jesus: what do the cass about him??
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Laura wrote extensively about Jesus in her latest book From Paul to Mark, and as far as I know she is researching a follow-up book on him. So plenty of work to get a clearer picture.
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combined excerpts from assorted sessions about JESUS roughly from 1994 to 1999 cassiopaea.org
The Jesus Transcripts
These segments are assembled with almost no additional commentary. If a subject seems confusing or incomplete, please read to the end of the page. Very often, we returned to a given subject a number of times for additional clarification.
Q: (L) I was reading some channelled information the other day that claims that Jesus is an alien, or at least, that he was more or less "created" by aliens. Was Jesus genetically engineered by Aliens?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was Mary a true virgin when she gave birth as it says in the Bible?
A: No
Q: (L) Did she conceive in the normal way? That is, did she have sexual intercourse with a man to get pregnant?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) At what point was Jesus genetically altered?
A: After birth and during childhood.
Q: (L) Was Jesus special, Christed as it is called, in any way?
A: Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement; Zindar council.
Q: (L) What is the Zindar Council?
A: Two cycle exchangers mission.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: References vast.
[We will come back to it further on, and remember the item above about long wave cycles and short wave cycles.]
Q: (L) Will Jesus be reincarnated into a body?
A: No.
[And you will soon see why this answer is "no."]
Q: (L) Last week we were talking about Jesus of Nazareth who became known as the Christ. Can we continue that subject this week?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who was Jesus of Nazareth?
A: Advanced spirit.
Q: (L) Who was the man with whom his mother, Mary, had sex to conceive Jesus?
A: Tonatha.
Q: (L) And who was this individual, Tonatha?
A: Acquaintance.
Q: (L) How old was Jesus mother, Mary, when she conceived Jesus?
A: 19.
Q: (L) Was Joseph upset to discover that Mary was pregnant as the Bible says?
A: No.
Q: (L) How old was Joseph when he married Mary?
A: 39.
Q: (L) Was Joseph accepting of this situation because he was unable to father children?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What date, counting backwards in our calendrical system, was Jesus born on?
A: 01 06 minus 14. [14 B.C.]
Q: (L) What time of day was he born?
A: 6 am.
Q: (L) Was there any unusual celestial event in terms of star or planet alignments at that time?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was there an event where the Magi came to present gifts?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Who was it that came to present him gifts?
A: 3 prophets.
Q: (L) What country did these prophets come from?
A: Iran. Also known as Persia.
Q: (L) Was Jesus an individual who had psychic or unusual powers from birth?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Did he have an awareness from the earliest times of his life that he was in some way special or chosen?
A: yes.
Q: (L) What was the "star of Bethlehem" that indicated to the prophets...
A: Spaceship.
Q: (L) What kind of space ship?
A: Mother.
Q: (L) Where did this mothership come from?
A: Other realm.
Q: (L) Does that mean other realm as in dimension or density?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do we know of these other realms or densities as other star systems or planets?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What gifts did the magi/prophets bring to Jesus as a baby?
A: Gold; spices; clothing.
Q: (L) What other realm did the mother ship come from that was sighted by the magi?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) And what was the purpose of the appearance of this mother ship at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: To lead the prophets. Also observation of event and encoding.
Q: (L) Encoding of what?
A: Infant.
Q: (L) Was that encoding done physically or telepathically?
A: Both.
Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on planet earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth density?
A: 1009.
Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus as some sources have claimed?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would be familiar if you were to name them?
A: Yes. Socrates.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to John the Baptist?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to Mary, his mother?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) There was no other spiritual relationship in the sense of being combined souls as I reead somewhere?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were either Mary or John the Baptist fifth density souls?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Are there any fifth density souls on the earth today or any of recent times we would recognize?
A: Yes. Arafat. Sadat. Pope John V.
Q: (L) Jesus grew up to the age of twelve, at which point he was Bar Mitzvahed, is that correct?
A: He was Bar Mitzvahed at the age of 10. Aramaic rite.
Q: (L) Did Jesus, during the course of his growing up years travel to other countries and study under other masters?
A: No.
Q: (L) Where did he receive his teaching or training?
A: Channelled to him.
Q: (L) Did he at any point in his life travel to India as has been suggested by many other sources?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he travel to Egypt and undergo an initiation in the Great Pyramid?
A: No.
Q: (L) He lived his entire life in Palestine?
A: Near. In that general area. The Bible is not entirely accurate.
Q: (L) When Jesus attended the marriage at Cana, whose wedding was it?
A: Did not happen.
Q: (L) Did Jesus feed thousands of people with a few loaves and fishes?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are you saying that all the miracles of the Bible are myths?
A: Remember this is corrupted information altered after the fact for purposes of political and economic gain and control. Much of it is presented backward for sake of deception.
Q: (L) I would like to know who, exactly, corrupted the Bible and when and how they did this?
A: Illuminati brotherhood for a thousand earth years.
Q: (L) Does this mean that up until a thousand years ago the Bible was fairly accurate?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility that the Catholic church had anything to do with this corrupting influence?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does the Catholic church have in its possession actual original texts of the Bible that have not been corrupted?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were there ever such texts in existence?
A: No.
Q: (L) Who wrote the book of Matthew?
A: Greek enforcers.
Q: (L) What are Greek enforcers?
A: Like your FBI.
Q: (L) Who wrote the book of Mark?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Luke and John?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Acts?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Are any books of the New Testament written by who they claim to be written by?
A: No. Remember this is 70% propaganda.
Q: (L) Is 30% then the truth or the actual teachings?
A: Close. Enough you must decipher from instinct through meditation.
Q: (L) Tell us what Jesus really did.
A: He taught spiritual truths to those starving for them.
Q: (L) And what was the basis of these spiritual truths?
A: Channelled information from higher sources.
Q: (L) What is the truth that Jesus taught?
A: That all men are loved by the creator and are one with same.
Q: (L) Did he perform miracles?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Can you tell us about one or two of them?
A: Healing.
Q: (L) Was he able to literally heal with the touch of his hand?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he perform exorcisms?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is Reiki the method he used to heal; or something similar?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there any way to enhance the Reiki energy to make it powerful enough that one could do in a very short time what now takes quite a while?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What can one do to enhance the Reiki energy?
A: Attain lofty spiritual purity.
Q: (L) Let's go back to Jesus. Are the only miracles he did related to healing?
A: No.
Q: (L) What other kinds of miracles did he do?
A: Telekinesis.
Q: (L) Did he walk on water?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he turn water into wine?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are these all just stories?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the stories?
A: Control. Propaganda for that purpose.
Q: (L) Well, what about the big one: Was Jesus crucified?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was somebody crucified on a cross and represented to be Jesus as has been suggested by some sources?
A: No.
Q: (L) There was no crucifixion, there was no resurrection after three days, is that correct?
Q: Close.
Q: (L) Okay, close but not exactly. What is the truth on that matter?
A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem. When he awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave. 27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he was taken up in a beam of light.
Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.
Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he come back to life... so to speak...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative/sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close. Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.
Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of 'extended sleep?'
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, he was in this state for 96 hours, and then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light. [As is often reported in "alien abductions."]
Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit or spiritual archetype into the earth plane magnetic field as some people conjecture, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.
Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.
Q: (L) You say that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.
Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.
Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.
Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.
Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.
Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.
Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived in your reality. A "Time warp cocoon," if you will. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper- consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that Jesus is in a state of actual physical suspened animation, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance? A sort of "template generator?"
A: Yes. Precisely.
Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.
Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No. Once one has truly made the connection, that's all that's needed.
Q: (L) This is an interesting concept. Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes. 12 at the present "time."
Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Buddha. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Others; Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.
Q: (L) Well, getting back to the prophesied return: The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that fairly accurately rendered?
A: Close.
Q: (V) Is the Godspark the portion of the Creator that lives within us, the soul, so to speak?
A: Sounds good.
Q: (L) If the godspark is the soul within us, does anybody have godsparks times 2 or 3 or so on? That is more than others?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What type of person would have more Godspark than anybody else?
A: Jesus has "Godsparks ad infinitum".
Q: (L) How does Jesus have Godsparks ad infinitum?
A: Soul replication for communication purposes.
Q: (L) So, every time we call upon Jesus, we are replenishing our Godspark?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Would you describe these soul replications as being more like a template or hologram?
A: Hologram.
Q: (L) And what is his connection to the Creator that enables him to do this soul replication?
A: Volunteered.
Q: (L) Rudolf Steiner called Chirst "The most sublime human principle ever to unfold on earth," is this an accurate statement?
A: One interpretation.
Q: (L) He also said: "The Christ, who in the course of this evolution lived 3 years in the body of Jesus of Nazareth..." Is this a correct statement? Did the Christ statement enter Jesus at age 30?
A: Formed then. And it could do thusly in anyone who reaches such levels of service to others plus faith and supreme levels of pure thought.
Q: (L) How did this sublime being, the Christ, dwell in a human body?
A: Natural process caused by supremely pure faith and thought.
Q: (L) I would like more details about the man you say is the biological father of Jesus. Once again, what is his name?
A: Tonatha.
Q: (L) You said he was an acquaintance of Mary's?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was he selected for some reason to be the biological father of Jesus by other beings or powers.
