Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

You laugh but people forget that Russia literally gave Israel Iranian equipment codes years ago according to Wikileaks. WikiLeaks: Russia gave Israel Iranian system's codes That might be why Iran has been a little hesitant to ask Russia for more help, particularly on aerial defense systems.

Most likely. Iran has stated that having their own indigenous independent weapons production is very important to them. The problem with getting weapons like AD etc. from other nations is, as you mentioned, the chance of them being compromised and useless to you when you really need them.

All those "export versions" of weapons sold to other countries should always be viewed with suspicion. And it's not necessarily the case that Russia would have given "codes" or other intel on Russian AD systems to Israel. Any other country that Russia has sold those same systems to could do it. So Iran, assessing the incestuous nature of ME politics and knowing how sneaky the Israelis are, correctly chose to make its own weapons, over which it has complete control.
 
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At this stage, I think it's inevitable America will get involved. I hope Trump takes the high road but we have to consider very strongly that he won't.

I'd assume that Iran thinks America will get involved. They can't be launching missiles every day towards Israel without thinking that at some point this will trigger America to get involved.

The American strategy of war is well known. They will start by bombings, lots of it. So I don't know how Iran withstand that. Surely the only way is to target US bases, and US navy assets where the bombs and jets will be launched from? 🤷

America will also likely come in with a coalition of the willing. Sadly I expect Keir Starmer to sell out volunteer the British military. 😭

Interestingly, listening to that professor last night, I didn't realise that Iran and Saudi Arabia despise each other... so Saudi may also be in the coalition and send the most troops behind the US.

Just repeating what the professor said. And yes, I know Joe won't like it one bit probably because the assesment has more holes than swiss cheese. 😭

I've been wrong before, but I doubt American shock and awe is possible, based on stuff I've been reading by military analysts like this guy:

 
Putin agreed that last.

"We once offered our Iranian friends cooperation in the field of air defense, but at the time, our partners didn't show much interest, and that was it. The strategic partnership we have with Iran doesn't contain any clauses related to the defense sector, and Iran isn't asking for any."

How depressing is that to read, thinking about what may be coming to Iran in the next week or two.
We've seen this situation play out and be covered here for many years now.
Our 4d controllers seem to have every base covered, well there is the wishful thinking angle. I'm sure we're in for a few surprises as this ramps up another notch.
 
I wonder, although I know it's not that simple, why, beyond certain elusive videos, they haven't changed that position and devised a plan to reveal their nuclear arsenal? Whether through videos and announcements or in a more subtle way, a nuclear detonation in some appropriate testing ground (if they have one) that would allow the seismographs to be activated and reveal the obvious without the need to make an announcement accompanying such an event... I think they really have confidence in themselves despite the situation for now, huh?

I'd say it's probably because if Iran had revealed it had developed nuclear weapons, many other countries might had felt compelled to put pressure on them to cancel the program and impose sanctions etc. that Iran may not have been able to withstand. So they decided that, on balance, they had to keep it secret. In doing so, the only real pressure came from the US and Israel, with other countries who secretly supported Iran and saw its nukes as a potential strategic advantage to them being able to support Iran's plausible deniability.
 
I just heard that Russia not supporting Iran is false news and Putin has said he can help with negotiations between the US and Iran which sounds good but probably not agreeable to Israel. The rhetoric surrounding all this plus the media coverage has been so intense along with the public reactions and there's a lot of false info flying around as well. At the moment I'm feeling a less destructive resolution may still be possible and Trump says that its not to late for negotiations but Israel doesn't seem to want that of course. I'm making the effort not to get caught up in this whirl wind of intensity.

This video was well done and I thought it was quite funny.
 
In doing so, the only real pressure came from the US and Israel, with other countries who secretly supported Iran and saw its nukes as a potential strategic advantage to them being able to support Iran's plausible deniability.
And since the large countries that support Iran can be expected to be reasonably well informed about the Israeli stocks, they might be entirely okay with turning a blind eye to Iran balancing out Israel.
 
I know it's not purely as simple as this, but I do wonder if the PTB are just trying to annihilate all of the good and decent people in the world. Rich cultures of hospitality and good will just have no place in their desired new reality.
If I remember correctly according to the Cs this was the reason that the overlords wished to destroy Vietnam as their culture was/is based on values like community.

