an uneasy feeling when I held my arms up, but I endured to the end of this stage.
When I started with the warrior breath I felt dizziness - not for long, just a few moments.
The Baha portion I liked the most. In the beginning it was a small problem for me to follow the change of pace, but then I made an effort to focus more on Laura's voice. When the pace was quickened for the first time my arms and legs started to tickle, and as I understand it is normal. That also didn't last for long. In the end I felt very relaxed, as if I had slept for a few hours.

Since this is my first time I didn't expected anything significantly. I feel just like I'm learning how to do it, and I guess the next time will be better. :)

 

[Aya]

Thank you for sharing your experience, Argo. It's great to hear that you tried out the entire session for the first time. All the effects you experienced during the program are very common. These side effects are part of the process of emotional detoxification. Keep working and you will be better at doing belly breathing.

 

[Argo]

Thank you Aya. :)

After so many years doing only the pipe breathing and POTS, now I'm determined to do the whole program regularly. This time it was little bit difficult for me to doing pipe breathing in sitting position with my back upright, because usually I'm sitting in a chair with my back relaxed. This is something I didn't expected at all. I guess it will be easier next time. :)

 

[Aya]

Thank you Aya. :)

After so many years doing only the pipe breathing and POTS, now I'm determined to do the whole program regularly. This time it was little bit difficult for me to doing pipe breathing in sitting position with my back upright, because usually I'm sitting in a chair with my back relaxed. This is something I didn't expected at all. I guess it will be easier next time. :)

Hi Argo, just so you know, you do not need to do the pipe breathing in a sitting position with back straight.
The most important thing while you are doing EE is to be in the position that you are totally relaxed and you can do the whole program in that way. I sometime do the entire program lying down. I know some people sit in a comfortable chair while they do it. So please use your comfy chair whenever you feel like and not to hurt yourself.