A: Close. Q: (L) Can you give us any details about him. What was his lineage, where did he come from, etc.
A: He was a member of the White Sect.
Q: (L) What is the White Sect?
A: AKA Aryans. Aryans.
Q: (L) Was Mary a member of the Essene group as suggested by Edgar Cayce?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was this man also a member of the Essenes and is this the "White Sect?"
A: No.
Q: (L) Why did Mary not marry Tonatha?
A: Feelings were extremely transient. Influenced by telepathic suggestion. Hypnotized level 1.
Q: (L) Did Mary and Joseph, once together, subsequently have other children?
A: No. But Jesus did.
Q: (L) Jesus had children? Who was he married to?
A: Was not.
Q: (L) You mean he had illegitimate children?
A: Subjective institutionally.
Q: (L) Who was the mother of these children?
A: There were three women.
Q: (L) Are they mentioned in the Bible?
A: One is but not by name. Alicia. Rafea. Vella. Romans.
Q: (L) All three of them were Romans?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what happened to the children?
A: Survived and multiplied fruitfully.
Q: (L) How many children were there from the three mothers?
A: Three.
Q: (L) Is that, as some people claim, the true meaning of the search for the Holy Grail, that it is not a cup but the "Sang Real", or holy blood line?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any descendants of Jesus living today?
A: 364,142. 05-30-98
Q: (L) What was Jesus actual name, if different from "Jesus," as I suspect?
A: Jesinavarah.
Q: (L) Now, you say that the father of Jesus was an Aryan. That is really bizarre. Where did he come from?
A: Palestine.
Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.
Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago?
Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet.
Q: (L) When was that planet destroyed?
A: 80 thousand years ago.
Q: (L) Were any of the descendants of Jesus famous individuals that we would know.
A: Yes. Yassar Arafat. Churchill.
Q: Okay, now, you mentioned that the biological father of Jesus was an individual named Tonatha. Then, you said that this individual was a member of what you called the 'White Sect' also known as Aryans. Aryans are not precisely known as a sect, but what sect is there among Aryans that you were referring to; what is it called?
A: White sect.
Q: So, they call it the White Sect. Is it like the White Brotherhood?
A: Those of fair complexion who wear white robes.
Q: (T) We call them KKK here! (L) Similar to the Templars? Is there, for example, a name that they call themselves?
A: White Sect.
Q: And when they call themselves this, in what language did they create this moniker?
A: Aramaic.
Q: So, we need to know what it is in Aramaic. What kind of teachings did they follow?
A: Similar to the monks of orthodox Christianity.
Q: If they were similar to the monks of orthodox Christianity, then the activities of this individual in being the biological father of Jesus, would that not be considered to be breaking one's monkly vows?
A: All can be forgiven a singular indiscretion.
Q: So, this Mary knew this individual who was, for all intents and purposes, a monk in this sect and they were manipulated from higher densities to interact together and conceive a child... was he also hypnotized level 1 as you said about her?
A: Close enough.
Q: He was a monk and he had taken vows, this event occurred and this child was conceived, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: Was she also a member of some sort of similar order?
A: No.
Q: Was she in any way a sort of Temple virgin or did she had spent her whole life preparing to be the vessel for this child as has been suggested by other sources?
A: No.
Q: Is it true that the Essene community that was attempting to prepare a vessel for the coming of the messiah, that this was their whole plan, their work?
A: No.
Q: This White Sect existed... where was this monastery or group located?
A: Near today's Haifa.
Q: Where, in fact, was Jesus actually born, since I have discovered that Nazareth didn't even exist at that time?
A: [Many spirals] Nazareth. The name was acquired AFTER, but the area is the same.
Q: You have said that he did not travel and receive special teachings, yet that he knew that he was special from the beginning, and that the information was channeled to him. How do I want to phrase this? At what age did he receive this enlightenment?
A: Was progressive.
Q: So, it went on over a period of time. Did he ever know who his biological father was, that his father was a member of this White Sect... did he know that?
A: Vaguely.
Q: (L) During a previous session we asked several questions about Jesus of Nazareth known as the Christ. The question was asked: "Was Jesus special, that is, Christed, in some way?" The answer you gave was: "Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement. Zindar council." I would like to know the meaning of these references.
A: Quick exalted refers to a sudden boost of awareness level as related to your previous questions about knowledge. Sometimes that acquisition can occur in a surge and sometimes this is referred to as illumination. Jesus acquired his knowledge by having complete faith in his ability to acquire the knowledge from a higher source. This faith caused an equal balancing interaction with higher sources, which allowed him to gain supreme knowledge simply by having that faith. Remember that the resources for the acquisition of knowledge in the space/time era of Jesus were much more limited than they are now. There were few options open for acquiring true knowledge except total and complete faith. And this one was instilled with the awareness that total and complete faith would cause dramatic and spectacular acquisition of knowledge; also would cause dramatic and spectacular progression of the soul being. Therefore, the faith was felt, the knowledge was received.
Q: (L) What was the source of the knowledge?
A: The source was the sixth level of density unified thought forms in the realm of knowledge.
Q: (L) What does it mean to "end the Civil entrancement" mean?
A: That is to bring about a complete balancing of one's useful energies to a level where there is no experiencing of over balancing on the positive or negative side which is preferable for meditation in a mass form.
Q: (L) What is the Zendar Council?
A: Zendar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.
Q: (L) I would like you to expound a bit on the life of Christ in terms of chronology of events. Could you tell us about his understanding about himself, his interaction with higher sources, his state of being "Christed," and what was the true work he came her to do and how did he accomplish it?
A: His awareness of who and what he was gradually came as he grew. He was taught by 6th density through his faith as described previously. And you should have faith as well because you would find things would come to you as "knowings" more often than even now. Jesus' awareness of his mission and his actions pertaining to it were part of the natural progression of his growth and development. The information about his "miracles" has been largely corrupted by writings which have been passed down after the actual event period. Most of these writings are by entities who wish to confuse and corrupt all humanity for previously stated purposes. The idea was that if one perceived Jesus as performing physical miracles, then your entire understanding of what the life experience here on earth and on this plane is, and the meaning for it all, is also corrupted and the knowledge is blocked which is the goal of those who have done this. Jesus' purpose and plan was to teach knowledge to all who sought but did not have the strength to express as great a level of faith as he had to acquire the knowledge as he did from higher sources. If they were open and willing to learn they could be taught by hearing. He had only very limited success in imparting faith to others because faith comes solely from within and that is one of the most difficult things for beings on your plane to acquire.
Q: (L) Now, it has been discussed before that Jesus was probably the product of a genetically selected impregnation, could you comment on this and why this would be.
A: Well, that is always the case in every single birth that occurs in your level of density.
Q: (L) Could you comment on the idea that is implicit in this that Jesus was illegitimate?
A: Obviously if one feels that this would put a shadow or stain on him in some way, or the knowledge that he imparted, then you have not been paying attention. Did you not hear what was said about obsession as opposed to knowledge? Those who are truly, within themselves, at all points of development, trying to seek greater knowledge, will not be blocked by any ideas relating to illegitimacy as you refer to it. Those who are obsessed, by choice, rather than trying to seek true knowledge, will indeed be blocked at that point. It is all up to the choice of the individual. If you choose to develop and gain knowledge then you are never blocked or obsessed at any point about anything ever. However if you choose to limit your knowledge or become obsessed then you are constantly finding yourself blocked and this will manifest in all your life experiences. That is part of the individual soul development pattern. It is all based on choice. Therefore it is not possible for you to interfere with another's choice to acquire knowledge or not and how it is or is not done. There is no need to try to alter another's perceptions because that would be to interfere with free will. If one chooses to be obsessed rather than to be illumined, that is their choice!
Q: (L) On a couple of occasions it has been mentioned that Yasser Arafat was a fifth density soul and that he was a descendant of Jesus of Nazareth. What is there about him that demonstrates these qualities or these genetics?
A: Have you not seen? Imagine what it would be like to be Yasser Arafat. Look at your perception. What is he doing now?
Q: (L) Well the pro-Jewish point of view is not favorable to him.
A: Well, what you describe as pro anything is an obsession. And, as we know, obsession blocks knowledge which in turn blocks the ability to protect oneself against negative occurrences. Not a good idea. If you were following circumstances, Yasser Arafat is now trying to take the world upon his shoulders by making peace with the Israelis who have been enemies for a very long time. And, therefore, he is now a peace-maker and knowledge dispenser.
Q: (L) In that particular conflict between the Jews and the Arabs, which side has the greater validity?
A: All sides have equal validity. It is only with individuals we find negativity or positivity.
Q: (L) Do demons and evil spirits fear anything?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they fear any power that we, as humans, possess?
A: Yes. Knowledge.
Q: (L) Do they fear religious symbols, signs or figures?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is there any name or sign or symbol that can halt their activity?
A: Sometimes.
Q: (L) Were they afraid of Christ?
A: Yes. Because of his knowledge. The mass of his knowledge raised his vibrations. Knowledge is truly power.
Q: (L) According to shamanistic teachings, one can have animal spirits or guides. Is this correct?
A: Partly. You have them if you believe you have them.
Q: (L) If believing in them makes it so, is this belief beneficial?
A: All belief is beneficial at some level.
Q: (L) Did Jesus of Nazareth believe in animal spirits or totems?