An anecdote that came to mind after reading your post: A fellow traveller and I met a few Lebanese men in Nigeria years ago. They owned the camp-site where we were staying, and we got to talk them. They were very friendly and welcoming. They hardly knew us, but drove my friend to the airport when she went back home.
 
Just an observation here, probably an obvious one already made. The October 7, 2023 Israel/Palestine events exposed a sharp and often surprising division among conservative ranks. It's like an Achille's Heel of the political right's predominantly anti-war unity was identified.

The physical hostilities of the current Israel/Iran conflict seem to have magnified that division by an order of magnitude. This makes October 7 and its aftermath look like a test of the Achille's Heel, and the current events a full-blown exploitation of it. Terrible implications in the direction of chaos there. Of course, Laura predicted publicly to Jay Campbell & Hunter Williams that chaos would worsen. She also said, "We are at a crossroad. Can we come together... or are we going to be replaced and forgotten?"

17 August 2024:
A: The Wave is in the early stages and is causing chaos. Will that lead to evolution? In some rare cases, yes.

1 March 2025:
A: [...] Yes, there are agents of chaos loose upon your plane. Worry not. Awareness and mental blocking can protect.

29 March 2025
Q: [...] (Andrian) Is it true that the reason the Quorum members enact plans that create hardship and chaos for humans is in order to provoke resistance, that then helps to restore balance? (L) So is it true that they're doing it in order to provoke resistance?
A: Close enough.
Q: (Andrian) If so, do they intend that outcome?
A: No anticipation there.
 
You laugh but people forget that Russia literally gave Israel Iranian equipment codes years ago according to Wikileaks. WikiLeaks: Russia gave Israel Iranian system's codes That might be why Iran has been a little hesitant to ask Russia for more help, particularly on aerial defense systems. There were reports of something similar happening in Syria as well.
Wikipedia literally states the following: Тор (зенитный ракетный комплекс) — Википедия
Non-combat operators Tor (anti-aircraft missile system):
USA - at least one machine was demonstrated to journalists during the Red Flag exercises in Alaska, at Eielson Air Force Base, on April 21, 2011.

This means that Russia gave Israel (if this is true) in fact "dead donkey's ears", since the Americans (Israel's allies) had and had already studied this obsolete air defense system.
The same Wiki indicates that China has about 250 copies (this is even more than Russia has) of the Tor system at its disposal. China also produces and sells Chinese copies of the TOR to other countries.

In addition, almost 15 years have passed since those old events. The world has changed dramatically. The US is currently a direct enemy of Russia and is waging a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine. Israel also supplies weapons to Kyiv. Moreover, Israel is clearly involved in the recent story of the attack on Russia's strategic nuclear bombers (we recently saw a literally similar attack in tactics in Iran).
At the current moment, it is hard to imagine that Russia will sell or transfer its military developments to any of its enemies.
 
I just heard that Russia not supporting Iran is false news and Putin has said he can help with negotiations between the US and Iran which sounds good but probably not agreeable to Israel.

That part is actually quite simple and there shouldn’t be much misunderstanding: Putin/Russia is doing what it has done for decades now, explaining pretty obvious facts about the lies and nefarious and often bloody and very destructive doings of the west and the empire of lies in particular.

Basically the only help they can and will provide to other countries is proportionate to what is in Russias interest and what not AND if another country is really ASKING for help or not, based on clear principles and not just words but verifiable and signed agreements. And if there are no significant agreements (in this case, military ones) Russia won’t interfere. All they can and will do in this case is to tell obvious truths in the hopes that those with eyes to see and ears to hear can see it. And even if there would be significant agreements of that sort, Putins primary and number 1 priority will always be Russias interest, which can mean that even if such agreements exist Russia will first try to clearly assess how much they can really do. One thing is for certain though, Russians have it in them (and have a long history of) standing up and defending other peoples IF they have bilaterally agreements to do so. They have been and continue to be pretty consistent in that regard: If you have given your word of help and friendship, they will go to great lengths to honor it, even if it means they could put themselves in great danger. Honer and keeping your promises seems to be a big thing for them, and rightly so.

Given that and the more recent history under Putin, I think any sane leadership should see that as a potential great PLUS for their respective countries.
 
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Otra posibilidad es que los iraníes entendieran que es casi un hecho que Estados Unidos los atacará a continuación, por lo tanto necesitan guardar sus municiones para la ocasión.

