Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

This is a really weird sentiment, on one side I’m so happy with everything that is going on politically speaking, what Trump is doing is basically what we wanted to happen in the USA for a looong time, it’s like everything deep state has created in weeks is getting destroyed in many ways (except for Israel affairs, yet), it’s like symbolically “a triple bad day for Rockefeller” but at the same time no terror attacks or false flags attacks of significance, a few airplane accidents here and there, but I bet they are planing something really really big that can change everything in one day and night.

That have me worried! I mean, I’m enjoying the show, but with a nervous laugh!
 
This is a really weird sentiment, on one side I’m so happy with everything that is going on politically speaking, what Trump is doing is basically what we wanted to happen in the USA for a looong time, it’s like everything deep state has created in weeks is getting destroyed in many ways (except for Israel affairs, yet), it’s like symbolically “a triple bad day for Rockefeller” but at the same time no terror attacks or false flags attacks of significance, a few airplane accidents here and there, but I bet they are planing something really really big that can change everything in one day and night.

That have me worried! I mean, I’m enjoying the show, but with a nervous laugh!
Me too. It's hard to sit back and watch the show.
 
That was my take also. Here is a video about Los Zetas cartel, and ironicaly they were trained before going rogue by 7th Spec Operations Group at Forth Bragg that is now assigned to deal with cartels.

Douglas Valentine gets into this long running story out of his writing in the Strength of the Pack: The Personalities, Politics and Espionage Intrigues That Shaped the DEA:

Through interviews with former narcotics agents, politicians, and bureaucrats, this exposé documents previously unknown aspects of the history of federal drug law enforcement from the formation of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs and the creation of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) up until the present day. Written in an easily accessible style, the narrative examines how successive administrations expanded federal drug law enforcement operations at home and abroad; investigates how the CIA comprised the war on drugs; analyzes the Regan, Bush, and Clinton administrations’ failed attempts to alter the DEA's course; and traces the agency's evolution into its final and current stage of “narco-terrorism.”

In the this below interview (note, that the interview was in 2012 ) with Los Zeta discussed), and it might be suggested it became much worse - more outside control and consolidated inside control changing hands - human smuggling a latter big factor with cash rewards on both sides, and with longer term destructive aims a prospect and reality - chaos) were these cartels come up, with a backdrop to the ATF and alphabet agencies that helped seed gun running south and other operations, et cetera. Now it seems with arms from Ukraine blackmarked cycling into Mexico a thing. In one way, not a lot different (more modern) than the original phoenix program operations out of Vietnam - shock, terror, cells, control, DRUGS, psychological warfare on populations.

Although the film above you cited looks to it being a relative organic in-fight between cartels for control dormancy (which it is), the influences from the outside were and still are likely stupendous (many global intel agencies play/played a role).

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A thought: Europe might be in for a very rude ride now that the US is withdrawing. What must happen one way or another is that reality re-asserts itself, and this means the sweeping away of the utterly moronic Eurocrats, which eventually will be replaced by an actually competent new elite comprised of those hardened by years of opposition and thinking outside the mainstream box, à la team MAGA. It's the natural course, unless the Eurocrats manage to install full-blown dictatorial tyranny, which frankly I'm not sure they're even capable of. All they know is grift, lies and incompetence. All of that alone will entail a huge amount of chaos.

Another thing I suspect might happen is that old historical grievances start cropping up again between European nations. This had been held in check not by the EU or "European integration", as is often claimed, but by the US-led globalists imposing their world order both by raw power and narrative control. The EU was always just a junior partner in this, and if the US withdraws, so goes their power source. Once the entrenched historical narratives begin to lose their grip and people come across alternative takes on their history, questioning the post-WWII order which not too long ago seemed like an eternal feature of reality, I wouldn't be surprised to see old territorial disputes flaring up, old national dreams coming back, revenge fantasies etc. Bitter disputes might erupt between France and Germany, Germany and Poland, among various eastern European countries, and between many continental countries and Britain. Not to mention the hatred for Russia in Poland, the Baltics and other eastern countries. The historical traumata and bitter conflicts run deep, and they have been shoved under the carpet for too long, unexamined, thanks to the pax Americana. It all might not come up while there is a common enemy in the form of EU lunacy, but once it is gone?