A: No. Shamanism is subjective and limits. Lizard inspired.
Q: (L) I would like to know, in the description of the Pentecost, it was said that the disciples gathered in a room and prayed for days and days and suddenly a wind came rushing in and flames danced over their heads and they all began speaking in tongues. I would like to know if this event or something similar occurred?
A: No.
Q: (L) In other words, the true baptism of the "Holy Spirit" was when Jesus breathed on his disciples and transmitted something like the Reiki initiation?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What did Jesus look like? How tall was he?
A: 5'9"
Q: (L) What color eyes did he have?
A: Blue.
Q: (L) What color hair did he have?
A: Strawberry blond.
Q: (L) What was his skin tone?
A: Fair.
Q: (L) What was his weight?
A: 160.
Q: (L) Was he muscular?
A: Average.
Q: (L) Okay what was his occupation?
A: Carpenter.
Q: (L) Did John the Baptist really lose his head?
A: No.
Q: (RC) Is the word "Jesus" derivative of Isis or Zeus?
A: Neither, Jesus is moniker only.
Q: (RC) What is moniker? What do you mean? Don't you have to pray in the name of Jesus for protection?
A: Prayers are not necessary for protection once channel, or more appropriately, conduit is properly grooved!
Q: (S) What about the prayers that are directed to Jesus?
A: Jesus is one of us in "special service" sector.
Q: (L) Like a "green beret?"
A: No, more like a "beige beret."
Q: (L) What is a 'beige beret?'
A: Just our term.
Q: (PZ) Well, I have just always wondered if this praying business is a bunch of malarkey. If I pray a rosary, I am praying to the Virgin Mary. Who is she? Where is she?
A: "She" is here too.
Q: (PZ) Does that prayer go directly to her and does she then send you out to do whatever?
A: She is not really a she. And when you write to "Ann Landers," does she really see it?
Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever wrapped around Jesus.
A: No.
Q: (L) How was it made?
A: Wrapped around Roman worker.
Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?
A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.
Q: (L) Okay, forget that. Now, I am reading this book called "The Jesus Conspiracy" about the Shroud of Turin. Now, we once asked about this and you said that the image was of a Roman worker. According to the authors, this individual was crucified, and they infer from that, and the existence of the image itself, that is HAS to be Jesus, even if the carbon dating tests don't support this idea. Was this individual who was crucified, done so in the specific manner as was described for Jesus, with deliberate intent to create the illusion that the image on the Shroud HAD to be of Jesus, since Jesus was the only person who could have possibly suffered all these exact wounds as described in the Gospels?
A: No. Crucifixion was once a "popular" punishment method.
Q: (L) Can you tell us approximately what year this Roman worker was crucified who left his image on this shroud?
A: 399 A.D.
Q: (L) Okay, it has been tested and said that this individual had type AB blood, which has then led a lot of people to say that Jesus's blood type was AB...
A: But it is not.
Q: (L) Well, the science of histology has shown that type AB did not even EXIST at the time of Jesus... Let me insert another question here. Is part of the 4th density transitional adjustment also an opening of a doorway for Jesus, who is in the state of suspended animation as you have previously described, to re-emerge into the world?
A: Or re-emerge into the consciousness.
Q: (L) Of who or what?
A: All 4th density inductees.
Q: (L) Well, you have said that he is actually in a flesh body in this 'time warp' in a state of suspended animation, so to speak, or a place of no time...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is something going to happen where this singular individual, Jesus, is going to...
A: No need for that.
Q: (L) So, at the point of this 4th density transitional adjustment, what will Jesus, in his state of suspended animation be doing? Will he continue in that state forever, or will he make some shift of his own?
A: The shift is yours. Afterwards, you can see that which you cannot yet see.
Q: (L) No, about this Acharya information that states that Jesus was a mythical character.
A: No, Jesus was not mythical.
Q: (T) What about this information?
A: Babble. Nonsense. It is disinformation.
Q: One of the ancient apocryphal texts recounts the story that Joseph, husband of Mary, the mother of Jesus, described the night that Jesus was born and in that account, he described an event that could only be called "frozen time." In other words, he said that time stopped. He described people sitting at dinner with their food half-way to their mouths, arms frozen, jaws frozen in the act of chewing, and the same effect with cattle and so forth. He was on his way to get a midwife when this occurred. Did, in fact, time stop at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: Time "stops" for many at many times according to their individual sensitivity levels.
Q: Now, as you know, I have been digging through piles of books on the Grail, or the "Holy Bloodline." Who was Joseph of Arimathea?
A: A disciple of the unibound.
Q: What's a 'unibound?'
A: Singular thought. Transcendant discipline.
Q: And what does one do if one is a participant?
A: Up to 96 hours of clear channel meditation.
Q: Okay, like what you have described Jesus doing prior to his "ascension." So Joseph was a disciple of this... is this an individual or a concept?
A: Each.
Q: What was Joseph's role, if any, in relation to the 'Holy Grail?'
A: None.
Q: Who created the legends of the Holy Grail and Joseph of Arimathea bringing it to a) France, or b) England? Who was behind the creating of this group of legends?
A: Not a group of legends.
Q: Why was the 12th century the focal point for the propagation of the grail legends, the troubadours, the whole thing?
A: Beginning of "Renaissance."
Q: The story is, and there are even some very old legends in France itself, that there are caves or places where Joseph and Mary Magdalene spent the night, or lived, or whatever. Did Joseph of Arimathea actually travel to France and then to England later, with Mary Magdalene or other followers of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: Did he travel to France alone?
A: No.
Q: What is the source of these stories? What is the point of these stories?
A: Deflection.
Q: Deflection of what to what or from what?
A: Truth from recipient.
Q: Okay. Did somebody travel to France carrying some sort of object, or a person who WAS this 'object,' so to speak, as the 'holy bloodline,' or whatever?
A: Maybe it was carried by those most capable.
Q: And who would be those most capable?
A: Check the geographic link. Where are the Pyrenees?
Q: On the border between France and Spain.
A: Who lives there?
Q: The Basques, among others. Is that who we are getting at? Or the Alchemists? These mysterious "Hidden Masters"....
A: Close.
Q: So, what does that have to do with this bloodline and Holy Grail business, and Joseph of Arimathea and Mary Magdalene... I mean, did Mary Magdalene exist as a person?
A: Yes.
Q: Was she the wife of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: Did Jesus have a wife?
A: Yes.
Q: Who was his wife?
A: Anatylenia. [Note: this "name" is actually a title of the Triple Goddess in her Virgin aspect.]
Q: Who was this person? What was her background, her nationality?
A: Nazarene.
Q: Does that mean that she was from the east?
A: Possibly, if viewed that way.
Q: Did they have any children?
A: Yes.
Q: How many?
A: Three.
Q: What was Jesus/Jesinavarah's family name?
A: Marnohk.
Q: What did his wife do when he ascended into the stat of hyperconsciousness which you have previously described?
A: Awaited her turn to transition.
Q: Did she continue to live in the same general area, or did she move to Europe.
A: Same.
Q: So, all these stories being made up about all these people and dramatic scenarios...
A: It is not the people but the message, the artifacts hold the key.
Q: I noted in re-reading the transcripts on the subject that you had said Jesus lived 'near' Palestine and that the Bible was not entirely accurate. Where, precisely, did this person who came to be known as Jesus live?
A: Aramaia.
Q: Where is that?
A: In what is now Lebanon.
Q: His name was Jesinavarah, as you said before. During his lifetime, did he have a large following?
A: Towards the end, and after.
Q: You said that he was not crucified, that he was taken up into a ship on a beam of light - at that time, according to our measurement, how many years did he spend on the earth plane before he was taken up in this beam of light?
A: 43.
Q: Okay, when he was taken up in this beam of light, where did this event occur?
A: The Sea of Galilee.
Q: On the shore?
A: Yes.
Q: You said he had children by three Roman women and he also had a wife?
A: Close enough.
Q: Did he have brothers and sisters?
A: No.
Q: Is any part of the nativity story true?
A: Slight.
Q: I have been wondering about this "long haired/nazarite" business. It seems to have been thought that cutting off the hair caused them to lose their strength in some way. Was this totally symbolic, or was it actually believed that they had to grow their hair?
A: Symbolic.
Q: What was the hair symbolic of?
A: Virility.
Q: Okay, virility. What was the symbology where women were concerned such as in the story of Mary Magdalene washing Jesus' feet and drying it with her hair?
A: Acts like a brush.
Q: What was the symbology of using a brush on the feet?
A: Cleansing.
Q: Why would the feet require cleansing in the symbolic stories? Why was this a symbolic act?
A: One's standing emanates from the ground upon which one stands.
Q: How does one's standing emanate from the ground upon which one stands and how does this relate to one's feet being dried with hair?
A: Energy arises from within planet. You would not want to corrupt that with filth on the soles, would you?
Q: How does anything on the soles of the feet corrupt energy? People have dirty feet all the time! Gosh, they must be completely corrupted. Unless this was a particular ritual activity in which it was extremely important to have clean feet.
A: Would dirt on your eyes corrupt your sight?
Q: Of course! But nobody ever thinks about dirt on the body as being something that corrupts your energy.
A: Nobody?