Simplicius has published an article in which this is his conclusion: Iran remains calm despite everything, and perhaps that's why it insists on maintaining nuclear silence; it doesn't feel cornered yet:

There is one thing to explain it, which takes us to the main point of this article. Israel clearly expected a very swift capitulation by Iran via a series of debilitating decapitation strikes which only partially succeeded. When that didn’t happen, and when Iran began raining down retaliatory blows, the Israeli-led bloc panicked and began to exert tremendous pressure on Trump to save the ‘chosen’ kingdom.

Part of it has to do with Israel not being equipped for long, drawn-out attritional warfare:

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Israel needed a quick operation to disable Iran, and was likely counting on the US to enter the war. But this should be tempered with the fact that Israel does claim they have prepared for the potential of a long-running conflict, but presumably only under the total aegis of the US and the West completely backstopping them in every facet, particularly weapons, fuel, etc.

So what did Iran do? Iran, it appears, has chosen a similar strategy to Russia—which is to deliberately slow the conflict down and stretch Israel’s resources. Israel expected Iran to “splurge” and launch its entire complement of missiles not only to immediately exhaust itself, but also to invite a huge ‘tragedy’ that can be used to incite the US’ entry into the war. Instead, Iran chose to bleed Israel dry slowly with the ‘death by a thousand cuts’ strategy developed by Russia against the Atlanticist empire in Ukraine.

Thus, Iran is now sending small volleys of missiles daily to grind down Israel’s social, economic, and political resources.
Why has Iran chosen this strategy? Because it’s the only one with a chance of success, as giving Israel a massive “shock and awe” campaign would merely play into its hands and give the Israelis exactly what they were looking for. One report indicated that Israel had prepared for 5,000+ Israeli casualties from the Iranian strikes and clearly did not expect Iran to instead choose a slow-broil method:

You'll excuse me, Simplicius, but I'm thinking of leaving your complete analysis here for my comrades since it's a paid one and many won't be able to read it. Is that possible @Windmill knight ?

I'd say it's probably because if Iran had revealed it had developed nuclear weapons, many other countries might had felt compelled to put pressure on them to cancel the program and impose sanctions etc. that Iran may not have been able to withstand. So they decided that, on balance, they had to keep it secret. In doing so, the only real pressure came from the US and Israel, with other countries who secretly supported Iran and saw its nukes as a potential strategic advantage to them being able to support Iran's plausible deniability.
Or certainly, but I wanted to emphasize that although it may have been a mistake, making a revelation at this time, in a certain way it is still possible, although they will surely be showered with sanctions, now they are in a much better position and enjoyed a good time without economic limitations so it would be feasible to make the revelation now and ensure a possible de-escalation, but even so they have not done it yet because they think that perhaps they still have options to negotiate or they trust that they could generate certain defeats that put an end to the conflict and make them able to continue being relatively prosperous without the sanctions... a dangerous game, but one that they are surely not afraid to play as it seems.

You'll love his other explanation / cope / wishful thinking - Israel wants US and Iran to both destroy each other because that then leaves Israel as the one true king of the ME.
It may be pure copium, but he is not mistaken in saying that this is the copium of the Zionists.

Regarding Trump, hmm, I don't think he's sick or anything like that. He's simply overwhelmed by the situation and is therefore boasting and shouting more than usual, which makes him look very bad and seem delusional. The fact that neither side wants to give in, and due to his lack of a broader vision of the matter and belief in his own and the US's power, only makes him raise his voice even more as the pressure increases without anything changing. He must really instinctively fear that all this will ruin him in every way (not just his ego and credibility, but that it could lead to something truly terrible for the world and his country). That's why he complained the other day that he was having a bad time and we should be more grateful to him.

As Simplicius suggested, I think a good way out, at least for the moment, would be to negotiate with Iran, without Israel knowing about a fake attack on the nuclear facilities to save face. Of course, this wouldn't work, no matter how much or how little, because I doubt Israel wouldn't find out. They can't allow it. Even if they say yes, they'll find a way to continue once again. That's Trump's problem: Israel—the deep state—who, despite appearances and flattery, hates him and can't stop because it's now or never. They feel the pressure that this window is their last chance, or afterward, it will be almost impossible for them to achieve their Zionist ambitions: control of the Middle East through the disintegration of Iran, the elimination of Semitic genes, and taking over portals. All of these failures would give way to a multipolar world from which there's no escape. Trump may hate certain individuals in Israel and understand their game to a certain extent, but he must largely ignore what a psychopath disguised with a mask of sanity is. Israel behaves terribly at the state level, but the people themselves must be preserved at all costs. Many of us here know the extent of the religious programming we had to get rid of. It's obvious that Trump has now embraced it even more strongly.