Such a pessimistic scenario might only be held in check if the US and Russia exert their power to keep these things down. Or, ideally, people in Europe learn how to integrate new information and narratives gracefully, acknowledging their grievances and complex history, not shying away from revisionism that might not paint their respective nations as "great ancient people who have been eternally victimized and never done anything wrong", dealing with the "blood memory" of ethnic and national bloodshed and injustices without going nuts, while engaging the process of rebuilding a new order based on self-determination, good will and the "rule of normal people".

Well, just some musings. I guess we'll see!
 
Europe might be in for a very rude ride now that the US is withdrawing. What must happen one way or another is that reality re-asserts itself, and this means the sweeping away of the utterly moronic Eurocrats, which eventually will be replaced by an actually competent new elite comprised of those hardened by years of opposition and thinking outside the mainstream box, à la team MAGA. It's the natural course, unless the Eurocrats manage to install full-blown dictatorial tyranny, which frankly I'm not sure they're even capable of. All they know is grift, lies and incompetence. All of that alone will entail a huge amount of chaos.
In both Germany (election this weekend) and France (Macron for several more years) it looks like the globalist puppets can hang on to power for now. But I do wonder how much pressure Trump can and is willing to exert on them and if that can change the political landscape in Europe.

One thing that both Trump and the eurocrats agree on is "no cheap gas from Russia", which is very bad for Europe's economic future.
 
irjO said: That have me worried! I mean, I’m enjoying the show, but with a nervous laugh!
Ditto here, I suppose topsey turvey world doesn't get uprighted easily

Trump Justice: Staffer to Be Fired for Helping DOGE Is Suddenly Put in Charge of Entire Agency​


Dylan's song lyric:

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'

 
JD Vance just mauled 'esteemed gentleman historian' Niall Ferguson, who's complaining about 'giving Putin a free pass'.

Absolutely glorious to watch, the 'hillbilly' towering over the 'intellectual titan'. 🍿

Note what Vance says about "moralistic garbage" and "moralisms"... he's pretty much using those terms in the sense Lobaczewski used "paramoralisms":


His response if you can't see it on X:
...and he's at it again...


In this thread I'll respond to some of what I've seen out there. Let's start with Niall:

1) On the general background, yes, you have been more right than wrong on a lot of the details of the conflict. Which is why I'm surprised to hear you call the administration's posture "appeasement." We are negotiating to end the conflict. It is "appeasement" only if you think the Ukrainians have a credible pathway to victory. They don't, so it's not.

2) As far as I can tell, accusations of "appeasement" hinge on a few arguments (not all of them from Niall, to be clear). The first is a criticism that we're even talking to the Russians. Well, the President believes to conduct diplomacy, you actually have to speak to people. This used to be called statesmanship. Second, the idea--based often on fake media reports--that we've "given the Russians everything they want." Third, that if we just passed another aid package, Ukraine would roll all the way to Moscow, raise Navalny from the dead, and install a democratic and free leader to Russia (I exaggerate, but only a little). All of these arguments are provably, demonstrably false.

Many people who have gotten everything wrong about Russia say they know what Russia wants. Many people who know the media reports fake garbage take anonymously sourced reports on a complex negotiation as gospel truth.

But the bigger issue, as I think Niall knows, is that most of those loudly shouting "appeasement" are people who aren't dealing with the reality on the ground.

3) On the specifics of the negotiation, I'm not confirming details publicly for obvious reasons, but much of what I've seen leaked ranges from entirely bogus to missing critical info. The president has set goals for the negotiation, and I am biased, but I think he's awfully good at this. But we're not going to telegraph our negotiating posture to make people feel better. The president is trying to achieve a lasting piece, not massage the egos or anxieties of people waving Ukraine flags.

The idea that the President of the United States has to start the negotiation by saying "maybe we'll let Ukraine into NATO" defies all common sense. Again, it's not appeasement to acknowledge the realities on the ground--realities President Trump has pointed to for years in some cases.

4) Many of the subjective criticisms amount to pearl clutching that don't ultimately matter. I'm happy to defend POTUS's criticisms of the Ukrainian leadership (not that it matters, because he's the president, but I agree with him). You're welcome to disagree. But these critiques of POTUS don't bear on the war or on his negotiation to end it.
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A thought: Europe might be in for a very rude ride now that the US is withdrawing. What must happen one way or another is that reality re-asserts itself, and this means the sweeping away of the utterly moronic Eurocrats, which eventually will be replaced by an actually competent new elite comprised of those hardened by years of opposition and thinking outside the mainstream box, à la team MAGA. It's the natural course, unless the Eurocrats manage to install full-blown dictatorial tyranny, which frankly I'm not sure they're even capable of. All they know is grift, lies and incompetence. All of that alone will entail a huge amount of chaos.