Q: Alright, in general. So, this was a purification of energy process...
A: Symbolic of same in depiction.
Q: What was the purpose for which this ritual act was being performed. She was washing his feet before the crucifixion in the story, or some sort of symbolic cleansing was taking place, am I correct?
A: Close.
Q: This event that is described in the New Testament as the crucifixion was obviously a symbol for something else. You have told us that this was a symbolic story...
A: More like propaganda.
Q: So, the crucifixion was not symbolic of some other hidden meaning, or event?
A: See "Gods of Eden."
Q: You also said that Jesus was going to return, that he would emerge from this other density experience and come as a teacher. Is this because he is the number one teacher doing this work at the time?
A: More because the messenger most capable of delivering the message, because of expectations.
Q: And what message is he going to deliver?
A: Wait and see.
Q: You mean that we, the three of us sitting here, will see him and hear this message at some point in this reality?
A: Maybe.
Q: Would we have instant recognition?
A: Wait and see.
At this point, I was really buried in genealogy research, "grail" matters, and "bloodlines."
Q: Am I going to discover some more startling things with this "bloodline" research?
A: Discovery is the fruit of inquiry.
Q: Am I correct in my assessment that the origin of the Grail stories was the story of the Head of Bran?
A: But what was the "origin" of Brahna?
Q: Well, from the way I am interpreting what I have found, I have two possibilities: One is the Celts from Kantek, and two: a Nephilim hybrid.
A: Could be one and the same.
Q: Well, from what you have said in prior sessions, these bloodlines can be of positive or negative orientation, a duality, and that they lead to super-secret power sources. Is that correct?
A: Well, the duality is existent concommitantly through all bloodlines, but in the so-called celts, it is more pronounced, therefore, there are more vivid power cells and centers.
Q: Are these cells and centers that you talk about, are they something that is located in the body or a part of the spirit-body connection...
A: The extant body.
Q: What do you mean by "extant" body?
A: Existent/external.
Q: Okay, I will keep digging. How can I find if there is going to be a connection between the Aryan/Jewish bloodline of Jesus and the Merovingian/Plantagenet bloodline? Does it exist?
A: Only to the extent of the shared origins of the essenes and the celts.
Q: So, I will discover these as I go along, I guess. One dot leads to the next dot. The only way to learn is to do it. (A) The original questions was whether we should follow this bloodline research... to what purpose?
A: Bloodlines reveal destiny. Why do you think they have been covered up so thoroughly?
Q: Where did these bloodlines originate?
A: Orion region.
Q: For how long were they maintained with any semblance of purity?
A: Indefinite.
Q: Are you saying that they are still maintaining them and manipulating them from other densities?
A: That is for you to discover.
Q: Are these bloodlines carrying a specific codon that is designed to activate at a certain period of time or in response to a certain frequency?
A: Possibly, but why should not that apply to everyone?
Q: Okay, so we have got ticking time bombs in our DNA, all of us!
A: Maybe.
Q: Alright, bizarro... (A) It is not necessarily time bombs, these are bombs which could be ignited by something else, like knowledge. (L) Is that the case, that knowledge could unlock these codons?
A: Yes.
Q: Certain activities such as meditating?
A: Yes. Or... channeling.
Q: Okay, let me ask this, these guys who have researched this Holy Bloodline business have sort of focused all the attention on a particular line, purportedly the line of Jesus going into the Merovingian kings... This guy, Pierre Plantard, seems to have more or less created a geneology with their own validations... sort of like describing x in terms of y and y in terms of x. Now, is this Pierre Plantard a genuine carrier of the bloodline that we are concerned with?
A: Partially.
Q: Then, that makes me think that the significant thing that we are looking for is a convergence of the blood lines... These lines are symbolized by the god figures, the children of Odin, and what we are looking for is a place where these lines converge?
A: Yes.
Q: How many persons on the planet contain these 'convergant' bloodlines?
A: 7367.
Q: (L) In doing this bloodline tracking, I came across this fellow who was the Gallo-Roman Senator named Tonantius Ferreolus. Is this individual descended from Jesus/ Jesinavarah?
A: This is certainly a possibility.
Q: (L) You said that Jesinavarah had three children with three Roman women. I never asked if they were male or female children. Were they male or female?
A: Vella? What would you suppose?
Q: (L) The names Vella, Rafae and Alicia were given as the names of the three women who were the mothers. Was I mistaken and did I garble it when it was really the names of the children?
A: Sometimes, one follows another. You have the clues, and your quest has been admirable so far, why stop now?
Q: (L) So, I will find them! Okay.
A: Could be like the Holy Grail.
Q: I want to clarify the issue of Jesus' wives. The first time we asked, you said that Jesus was not married, but had three children with three Roman women. The second time we asked, you said he had a wife, Anatylenia, and had three children with this one woman. My question is: did he have six children, three with one woman, and one each with three other women?
A: No.
Q: He had a wife and not the three Roman women?
A: No. Three women, all were wives, in the "Biblical sense."
Q: Now, Anatylenia was one of these Roman women?
A: Yes.
Q: Who were here parents? What was her patronym?
A: Serm. Alain and Galleinia.
Q: There were three children, one from each woman?
A: Yes.
Q: Male and female children?
A: Yes. Two boys and one girl.
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant in any sense similar to the covenants of the Bible?
A: It is a mystical thing, not related to theology in a direct sense.
Q: How long has the Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: 5129 years.
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or between humans and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.
Q: Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar format as it did at its inception?
A: Yes.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the Quorum?
A: No.
Q: Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in opposition, or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.
Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.
Q: What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!
Q: Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the same ones involved with the genetic engineering of new bodies for the Lizzies to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
A: No.
Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.
Q: You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it could be positive or negative. So, if that is the negative side of it, is the positive the same, or different?
A: Too complex for your current understanding.
Q: Is the 'buried treasure' of the Templars or Cathars, or whoever, manuscripts from the Alexandrian library telling about the true origin and nature of man?
A: Well if so, maybe that would explain the structure you live under.
Q: Society? The Universe? The EM grid? Any or all of the above? What structure do I live under?
A: Forced choices.
Q: Alright, I found this article on the net called 'Hidden History of Jesus and the Holy Grail' written by Sir Laurence Gardner, KT etc., author of 'Bloodline of the Holy Grail,' transcribed from a lecture given at 'The Ranch' in Yelm, Washington. What he says is that he had been appointed historian and 'sovereign genealogist' to 33 royal families... he was putting together written chronological accounts of things these families knew the substance of, but not the details. He talks about the fact that Jesus was married and that he had heirs and that this was discussed in the published papers of Mary, Queen of Scots, and in the papers of James II of England. He says: 'I began this work with separate commissions from separate families, doing work on these genealogies. What happened was they began to converge. It became very apparent, and it took a long time, because genealogies have to be done backwards, put together backwards, and constructed backwards; but what was happening was that a triangle from a large top base with numerous family lines, was pulling to a point. I suddenly realized what this point was and I said 'wow! do you realize what I have found here?' and they said 'oh, you know, the father of so and so,' and I said 'oh, no, no, what I am finding is that this comes out of the house of Judah in the first century.' And they said: 'yeah, we know all that, what we wanted you to do was blah blah blah.' So, he says that he had access to Celtic Church records dating back to 37 A.D., the very documents that the Knights Templar brought out of Europe in 1128 and confronted the Church establishment with, and frightened the life out of them because these were documents that talked about bloodlines and genealogies. Blah blah blah. Before I go on, this guy says that all these family lines go back to the house of Judah. Do they actually have written genealogies back to the house of Judah connecting the royal families of Europe to this house?
A: Somewhere, maybe.
Q: Did Jesus descend from the house of Judah?
A: Is it important really?
Q: In other words, this guy is just blowing more smoke over the issue? I think he is blowing smoke.
A: Okay. Perhaps.
Q: It seems to me that if what he was saying was true, that he certainly would not be allowed to say it. It's based on and converges with all the stories they are telling about Rennes-le-Chateau and seems to be more smokescreen.
The Jesus Transcripts
These segments are assembled with almost no additional commentary. If a subject seems confusing or incomplete, please read to the end of the page. Very often, we returned to a given subject a number of times for additional clarification.
Q: (L) I was reading some channelled information the other day that claims that Jesus is an alien, or at least, that he was more or less "created" by aliens. Was Jesus genetically engineered by Aliens?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Was Mary a true virgin when she gave birth as it says in the Bible?
A: No
Q: (L) Did she conceive in the normal way? That is, did she have sexual intercourse with a man to get pregnant?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) At what point was Jesus genetically altered?
A: After birth and during childhood.
Q: (L) Was Jesus special, Christed as it is called, in any way?
A: Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement; Zindar council.
Q: (L) What is the Zindar Council?
A: Two cycle exchangers mission.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: References vast.
[We will come back to it further on, and remember the item above about long wave cycles and short wave cycles.]
Q: (L) Will Jesus be reincarnated into a body?
A: No.
[And you will soon see why this answer is "no."]
Q: (L) Last week we were talking about Jesus of Nazareth who became known as the Christ. Can we continue that subject this week?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who was Jesus of Nazareth?
A: Advanced spirit.
Q: (L) Who was the man with whom his mother, Mary, had sex to conceive Jesus?
A: Tonatha.