He may be fantasizing that Iran really has a higher degree of evil and that he has to eliminate that threat to God's people. But even so, of course, I believe that his vision of Iran should not be completely dehumanizing. As if all of the above were not enough, Israel is a part of the USA; it simply cannot be dispensed with in terms of power, which is partly what Trump seeks for his country... that's why Israel is part of the United States first. Trump believes he can solve everything with his negotiating skills, although it is his advantage, it is also his biggest problem in the long term since he is flexible enough with the types who handle nefarious agendas of which he does not glimpse their true scope, so they are not destroyed and only look for another way to manifest, as they are increasingly desperate to complete these agendas, they place Trump in increasingly impossible positions, it is very much appreciated that Donald delays them, yes, that is already a lot because making them go slower takes away power in front of other poles in the world, the only drawback is that this request for power, as we said, makes them resort to more desperate measures (well, partly because it exposes them), I see it likely that if Trump does not give in, they will try to carry out cyberattacks and shameful attacks that force him to act, he may survive for a while longer if they try to assassinate him too, but as long as he does not accept that the United States cannot continue to be the sole leader of the world and that this country must undergo a series of changes that disintegrate the deep state and make it coexist with the other poles, it will not free the United States from its fateful destiny, in fact it will only make psychopaths try to make our lives more miserable given their loss of power and make the northern country more unviable for life.

I do not judge him for what he decides to do because he is being deceived and subtly directed in this situation which is a huge swamp that only changes shape and adapts to what Trump does, I still believe that he can fight a little more and not give up, his ego ironically would help him ... but at a certain point he could be cornered and decide to break his promises in pursuit of a greater subjective good that he perceives .... it is not that it is the end for the rest of the world either, but on the contrary it will probably promote more balance for the rest while the USA and its people have to deal with psychopathy and its entropy.
 
According to this german article (based on what the Wall Street Journal has said) Trump has already agreed with an attack plan from the US against Iran but has not yet given the green light to start it. So it seems now that the only thing left standing in the way of an attack on Iran (which Trump will probably be unable to keep small and short) is Trumps decision on giving it the green light or not.
 
Did Israel have a military base underneath the hospital?

Iranian News Agency: "The facility that was attacked houses thousands of soldiers, digital command systems, and cyber warfare operations. It contained a large number of soldiers and officers."

Netanyahu: "This morning, Iran's terrorist tyrants launched rockets at Soroka Hospital and at civilians in central Israel, and we will demand the full price from the tyrants in Tehran."

Israeli Sports Minister Miki Zohar: "Only the most despicable people on Earth bomb hospitals over the heads of civilians sleeping in beds."

On May 2025.
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National Security Minister of Israel Ben Gvir: "We will not allow Al-Jazeera to broadcast from Israel, as it poses a threat to our security. I ask that anyone who watches Al-Jazeera be reported to the police."

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Yoav Groweiss has extensive clinical experience in mental health clinics, hospitalization wards, and as a reserve duty psychologist in the Israeli Defense Forces. Groweiss has been identified in posts on X as an Israeli activist or critic, commenting on societal and political issues.
 
But.... why was the assassination not just called off? Or at least have it be a fully failed attempt?

Instead he was nicked on the ear, providing for the opportunity for him to 'rise like a lion' as we all saw with the "fight! fight! fight!" thing.

The result was that they weren't just denied the chance to kill him, but they got the extreme opposite: Trump not only still alive, but waaaay more popular than ever and now with a much stronger mandate than before! Talk about getting the extreme opposite of what you wanted!

But....there may be a twist in the tail. After that failed assassination, Trump appears to have had something of a conversion. He openly talked about someone protecting him that day, and there were a LOT of references to "god" saving him for some special purpose. This was echoed most recently by US Ambass. to Israel Huckabee.

In addition, it seems that for a decent number of true blue Conservative Americans, the failed assassination attempt on Trump turned him into the US version of Kim Jong Il. A "dear leader". Something which Trump has, I think, always aspired to be, at least for the adulation.
 

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