Interesting, but is it either / or, is it "competent new leaders" versus "full blown dictatorship". Reality might just settle in-between the two... new faces may emerge and indeed for a while things may get better, but where there is power and money, scrupulous chameleon like people will always find their way to positions where they cause harm (but of course, they always provide justification for it but the end result is the same). Let's not forget the average person will go like a moth to a flame to whoever makes the right tunes i.e. the public is still highly susceptible to falling prey to lies, propaganda and psychological manipulation (people haven't just become immune to these all of a sudden!)

Another thing I suspect might happen is that old historical grievances start cropping up again between European nations. This had been held in check not by the EU or "European integration", as is often claimed, but by the US-led globalists imposing their world order both by raw power and narrative control. The EU was always just a junior partner in this, and if the US withdraws, so goes their power source. Once the entrenched historical narratives begin to lose their grip and people come across alternative takes on their history, questioning the post-WWII order which not too long ago seemed like an eternal feature of reality, I wouldn't be surprised to see old territorial disputes flaring up, old national dreams coming back, revenge fantasies etc. Bitter disputes might erupt between France and Germany, Germany and Poland, among various eastern European countries, and between many continental countries and Britain. Not to mention the hatred for Russia in Poland, the Baltics and other eastern countries. The historical traumata and bitter conflicts run deep, and they have been shoved under the carpet for too long, unexamined, thanks to the pax Americana. It all might not come up while there is a common enemy in the form of EU lunacy, but once it is gone?
I was thinking the same... but then, nukes. Some countries now have nukes which fundamentally changes what is possible. For example, a dispute between Germany and France or whoever and the UK can only go so far. If like Russia the fundamental existence of a nuclear capable country is threatened, then all bets are off.

So I think we need to remember nukes exist, and they do act as a deterrent to any existential shenanigans at the national level for certain countries.

Such a pessimistic scenario might only be held in check if the US and Russia exert their power to keep these things down.
Let's not forget about 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳 and that Asia has risen. 😬

Or, ideally, people in Europe learn how to integrate new information and narratives gracefully, acknowledging their grievances and complex history, not shying away from revisionism that might not paint their respective nations as "great ancient people who have been eternally victimized and never done anything wrong", dealing with the "blood memory" of ethnic and national bloodshed and injustices without going nuts, while engaging the process of rebuilding a new order based on self-determination, good will and the "rule of normal people".

Well, just some musings. I guess we'll see!
Interesting musings!
 
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In regards to J. D. Vance, I found the following info recently given by a lawyer for the main Ukrainian orthodox church quite interesting. He says that Vance was the only senator that listened to him and was serious about it:


I couldn’t quite establish at what point in time he talked to Vance. Anyone able to assess that? Anyway, that snippet could be (another) indication that Vance is the real deal.
 
In my opinion, the very idea of creating a superstate, the European Union, was impossible to implement, maintain in the long term, from the very beginning and was created in sick psychopathic minds. Almost every EU country has its own language, territory demarcated by borders, and each country has its own separate history, which it has taught its citizens for hundreds of years according to its subjective assessment. Over the centuries, European countries have fought each other constantly, conquered each other, taken over foreign territories only to give them back, murdered the nations of conquered countries, hence in the minds of Europeans there are various, unspoken grievances and claims against neighboring countries, sometimes being the aggressor, and sometimes being attacked themselves.



Although I have lived in Europe since birth, I do not know, for example, Portuguese actors, artists, I do not know Spanish fairy tales, proverbs, sayings, films, because each country has its own language, which its neighbors do not understand, and each country continues to live its own life despite the fact that the beginnings of the Union date back to 1958 with later expansions to include other countries. The control mechanism is very similar to the US, where there is a power visible to the people, i.e. the President, the Congress and an invisible power, i.e. the Deep State in general with its entire secret and widespread complex. Elected MEPs are nothing more than the same people who operate in political parties in individual countries led by systemic entities dependent on international centers. MEPs are a voting machine and do not have the power to create law, and the law is created by unelected EU Commissioners, to whom someone dictates the regulations that are to apply, i.e. appointed, but it is not known exactly by whom.