Q: (L) And who was this individual, Tonatha?
A: Acquaintance.
Q: (L) How old was Jesus mother, Mary, when she conceived Jesus?
A: 19.
Q: (L) Was Joseph upset to discover that Mary was pregnant as the Bible says?
A: No.
Q: (L) How old was Joseph when he married Mary?
A: 39.
Q: (L) Was Joseph accepting of this situation because he was unable to father children?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What date, counting backwards in our calendrical system, was Jesus born on?
A: 01 06 minus 14. [14 B.C.]
Q: (L) What time of day was he born?
A: 6 am.
Q: (L) Was there any unusual celestial event in terms of star or planet alignments at that time?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was there an event where the Magi came to present gifts?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Who was it that came to present him gifts?
A: 3 prophets.
Q: (L) What country did these prophets come from?
A: Iran. Also known as Persia.
Q: (L) Was Jesus an individual who had psychic or unusual powers from birth?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Did he have an awareness from the earliest times of his life that he was in some way special or chosen?
A: yes.
Q: (L) What was the "star of Bethlehem" that indicated to the prophets...
A: Spaceship.
Q: (L) What kind of space ship?
A: Mother.
Q: (L) Where did this mothership come from?
A: Other realm.
Q: (L) Does that mean other realm as in dimension or density?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do we know of these other realms or densities as other star systems or planets?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What gifts did the magi/prophets bring to Jesus as a baby?
A: Gold; spices; clothing.
Q: (L) What other realm did the mother ship come from that was sighted by the magi?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) And what was the purpose of the appearance of this mother ship at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: To lead the prophets. Also observation of event and encoding.
Q: (L) Encoding of what?
A: Infant.
Q: (L) Was that encoding done physically or telepathically?
A: Both.
Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on planet earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth density?
A: 1009.
Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus as some sources have claimed?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would be familiar if you were to name them?
A: Yes. Socrates.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to John the Baptist?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to Mary, his mother?
A: Pact.
Q: (L) There was no other spiritual relationship in the sense of being combined souls as I reead somewhere?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were either Mary or John the Baptist fifth density souls?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Are there any fifth density souls on the earth today or any of recent times we would recognize?
A: Yes. Arafat. Sadat. Pope John V.
Q: (L) Jesus grew up to the age of twelve, at which point he was Bar Mitzvahed, is that correct?
A: He was Bar Mitzvahed at the age of 10. Aramaic rite.
Q: (L) Did Jesus, during the course of his growing up years travel to other countries and study under other masters?
A: No.
Q: (L) Where did he receive his teaching or training?
A: Channelled to him.
Q: (L) Did he at any point in his life travel to India as has been suggested by many other sources?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he travel to Egypt and undergo an initiation in the Great Pyramid?
A: No.
Q: (L) He lived his entire life in Palestine?
A: Near. In that general area. The Bible is not entirely accurate.
Q: (L) When Jesus attended the marriage at Cana, whose wedding was it?
A: Did not happen.
Q: (L) Did Jesus feed thousands of people with a few loaves and fishes?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are you saying that all the miracles of the Bible are myths?
A: Remember this is corrupted information altered after the fact for purposes of political and economic gain and control. Much of it is presented backward for sake of deception.
Q: (L) I would like to know who, exactly, corrupted the Bible and when and how they did this?
A: Illuminati brotherhood for a thousand earth years.
Q: (L) Does this mean that up until a thousand years ago the Bible was fairly accurate?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility that the Catholic church had anything to do with this corrupting influence?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does the Catholic church have in its possession actual original texts of the Bible that have not been corrupted?
A: No.
Q: (L) Were there ever such texts in existence?
A: No.
Q: (L) Who wrote the book of Matthew?
A: Greek enforcers.
Q: (L) What are Greek enforcers?
A: Like your FBI.
Q: (L) Who wrote the book of Mark?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Luke and John?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Acts?
A: Same.
Q: (L) Are any books of the New Testament written by who they claim to be written by?
A: No. Remember this is 70% propaganda.
Q: (L) Is 30% then the truth or the actual teachings?
A: Close. Enough you must decipher from instinct through meditation.
Q: (L) Tell us what Jesus really did.
A: He taught spiritual truths to those starving for them.
Q: (L) And what was the basis of these spiritual truths?
A: Channelled information from higher sources.
Q: (L) What is the truth that Jesus taught?
A: That all men are loved by the creator and are one with same.
Q: (L) Did he perform miracles?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Can you tell us about one or two of them?
A: Healing.
Q: (L) Was he able to literally heal with the touch of his hand?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he perform exorcisms?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is Reiki the method he used to heal; or something similar?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there any way to enhance the Reiki energy to make it powerful enough that one could do in a very short time what now takes quite a while?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What can one do to enhance the Reiki energy?
A: Attain lofty spiritual purity.
Q: (L) Let's go back to Jesus. Are the only miracles he did related to healing?
A: No.
Q: (L) What other kinds of miracles did he do?
A: Telekinesis.
Q: (L) Did he walk on water?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he turn water into wine?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are these all just stories?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the stories?
A: Control. Propaganda for that purpose.
Q: (L) Well, what about the big one: Was Jesus crucified?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was somebody crucified on a cross and represented to be Jesus as has been suggested by some sources?
A: No.
Q: (L) There was no crucifixion, there was no resurrection after three days, is that correct?
Q: Close.
Q: (L) Okay, close but not exactly. What is the truth on that matter?
A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem. When he awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave. 27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he was taken up in a beam of light.
Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.
Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he come back to life... so to speak...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative/sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close. Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.
Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of 'extended sleep?'
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, he was in this state for 96 hours, and then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light. [As is often reported in "alien abductions."]
Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if he didn't die and release his spirit or spiritual archetype into the earth plane magnetic field as some people conjecture, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.
Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.
Q: (L) You say that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.
Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does Jesus' soul divide?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.
Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.
Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.
Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.
Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.
Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all "rules" regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived in your reality. A "Time warp cocoon," if you will. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum--as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper- consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that Jesus is in a state of actual physical suspened animation, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance? A sort of "template generator?"
A: Yes. Precisely.
Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.
Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No. Once one has truly made the connection, that's all that's needed.
Q: (L) This is an interesting concept. Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes. 12 at the present "time."
Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Buddha. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Others; Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.
Q: (L) Well, getting back to the prophesied return: The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that fairly accurately rendered?
A: Close.
Q: (V) Is the Godspark the portion of the Creator that lives within us, the soul, so to speak?
A: Sounds good.
Q: (L) If the godspark is the soul within us, does anybody have godsparks times 2 or 3 or so on? That is more than others?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What type of person would have more Godspark than anybody else?
A: Jesus has "Godsparks ad infinitum".
Q: (L) How does Jesus have Godsparks ad infinitum?
A: Soul replication for communication purposes.
Q: (L) So, every time we call upon Jesus, we are replenishing our Godspark?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Would you describe these soul replications as being more like a template or hologram?
A: Hologram.
Q: (L) And what is his connection to the Creator that enables him to do this soul replication?
A: Volunteered.
Q: (L) Rudolf Steiner called Chirst "The most sublime human principle ever to unfold on earth," is this an accurate statement?
A: One interpretation.
Q: (L) He also said: "The Christ, who in the course of this evolution lived 3 years in the body of Jesus of Nazareth..." Is this a correct statement? Did the Christ statement enter Jesus at age 30?
A: Formed then. And it could do thusly in anyone who reaches such levels of service to others plus faith and supreme levels of pure thought.
Q: (L) How did this sublime being, the Christ, dwell in a human body?
A: Natural process caused by supremely pure faith and thought.
Q: (L) I would like more details about the man you say is the biological father of Jesus. Once again, what is his name?
A: Tonatha.
Q: (L) You said he was an acquaintance of Mary's?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was he selected for some reason to be the biological father of Jesus by other beings or powers.
A: Close. Q: (L) Can you give us any details about him. What was his lineage, where did he come from, etc.
A: He was a member of the White Sect.
Q: (L) What is the White Sect?
A: AKA Aryans. Aryans.
Q: (L) Was Mary a member of the Essene group as suggested by Edgar Cayce?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was this man also a member of the Essenes and is this the "White Sect?"
A: No.
Q: (L) Why did Mary not marry Tonatha?
A: Feelings were extremely transient. Influenced by telepathic suggestion. Hypnotized level 1.
Q: (L) Did Mary and Joseph, once together, subsequently have other children?
A: No. But Jesus did.
Q: (L) Jesus had children? Who was he married to?
A: Was not.
Q: (L) You mean he had illegitimate children?
A: Subjective institutionally.
Q: (L) Who was the mother of these children?
A: There were three women.
Q: (L) Are they mentioned in the Bible?
A: One is but not by name. Alicia. Rafea. Vella. Romans.
Q: (L) All three of them were Romans?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what happened to the children?
A: Survived and multiplied fruitfully.
Q: (L) How many children were there from the three mothers?
A: Three.
Q: (L) Is that, as some people claim, the true meaning of the search for the Holy Grail, that it is not a cup but the "Sang Real", or holy blood line?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there any descendants of Jesus living today?
A: 364,142. 05-30-98
Q: (L) What was Jesus actual name, if different from "Jesus," as I suspect?
A: Jesinavarah.
Q: (L) Now, you say that the father of Jesus was an Aryan. That is really bizarre. Where did he come from?
A: Palestine.
Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.
Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago?
Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet.
Q: (L) When was that planet destroyed?
A: 80 thousand years ago.
Q: (L) Were any of the descendants of Jesus famous individuals that we would know.
A: Yes. Yassar Arafat. Churchill.
Q: Okay, now, you mentioned that the biological father of Jesus was an individual named Tonatha. Then, you said that this individual was a member of what you called the 'White Sect' also known as Aryans. Aryans are not precisely known as a sect, but what sect is there among Aryans that you were referring to; what is it called?
A: White sect.
Q: So, they call it the White Sect. Is it like the White Brotherhood?
A: Those of fair complexion who wear white robes.
Q: (T) We call them KKK here! (L) Similar to the Templars? Is there, for example, a name that they call themselves?
A: White Sect.
Q: And when they call themselves this, in what language did they create this moniker?
A: Aramaic.
Q: So, we need to know what it is in Aramaic. What kind of teachings did they follow?
A: Similar to the monks of orthodox Christianity.
Q: If they were similar to the monks of orthodox Christianity, then the activities of this individual in being the biological father of Jesus, would that not be considered to be breaking one's monkly vows?
A: All can be forgiven a singular indiscretion.
Q: So, this Mary knew this individual who was, for all intents and purposes, a monk in this sect and they were manipulated from higher densities to interact together and conceive a child... was he also hypnotized level 1 as you said about her?
A: Close enough.
Q: He was a monk and he had taken vows, this event occurred and this child was conceived, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: Was she also a member of some sort of similar order?
A: No.
Q: Was she in any way a sort of Temple virgin or did she had spent her whole life preparing to be the vessel for this child as has been suggested by other sources?
A: No.
Q: Is it true that the Essene community that was attempting to prepare a vessel for the coming of the messiah, that this was their whole plan, their work?
A: No.
Q: This White Sect existed... where was this monastery or group located?
A: Near today's Haifa.
Q: Where, in fact, was Jesus actually born, since I have discovered that Nazareth didn't even exist at that time?
A: [Many spirals] Nazareth. The name was acquired AFTER, but the area is the same.
Q: You have said that he did not travel and receive special teachings, yet that he knew that he was special from the beginning, and that the information was channeled to him. How do I want to phrase this? At what age did he receive this enlightenment?
A: Was progressive.
Q: So, it went on over a period of time. Did he ever know who his biological father was, that his father was a member of this White Sect... did he know that?
A: Vaguely.
Q: (L) During a previous session we asked several questions about Jesus of Nazareth known as the Christ. The question was asked: "Was Jesus special, that is, Christed, in some way?" The answer you gave was: "Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement. Zindar council." I would like to know the meaning of these references.
A: Quick exalted refers to a sudden boost of awareness level as related to your previous questions about knowledge. Sometimes that acquisition can occur in a surge and sometimes this is referred to as illumination. Jesus acquired his knowledge by having complete faith in his ability to acquire the knowledge from a higher source. This faith caused an equal balancing interaction with higher sources, which allowed him to gain supreme knowledge simply by having that faith. Remember that the resources for the acquisition of knowledge in the space/time era of Jesus were much more limited than they are now. There were few options open for acquiring true knowledge except total and complete faith. And this one was instilled with the awareness that total and complete faith would cause dramatic and spectacular acquisition of knowledge; also would cause dramatic and spectacular progression of the soul being. Therefore, the faith was felt, the knowledge was received.
Q: (L) What was the source of the knowledge?
A: The source was the sixth level of density unified thought forms in the realm of knowledge.
Q: (L) What does it mean to "end the Civil entrancement" mean?
A: That is to bring about a complete balancing of one's useful energies to a level where there is no experiencing of over balancing on the positive or negative side which is preferable for meditation in a mass form.
Q: (L) What is the Zendar Council?
A: Zendar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.
Q: (L) I would like you to expound a bit on the life of Christ in terms of chronology of events. Could you tell us about his understanding about himself, his interaction with higher sources, his state of being "Christed," and what was the true work he came her to do and how did he accomplish it?
A: His awareness of who and what he was gradually came as he grew. He was taught by 6th density through his faith as described previously. And you should have faith as well because you would find things would come to you as "knowings" more often than even now. Jesus' awareness of his mission and his actions pertaining to it were part of the natural progression of his growth and development. The information about his "miracles" has been largely corrupted by writings which have been passed down after the actual event period. Most of these writings are by entities who wish to confuse and corrupt all humanity for previously stated purposes. The idea was that if one perceived Jesus as performing physical miracles, then your entire understanding of what the life experience here on earth and on this plane is, and the meaning for it all, is also corrupted and the knowledge is blocked which is the goal of those who have done this. Jesus' purpose and plan was to teach knowledge to all who sought but did not have the strength to express as great a level of faith as he had to acquire the knowledge as he did from higher sources. If they were open and willing to learn they could be taught by hearing. He had only very limited success in imparting faith to others because faith comes solely from within and that is one of the most difficult things for beings on your plane to acquire.
Q: (L) Now, it has been discussed before that Jesus was probably the product of a genetically selected impregnation, could you comment on this and why this would be.
A: Well, that is always the case in every single birth that occurs in your level of density.
Q: (L) Could you comment on the idea that is implicit in this that Jesus was illegitimate?
A: Obviously if one feels that this would put a shadow or stain on him in some way, or the knowledge that he imparted, then you have not been paying attention. Did you not hear what was said about obsession as opposed to knowledge? Those who are truly, within themselves, at all points of development, trying to seek greater knowledge, will not be blocked by any ideas relating to illegitimacy as you refer to it. Those who are obsessed, by choice, rather than trying to seek true knowledge, will indeed be blocked at that point. It is all up to the choice of the individual. If you choose to develop and gain knowledge then you are never blocked or obsessed at any point about anything ever. However if you choose to limit your knowledge or become obsessed then you are constantly finding yourself blocked and this will manifest in all your life experiences. That is part of the individual soul development pattern. It is all based on choice. Therefore it is not possible for you to interfere with another's choice to acquire knowledge or not and how it is or is not done. There is no need to try to alter another's perceptions because that would be to interfere with free will. If one chooses to be obsessed rather than to be illumined, that is their choice!
Q: (L) On a couple of occasions it has been mentioned that Yasser Arafat was a fifth density soul and that he was a descendant of Jesus of Nazareth. What is there about him that demonstrates these qualities or these genetics?
A: Have you not seen? Imagine what it would be like to be Yasser Arafat. Look at your perception. What is he doing now?
Q: (L) Well the pro-Jewish point of view is not favorable to him.
A: Well, what you describe as pro anything is an obsession. And, as we know, obsession blocks knowledge which in turn blocks the ability to protect oneself against negative occurrences. Not a good idea. If you were following circumstances, Yasser Arafat is now trying to take the world upon his shoulders by making peace with the Israelis who have been enemies for a very long time. And, therefore, he is now a peace-maker and knowledge dispenser.
Q: (L) In that particular conflict between the Jews and the Arabs, which side has the greater validity?
A: All sides have equal validity. It is only with individuals we find negativity or positivity.
Q: (L) Do demons and evil spirits fear anything?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Do they fear any power that we, as humans, possess?
A: Yes. Knowledge.
Q: (L) Do they fear religious symbols, signs or figures?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is there any name or sign or symbol that can halt their activity?
A: Sometimes.
Q: (L) Were they afraid of Christ?
A: Yes. Because of his knowledge. The mass of his knowledge raised his vibrations. Knowledge is truly power.
Q: (L) According to shamanistic teachings, one can have animal spirits or guides. Is this correct?
A: Partly. You have them if you believe you have them.
Q: (L) If believing in them makes it so, is this belief beneficial?
A: All belief is beneficial at some level.
Q: (L) Did Jesus of Nazareth believe in animal spirits or totems?
A: No. Shamanism is subjective and limits. Lizard inspired.
Q: (L) I would like to know, in the description of the Pentecost, it was said that the disciples gathered in a room and prayed for days and days and suddenly a wind came rushing in and flames danced over their heads and they all began speaking in tongues. I would like to know if this event or something similar occurred?
A: No.
Q: (L) In other words, the true baptism of the "Holy Spirit" was when Jesus breathed on his disciples and transmitted something like the Reiki initiation?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What did Jesus look like? How tall was he?
A: 5'9"
Q: (L) What color eyes did he have?
A: Blue.
Q: (L) What color hair did he have?
A: Strawberry blond.
Q: (L) What was his skin tone?
A: Fair.
Q: (L) What was his weight?
A: 160.
Q: (L) Was he muscular?
A: Average.
Q: (L) Okay what was his occupation?
A: Carpenter.
Q: (L) Did John the Baptist really lose his head?
A: No.
Q: (RC) Is the word "Jesus" derivative of Isis or Zeus?
A: Neither, Jesus is moniker only.
Q: (RC) What is moniker? What do you mean? Don't you have to pray in the name of Jesus for protection?
A: Prayers are not necessary for protection once channel, or more appropriately, conduit is properly grooved!
Q: (S) What about the prayers that are directed to Jesus?
A: Jesus is one of us in "special service" sector.
Q: (L) Like a "green beret?"