It can be seen very clearly that Germany (rather invisible and psychopathic bodies, not a nation) as a dominant country in the EU is absolutely convinced that they know best what other nations want and need, they feel highly entitled to criticize any country or leader who does not share their ideas, which, as it turns out, are intended only for large countries like Germany and France. The Slavic nations in the Union, along with their subordinate, submissive and bought leaders, are still treated by the Union's leadership as vassals who, for money, should give up their sovereignty, natural resources, forests and give everything to a superstate with unelected elites.

The old, degenerate, decadent societies of Western Europe, accustomed to prosperity for years, are not the future compared to the young societies of the Global South, which have the will to work hard, to increase the prosperity of their countries in an honest way, and not by forcing their authorities to indebt their countries in a way that makes it impossible to repay the loans and to work continuously for the benefit of the global parasites. Macron, Scholz, Pistorius and Tusk resemble boys in shorts whose toys were taken away by an adult (Trump) and who thought they would play with them their whole lives, lying to and robbing the societies of the countries they lead. The mainstream media in Poland continue to behave as if nothing had happened, reporting little about Trump's achievements in the US, they are outraged, calling him a crazy, irresponsible fool who works hand in hand with Putin and for his benefit. The narrative that sick with hatred Russians and Putin attacked poor Ukrainians overnight and we have to help Ukraine is still prevalent in the media, and Poland, according to various estimates, spent around 50-70 billion euros on Ukraine, sending weapons, fuel, electricity to Ukraine, artificially maintaining the hryvnia exchange rate, allowing around 20 million Ukrainians to flood through Poland, giving them free housing, food, paying social benefits, providing free medical care and allowing many millions of Ukrainians to continue to stay in Poland at the expense of Poles. These sick Eurocratic and pathological elites should be replaced by people like Orban, Fico, but there must be a firm voice from the US so that lapdogs like Scholz and Macron hide in their kennels. The British warmongers will not give up their weapons easily either and will harass and arrest their own citizens for the slightest criticism, they will secretly supply weapons to Ukraine like the EU, and at the same time fawn on Trump and wave his hand.

Europe fortunately does not have its own army, the US has taken care to weaken Europe economically in recent years, so we have also lost importance here, but European societies are threatened with hunger, cold, hyperinflation, economic collapse and who knows whether Musk or his ilk will not introduce a digital currency, stealing time for Trump before a complete economic collapse.
 
This is a really weird sentiment, on one side I’m so happy with everything that is going on politically speaking, what Trump is doing is basically what we wanted to happen in the USA for a looong time, it’s like everything deep state has created in weeks is getting destroyed in many ways (except for Israel affairs, yet), it’s like symbolically “a triple bad day for Rockefeller” but at the same time no terror attacks or false flags attacks of significance, a few airplane accidents here and there, but I bet they are planing something really really big that can change everything in one day and night.

That have me worried! I mean, I’m enjoying the show, but with a nervous laugh!
A thought that came to mind is that what is happening may not be against the "plan" per se, insofar as it may be a pathway for certain natural energies perhaps emanating from beyond our density to express themselves. It might be the case that what is happening is the pressure release that needed to happen as otherwise there may be consequences visiting our 4D STS rulers that they'd much rather avoid i.e. due to restricting free will beyond a certain threshold?

It might be that the game at their level is not about reimposing the "old system" i.e. woke, no genders, DEI etc, but rather finding ways to work with the current expression of energies such that in the end, they still maintain control.

It's worth remembering that I don't think they care about what political views rule the day, left / right, they don't care about migration, borders etc what they care about is control and keeping their food as food. You would think that they are operating at an energetic level and this to us is translating in a different way, perhaps with Trump winning and all the moves currently taking place.

Maybe in this regard there won't be any major "empire strikes back" type false flags, at least not in the way we are expecting and instead we'll bravely move forward into a new paradigm shift and at some point we'll wonder why things still suck despite the "right" people being in positions of power? i.e. in the sense that nothing fundamental has changed.

Ask yourself the question, have people fundamentally changed? Like... fundamentally. Have they been through the "work", through the "grind", through all that esoteric type stuff. If the answer is no, then why would we expect our society to fundamentally change. We've got people on the planet who'll graduate to 4D STS, some to 4D STO, others will smash their souls and disappear into the primordial soup, we got OPs, we got some who'll just repeat the whole cycle, we basically have all the permutations possible. It's the definition of a madhouse, not the sort of place where paradise will descend onto! Quite the opposite.

Let's wait and see 👀
 
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