A: No, more like a "beige beret."
Q: (L) What is a 'beige beret?'
A: Just our term.
Q: (PZ) Well, I have just always wondered if this praying business is a bunch of malarkey. If I pray a rosary, I am praying to the Virgin Mary. Who is she? Where is she?
A: "She" is here too.
Q: (PZ) Does that prayer go directly to her and does she then send you out to do whatever?
A: She is not really a she. And when you write to "Ann Landers," does she really see it?
Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever wrapped around Jesus.
A: No.
Q: (L) How was it made?
A: Wrapped around Roman worker.
Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?
A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.
Q: (L) Okay, forget that. Now, I am reading this book called "The Jesus Conspiracy" about the Shroud of Turin. Now, we once asked about this and you said that the image was of a Roman worker. According to the authors, this individual was crucified, and they infer from that, and the existence of the image itself, that is HAS to be Jesus, even if the carbon dating tests don't support this idea. Was this individual who was crucified, done so in the specific manner as was described for Jesus, with deliberate intent to create the illusion that the image on the Shroud HAD to be of Jesus, since Jesus was the only person who could have possibly suffered all these exact wounds as described in the Gospels?
A: No. Crucifixion was once a "popular" punishment method.
Q: (L) Can you tell us approximately what year this Roman worker was crucified who left his image on this shroud?
A: 399 A.D.
Q: (L) Okay, it has been tested and said that this individual had type AB blood, which has then led a lot of people to say that Jesus's blood type was AB...
A: But it is not.
Q: (L) Well, the science of histology has shown that type AB did not even EXIST at the time of Jesus... Let me insert another question here. Is part of the 4th density transitional adjustment also an opening of a doorway for Jesus, who is in the state of suspended animation as you have previously described, to re-emerge into the world?
A: Or re-emerge into the consciousness.
Q: (L) Of who or what?
A: All 4th density inductees.
Q: (L) Well, you have said that he is actually in a flesh body in this 'time warp' in a state of suspended animation, so to speak, or a place of no time...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is something going to happen where this singular individual, Jesus, is going to...
A: No need for that.
Q: (L) So, at the point of this 4th density transitional adjustment, what will Jesus, in his state of suspended animation be doing? Will he continue in that state forever, or will he make some shift of his own?
A: The shift is yours. Afterwards, you can see that which you cannot yet see.
Q: (L) No, about this Acharya information that states that Jesus was a mythical character.
A: No, Jesus was not mythical.
Q: (T) What about this information?
A: Babble. Nonsense. It is disinformation.
Q: One of the ancient apocryphal texts recounts the story that Joseph, husband of Mary, the mother of Jesus, described the night that Jesus was born and in that account, he described an event that could only be called "frozen time." In other words, he said that time stopped. He described people sitting at dinner with their food half-way to their mouths, arms frozen, jaws frozen in the act of chewing, and the same effect with cattle and so forth. He was on his way to get a midwife when this occurred. Did, in fact, time stop at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: Time "stops" for many at many times according to their individual sensitivity levels.
Q: Now, as you know, I have been digging through piles of books on the Grail, or the "Holy Bloodline." Who was Joseph of Arimathea?
A: A disciple of the unibound.
Q: What's a 'unibound?'
A: Singular thought. Transcendant discipline.
Q: And what does one do if one is a participant?
A: Up to 96 hours of clear channel meditation.
Q: Okay, like what you have described Jesus doing prior to his "ascension." So Joseph was a disciple of this... is this an individual or a concept?
A: Each.
Q: What was Joseph's role, if any, in relation to the 'Holy Grail?'
A: None.
Q: Who created the legends of the Holy Grail and Joseph of Arimathea bringing it to a) France, or b) England? Who was behind the creating of this group of legends?
A: Not a group of legends.
Q: Why was the 12th century the focal point for the propagation of the grail legends, the troubadours, the whole thing?
A: Beginning of "Renaissance."
Q: The story is, and there are even some very old legends in France itself, that there are caves or places where Joseph and Mary Magdalene spent the night, or lived, or whatever. Did Joseph of Arimathea actually travel to France and then to England later, with Mary Magdalene or other followers of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: Did he travel to France alone?
A: No.
Q: What is the source of these stories? What is the point of these stories?
A: Deflection.
Q: Deflection of what to what or from what?
A: Truth from recipient.
Q: Okay. Did somebody travel to France carrying some sort of object, or a person who WAS this 'object,' so to speak, as the 'holy bloodline,' or whatever?
A: Maybe it was carried by those most capable.
Q: And who would be those most capable?
A: Check the geographic link. Where are the Pyrenees?
Q: On the border between France and Spain.
A: Who lives there?
Q: The Basques, among others. Is that who we are getting at? Or the Alchemists? These mysterious "Hidden Masters"....
A: Close.
Q: So, what does that have to do with this bloodline and Holy Grail business, and Joseph of Arimathea and Mary Magdalene... I mean, did Mary Magdalene exist as a person?
A: Yes.
Q: Was she the wife of Jesus?
A: No.
Q: Did Jesus have a wife?
A: Yes.
Q: Who was his wife?
A: Anatylenia. [Note: this "name" is actually a title of the Triple Goddess in her Virgin aspect.]
Q: Who was this person? What was her background, her nationality?
A: Nazarene.
Q: Does that mean that she was from the east?
A: Possibly, if viewed that way.
Q: Did they have any children?
A: Yes.
Q: How many?
A: Three.
Q: What was Jesus/Jesinavarah's family name?
A: Marnohk.
Q: What did his wife do when he ascended into the stat of hyperconsciousness which you have previously described?
A: Awaited her turn to transition.
Q: Did she continue to live in the same general area, or did she move to Europe.
A: Same.
Q: So, all these stories being made up about all these people and dramatic scenarios...
A: It is not the people but the message, the artifacts hold the key.
Q: I noted in re-reading the transcripts on the subject that you had said Jesus lived 'near' Palestine and that the Bible was not entirely accurate. Where, precisely, did this person who came to be known as Jesus live?
A: Aramaia.
Q: Where is that?
A: In what is now Lebanon.
Q: His name was Jesinavarah, as you said before. During his lifetime, did he have a large following?
A: Towards the end, and after.
Q: You said that he was not crucified, that he was taken up into a ship on a beam of light - at that time, according to our measurement, how many years did he spend on the earth plane before he was taken up in this beam of light?
A: 43.
Q: Okay, when he was taken up in this beam of light, where did this event occur?
A: The Sea of Galilee.
Q: On the shore?
A: Yes.
Q: You said he had children by three Roman women and he also had a wife?
A: Close enough.
Q: Did he have brothers and sisters?
A: No.
Q: Is any part of the nativity story true?
A: Slight.
Q: I have been wondering about this "long haired/nazarite" business. It seems to have been thought that cutting off the hair caused them to lose their strength in some way. Was this totally symbolic, or was it actually believed that they had to grow their hair?
A: Symbolic.
Q: What was the hair symbolic of?
A: Virility.
Q: Okay, virility. What was the symbology where women were concerned such as in the story of Mary Magdalene washing Jesus' feet and drying it with her hair?
A: Acts like a brush.
Q: What was the symbology of using a brush on the feet?
A: Cleansing.
Q: Why would the feet require cleansing in the symbolic stories? Why was this a symbolic act?
A: One's standing emanates from the ground upon which one stands.
Q: How does one's standing emanate from the ground upon which one stands and how does this relate to one's feet being dried with hair?
A: Energy arises from within planet. You would not want to corrupt that with filth on the soles, would you?
Q: How does anything on the soles of the feet corrupt energy? People have dirty feet all the time! Gosh, they must be completely corrupted. Unless this was a particular ritual activity in which it was extremely important to have clean feet.
A: Would dirt on your eyes corrupt your sight?
Q: Of course! But nobody ever thinks about dirt on the body as being something that corrupts your energy.
A: Nobody?
Q: Alright, in general. So, this was a purification of energy process...
A: Symbolic of same in depiction.
Q: What was the purpose for which this ritual act was being performed. She was washing his feet before the crucifixion in the story, or some sort of symbolic cleansing was taking place, am I correct?
A: Close.
Q: This event that is described in the New Testament as the crucifixion was obviously a symbol for something else. You have told us that this was a symbolic story...
A: More like propaganda.
Q: So, the crucifixion was not symbolic of some other hidden meaning, or event?
A: See "Gods of Eden."
Q: You also said that Jesus was going to return, that he would emerge from this other density experience and come as a teacher. Is this because he is the number one teacher doing this work at the time?
A: More because the messenger most capable of delivering the message, because of expectations.
Q: And what message is he going to deliver?
A: Wait and see.
Q: You mean that we, the three of us sitting here, will see him and hear this message at some point in this reality?
A: Maybe.
Q: Would we have instant recognition?
A: Wait and see.
At this point, I was really buried in genealogy research, "grail" matters, and "bloodlines."
Q: Am I going to discover some more startling things with this "bloodline" research?
A: Discovery is the fruit of inquiry.
Q: Am I correct in my assessment that the origin of the Grail stories was the story of the Head of Bran?
A: But what was the "origin" of Brahna?
Q: Well, from the way I am interpreting what I have found, I have two possibilities: One is the Celts from Kantek, and two: a Nephilim hybrid.
A: Could be one and the same.
Q: Well, from what you have said in prior sessions, these bloodlines can be of positive or negative orientation, a duality, and that they lead to super-secret power sources. Is that correct?
A: Well, the duality is existent concommitantly through all bloodlines, but in the so-called celts, it is more pronounced, therefore, there are more vivid power cells and centers.
Q: Are these cells and centers that you talk about, are they something that is located in the body or a part of the spirit-body connection...
A: The extant body.
Q: What do you mean by "extant" body?
A: Existent/external.
Q: Okay, I will keep digging. How can I find if there is going to be a connection between the Aryan/Jewish bloodline of Jesus and the Merovingian/Plantagenet bloodline? Does it exist?
A: Only to the extent of the shared origins of the essenes and the celts.
Q: So, I will discover these as I go along, I guess. One dot leads to the next dot. The only way to learn is to do it. (A) The original questions was whether we should follow this bloodline research... to what purpose?
A: Bloodlines reveal destiny. Why do you think they have been covered up so thoroughly?
Q: Where did these bloodlines originate?
A: Orion region.
Q: For how long were they maintained with any semblance of purity?
A: Indefinite.
Q: Are you saying that they are still maintaining them and manipulating them from other densities?
A: That is for you to discover.
Q: Are these bloodlines carrying a specific codon that is designed to activate at a certain period of time or in response to a certain frequency?
A: Possibly, but why should not that apply to everyone?
Q: Okay, so we have got ticking time bombs in our DNA, all of us!
A: Maybe.
Q: Alright, bizarro... (A) It is not necessarily time bombs, these are bombs which could be ignited by something else, like knowledge. (L) Is that the case, that knowledge could unlock these codons?
A: Yes.
Q: Certain activities such as meditating?
A: Yes. Or... channeling.
Q: Okay, let me ask this, these guys who have researched this Holy Bloodline business have sort of focused all the attention on a particular line, purportedly the line of Jesus going into the Merovingian kings... This guy, Pierre Plantard, seems to have more or less created a geneology with their own validations... sort of like describing x in terms of y and y in terms of x. Now, is this Pierre Plantard a genuine carrier of the bloodline that we are concerned with?
A: Partially.
Q: Then, that makes me think that the significant thing that we are looking for is a convergence of the blood lines... These lines are symbolized by the god figures, the children of Odin, and what we are looking for is a place where these lines converge?
A: Yes.
Q: How many persons on the planet contain these 'convergant' bloodlines?
A: 7367.
Q: (L) In doing this bloodline tracking, I came across this fellow who was the Gallo-Roman Senator named Tonantius Ferreolus. Is this individual descended from Jesus/ Jesinavarah?
A: This is certainly a possibility.
Q: (L) You said that Jesinavarah had three children with three Roman women. I never asked if they were male or female children. Were they male or female?
A: Vella? What would you suppose?
Q: (L) The names Vella, Rafae and Alicia were given as the names of the three women who were the mothers. Was I mistaken and did I garble it when it was really the names of the children?
A: Sometimes, one follows another. You have the clues, and your quest has been admirable so far, why stop now?
Q: (L) So, I will find them! Okay.
A: Could be like the Holy Grail.
Q: I want to clarify the issue of Jesus' wives. The first time we asked, you said that Jesus was not married, but had three children with three Roman women. The second time we asked, you said he had a wife, Anatylenia, and had three children with this one woman. My question is: did he have six children, three with one woman, and one each with three other women?
A: No.
Q: He had a wife and not the three Roman women?
A: No. Three women, all were wives, in the "Biblical sense."
Q: Now, Anatylenia was one of these Roman women?
A: Yes.
Q: Who were here parents? What was her patronym?
A: Serm. Alain and Galleinia.
Q: There were three children, one from each woman?
A: Yes.
Q: Male and female children?
A: Yes. Two boys and one girl.
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant in any sense similar to the covenants of the Bible?
A: It is a mystical thing, not related to theology in a direct sense.
Q: How long has the Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: 5129 years.
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or between humans and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.
Q: Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar format as it did at its inception?
A: Yes.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the Quorum?
A: No.
Q: Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in opposition, or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.
Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Q: Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.
Q: What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!
Q: Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the same ones involved with the genetic engineering of new bodies for the Lizzies to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
A: No.
Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.
Q: You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it could be positive or negative. So, if that is the negative side of it, is the positive the same, or different?
A: Too complex for your current understanding.
Q: Is the 'buried treasure' of the Templars or Cathars, or whoever, manuscripts from the Alexandrian library telling about the true origin and nature of man?
A: Well if so, maybe that would explain the structure you live under.
Q: Society? The Universe? The EM grid? Any or all of the above? What structure do I live under?
A: Forced choices.
Q: Alright, I found this article on the net called 'Hidden History of Jesus and the Holy Grail' written by Sir Laurence Gardner, KT etc., author of 'Bloodline of the Holy Grail,' transcribed from a lecture given at 'The Ranch' in Yelm, Washington. What he says is that he had been appointed historian and 'sovereign genealogist' to 33 royal families... he was putting together written chronological accounts of things these families knew the substance of, but not the details. He talks about the fact that Jesus was married and that he had heirs and that this was discussed in the published papers of Mary, Queen of Scots, and in the papers of James II of England. He says: 'I began this work with separate commissions from separate families, doing work on these genealogies. What happened was they began to converge. It became very apparent, and it took a long time, because genealogies have to be done backwards, put together backwards, and constructed backwards; but what was happening was that a triangle from a large top base with numerous family lines, was pulling to a point. I suddenly realized what this point was and I said 'wow! do you realize what I have found here?' and they said 'oh, you know, the father of so and so,' and I said 'oh, no, no, what I am finding is that this comes out of the house of Judah in the first century.' And they said: 'yeah, we know all that, what we wanted you to do was blah blah blah.' So, he says that he had access to Celtic Church records dating back to 37 A.D., the very documents that the Knights Templar brought out of Europe in 1128 and confronted the Church establishment with, and frightened the life out of them because these were documents that talked about bloodlines and genealogies. Blah blah blah. Before I go on, this guy says that all these family lines go back to the house of Judah. Do they actually have written genealogies back to the house of Judah connecting the royal families of Europe to this house?
A: Somewhere, maybe.
Q: Did Jesus descend from the house of Judah?
A: Is it important really?
Q: In other words, this guy is just blowing more smoke over the issue? I think he is blowing smoke.
A: Okay. Perhaps.
Q: It seems to me that if what he was saying was true, that he certainly would not be allowed to say it. It's based on and converges with all the stories they are telling about Rennes-le-Chateau and seems to be more smokescreen.
Do yourself a favor and read Laura's book about Jesus.
Laura's Book "From Paul to Mark" is out!!!! ... And in French too
We are happy to inform you that Laura's latest book, From Paul to Mark - Paleochristianity has just been released! If you are an active participant of this forum, you probably already know what a huge amount of work it represents. Laura's incredible dedication to digging for answers to the big...
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Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
Another piece of the puzzle regarding Jesus, the following thread started in 2013 ans still running :
Was Julius Caesar the real Jesus Christ?
heinrich, if you really are after the real story behind "Jesus", I cannot but second hlat suggestion!Do yourself a favor and read Laura's book about Jesus.
Laura's Book "From Paul to Mark" is out!!!! ... And in French too
We are happy to inform you that Laura's latest book, From Paul to Mark - Paleochristianity has just been released! If you are an active participant of this forum, you probably already know what a huge amount of work it represents. Laura's incredible dedication to digging for answers to the big...
thank you. i am sure that the laura book is excellent and full of information. but i was looking for a condensed version of what we have been told by the cass, and which is distributed all over the sessions reports. i could do that from the site which gives all the cass sessions, but life is short, at least for me...Laura wrote extensively about Jesus in her latest book From Paul to Mark, and as far as I know she is researching a follow-up book on him. So plenty of work to get a clearer picture.
Wandering Star
The Living Force
Thank you for your time and effort in compiling.
A pleasure to read your post and the effort of the C's in giving information, respecting Laura's preconceived ideas on the matter.
thank you for indicating the cesar thread. i will read it.
thank you for grouping all(?) messages by the cass in a single file. this makes it reading much more efficient.
Free will and leading a horse to water.
Well, the sessions where he was discussed aren't really a condensed version of the book, the book contains a lot more information and details about the entire topic that are crucial to understand. So, I would suggest the book, life is too short not to read a book I would say. That way you'll have the knowledge behind the entire legend, and not just a bits of information.
Unfortunately with this, there's really no shortcuts.
Additionally to FPtM, is plenty information searching the transcripts here: Cassiopaean Session Transcripts Search.
And as supplemental reading to the Julius Caesar thread, there is also the July 12, 1994 session. On JC's birthday, that we just passed a few days ago.
And as supplemental reading to the Julius Caesar thread, there is also the July 12, 1994 session. On JC's birthday, that we just passed a few days ago.
here we have the "truth" from the horses mouth: the AUTOBIOGRAPHY of jesus. is it said to have been channeled...
Prayer and Faith - The Genuine Jesus, A Channeled Autobiography of Jesus Christ
Belief and faith are not the same, belief is of the mind; faith is of the soul.
www.thegenuinejesus.com